Why did Bush lie about Saddam being connected to 9/11?

[gipper]

No, you're a retard with your hands down your pants.

Why don't you man up to admitting your thread title is a lie you can't back up.

Fuck you, I'm watching my Patriots kick ass.

LOL, I knew you weren't going to man up and admit the thread title is a lie. It's the nature of liars. You lie.

The thread title is true. The Bush administration led the American people to believe something that wasn't true. That is a lie.

As long as you can keep your own doctor we'll be fine.

That's a concession Bush lied. Case closed.

Of course Bush lied. He is a politician after all.

I just wish you leftists, who can quickly recognize a lying R, would realize Ds lie just as much...if not more.

 

[The Rabbi]

This Constitutional business is a red herring. We haven't fought a "Constututional" war since WW2. Thats just not how things are done. And no court has ever ruled any military action unconstitutional.

We haven't followed the Constitution, so it's a red herring? I'm not sure Dred Scott would agree with that.

So if we need to accept Woodrow Wilson's legacy of being policeman to the world without question, do we also need to follow FDR and Obama's socialist economic agendas too? Is that the IRS collecting taxes or the DOJ in the war on terror don't give us constitutional rights like showing just cause and getting warrants and presuming guilt OK since the courts upheld them? Should we just give up and accept it?

I'm actually pretty surprised to hear you argue that, particularly since you started with the red above being so right on.

Actually, I would give the Korean war as Constitutional also. I'd give the Vietnam war an OK too had we fought it to win it rather than be LBJ's economic policy. The "Domino Theory" was not theory, it was stated strategy by the Soviets and it was a direct threat to our defense. I'm not as you misstate actually OK with war when we are actually attacked. But the Middle East is a problem because we are there and shouldn't be.

Slippery slope fallacy.
Carry on.

 

[The Rabbi]

You're only focusing on feelings,

That's all you've posted as proof.
Try again?

You are the only one talking about feelings. I quoted the Constitution.

Look man, if you want to continue with the discussion focus on my argument, the Constitution. If you don't, keep talking about feelings. I have no idea what you are talking about or what the relevance of your feelings to this is. I quoted the Constitution and pointed out the Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. If you disagree with that , argue it. If you keep talking about your feelings I'm not responding anymore to your posts in this discussion.

Obviously we agree on most things, we are thanking each other regularly and we don't disagree very often. But your obsession with your feelings on this is pointless to me. You want to discuss the Constitution or not?

The part of the Constitution you posted does not show the Iraq war was unconstitutional.

Thanks! Appreciate you actually addressing my post.

Not very specific though. I'll repeat my argument, maybe you can direct your argument more to which part you're not agreeing with.

1) Here are the only statement in the Constitution regarding the military.

Preamble: "provide for the common defence"

Article 1. Section 8. "provide for the common defence"

2) The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. By the 10th amendment, all powers not enumerated to the Federal government are prohibited. They are forbidden to do it.

3) So, the Federal government is authorized to defend us, there is no other authority for the military.

4) Iraq was not for the defense of the US. It was policing the world, not an enumerated power. At best you could argue it's in our economic interest, oil, but that's still not defense. I also disagree it's in our long term economic interest. Buying Middle East oil becomes an excuse to not solve our own energy issues. We need to develop at home, there's plenty of energy here, and that is far better to our economy to spend that money here rather than in the Middle East.

I also pointed out, not to you, but in the discussion, when we are propping up despots who teach their children to call on our destruction in their schools, does that not give you a nagging feeling that what we're doing is not exactly of moral fiber? We're doing bad things, that should nag at good people, and I know Todd from all the discussions we have been in, you are a good person.

Thats total nonsense.
What constitutes "national interest" is a shifting phenomenon. We saw what abandoning Afghanistan did for our national interest in 9/11.
We could be energy self sufficient tomorrow. It's simple. Increase taxes on imported oil by 1000%. Price of gas now $10/gal. That will curtain use and bring domestic supply in line with demand.
Really want to do that?
Every president since Nixon has promised a program of national energy self sufficiency. It has never happened. With fracking maybe there's a chance but I doubt that as well since oil is a fungible commodity and it will be sold to the highest bidder.

 

[Mojo2]

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A bad day for bigots and haters...

And we all feel for ya, jackhole.

But don't despair, there's always...

 

[Mojo2]

No, you're a retard with your hands down your pants.

Why don't you man up to admitting your thread title is a lie you can't back up.

Fuck you, I'm watching my Patriots kick ass.

LOL, I knew you weren't going to man up and admit the thread title is a lie. It's the nature of liars. You lie.

The thread title is true. The Bush administration led the American people to believe something that wasn't true. That is a lie.

As long as you can keep your own doctor we'll be fine.

That's a concession Bush lied. Case closed.

Choke on this, bitch.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa'eda row

By Con Coughlin

12:01AM BST 25 Aug 2002


Abu Nidal, the Palestinian terrorist, was murdered on the orders of Saddam Hussein after refusing to train al-Qa'eda fighters based in Iraq, The Telegraph can reveal.

Despite claims by Iraqi officials that Abu Nidal committed suicide after being implicated in a plot to overthrow Saddam, Western diplomats now believe that he was killed for refusing to reactivate his international terrorist network.

According to reports received from Iraqi opposition groups, Abu Nidal had been in Baghdad for months as Saddam's personal guest, and was being treated for a mild form of skin cancer.

While in Baghdad, Abu Nidal, whose real name was Sabri al-Banna, came under pressure from Saddam to help train groups of al-Qa'eda fighters who moved to northern Iraq after fleeing Afghanistan. Saddam also wanted Abu Nidal to carry out attacks against the US and its allies.

When Abu Nidal refused, Saddam ordered his intelligence chiefs to assassinate him. He was shot dead last weekend when Iraqi security forces burst into his apartment in central Baghdad. The body was taken to the hospital where he had had cancer treatment.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa eda row - Telegraph

This may be the "smoking gun" we have overlooked about Iraq and ties to terrorism past and proposed by Saddam.

And who better to head that effort for Saddam but the recognized leader of International Islamic terrorism in the 1970's - 1990's, who just happened to be living in Iraq at the time, none other than...Abu Nidal?!

Abu Nidal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the Muslimgauze album, see Abu Nidal (album).
Abu Nidal
(أبو نضال)
Abu Nidal in an image released in 1976
Born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (صبري خليل البنا)
May 1937
Jaffa, Mandatory Palestine
Died 16 August 2002 (aged 65)
Baghdad, Iraq
Resting place
al-Karakh Islamic cemetery, Baghdad, in a grave marked "M7"
Nationality Palestinian
Alma mater Cairo University
Occupation
Militant Mercenary
Organization
Fatah – The Revolutionary Council
(فتح المجلس الثوري), more generally
known as the Abu Nidal Organization
Movement Palestinian rejectionist front

Abu Nidal (Arabic: أبو نضال meaning "father of [the] struggle"; May 1937 – 16 August 2002), born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (Arabic: صبري خليل البنا), was the founder of "Fatah – The Revolutionary Council" (Arabic: فتح المجلس الثوري), a militant Palestinian splinter group also known as the Abu Nidal Organization (ANO).[1]

At the height of his power in the 1970s and 1980s, Abu Nidal was widely regarded as the most ruthless of the Palestinian political leaders.[2] In a rare interview given in 1985, he told Der Spiegel: "I am the evil spirit which moves around only at night causing ... nightmares."[3]

Abu Nidal formed the ANO in 1974 after splitting from Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction within the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and taking up a rejectionist stance. Acting as a freelance mercenary, the United States Department of State believe he was responsible for attacks in at least twenty different countries, killing or injuring over 900 people.[4] His organization's most notorious operation was the simultaneous Rome and Vienna airport attacks on 27 December 1985, when gunmen opened fire on the El Al ticket counters at both locations, killing eighteen people and wounding 120.

Patrick Seale, Abu Nidal's biographer, wrote of the attacks that their "random cruelty marked them as typical Abu Nidal operations".[5] Reports describing the purges implemented by Abu Nidal and close associates provided further evidence of his and his organization's nature.

Abu Nidal died of between one and four gunshot wounds in Baghdad in August 2002. Palestinian sources believe he was killed on the orders of Saddam Hussein, but the Iraqi government insisted he had committed suicide.[6] The Guardian wrote on the news of his death: "He was the patriot turned psychopath. He served only himself, only the warped personal drives that pushed him into hideous crime. He was the ultimate mercenary."[7]

Abu Nidal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[NYcarbineer]

Fuck you, I'm watching my Patriots kick ass.

