Why are U.S. cities the epicenter of gun violence?

You make up a lot. The fact is our jails are the fullest in the world.


And you are a troll... again, if they let violent gun offenders out of jail as soon as they lock them up.... it doesn't matter how full our jail are on a temporary basis......you moron.
Jails are full of violent criminals.

Why did you ignore my posts on the percentages of the population that commit mass murders?
The worst have been very white. I bet white win if number of victims taken into account.

Lame dodge.
Fact is more blacks commit mass murder than whites.
Thats not what your own link said. It specifically pointed out whites committed the vast majority of mass murders.
 
You make up a lot. The fact is our jails are the fullest in the world.


And you are a troll... again, if they let violent gun offenders out of jail as soon as they lock them up.... it doesn't matter how full our jail are on a temporary basis......you moron.
Jails are full of violent criminals.

Why did you ignore my posts on the percentages of the population that commit mass murders?
The worst have been very white. I bet white win if number of victims taken into account.

Lame dodge.
Fact is more blacks commit mass murder than whites.
Number of victims important.
 
Because when we humanoids are packed in close spaces we tend to piss each other off.

I tend to agree with that...along with the anonymity a city inherently provides...but doesn't that make cities the problem and not guns?


You're probably right, so let's get everyone from the cities to move out to rural areas...perhaps your town.

That'll fix the problem...right?
LOL
Gang members from NYC and Boston come up here to peddle their wares, but we recently had a group of them get out of line. They decided to be cool and start shooting at someone in a public parking lot. Nuh uh. Not up here. No one was hurt, but they were all charged with attempted murder and one of them at least has already been scooted off to prison. He was quite sure he was going to get probation. Maybe in the Bronx he would have. Not in Downeast Maine, chummy.
good for you...BTW - I'm taking vacation next week in South East Maine...looking forward to it.....
 
Well, it has been interesting. If y'all figure out why cities seem to bring out the worst in us, let me know.
I grew up in a inner city. I know exactly why. See my post.
Well, it has been interesting. If y'all figure out why cities seem to bring out the worst in us, let me know.
I grew up in a inner city. I know exactly why. See my post.
Crooked cops, drugs, crowded conditions, lack of opportunity.
This one?
- crowded conditions
- gangs
- racial profiling
are things we don't deal with here.
 
Because when we humanoids are packed in close spaces we tend to piss each other off.

I tend to agree with that...along with the anonymity a city inherently provides...but doesn't that make cities the problem and not guns?


You're probably right, so let's get everyone from the cities to move out to rural areas...perhaps your town.

That'll fix the problem...right?
LOL
Gang members from NYC and Boston come up here to peddle their wares, but we recently had a group of them get out of line. They decided to be cool and start shooting at someone in a public parking lot. Nuh uh. Not up here. No one was hurt, but they were all charged with attempted murder and one of them at least has already been scooted off to prison. He was quite sure he was going to get probation. Maybe in the Bronx he would have. Not in Downeast Maine, chummy.
good for you...BTW - I'm taking vacation next week in South East Maine...looking forward to it.....
Have fun! You should be fine as long as you watch where you are in Portland after dark.
 
And you are a troll... again, if they let violent gun offenders out of jail as soon as they lock them up.... it doesn't matter how full our jail are on a temporary basis......you moron.
Jails are full of violent criminals.

Why did you ignore my posts on the percentages of the population that commit mass murders?
The worst have been very white. I bet white win if number of victims taken into account.

Lame dodge.
Fact is more blacks commit mass murder than whites.
Number of victims important.

Then you shouldnt have a problem doing some research to prove your hypothesis.
 
I have argued this for years, that guns don't people, cities kill people...and the concept bubbled to the surface once again in an article from liberal leaning Vox...that 60% of gun homicides occur in just 50 major US cities.

According to Pew Research, 58% of rural households have legal guns (and 75% of those more than one) while urban household gun ownership is at 29% (mostly consisting of just one gun per household).

Here are your links:
A gun debate compromise: let cities and rural areas pass different laws ,
Rural and urban gun owners have different experiences, views on gun policy

So, here's the two part question...if gun control is the answer...

1] Why do cities, despite a deficit of legal gun owners, represent far and away the highest threat of gun violence to their citizenry. (And, for the record, the answer it isn't poverty...both urban and rural citizens face equal poverty levels.)

2] Why are rural areas where guns are prevalent significantly safer from gun violence?