LOL, I knew you weren't going to man up and admit the thread title is a lie. It's the nature of liars. You lie.

The thread title is true. The Bush administration led the American people to believe something that wasn't true. That is a lie.

As long as you can keep your own doctor we'll be fine.

That's a concession Bush lied. Case closed.

Choke on this, bitch.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa'eda row

By Con Coughlin

12:01AM BST 25 Aug 2002


Abu Nidal, the Palestinian terrorist, was murdered on the orders of Saddam Hussein after refusing to train al-Qa'eda fighters based in Iraq, The Telegraph can reveal.

Despite claims by Iraqi officials that Abu Nidal committed suicide after being implicated in a plot to overthrow Saddam, Western diplomats now believe that he was killed for refusing to reactivate his international terrorist network.

According to reports received from Iraqi opposition groups, Abu Nidal had been in Baghdad for months as Saddam's personal guest, and was being treated for a mild form of skin cancer.

While in Baghdad, Abu Nidal, whose real name was Sabri al-Banna, came under pressure from Saddam to help train groups of al-Qa'eda fighters who moved to northern Iraq after fleeing Afghanistan. Saddam also wanted Abu Nidal to carry out attacks against the US and its allies.

When Abu Nidal refused, Saddam ordered his intelligence chiefs to assassinate him. He was shot dead last weekend when Iraqi security forces burst into his apartment in central Baghdad. The body was taken to the hospital where he had had cancer treatment.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa eda row - Telegraph

This may be the "smoking gun" we have overlooked about Iraq and ties to terrorism past and proposed by Saddam.

And who better to head that effort for Saddam but the recognized leader of International Islamic terrorism in the 1970's - 1990's, who just happened to be living in Iraq at the time, none other than...Abu Nidal?!

Abu Nidal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the Muslimgauze album, see Abu Nidal (album).
Abu Nidal
(أبو نضال)
Abu Nidal in an image released in 1976
Born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (صبري خليل البنا)
May 1937
Jaffa, Mandatory Palestine
Died 16 August 2002 (aged 65)
Baghdad, Iraq
Resting place
al-Karakh Islamic cemetery, Baghdad, in a grave marked "M7"
Nationality Palestinian
Alma mater Cairo University
Occupation
Militant Mercenary
Organization
Fatah – The Revolutionary Council
(فتح المجلس الثوري), more generally
known as the Abu Nidal Organization
Movement Palestinian rejectionist front

Abu Nidal (Arabic: أبو نضال meaning "father of [the] struggle"; May 1937 – 16 August 2002), born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (Arabic: صبري خليل البنا), was the founder of "Fatah – The Revolutionary Council" (Arabic: فتح المجلس الثوري), a militant Palestinian splinter group also known as the Abu Nidal Organization (ANO).[1]

At the height of his power in the 1970s and 1980s, Abu Nidal was widely regarded as the most ruthless of the Palestinian political leaders.[2] In a rare interview given in 1985, he told Der Spiegel: "I am the evil spirit which moves around only at night causing ... nightmares."[3]

Abu Nidal formed the ANO in 1974 after splitting from Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction within the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and taking up a rejectionist stance. Acting as a freelance mercenary, the United States Department of State believe he was responsible for attacks in at least twenty different countries, killing or injuring over 900 people.[4] His organization's most notorious operation was the simultaneous Rome and Vienna airport attacks on 27 December 1985, when gunmen opened fire on the El Al ticket counters at both locations, killing eighteen people and wounding 120.

Patrick Seale, Abu Nidal's biographer, wrote of the attacks that their "random cruelty marked them as typical Abu Nidal operations".[5] Reports describing the purges implemented by Abu Nidal and close associates provided further evidence of his and his organization's nature.

Abu Nidal died of between one and four gunshot wounds in Baghdad in August 2002. Palestinian sources believe he was killed on the orders of Saddam Hussein, but the Iraqi government insisted he had committed suicide.[6] The Guardian wrote on the news of his death: "He was the patriot turned psychopath. He served only himself, only the warped personal drives that pushed him into hideous crime. He was the ultimate mercenary."[7]

Abu Nidal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

lol, so Saddam kills an infamous terrorist and that's the proof he was an accomplice to 9/11?

that's too stupid to be funny.

 

[Mojo2]

You're only focusing on feelings,

That's all you've posted as proof.
Try again?

You are the only one talking about feelings. I quoted the Constitution.

Look man, if you want to continue with the discussion focus on my argument, the Constitution. If you don't, keep talking about feelings. I have no idea what you are talking about or what the relevance of your feelings to this is. I quoted the Constitution and pointed out the Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. If you disagree with that , argue it. If you keep talking about your feelings I'm not responding anymore to your posts in this discussion.

Obviously we agree on most things, we are thanking each other regularly and we don't disagree very often. But your obsession with your feelings on this is pointless to me. You want to discuss the Constitution or not?

The part of the Constitution you posted does not show the Iraq war was unconstitutional.

Thanks! Appreciate you actually addressing my post.

Not very specific though. I'll repeat my argument, maybe you can direct your argument more to which part you're not agreeing with.

1) Here are the only statement in the Constitution regarding the military.

Preamble: "provide for the common defence"

Article 1. Section 8. "provide for the common defence"

2) The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. By the 10th amendment, all powers not enumerated to the Federal government are prohibited. They are forbidden to do it.

3) So, the Federal government is authorized to defend us, there is no other authority for the military.

4) Iraq was not for the defense of the US. It was policing the world, not an enumerated power. At best you could argue it's in our economic interest, oil, but that's still not defense. I also disagree it's in our long term economic interest. Buying Middle East oil becomes an excuse to not solve our own energy issues. We need to develop at home, there's plenty of energy here, and that is far better to our economy to spend that money here rather than in the Middle East.

I also pointed out, not to you, but in the discussion, when we are propping up despots who teach their children to call on our destruction in their schools, does that not give you a nagging feeling that what we're doing is not exactly of moral fiber? We're doing bad things, that should nag at good people, and I know Todd from all the discussions we have been in, you are a good person.

Bushy had no choice but to call Saddam's bluff on WMD's or else we might have pussyfooted ourselves around to an existential decision on a global scale.

We would not have been spared the fallout from that situation had Bushy done nothing and Saddam hadn't been bluffing.

Invading Iraq was THE best thing, the ONLLY thing W could have done in that situation.

Hindsight is 20/20.

He couldn't take a chance on allowing Israel to go up in a mushroom cloud if Saddam had launched a nuke(s).

But he also couldn't take the chance of leaving th Israelis to handle the potential threat using their own military to attack or invade Iraq. That would have risked global Holy War.

W saved the world from Thermo Nuclear War.

The least we all could do is thank him.

 

[Mojo2]

LOL, I knew you weren't going to man up and admit the thread title is a lie. It's the nature of liars. You lie.

The thread title is true. The Bush administration led the American people to believe something that wasn't true. That is a lie.

As long as you can keep your own doctor we'll be fine.

That's a concession Bush lied. Case closed.

Choke on this, bitch.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa'eda row

By Con Coughlin

12:01AM BST 25 Aug 2002


Abu Nidal, the Palestinian terrorist, was murdered on the orders of Saddam Hussein after refusing to train al-Qa'eda fighters based in Iraq, The Telegraph can reveal.

Despite claims by Iraqi officials that Abu Nidal committed suicide after being implicated in a plot to overthrow Saddam, Western diplomats now believe that he was killed for refusing to reactivate his international terrorist network.

According to reports received from Iraqi opposition groups, Abu Nidal had been in Baghdad for months as Saddam's personal guest, and was being treated for a mild form of skin cancer.

While in Baghdad, Abu Nidal, whose real name was Sabri al-Banna, came under pressure from Saddam to help train groups of al-Qa'eda fighters who moved to northern Iraq after fleeing Afghanistan. Saddam also wanted Abu Nidal to carry out attacks against the US and its allies.

When Abu Nidal refused, Saddam ordered his intelligence chiefs to assassinate him. He was shot dead last weekend when Iraqi security forces burst into his apartment in central Baghdad. The body was taken to the hospital where he had had cancer treatment.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa eda row - Telegraph

This may be the "smoking gun" we have overlooked about Iraq and ties to terrorism past and proposed by Saddam.

And who better to head that effort for Saddam but the recognized leader of International Islamic terrorism in the 1970's - 1990's, who just happened to be living in Iraq at the time, none other than...Abu Nidal?!

Abu Nidal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the Muslimgauze album, see Abu Nidal (album).
Abu Nidal
(أبو نضال)
Abu Nidal in an image released in 1976
Born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (صبري خليل البنا)
May 1937
Jaffa, Mandatory Palestine
Died 16 August 2002 (aged 65)
Baghdad, Iraq
Resting place
al-Karakh Islamic cemetery, Baghdad, in a grave marked "M7"
Nationality Palestinian
Alma mater Cairo University
Occupation
Militant Mercenary
Organization
Fatah – The Revolutionary Council
(فتح المجلس الثوري), more generally
known as the Abu Nidal Organization
Movement Palestinian rejectionist front

Abu Nidal (Arabic: أبو نضال meaning "father of [the] struggle"; May 1937 – 16 August 2002), born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (Arabic: صبري خليل البنا), was the founder of "Fatah – The Revolutionary Council" (Arabic: فتح المجلس الثوري), a militant Palestinian splinter group also known as the Abu Nidal Organization (ANO).[1]

At the height of his power in the 1970s and 1980s, Abu Nidal was widely regarded as the most ruthless of the Palestinian political leaders.[2] In a rare interview given in 1985, he told Der Spiegel: "I am the evil spirit which moves around only at night causing ... nightmares."[3]

Abu Nidal formed the ANO in 1974 after splitting from Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction within the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and taking up a rejectionist stance. Acting as a freelance mercenary, the United States Department of State believe he was responsible for attacks in at least twenty different countries, killing or injuring over 900 people.[4] His organization's most notorious operation was the simultaneous Rome and Vienna airport attacks on 27 December 1985, when gunmen opened fire on the El Al ticket counters at both locations, killing eighteen people and wounding 120.

Patrick Seale, Abu Nidal's biographer, wrote of the attacks that their "random cruelty marked them as typical Abu Nidal operations".[5] Reports describing the purges implemented by Abu Nidal and close associates provided further evidence of his and his organization's nature.

Abu Nidal died of between one and four gunshot wounds in Baghdad in August 2002. Palestinian sources believe he was killed on the orders of Saddam Hussein, but the Iraqi government insisted he had committed suicide.[6] The Guardian wrote on the news of his death: "He was the patriot turned psychopath. He served only himself, only the warped personal drives that pushed him into hideous crime. He was the ultimate mercenary."[7]

Abu Nidal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

lol, so Saddam kills an infamous terrorist and that's the proof he was an accomplice to 9/11?

that's too stupid to be funny.

Saddam did not want the Godfather of International Terrorism to be caught in Iraq just as Saddam's plans to increase Iraq's terrorist agenda were just getting started.

At the time, Saddam still believed the US would not actually invade.

Saddam was much more worried about keeping Iran on its side of their border.

That's the conclusion the Telegraph came to.

I think I'd believe them rather than you.

This a continuation of the previously cited Telegraph article.

The Iraqi authorities later claimed that Abu Nidal had killed himself when confronted with evidence that he was involved in a plot to overthrow Saddam.

"There is no doubt that Abu Nidal was murdered on Saddam's orders," said a US official who has studied the reports. "He paid the price for not co-operating with Saddam's wishes."

Last week, American intelligence officials revealed that several high-ranking al-Qa'eda members had moved to northern Iraq where they had linked up with Iraqi intelligence officials.

It now transpires that Saddam was hoping to take advantage of Abu Nidal's presence in Baghdad to persuade him to use his considerable expertise in terrorist techniques to train al-Qa'eda fighters.

Abu Nidal worked closely with Saddam during the late 1970s and early 1980s to carry out a number of terrorist outrages in the Middle East and Europe, including the attempted assassination of the Israeli ambassador to London in 1982.

In recent years, Abu Nidal, who has been ill for many years, had scaled down his terror operations.

With the prospect increasing of the US launching a military campaign to overthrow Saddam, however, the Iraqi dictator was keen to combine Abu Nidal's expertise with the enthusiasm of al-Qa'eda's fanatical fighters to launch a fresh wave of terror attacks. In this way, Saddam hoped to disrupt Washington's plans to overthrow him.

The presence of al-Qa'eda fighters in Iraq has become a source of great concern in Washington.

US Defence Department officials said that a number of very senior al-Qa'eda members was now based in northern Iraq close to the Iranian border at Halabja.

Although Iraqi officials have denied any knowledge of the al-Qa'eda fighters' presence, Donald Rumsfeld, the US Defence Secretary, said last week that it was highly unlikely that they could have entered Iraq without Saddam's knowledge.

"There are al-Qa'eda in a number of locations in Iraq," he said. "In a vicious, repressive dictatorship that exercises near total control over its population, it's very hard to imagine that the government is not aware of what is taking place in the country."

 

[The Rabbi]

LOL, I knew you weren't going to man up and admit the thread title is a lie. It's the nature of liars. You lie.

The thread title is true. The Bush administration led the American people to believe something that wasn't true. That is a lie.

As long as you can keep your own doctor we'll be fine.

That's a concession Bush lied. Case closed.

Choke on this, bitch.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa'eda row

By Con Coughlin

12:01AM BST 25 Aug 2002


Abu Nidal, the Palestinian terrorist, was murdered on the orders of Saddam Hussein after refusing to train al-Qa'eda fighters based in Iraq, The Telegraph can reveal.

Despite claims by Iraqi officials that Abu Nidal committed suicide after being implicated in a plot to overthrow Saddam, Western diplomats now believe that he was killed for refusing to reactivate his international terrorist network.

According to reports received from Iraqi opposition groups, Abu Nidal had been in Baghdad for months as Saddam's personal guest, and was being treated for a mild form of skin cancer.

While in Baghdad, Abu Nidal, whose real name was Sabri al-Banna, came under pressure from Saddam to help train groups of al-Qa'eda fighters who moved to northern Iraq after fleeing Afghanistan. Saddam also wanted Abu Nidal to carry out attacks against the US and its allies.

When Abu Nidal refused, Saddam ordered his intelligence chiefs to assassinate him. He was shot dead last weekend when Iraqi security forces burst into his apartment in central Baghdad. The body was taken to the hospital where he had had cancer treatment.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa eda row - Telegraph

This may be the "smoking gun" we have overlooked about Iraq and ties to terrorism past and proposed by Saddam.

And who better to head that effort for Saddam but the recognized leader of International Islamic terrorism in the 1970's - 1990's, who just happened to be living in Iraq at the time, none other than...Abu Nidal?!

Abu Nidal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the Muslimgauze album, see Abu Nidal (album).
Abu Nidal
(أبو نضال)
Abu Nidal in an image released in 1976
Born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (صبري خليل البنا)
May 1937
Jaffa, Mandatory Palestine
Died 16 August 2002 (aged 65)
Baghdad, Iraq
Resting place
al-Karakh Islamic cemetery, Baghdad, in a grave marked "M7"
Nationality Palestinian
Alma mater Cairo University
Occupation
Militant Mercenary
Organization
Fatah – The Revolutionary Council
(فتح المجلس الثوري), more generally
known as the Abu Nidal Organization
Movement Palestinian rejectionist front

Abu Nidal (Arabic: أبو نضال meaning "father of [the] struggle"; May 1937 – 16 August 2002), born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (Arabic: صبري خليل البنا), was the founder of "Fatah – The Revolutionary Council" (Arabic: فتح المجلس الثوري), a militant Palestinian splinter group also known as the Abu Nidal Organization (ANO).[1]

At the height of his power in the 1970s and 1980s, Abu Nidal was widely regarded as the most ruthless of the Palestinian political leaders.[2] In a rare interview given in 1985, he told Der Spiegel: "I am the evil spirit which moves around only at night causing ... nightmares."[3]

Abu Nidal formed the ANO in 1974 after splitting from Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction within the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and taking up a rejectionist stance. Acting as a freelance mercenary, the United States Department of State believe he was responsible for attacks in at least twenty different countries, killing or injuring over 900 people.[4] His organization's most notorious operation was the simultaneous Rome and Vienna airport attacks on 27 December 1985, when gunmen opened fire on the El Al ticket counters at both locations, killing eighteen people and wounding 120.