Keep in mind, this is a correlation, not a conclusion...if we are going to reduce gun violence, we must understand it's root causes. Obviously more legal guns does not equate to more gun violence, and less guns with more regulation does not equate to less gun violence...so what forces are actually at work here?


Gun violence in America is mostly caused by inner city minorities, illegals, gang bangers and druggies.

Not all the gun crime but the vast majority.

Mostly in Democrat controlled big city shitholes.

76 shot in Chicago just last weekend.

Liberals are assholes. They want to take guns away from the people that don't commit the crimes while ignoring the fact that the ones that do commit the crimes don't adhere to gun control laws.

Passing a law to ban AR-15s will prevent the White law abiding man in rural Georgia from having the weapon but will do nothing to stop the 76 shootings in Chicago.

This begs the issue of the Liberals not really caring about gun crime and having a real agenda to curtail the right to keep and bear arms because it is a threat to authoritative socialistic government control, which they love so much.

Gun crime is caused by the ease of gun availability . You can spin that it’s all gang violence . It is not . A big chunk is domestic violence . Every week th local news has a story of some freak barricaded in his house and swat has to move in .

And as far as gang shootings go. At least there’s a motive . They are not random shootings , which is what really freaks out people the most .
 
I have argued this for years, that guns don't people, cities kill people...and the concept bubbled to the surface once again in an article from liberal leaning Vox...that 60% of gun homicides occur in just 50 major US cities.

According to Pew Research, 58% of rural households have legal guns (and 75% of those more than one) while urban household gun ownership is at 29% (mostly consisting of just one gun per household).

Here are your links:
A gun debate compromise: let cities and rural areas pass different laws ,
Rural and urban gun owners have different experiences, views on gun policy

So, here's the two part question...if gun control is the answer...

1] Why do cities, despite a deficit of legal gun owners, represent far and away the highest threat of gun violence to their citizenry. (And, for the record, the answer it isn't poverty...both urban and rural citizens face equal poverty levels.)

2] Why are rural areas where guns are prevalent significantly safer from gun violence?

Keep in mind, this is a correlation, not a conclusion...if we are going to reduce gun violence, we must understand it's root causes. Obviously more legal guns does not equate to more gun violence, and less guns with more regulation does not equate to less gun violence...so what forces are actually at work here?


Gun violence in America is mostly caused by inner city minorities, illegals, gang bangers and druggies.

Not all the gun crime but the vast majority.

Mostly in Democrat controlled big city shitholes.

76 shot in Chicago just last weekend.

Liberals are assholes. They want to take guns away from the people that don't commit the crimes while ignoring the fact that the ones that do commit the crimes don't adhere to gun control laws.

Passing a law to ban AR-15s will prevent the White law abiding man in rural Georgia from having the weapon but will do nothing to stop the 76 shootings in Chicago.

This begs the issue of the Liberals not really caring about gun crime and having a real agenda to curtail the right to keep and bear arms because it is a threat to authoritative socialistic government control, which they love so much.

Gun crime is caused by the ease of gun availability . You can spin that it’s all gang violence . It is not . A big chunk is domestic violence . Every week th local news has a story of some freak barricaded in his house and swat has to move in .

And as far as gang shootings go. At least there’s a motive . They are not random shootings , which is what really freaks out people the most .

Oh bullshit Timmy.
Provide some data to back that up or STFU.
 
I have argued this for years, that guns don't people, cities kill people...and the concept bubbled to the surface once again in an article from liberal leaning Vox...that 60% of gun homicides occur in just 50 major US cities.

According to Pew Research, 58% of rural households have legal guns (and 75% of those more than one) while urban household gun ownership is at 29% (mostly consisting of just one gun per household).

Here are your links:
A gun debate compromise: let cities and rural areas pass different laws ,
Rural and urban gun owners have different experiences, views on gun policy

So, here's the two part question...if gun control is the answer...

1] Why do cities, despite a deficit of legal gun owners, represent far and away the highest threat of gun violence to their citizenry. (And, for the record, the answer it isn't poverty...both urban and rural citizens face equal poverty levels.)

2] Why are rural areas where guns are prevalent significantly safer from gun violence?

Keep in mind, this is a correlation, not a conclusion...if we are going to reduce gun violence, we must understand it's root causes. Obviously more legal guns does not equate to more gun violence, and less guns with more regulation does not equate to less gun violence...so what forces are actually at work here?


Gun violence in America is mostly caused by inner city minorities, illegals, gang bangers and druggies.

Not all the gun crime but the vast majority.

Mostly in Democrat controlled big city shitholes.

76 shot in Chicago just last weekend.

Liberals are assholes. They want to take guns away from the people that don't commit the crimes while ignoring the fact that the ones that do commit the crimes don't adhere to gun control laws.

Passing a law to ban AR-15s will prevent the White law abiding man in rural Georgia from having the weapon but will do nothing to stop the 76 shootings in Chicago.

This begs the issue of the Liberals not really caring about gun crime and having a real agenda to curtail the right to keep and bear arms because it is a threat to authoritative socialistic government control, which they love so much.

Gun crime is caused by the ease of gun availability . You can spin that it’s all gang violence . It is not . A big chunk is domestic violence . Every week th local news has a story of some freak barricaded in his house and swat has to move in .

And as far as gang shootings go. At least there’s a motive . They are not random shootings , which is what really freaks out people the most .

Oh bullshit Timmy.
Provide some data to back that up or STFU.

You first !

But hey. Any time you want to compare SIMILAR situated gun nut vs gun control states. I am in.
 
I have argued this for years, that guns don't people, cities kill people...and the concept bubbled to the surface once again in an article from liberal leaning Vox...that 60% of gun homicides occur in just 50 major US cities.

According to Pew Research, 58% of rural households have legal guns (and 75% of those more than one) while urban household gun ownership is at 29% (mostly consisting of just one gun per household).

Here are your links:
A gun debate compromise: let cities and rural areas pass different laws ,
Rural and urban gun owners have different experiences, views on gun policy

So, here's the two part question...if gun control is the answer...

1] Why do cities, despite a deficit of legal gun owners, represent far and away the highest threat of gun violence to their citizenry. (And, for the record, the answer it isn't poverty...both urban and rural citizens face equal poverty levels.)

2] Why are rural areas where guns are prevalent significantly safer from gun violence?

Keep in mind, this is a correlation, not a conclusion...if we are going to reduce gun violence, we must understand it's root causes. Obviously more legal guns does not equate to more gun violence, and less guns with more regulation does not equate to less gun violence...so what forces are actually at work here?
because of blacks.....next question
 
I have argued this for years, that guns don't people, cities kill people...and the concept bubbled to the surface once again in an article from liberal leaning Vox...that 60% of gun homicides occur in just 50 major US cities.

According to Pew Research, 58% of rural households have legal guns (and 75% of those more than one) while urban household gun ownership is at 29% (mostly consisting of just one gun per household).

Here are your links:
A gun debate compromise: let cities and rural areas pass different laws ,
Rural and urban gun owners have different experiences, views on gun policy

So, here's the two part question...if gun control is the answer...

1] Why do cities, despite a deficit of legal gun owners, represent far and away the highest threat of gun violence to their citizenry. (And, for the record, the answer it isn't poverty...both urban and rural citizens face equal poverty levels.)

2] Why are rural areas where guns are prevalent significantly safer from gun violence?

Keep in mind, this is a correlation, not a conclusion...if we are going to reduce gun violence, we must understand it's root causes. Obviously more legal guns does not equate to more gun violence, and less guns with more regulation does not equate to less gun violence...so what forces are actually at work here?


Gun violence in America is mostly caused by inner city minorities, illegals, gang bangers and druggies.

Not all the gun crime but the vast majority.

Mostly in Democrat controlled big city shitholes.

76 shot in Chicago just last weekend.

Liberals are assholes. They want to take guns away from the people that don't commit the crimes while ignoring the fact that the ones that do commit the crimes don't adhere to gun control laws.

Passing a law to ban AR-15s will prevent the White law abiding man in rural Georgia from having the weapon but will do nothing to stop the 76 shootings in Chicago.

This begs the issue of the Liberals not really caring about gun crime and having a real agenda to curtail the right to keep and bear arms because it is a threat to authoritative socialistic government control, which they love so much.

Gun crime is caused by the ease of gun availability . You can spin that it’s all gang violence . It is not . A big chunk is domestic violence . Every week th local news has a story of some freak barricaded in his house and swat has to move in .

And as far as gang shootings go. At least there’s a motive . They are not random shootings , which is what really freaks out people the most .

Oh bullshit Timmy.
Provide some data to back that up or STFU.

You first !

But hey. Any time you want to compare SIMILAR situated gun nut vs gun control states. I am in.

I already did dumbass.
 