Patrick Seale, Abu Nidal's biographer, wrote of the attacks that their "random cruelty marked them as typical Abu Nidal operations".[5] Reports describing the purges implemented by Abu Nidal and close associates provided further evidence of his and his organization's nature.

Abu Nidal died of between one and four gunshot wounds in Baghdad in August 2002. Palestinian sources believe he was killed on the orders of Saddam Hussein, but the Iraqi government insisted he had committed suicide.[6] The Guardian wrote on the news of his death: "He was the patriot turned psychopath. He served only himself, only the warped personal drives that pushed him into hideous crime. He was the ultimate mercenary."[7]

Abu Nidal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

lol, so Saddam kills an infamous terrorist and that's the proof he was an accomplice to 9/11?

that's too stupid to be funny.

Saddam was hiding abu Nidal for years.
Next.
You're simply too stupid to get any of this.

 

[Mojo2]

LOL, I knew you weren't going to man up and admit the thread title is a lie. It's the nature of liars. You lie.

The thread title is true. The Bush administration led the American people to believe something that wasn't true. That is a lie.

As long as you can keep your own doctor we'll be fine.

That's a concession Bush lied. Case closed.

Choke on this, bitch.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa'eda row

By Con Coughlin

12:01AM BST 25 Aug 2002


Abu Nidal, the Palestinian terrorist, was murdered on the orders of Saddam Hussein after refusing to train al-Qa'eda fighters based in Iraq, The Telegraph can reveal.

Despite claims by Iraqi officials that Abu Nidal committed suicide after being implicated in a plot to overthrow Saddam, Western diplomats now believe that he was killed for refusing to reactivate his international terrorist network.

According to reports received from Iraqi opposition groups, Abu Nidal had been in Baghdad for months as Saddam's personal guest, and was being treated for a mild form of skin cancer.

While in Baghdad, Abu Nidal, whose real name was Sabri al-Banna, came under pressure from Saddam to help train groups of al-Qa'eda fighters who moved to northern Iraq after fleeing Afghanistan. Saddam also wanted Abu Nidal to carry out attacks against the US and its allies.

When Abu Nidal refused, Saddam ordered his intelligence chiefs to assassinate him. He was shot dead last weekend when Iraqi security forces burst into his apartment in central Baghdad. The body was taken to the hospital where he had had cancer treatment.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa eda row - Telegraph

This may be the "smoking gun" we have overlooked about Iraq and ties to terrorism past and proposed by Saddam.

And who better to head that effort for Saddam but the recognized leader of International Islamic terrorism in the 1970's - 1990's, who just happened to be living in Iraq at the time, none other than...Abu Nidal?!

Abu Nidal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the Muslimgauze album, see Abu Nidal (album).
Abu Nidal
(أبو نضال)
Abu Nidal in an image released in 1976
Born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (صبري خليل البنا)
May 1937
Jaffa, Mandatory Palestine
Died 16 August 2002 (aged 65)
Baghdad, Iraq
Resting place
al-Karakh Islamic cemetery, Baghdad, in a grave marked "M7"
Nationality Palestinian
Alma mater Cairo University
Occupation
Militant Mercenary
Organization
Fatah – The Revolutionary Council
(فتح المجلس الثوري), more generally
known as the Abu Nidal Organization
Movement Palestinian rejectionist front

Abu Nidal (Arabic: أبو نضال meaning "father of [the] struggle"; May 1937 – 16 August 2002), born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (Arabic: صبري خليل البنا), was the founder of "Fatah – The Revolutionary Council" (Arabic: فتح المجلس الثوري), a militant Palestinian splinter group also known as the Abu Nidal Organization (ANO).[1]

At the height of his power in the 1970s and 1980s, Abu Nidal was widely regarded as the most ruthless of the Palestinian political leaders.[2] In a rare interview given in 1985, he told Der Spiegel: "I am the evil spirit which moves around only at night causing ... nightmares."[3]

Abu Nidal formed the ANO in 1974 after splitting from Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction within the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and taking up a rejectionist stance. Acting as a freelance mercenary, the United States Department of State believe he was responsible for attacks in at least twenty different countries, killing or injuring over 900 people.[4] His organization's most notorious operation was the simultaneous Rome and Vienna airport attacks on 27 December 1985, when gunmen opened fire on the El Al ticket counters at both locations, killing eighteen people and wounding 120.

Patrick Seale, Abu Nidal's biographer, wrote of the attacks that their "random cruelty marked them as typical Abu Nidal operations".[5] Reports describing the purges implemented by Abu Nidal and close associates provided further evidence of his and his organization's nature.

Abu Nidal died of between one and four gunshot wounds in Baghdad in August 2002. Palestinian sources believe he was killed on the orders of Saddam Hussein, but the Iraqi government insisted he had committed suicide.[6] The Guardian wrote on the news of his death: "He was the patriot turned psychopath. He served only himself, only the warped personal drives that pushed him into hideous crime. He was the ultimate mercenary."[7]

Abu Nidal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

lol, so Saddam kills an infamous terrorist and that's the proof he was an accomplice to 9/11?

that's too stupid to be funny.

"...too stupid to be funny."

You are describing yourself with this statement.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The thread title is true. The Bush administration led the American people to believe something that wasn't true. That is a lie.

As long as you can keep your own doctor we'll be fine.

That's a concession Bush lied. Case closed.

Choke on this, bitch.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa'eda row

By Con Coughlin

12:01AM BST 25 Aug 2002


Abu Nidal, the Palestinian terrorist, was murdered on the orders of Saddam Hussein after refusing to train al-Qa'eda fighters based in Iraq, The Telegraph can reveal.

Despite claims by Iraqi officials that Abu Nidal committed suicide after being implicated in a plot to overthrow Saddam, Western diplomats now believe that he was killed for refusing to reactivate his international terrorist network.

According to reports received from Iraqi opposition groups, Abu Nidal had been in Baghdad for months as Saddam's personal guest, and was being treated for a mild form of skin cancer.

While in Baghdad, Abu Nidal, whose real name was Sabri al-Banna, came under pressure from Saddam to help train groups of al-Qa'eda fighters who moved to northern Iraq after fleeing Afghanistan. Saddam also wanted Abu Nidal to carry out attacks against the US and its allies.

When Abu Nidal refused, Saddam ordered his intelligence chiefs to assassinate him. He was shot dead last weekend when Iraqi security forces burst into his apartment in central Baghdad. The body was taken to the hospital where he had had cancer treatment.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa eda row - Telegraph

This may be the "smoking gun" we have overlooked about Iraq and ties to terrorism past and proposed by Saddam.

And who better to head that effort for Saddam but the recognized leader of International Islamic terrorism in the 1970's - 1990's, who just happened to be living in Iraq at the time, none other than...Abu Nidal?!

Abu Nidal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the Muslimgauze album, see Abu Nidal (album).
Abu Nidal
(أبو نضال)
Abu Nidal in an image released in 1976
Born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (صبري خليل البنا)
May 1937
Jaffa, Mandatory Palestine
Died 16 August 2002 (aged 65)
Baghdad, Iraq
Resting place
al-Karakh Islamic cemetery, Baghdad, in a grave marked "M7"
Nationality Palestinian
Alma mater Cairo University
Occupation
Militant Mercenary
Organization
Fatah – The Revolutionary Council
(فتح المجلس الثوري), more generally
known as the Abu Nidal Organization
Movement Palestinian rejectionist front

Abu Nidal (Arabic: أبو نضال meaning "father of [the] struggle"; May 1937 – 16 August 2002), born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (Arabic: صبري خليل البنا), was the founder of "Fatah – The Revolutionary Council" (Arabic: فتح المجلس الثوري), a militant Palestinian splinter group also known as the Abu Nidal Organization (ANO).[1]

At the height of his power in the 1970s and 1980s, Abu Nidal was widely regarded as the most ruthless of the Palestinian political leaders.[2] In a rare interview given in 1985, he told Der Spiegel: "I am the evil spirit which moves around only at night causing ... nightmares."[3]

Abu Nidal formed the ANO in 1974 after splitting from Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction within the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and taking up a rejectionist stance. Acting as a freelance mercenary, the United States Department of State believe he was responsible for attacks in at least twenty different countries, killing or injuring over 900 people.[4] His organization's most notorious operation was the simultaneous Rome and Vienna airport attacks on 27 December 1985, when gunmen opened fire on the El Al ticket counters at both locations, killing eighteen people and wounding 120.