I have argued this for years, that guns don't people, cities kill people...and the concept bubbled to the surface once again in an article from liberal leaning Vox...that 60% of gun homicides occur in just 50 major US cities.

According to Pew Research, 58% of rural households have legal guns (and 75% of those more than one) while urban household gun ownership is at 29% (mostly consisting of just one gun per household).

Here are your links:
A gun debate compromise: let cities and rural areas pass different laws ,
Rural and urban gun owners have different experiences, views on gun policy

So, here's the two part question...if gun control is the answer...

1] Why do cities, despite a deficit of legal gun owners, represent far and away the highest threat of gun violence to their citizenry. (And, for the record, the answer it isn't poverty...both urban and rural citizens face equal poverty levels.)

2] Why are rural areas where guns are prevalent significantly safer from gun violence?

Keep in mind, this is a correlation, not a conclusion...if we are going to reduce gun violence, we must understand it's root causes. Obviously more legal guns does not equate to more gun violence, and less guns with more regulation does not equate to less gun violence...so what forces are actually at work here?


Gun violence in America is mostly caused by inner city minorities, illegals, gang bangers and druggies.

Not all the gun crime but the vast majority.

Mostly in Democrat controlled big city shitholes.

76 shot in Chicago just last weekend.

Liberals are assholes. They want to take guns away from the people that don't commit the crimes while ignoring the fact that the ones that do commit the crimes don't adhere to gun control laws.

Passing a law to ban AR-15s will prevent the White law abiding man in rural Georgia from having the weapon but will do nothing to stop the 76 shootings in Chicago.

This begs the issue of the Liberals not really caring about gun crime and having a real agenda to curtail the right to keep and bear arms because it is a threat to authoritative socialistic government control, which they love so much.

Gun crime is caused by the ease of gun availability . You can spin that it’s all gang violence . It is not . A big chunk is domestic violence . Every week th local news has a story of some freak barricaded in his house and swat has to move in .

And as far as gang shootings go. At least there’s a motive . They are not random shootings , which is what really freaks out people the most .

Oh bullshit Timmy.
Provide some data to back that up or STFU.

You first !

But hey. Any time you want to compare SIMILAR situated gun nut vs gun control states. I am in.

I already did dumbass.

So, do we have a gang problem or a gun problem? Data collected by the National Gang Center, the government agency responsible for cataloging gang violence, makes clear that it’s the latter. There were 1,824 gang-related killings in 2011. This total includes deaths by means other than a gun. The Bureau of Justice Statistics finds this number to be even lower, identifying a little more than 1,000 gang-related homicides in 2008. In comparison, there were 11,101 homicides and 19,766 suicides committed with firearms in 2011.

Do We Have a Gang Problem or a Gun Problem? | HuffPost
 
Gun violence in America is mostly caused by inner city minorities, illegals, gang bangers and druggies.

Not all the gun crime but the vast majority.

Mostly in Democrat controlled big city shitholes.

76 shot in Chicago just last weekend.

Liberals are assholes. They want to take guns away from the people that don't commit the crimes while ignoring the fact that the ones that do commit the crimes don't adhere to gun control laws.

Passing a law to ban AR-15s will prevent the White law abiding man in rural Georgia from having the weapon but will do nothing to stop the 76 shootings in Chicago.

This begs the issue of the Liberals not really caring about gun crime and having a real agenda to curtail the right to keep and bear arms because it is a threat to authoritative socialistic government control, which they love so much.

Gun crime is caused by the ease of gun availability . You can spin that it’s all gang violence . It is not . A big chunk is domestic violence . Every week th local news has a story of some freak barricaded in his house and swat has to move in .

And as far as gang shootings go. At least there’s a motive . They are not random shootings , which is what really freaks out people the most .

Oh bullshit Timmy.
Provide some data to back that up or STFU.

You first !

But hey. Any time you want to compare SIMILAR situated gun nut vs gun control states. I am in.

I already did dumbass.

So, do we have a gang problem or a gun problem? Data collected by the National Gang Center, the government agency responsible for cataloging gang violence, makes clear that it’s the latter. There were 1,824 gang-related killings in 2011. This total includes deaths by means other than a gun. The Bureau of Justice Statistics finds this number to be even lower, identifying a little more than 1,000 gang-related homicides in 2008. In comparison, there were 11,101 homicides and 19,766 suicides committed with firearms in 2011.

Do We Have a Gang Problem or a Gun Problem? | HuffPost

Guns dont kill people.
 
Gun crime is caused by the ease of gun availability . You can spin that it’s all gang violence . It is not . A big chunk is domestic violence . Every week th local news has a story of some freak barricaded in his house and swat has to move in .

And as far as gang shootings go. At least there’s a motive . They are not random shootings , which is what really freaks out people the most .

Oh bullshit Timmy.
Provide some data to back that up or STFU.

You first !

But hey. Any time you want to compare SIMILAR situated gun nut vs gun control states. I am in.

I already did dumbass.

So, do we have a gang problem or a gun problem? Data collected by the National Gang Center, the government agency responsible for cataloging gang violence, makes clear that it’s the latter. There were 1,824 gang-related killings in 2011. This total includes deaths by means other than a gun. The Bureau of Justice Statistics finds this number to be even lower, identifying a little more than 1,000 gang-related homicides in 2008. In comparison, there were 11,101 homicides and 19,766 suicides committed with firearms in 2011.

Do We Have a Gang Problem or a Gun Problem? | HuffPost

Guns dont kill people.

Why are you ignoring the stats?

Our homicide rate is 4-5x that of countries with strong gun control.
 
Gun crime is caused by the ease of gun availability . You can spin that it’s all gang violence . It is not . A big chunk is domestic violence . Every week th local news has a story of some freak barricaded in his house and swat has to move in .

And as far as gang shootings go. At least there’s a motive . They are not random shootings , which is what really freaks out people the most .

Oh bullshit Timmy.
Provide some data to back that up or STFU.

You first !

But hey. Any time you want to compare SIMILAR situated gun nut vs gun control states. I am in.

I already did dumbass.

So, do we have a gang problem or a gun problem? Data collected by the National Gang Center, the government agency responsible for cataloging gang violence, makes clear that it’s the latter. There were 1,824 gang-related killings in 2011. This total includes deaths by means other than a gun. The Bureau of Justice Statistics finds this number to be even lower, identifying a little more than 1,000 gang-related homicides in 2008. In comparison, there were 11,101 homicides and 19,766 suicides committed with firearms in 2011.

Do We Have a Gang Problem or a Gun Problem? | HuffPost

Guns dont kill people.

They don’t !? Then why bother having one ?
 
I have argued this for years, that guns don't people, cities kill people...and the concept bubbled to the surface once again in an article from liberal leaning Vox...that 60% of gun homicides occur in just 50 major US cities.

According to Pew Research, 58% of rural households have legal guns (and 75% of those more than one) while urban household gun ownership is at 29% (mostly consisting of just one gun per household).

Here are your links:
A gun debate compromise: let cities and rural areas pass different laws ,
Rural and urban gun owners have different experiences, views on gun policy

So, here's the two part question...if gun control is the answer...

1] Why do cities, despite a deficit of legal gun owners, represent far and away the highest threat of gun violence to their citizenry. (And, for the record, the answer it isn't poverty...both urban and rural citizens face equal poverty levels.)

2] Why are rural areas where guns are prevalent significantly safer from gun violence?

Keep in mind, this is a correlation, not a conclusion...if we are going to reduce gun violence, we must understand it's root causes. Obviously more legal guns does not equate to more gun violence, and less guns with more regulation does not equate to less gun violence...so what forces are actually at work here?


Gun violence in America is mostly caused by inner city minorities, illegals, gang bangers and druggies.

Not all the gun crime but the vast majority.

Mostly in Democrat controlled big city shitholes.

76 shot in Chicago just last weekend.

Liberals are assholes. They want to take guns away from the people that don't commit the crimes while ignoring the fact that the ones that do commit the crimes don't adhere to gun control laws.

Passing a law to ban AR-15s will prevent the White law abiding man in rural Georgia from having the weapon but will do nothing to stop the 76 shootings in Chicago.

This begs the issue of the Liberals not really caring about gun crime and having a real agenda to curtail the right to keep and bear arms because it is a threat to authoritative socialistic government control, which they love so much.

Gun crime is caused by the ease of gun availability . You can spin that it’s all gang violence . It is not . A big chunk is domestic violence . Every week th local news has a story of some freak barricaded in his house and swat has to move in .

And as far as gang shootings go. At least there’s a motive . They are not random shootings , which is what really freaks out people the most .

Oh bullshit Timmy.
Provide some data to back that up or STFU.

You first !

But hey. Any time you want to compare SIMILAR situated gun nut vs gun control states. I am in.

I already did dumbass.

Here you go .