Patrick Seale, Abu Nidal's biographer, wrote of the attacks that their "random cruelty marked them as typical Abu Nidal operations".[5] Reports describing the purges implemented by Abu Nidal and close associates provided further evidence of his and his organization's nature.

Abu Nidal died of between one and four gunshot wounds in Baghdad in August 2002. Palestinian sources believe he was killed on the orders of Saddam Hussein, but the Iraqi government insisted he had committed suicide.[6] The Guardian wrote on the news of his death: "He was the patriot turned psychopath. He served only himself, only the warped personal drives that pushed him into hideous crime. He was the ultimate mercenary."[7]

Abu Nidal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

lol, so Saddam kills an infamous terrorist and that's the proof he was an accomplice to 9/11?

that's too stupid to be funny.

Saddam was hiding abu Nidal for years.
Next.
You're simply too stupid to get any of this.

And Abu Nidal was what part of 9/11?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The thread title is true. The Bush administration led the American people to believe something that wasn't true. That is a lie.

As long as you can keep your own doctor we'll be fine.

That's a concession Bush lied. Case closed.

Choke on this, bitch.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa'eda row

By Con Coughlin

12:01AM BST 25 Aug 2002


Abu Nidal, the Palestinian terrorist, was murdered on the orders of Saddam Hussein after refusing to train al-Qa'eda fighters based in Iraq, The Telegraph can reveal.

Despite claims by Iraqi officials that Abu Nidal committed suicide after being implicated in a plot to overthrow Saddam, Western diplomats now believe that he was killed for refusing to reactivate his international terrorist network.

According to reports received from Iraqi opposition groups, Abu Nidal had been in Baghdad for months as Saddam's personal guest, and was being treated for a mild form of skin cancer.

While in Baghdad, Abu Nidal, whose real name was Sabri al-Banna, came under pressure from Saddam to help train groups of al-Qa'eda fighters who moved to northern Iraq after fleeing Afghanistan. Saddam also wanted Abu Nidal to carry out attacks against the US and its allies.

When Abu Nidal refused, Saddam ordered his intelligence chiefs to assassinate him. He was shot dead last weekend when Iraqi security forces burst into his apartment in central Baghdad. The body was taken to the hospital where he had had cancer treatment.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa eda row - Telegraph

This may be the "smoking gun" we have overlooked about Iraq and ties to terrorism past and proposed by Saddam.

And who better to head that effort for Saddam but the recognized leader of International Islamic terrorism in the 1970's - 1990's, who just happened to be living in Iraq at the time, none other than...Abu Nidal?!

Abu Nidal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the Muslimgauze album, see Abu Nidal (album).
Abu Nidal
(أبو نضال)
Abu Nidal in an image released in 1976
Born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (صبري خليل البنا)
May 1937
Jaffa, Mandatory Palestine
Died 16 August 2002 (aged 65)
Baghdad, Iraq
Resting place
al-Karakh Islamic cemetery, Baghdad, in a grave marked "M7"
Nationality Palestinian
Alma mater Cairo University
Occupation
Militant Mercenary
Organization
Fatah – The Revolutionary Council
(فتح المجلس الثوري), more generally
known as the Abu Nidal Organization
Movement Palestinian rejectionist front

Abu Nidal (Arabic: أبو نضال meaning "father of [the] struggle"; May 1937 – 16 August 2002), born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (Arabic: صبري خليل البنا), was the founder of "Fatah – The Revolutionary Council" (Arabic: فتح المجلس الثوري), a militant Palestinian splinter group also known as the Abu Nidal Organization (ANO).[1]

At the height of his power in the 1970s and 1980s, Abu Nidal was widely regarded as the most ruthless of the Palestinian political leaders.[2] In a rare interview given in 1985, he told Der Spiegel: "I am the evil spirit which moves around only at night causing ... nightmares."[3]

Abu Nidal formed the ANO in 1974 after splitting from Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction within the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and taking up a rejectionist stance. Acting as a freelance mercenary, the United States Department of State believe he was responsible for attacks in at least twenty different countries, killing or injuring over 900 people.[4] His organization's most notorious operation was the simultaneous Rome and Vienna airport attacks on 27 December 1985, when gunmen opened fire on the El Al ticket counters at both locations, killing eighteen people and wounding 120.

Patrick Seale, Abu Nidal's biographer, wrote of the attacks that their "random cruelty marked them as typical Abu Nidal operations".[5] Reports describing the purges implemented by Abu Nidal and close associates provided further evidence of his and his organization's nature.

Abu Nidal died of between one and four gunshot wounds in Baghdad in August 2002. Palestinian sources believe he was killed on the orders of Saddam Hussein, but the Iraqi government insisted he had committed suicide.[6] The Guardian wrote on the news of his death: "He was the patriot turned psychopath. He served only himself, only the warped personal drives that pushed him into hideous crime. He was the ultimate mercenary."[7]

Abu Nidal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

lol, so Saddam kills an infamous terrorist and that's the proof he was an accomplice to 9/11?

that's too stupid to be funny.

"...too stupid to be funny."

You are describing yourself with this statement.

What part did Abu Nidal have in 9/11?

 

[Tuatara]

Condoleezza Rice - We Didn't Tie Saddam to 9/11

Lie by Lie: A Timeline of How We Got Into Iraq

​

Liekhota, have you yet admitted that Bush never claimed that Iraq was connected to 9/11?

You're done

Administration Quotes Linking 9 11 to Iraq

Democratic Underground is a fail, s0n.

Are you saying these quotes are not real? Please by all means, dispute the legitimacy of the actual quotes. Your response is a fail. These quotes are everywhere.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

LOL, I knew you weren't going to man up and admit the thread title is a lie. It's the nature of liars. You lie.

The thread title is true. The Bush administration led the American people to believe something that wasn't true. That is a lie.

As long as you can keep your own doctor we'll be fine.

That's a concession Bush lied. Case closed.

Choke on this, bitch.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa'eda row

By Con Coughlin

12:01AM BST 25 Aug 2002


Abu Nidal, the Palestinian terrorist, was murdered on the orders of Saddam Hussein after refusing to train al-Qa'eda fighters based in Iraq, The Telegraph can reveal.

Despite claims by Iraqi officials that Abu Nidal committed suicide after being implicated in a plot to overthrow Saddam, Western diplomats now believe that he was killed for refusing to reactivate his international terrorist network.

According to reports received from Iraqi opposition groups, Abu Nidal had been in Baghdad for months as Saddam's personal guest, and was being treated for a mild form of skin cancer.

While in Baghdad, Abu Nidal, whose real name was Sabri al-Banna, came under pressure from Saddam to help train groups of al-Qa'eda fighters who moved to northern Iraq after fleeing Afghanistan. Saddam also wanted Abu Nidal to carry out attacks against the US and its allies.

When Abu Nidal refused, Saddam ordered his intelligence chiefs to assassinate him. He was shot dead last weekend when Iraqi security forces burst into his apartment in central Baghdad. The body was taken to the hospital where he had had cancer treatment.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa eda row - Telegraph

This may be the "smoking gun" we have overlooked about Iraq and ties to terrorism past and proposed by Saddam.

And who better to head that effort for Saddam but the recognized leader of International Islamic terrorism in the 1970's - 1990's, who just happened to be living in Iraq at the time, none other than...Abu Nidal?!

Abu Nidal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the Muslimgauze album, see Abu Nidal (album).
Abu Nidal
(أبو نضال)
Abu Nidal in an image released in 1976
Born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (صبري خليل البنا)
May 1937
Jaffa, Mandatory Palestine
Died 16 August 2002 (aged 65)
Baghdad, Iraq
Resting place
al-Karakh Islamic cemetery, Baghdad, in a grave marked "M7"
Nationality Palestinian
Alma mater Cairo University
Occupation
Militant Mercenary
Organization
Fatah – The Revolutionary Council
(فتح المجلس الثوري), more generally
known as the Abu Nidal Organization
Movement Palestinian rejectionist front

Abu Nidal (Arabic: أبو نضال meaning "father of [the] struggle"; May 1937 – 16 August 2002), born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (Arabic: صبري خليل البنا), was the founder of "Fatah – The Revolutionary Council" (Arabic: فتح المجلس الثوري), a militant Palestinian splinter group also known as the Abu Nidal Organization (ANO).[1]

At the height of his power in the 1970s and 1980s, Abu Nidal was widely regarded as the most ruthless of the Palestinian political leaders.[2] In a rare interview given in 1985, he told Der Spiegel: "I am the evil spirit which moves around only at night causing ... nightmares."[3]

Abu Nidal formed the ANO in 1974 after splitting from Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction within the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and taking up a rejectionist stance. Acting as a freelance mercenary, the United States Department of State believe he was responsible for attacks in at least twenty different countries, killing or injuring over 900 people.[4] His organization's most notorious operation was the simultaneous Rome and Vienna airport attacks on 27 December 1985, when gunmen opened fire on the El Al ticket counters at both locations, killing eighteen people and wounding 120.

Patrick Seale, Abu Nidal's biographer, wrote of the attacks that their "random cruelty marked them as typical Abu Nidal operations".[5] Reports describing the purges implemented by Abu Nidal and close associates provided further evidence of his and his organization's nature.

Abu Nidal died of between one and four gunshot wounds in Baghdad in August 2002. Palestinian sources believe he was killed on the orders of Saddam Hussein, but the Iraqi government insisted he had committed suicide.[6] The Guardian wrote on the news of his death: "He was the patriot turned psychopath. He served only himself, only the warped personal drives that pushed him into hideous crime. He was the ultimate mercenary."[7]

Abu Nidal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

lol, so Saddam kills an infamous terrorist and that's the proof he was an accomplice to 9/11?

that's too stupid to be funny.

Terrorists kill their accomplices all the time.

Hell, the US has done it..

 

[Flopper]

I really don't mind being called a liar by someone who is too dumb to know such a basic fact.

[ame=[MEDIA=youtube]YPJCPcYCupY[/MEDIA] LIES - Bush Cheney Rumsfeld - THE ULTIMATE CLIP (Edited) - YouTube[/ame]

I watched the entire video and nowhere in that video did you show that Bush lied about Saddam an 9/11. In fact your video shows that Bush said Saddam was not involved in 9/11. Did you even watch the video before posting it?

Bush had trouble putting together two coherent sentences about anything so he left the explanation of the linkage between 911 and the Saddam to his minions but he did try. "The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al Qaeda: because there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda," Bush said after a Cabinet meeting. As evidence, he cited Iraqi intelligence officers' meeting with bin Laden in Sudan. "There's numerous contacts between the two," Bush said.

The historical record pretty clearly demonstrates the distortions the administration employed to make the case that Saddam Hussein had WMDs. Inspectors who said they didn't exist were ignored, false stories about aluminum tubes and yellowcake from Africa were peddled assertively, Iraqi defectors that were known liars were used as anonymous sources alleging Saddam’s WMD development, etc.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The United States secretly shipped out of Iraq more than 500 tons of low-grade uranium dating back to the Saddam Hussein era, the Pentagon said Monday.

The U.S. military spent $70 million ensuring the safe transportation of 550 metric tons of the uranium from Iraq to Canada, said Pentagon spokesman Brian Whitman.

The shipment, which until recently was kept secret, involved a U.S. truck convoy, 37 cargo flights out of Baghdad to a transitional location, and then a transoceanic voyage on board a U.S.-government-owned ship designed to carry troops to a war zone, he said.

The "yellowcake" uranium transfer was requested by the Iraqi government at the encouragement of the U.S. government, Whitman said.

500 tons of uranium shipped from Iraq Pentagon says - CNN.com

It was not enriched and could not be used without first going through a complicated enrichment process. It was of no threat to US, but because of the unstable nature of Iraq, the United States and the Iraqi government decided it should be moved out of that country. This pretty well shoots down the claim that Saddam was trying to buy yellow cake uranium from Africa.

here is what YOU posted "Inspectors who said they didn't exist were ignored, false stories about aluminum tubes and yellowcake from Africa were peddled assertively,"

500 tons of yellowcake....doesn't seem to fit what you posted. Of course Uranium needs enriched.

I think you're missing to point. The fact is it did exist. So why would Saddam be buying more from Africa when he had 500 tons that he couldn't process.

 

[Tuatara]

Condoleezza Rice - We Didn't Tie Saddam to 9/11

Lie by Lie: A Timeline of How We Got Into Iraq

​

Liekhota, have you yet admitted that Bush never claimed that Iraq was connected to 9/11?

You're done

Administration Quotes Linking 9 11 to Iraq

If you read through the quotes not one, that I saw, made that direct connection. A connection to al Qaeda yes, to 9/11 no.

WikiLeaks: The Iraq-Al Qaeda Connection Confirmed, Again

A former Guantanamo detainee “was identified as an Iraqi intelligence officer who relocated to Afghanistan (AF) in 1998 where he served as a senior Taliban Intelligence Directorate officer in Mazar-E-Sharif,” according to a recently leaked assessment written by American intelligence analysts. The former detainee, an Iraqi named Jawad Jabber Sadkhan, “admittedly forged official documents and reportedly provided liaison between the governments of Afghanistan and Iraq.”

Sadkhan’s al Qaeda ties reached all the way to Osama bin Laden, according to the intelligence assessment. He reportedly received money from Osama bin Laden both before and after the September 11 attacks.

Now you are looking for a direct connection. This is how it went. Bush and Co. say We were attacked on 911 by al Qaeda. Saddam has direct ties and is harbouring and training al Qaeda. I don't know about the rest of you but that is painting a picture of a direct tie.

If you actually read the Wikileaks document it talks about one guy (Jawad Jabber Sadkhanthat) who went AWOL in the Iraqi army, served time for forging documents and was wanted for theft so he fled Iraq in 1997. He had no ties to Saddam but he did recieve money from US citizen Shaykh Jawad. All the other Iraqi-al Qaeda ties in the Wiki document came after the US invasion in 2003.

 

[Camp]

Fuck you, I'm watching my Patriots kick ass.

LOL, I knew you weren't going to man up and admit the thread title is a lie. It's the nature of liars. You lie.

The thread title is true. The Bush administration led the American people to believe something that wasn't true. That is a lie.

As long as you can keep your own doctor we'll be fine.

That's a concession Bush lied. Case closed.

Choke on this, bitch.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa'eda row

By Con Coughlin

12:01AM BST 25 Aug 2002


Abu Nidal, the Palestinian terrorist, was murdered on the orders of Saddam Hussein after refusing to train al-Qa'eda fighters based in Iraq, The Telegraph can reveal.

Despite claims by Iraqi officials that Abu Nidal committed suicide after being implicated in a plot to overthrow Saddam, Western diplomats now believe that he was killed for refusing to reactivate his international terrorist network.

According to reports received from Iraqi opposition groups, Abu Nidal had been in Baghdad for months as Saddam's personal guest, and was being treated for a mild form of skin cancer.

While in Baghdad, Abu Nidal, whose real name was Sabri al-Banna, came under pressure from Saddam to help train groups of al-Qa'eda fighters who moved to northern Iraq after fleeing Afghanistan. Saddam also wanted Abu Nidal to carry out attacks against the US and its allies.

When Abu Nidal refused, Saddam ordered his intelligence chiefs to assassinate him. He was shot dead last weekend when Iraqi security forces burst into his apartment in central Baghdad. The body was taken to the hospital where he had had cancer treatment.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa eda row - Telegraph

This may be the "smoking gun" we have overlooked about Iraq and ties to terrorism past and proposed by Saddam.

And who better to head that effort for Saddam but the recognized leader of International Islamic terrorism in the 1970's - 1990's, who just happened to be living in Iraq at the time, none other than...Abu Nidal?!