9 of top 10 gun violent States are deep red gun nuts . Least violence is a sea of Blue .

States with the most (and least) gun violence. See where your state stacks up.
 
Would you rob someone unarmed?

I wouldnt rob anyone.
But with lots of people armed you’d be sure to be armed if you did. And our armed also get their guns stolen at an alarming rate, helping to arm criminals.


Yeah. “Stolen” . More like black market sales .

How is it these people buy guns to stop thieves, and then have those guns stolen!?!

So you're going to blame law abiding citizens for being robbed?

I think a lot of those robberies are bogus OR because of improper securing of the weapons .


You are confused Moon Bat.

The shooting are causes by minority, illegal, druggies, gangbangers,etc assholes shooting one another. 76 of them in Chicago just over the weekend. A city with the strictest gun control laws in the country.

Gun control will never stop the thugs from committing gun crimes. It will only deprive law abiding citizens of their Constitutional rights.
 
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Gun crime is caused by the ease of gun availability . Y .

Bullshit Moon Bat. Youare confused.

For instance, the state of North Dakota as the same number of residences as Washington DC, 1000 times more legal gun ownership and 1/50th the gun crime. If gun availability was the cause of gun crime then states like Wyoming, North Dakota, Utah etc would be the gun crime capitols of the US but they are not. The places where most of the gun crime in this country takes place are the Democrat controlled inner city shitholes with strict gun control laws.
 
I have argued this for years, that guns don't people, cities kill people...and the concept bubbled to the surface once again in an article from liberal leaning Vox...that 60% of gun homicides occur in just 50 major US cities.

According to Pew Research, 58% of rural households have legal guns (and 75% of those more than one) while urban household gun ownership is at 29% (mostly consisting of just one gun per household).

Here are your links:
A gun debate compromise: let cities and rural areas pass different laws ,
Rural and urban gun owners have different experiences, views on gun policy

So, here's the two part question...if gun control is the answer...

1] Why do cities, despite a deficit of legal gun owners, represent far and away the highest threat of gun violence to their citizenry. (And, for the record, the answer it isn't poverty...both urban and rural citizens face equal poverty levels.)

2] Why are rural areas where guns are prevalent significantly safer from gun violence?

Keep in mind, this is a correlation, not a conclusion...if we are going to reduce gun violence, we must understand it's root causes. Obviously more legal guns does not equate to more gun violence, and less guns with more regulation does not equate to less gun violence...so what forces are actually at work here?


Gun violence in America is mostly caused by inner city minorities, illegals, gang bangers and druggies.

Not all the gun crime but the vast majority.

Mostly in Democrat controlled big city shitholes.

76 shot in Chicago just last weekend.

Liberals are assholes. They want to take guns away from the people that don't commit the crimes while ignoring the fact that the ones that do commit the crimes don't adhere to gun control laws.

Passing a law to ban AR-15s will prevent the White law abiding man in rural Georgia from having the weapon but will do nothing to stop the 76 shootings in Chicago.

This begs the issue of the Liberals not really caring about gun crime and having a real agenda to curtail the right to keep and bear arms because it is a threat to authoritative socialistic government control, which they love so much.

Gun crime is caused by the ease of gun availability . You can spin that it’s all gang violence . It is not . A big chunk is domestic violence . Every week th local news has a story of some freak barricaded in his house and swat has to move in .

And as far as gang shootings go. At least there’s a motive . They are not random shootings , which is what really freaks out people the most .


No it isn't...... it is caused by criminals who want them. We have the vast majority of our country that is loaded with guns, but not loaded with gun murder.....our gun murder areas are tiny, even in democrat controlled cities.....out of 22 police districts in Chicago, only 4 have a gun murder prolbem..... the rest are fine, and they all live under the same gun control laws.

If that were true Houston would be worse than Chicago...it isn't

Chicago.... no gun stores, no shooting ranges in city limits. Extreme gun control. 47,000 Concealed carry permits in cook county.....

How Many People Have Concealed Carry Licenses in Your County?

Houston... gun stores on every corner, shooting ranges too, and more concealed carry permits than Chicago. 139,563 licensed permits in the county that contains Houston.

Licensed to Carry: Handguns in Texas

Houston is on the border with the narco state of Mexico....

Gun murder in 2016...

Population of cities 2016:

Chicago........2.7 million

Houston........2.3 million


Murder rate 2016:

Chicago........765

Houston .......301


So you don't know what you are talking about....
 

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