Abu Nidal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the Muslimgauze album, see Abu Nidal (album).
Abu Nidal
(أبو نضال)
Abu Nidal in an image released in 1976
Born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (صبري خليل البنا)
May 1937
Jaffa, Mandatory Palestine
Died 16 August 2002 (aged 65)
Baghdad, Iraq
Resting place
al-Karakh Islamic cemetery, Baghdad, in a grave marked "M7"
Nationality Palestinian
Alma mater Cairo University
Occupation
Militant Mercenary
Organization
Fatah – The Revolutionary Council
(فتح المجلس الثوري), more generally
known as the Abu Nidal Organization
Movement Palestinian rejectionist front

Abu Nidal (Arabic: أبو نضال meaning "father of [the] struggle"; May 1937 – 16 August 2002), born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (Arabic: صبري خليل البنا), was the founder of "Fatah – The Revolutionary Council" (Arabic: فتح المجلس الثوري), a militant Palestinian splinter group also known as the Abu Nidal Organization (ANO).[1]

At the height of his power in the 1970s and 1980s, Abu Nidal was widely regarded as the most ruthless of the Palestinian political leaders.[2] In a rare interview given in 1985, he told Der Spiegel: "I am the evil spirit which moves around only at night causing ... nightmares."[3]

Abu Nidal formed the ANO in 1974 after splitting from Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction within the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and taking up a rejectionist stance. Acting as a freelance mercenary, the United States Department of State believe he was responsible for attacks in at least twenty different countries, killing or injuring over 900 people.[4] His organization's most notorious operation was the simultaneous Rome and Vienna airport attacks on 27 December 1985, when gunmen opened fire on the El Al ticket counters at both locations, killing eighteen people and wounding 120.

Patrick Seale, Abu Nidal's biographer, wrote of the attacks that their "random cruelty marked them as typical Abu Nidal operations".[5] Reports describing the purges implemented by Abu Nidal and close associates provided further evidence of his and his organization's nature.

Abu Nidal died of between one and four gunshot wounds in Baghdad in August 2002. Palestinian sources believe he was killed on the orders of Saddam Hussein, but the Iraqi government insisted he had committed suicide.[6] The Guardian wrote on the news of his death: "He was the patriot turned psychopath. He served only himself, only the warped personal drives that pushed him into hideous crime. He was the ultimate mercenary."[7]

Abu Nidal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Old story that was attacked immediately by other media. It was based on a anonymous source and an alleged document. The telegraph admitted it could not verify the document as genuine. In addition it conflicted with accounts by both Kuwait and Egyptian intelligence reports. Not a shred of evidence of the stories veracity has ever been brought forward. Interestingly, the story came out during the same time frame as the stories about the hijackers being trained on an abandoned airliner at Baghdad airport and the report of Iraqi intelligence meeting with al Qaeda in Prague.

 

[Mojo2]

As long as you can keep your own doctor we'll be fine.

That's a concession Bush lied. Case closed.

Choke on this, bitch.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa'eda row

By Con Coughlin

12:01AM BST 25 Aug 2002


Abu Nidal, the Palestinian terrorist, was murdered on the orders of Saddam Hussein after refusing to train al-Qa'eda fighters based in Iraq, The Telegraph can reveal.

Despite claims by Iraqi officials that Abu Nidal committed suicide after being implicated in a plot to overthrow Saddam, Western diplomats now believe that he was killed for refusing to reactivate his international terrorist network.

According to reports received from Iraqi opposition groups, Abu Nidal had been in Baghdad for months as Saddam's personal guest, and was being treated for a mild form of skin cancer.

While in Baghdad, Abu Nidal, whose real name was Sabri al-Banna, came under pressure from Saddam to help train groups of al-Qa'eda fighters who moved to northern Iraq after fleeing Afghanistan. Saddam also wanted Abu Nidal to carry out attacks against the US and its allies.

When Abu Nidal refused, Saddam ordered his intelligence chiefs to assassinate him. He was shot dead last weekend when Iraqi security forces burst into his apartment in central Baghdad. The body was taken to the hospital where he had had cancer treatment.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa eda row - Telegraph

This may be the "smoking gun" we have overlooked about Iraq and ties to terrorism past and proposed by Saddam.

And who better to head that effort for Saddam but the recognized leader of International Islamic terrorism in the 1970's - 1990's, who just happened to be living in Iraq at the time, none other than...Abu Nidal?!

Abu Nidal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the Muslimgauze album, see Abu Nidal (album).
Abu Nidal
(أبو نضال)
Abu Nidal in an image released in 1976
Born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (صبري خليل البنا)
May 1937
Jaffa, Mandatory Palestine
Died 16 August 2002 (aged 65)
Baghdad, Iraq
Resting place
al-Karakh Islamic cemetery, Baghdad, in a grave marked "M7"
Nationality Palestinian
Alma mater Cairo University
Occupation
Militant Mercenary
Organization
Fatah – The Revolutionary Council
(فتح المجلس الثوري), more generally
known as the Abu Nidal Organization
Movement Palestinian rejectionist front

Abu Nidal (Arabic: أبو نضال meaning "father of [the] struggle"; May 1937 – 16 August 2002), born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (Arabic: صبري خليل البنا), was the founder of "Fatah – The Revolutionary Council" (Arabic: فتح المجلس الثوري), a militant Palestinian splinter group also known as the Abu Nidal Organization (ANO).[1]

At the height of his power in the 1970s and 1980s, Abu Nidal was widely regarded as the most ruthless of the Palestinian political leaders.[2] In a rare interview given in 1985, he told Der Spiegel: "I am the evil spirit which moves around only at night causing ... nightmares."[3]

Abu Nidal formed the ANO in 1974 after splitting from Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction within the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and taking up a rejectionist stance. Acting as a freelance mercenary, the United States Department of State believe he was responsible for attacks in at least twenty different countries, killing or injuring over 900 people.[4] His organization's most notorious operation was the simultaneous Rome and Vienna airport attacks on 27 December 1985, when gunmen opened fire on the El Al ticket counters at both locations, killing eighteen people and wounding 120.

Patrick Seale, Abu Nidal's biographer, wrote of the attacks that their "random cruelty marked them as typical Abu Nidal operations".[5] Reports describing the purges implemented by Abu Nidal and close associates provided further evidence of his and his organization's nature.

Abu Nidal died of between one and four gunshot wounds in Baghdad in August 2002. Palestinian sources believe he was killed on the orders of Saddam Hussein, but the Iraqi government insisted he had committed suicide.[6] The Guardian wrote on the news of his death: "He was the patriot turned psychopath. He served only himself, only the warped personal drives that pushed him into hideous crime. He was the ultimate mercenary."[7]

Abu Nidal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

lol, so Saddam kills an infamous terrorist and that's the proof he was an accomplice to 9/11?

that's too stupid to be funny.

Saddam was hiding abu Nidal for years.
Next.
You're simply too stupid to get any of this.

And Abu Nidal was what part of 9/11?

"And Abu Nidal was what part of 9/11?"

W did not launch a war on the 9/11 terrorists.

He declared a WAR ON TERRORISM.

Abu Nidal was THE Terrorist of the 1970 - 1994 period.

Saddam was trying to get Abu Nidal to train a new generation of international terrorists.

When Nidal refused, pressure mounted on Saddam to get rid of anything that would implicate him in the US hunt for people to blame for 9/11.

Having it be discovered the Godfather of Terrorism was living five minutes (or whatever) from Saddam's palace would not look good for Saddam!

Wanting to avoid Iraq's being placed on "The Cowboy's" Terrorist Shit List, Saddam had gunmen put three bullets into Abu Nidal's brain.

And call it a suicide.

 

[NYcarbineer]

That's a concession Bush lied. Case closed.

Choke on this, bitch.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa'eda row

By Con Coughlin

12:01AM BST 25 Aug 2002


Abu Nidal, the Palestinian terrorist, was murdered on the orders of Saddam Hussein after refusing to train al-Qa'eda fighters based in Iraq, The Telegraph can reveal.

Despite claims by Iraqi officials that Abu Nidal committed suicide after being implicated in a plot to overthrow Saddam, Western diplomats now believe that he was killed for refusing to reactivate his international terrorist network.

According to reports received from Iraqi opposition groups, Abu Nidal had been in Baghdad for months as Saddam's personal guest, and was being treated for a mild form of skin cancer.

While in Baghdad, Abu Nidal, whose real name was Sabri al-Banna, came under pressure from Saddam to help train groups of al-Qa'eda fighters who moved to northern Iraq after fleeing Afghanistan. Saddam also wanted Abu Nidal to carry out attacks against the US and its allies.

When Abu Nidal refused, Saddam ordered his intelligence chiefs to assassinate him. He was shot dead last weekend when Iraqi security forces burst into his apartment in central Baghdad. The body was taken to the hospital where he had had cancer treatment.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa eda row - Telegraph

This may be the "smoking gun" we have overlooked about Iraq and ties to terrorism past and proposed by Saddam.

And who better to head that effort for Saddam but the recognized leader of International Islamic terrorism in the 1970's - 1990's, who just happened to be living in Iraq at the time, none other than...Abu Nidal?!

Abu Nidal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the Muslimgauze album, see Abu Nidal (album).
Abu Nidal
(أبو نضال)
Abu Nidal in an image released in 1976
Born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (صبري خليل البنا)
May 1937
Jaffa, Mandatory Palestine
Died 16 August 2002 (aged 65)
Baghdad, Iraq
Resting place
al-Karakh Islamic cemetery, Baghdad, in a grave marked "M7"
Nationality Palestinian
Alma mater Cairo University
Occupation
Militant Mercenary
Organization
Fatah – The Revolutionary Council
(فتح المجلس الثوري), more generally
known as the Abu Nidal Organization
Movement Palestinian rejectionist front

Abu Nidal (Arabic: أبو نضال meaning "father of [the] struggle"; May 1937 – 16 August 2002), born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (Arabic: صبري خليل البنا), was the founder of "Fatah – The Revolutionary Council" (Arabic: فتح المجلس الثوري), a militant Palestinian splinter group also known as the Abu Nidal Organization (ANO).[1]

At the height of his power in the 1970s and 1980s, Abu Nidal was widely regarded as the most ruthless of the Palestinian political leaders.[2] In a rare interview given in 1985, he told Der Spiegel: "I am the evil spirit which moves around only at night causing ... nightmares."[3]

Abu Nidal formed the ANO in 1974 after splitting from Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction within the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and taking up a rejectionist stance. Acting as a freelance mercenary, the United States Department of State believe he was responsible for attacks in at least twenty different countries, killing or injuring over 900 people.[4] His organization's most notorious operation was the simultaneous Rome and Vienna airport attacks on 27 December 1985, when gunmen opened fire on the El Al ticket counters at both locations, killing eighteen people and wounding 120.

Patrick Seale, Abu Nidal's biographer, wrote of the attacks that their "random cruelty marked them as typical Abu Nidal operations".[5] Reports describing the purges implemented by Abu Nidal and close associates provided further evidence of his and his organization's nature.

Abu Nidal died of between one and four gunshot wounds in Baghdad in August 2002. Palestinian sources believe he was killed on the orders of Saddam Hussein, but the Iraqi government insisted he had committed suicide.[6] The Guardian wrote on the news of his death: "He was the patriot turned psychopath. He served only himself, only the warped personal drives that pushed him into hideous crime. He was the ultimate mercenary."[7]

Abu Nidal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

lol, so Saddam kills an infamous terrorist and that's the proof he was an accomplice to 9/11?

that's too stupid to be funny.

Saddam was hiding abu Nidal for years.
Next.
You're simply too stupid to get any of this.

And Abu Nidal was what part of 9/11?

"And Abu Nidal was what part of 9/11?"

W did not launch a war on the 9/11 terrorists.

He declared a WAR ON TERRORISM.

Abu Nidal was THE Terrorist of the 1970 - 1994 period.

Saddam was trying to get Abu Nidal to train a new generation of international terrorists.

When Nidal refused, pressure mounted on Saddam to get rid of anything that would implicate him in the US hunt for people to blame for 9/11.

Having it be discovered the Godfather of Terrorism was living five minutes (or whatever) from Saddam's palace would not look good for Saddam!

Wanting to avoid Iraq's being placed on "The Cowboy's" Terrorist Shit List, Saddam had gunmen put three bullets into Abu Nidal's brain.

And call it a suicide.

You people are ridiculous. Abu Nidal was killed in 2002. We invaded Iraq in 2003.

 

[Mojo2]

LOL, I knew you weren't going to man up and admit the thread title is a lie. It's the nature of liars. You lie.

The thread title is true. The Bush administration led the American people to believe something that wasn't true. That is a lie.

As long as you can keep your own doctor we'll be fine.

That's a concession Bush lied. Case closed.

Choke on this, bitch.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa'eda row

By Con Coughlin

12:01AM BST 25 Aug 2002


Abu Nidal, the Palestinian terrorist, was murdered on the orders of Saddam Hussein after refusing to train al-Qa'eda fighters based in Iraq, The Telegraph can reveal.

Despite claims by Iraqi officials that Abu Nidal committed suicide after being implicated in a plot to overthrow Saddam, Western diplomats now believe that he was killed for refusing to reactivate his international terrorist network.

According to reports received from Iraqi opposition groups, Abu Nidal had been in Baghdad for months as Saddam's personal guest, and was being treated for a mild form of skin cancer.

While in Baghdad, Abu Nidal, whose real name was Sabri al-Banna, came under pressure from Saddam to help train groups of al-Qa'eda fighters who moved to northern Iraq after fleeing Afghanistan. Saddam also wanted Abu Nidal to carry out attacks against the US and its allies.

When Abu Nidal refused, Saddam ordered his intelligence chiefs to assassinate him. He was shot dead last weekend when Iraqi security forces burst into his apartment in central Baghdad. The body was taken to the hospital where he had had cancer treatment.

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa eda row - Telegraph

This may be the "smoking gun" we have overlooked about Iraq and ties to terrorism past and proposed by Saddam.

And who better to head that effort for Saddam but the recognized leader of International Islamic terrorism in the 1970's - 1990's, who just happened to be living in Iraq at the time, none other than...Abu Nidal?!

Abu Nidal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the Muslimgauze album, see Abu Nidal (album).
Abu Nidal
(أبو نضال)
Abu Nidal in an image released in 1976
Born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (صبري خليل البنا)
May 1937
Jaffa, Mandatory Palestine
Died 16 August 2002 (aged 65)
Baghdad, Iraq
Resting place
al-Karakh Islamic cemetery, Baghdad, in a grave marked "M7"
Nationality Palestinian
Alma mater Cairo University
Occupation
Militant Mercenary
Organization
Fatah – The Revolutionary Council
(فتح المجلس الثوري), more generally
known as the Abu Nidal Organization
Movement Palestinian rejectionist front

Abu Nidal (Arabic: أبو نضال meaning "father of [the] struggle"; May 1937 – 16 August 2002), born Sabri Khalil al-Banna (Arabic: صبري خليل البنا), was the founder of "Fatah – The Revolutionary Council" (Arabic: فتح المجلس الثوري), a militant Palestinian splinter group also known as the Abu Nidal Organization (ANO).[1]

At the height of his power in the 1970s and 1980s, Abu Nidal was widely regarded as the most ruthless of the Palestinian political leaders.[2] In a rare interview given in 1985, he told Der Spiegel: "I am the evil spirit which moves around only at night causing ... nightmares."[3]

Abu Nidal formed the ANO in 1974 after splitting from Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction within the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and taking up a rejectionist stance. Acting as a freelance mercenary, the United States Department of State believe he was responsible for attacks in at least twenty different countries, killing or injuring over 900 people.[4] His organization's most notorious operation was the simultaneous Rome and Vienna airport attacks on 27 December 1985, when gunmen opened fire on the El Al ticket counters at both locations, killing eighteen people and wounding 120.

Patrick Seale, Abu Nidal's biographer, wrote of the attacks that their "random cruelty marked them as typical Abu Nidal operations".[5] Reports describing the purges implemented by Abu Nidal and close associates provided further evidence of his and his organization's nature.

Abu Nidal died of between one and four gunshot wounds in Baghdad in August 2002. Palestinian sources believe he was killed on the orders of Saddam Hussein, but the Iraqi government insisted he had committed suicide.[6] The Guardian wrote on the news of his death: "He was the patriot turned psychopath. He served only himself, only the warped personal drives that pushed him into hideous crime. He was the ultimate mercenary."[7]

Abu Nidal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Old story that was attacked immediately by other media. It was based on a anonymous source and an alleged document. The telegraph admitted it could not verify the document as genuine. In addition it conflicted with accounts by both Kuwait and Egyptian intelligence reports. Not a shred of evidence of the stories veracity has ever been brought forward. Interestingly, the story came out during the same time frame as the stories about the hijackers being trained on an abandoned airliner at Baghdad airport and the report of Iraqi intelligence meeting with al Qaeda in Prague.

Are you sure you aren't overlapping that discounted story over this story of Saddam killing Abu Nidal to prevent his being used as circumstantial evidence implicating Saddam in the 9/11 attacks? Or as a center of terrorism or a haven for terrorism.