Why do people hate Liberals?

[Bonzi]

The big problem is they see the world as it should be, and, think they can force it.
You can't.
It's not a perfect world, and, like children, if you let them do anything they want, chaos and disaster ensue.

Like most things in life, it's always a happy medium.

But, we are in a divisive state of mind in this country. Maybe that is what we should really be concerned about.

 

[TheParser]

The one thing about this board that most baffles me is the incredible depth of hatred and contempt for liberals.



I don't get it. And I don't see anything the like the contempt expressed by liberals towards conservatives.

As a newcomer and a moderate, I most respectfully disagree with you.

I have noticed the following:

1. Many members, both so-called conservatives and so-called liberals, are very rude. (I, of course, never reply to them.)

2. Conservatives on this board, in my opinion, do NOT have any more hatred for liberals than liberals have hatred for conservatives.

3. One reason that some conservatives may find some liberals offputting is that some liberals are so cocksure of their righteousness. They often feel that they have the word on every topic and that anyone who disagrees with them is, well, a racist, a sexist, a homophobe, a xenophobe, etc.

4. Another reason, let's be frank, is that many liberals want to blame many of the nation's problems on Caucasian people who happen to be conservative. It is only natural that those members who are both Caucasian and conservative take umbrage at such a tactic. Many liberals refuse to even consider the possibility that maybe Caucasians are NOT the only ethnicity responsible for some of our problems (crime, immigration, etc.).

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If you visit other online politics forums, you will discover that they are usually heavily weighted in favor of liberals. It is often 95% anti-Trump. The other members do everything possible to drive the pro-Trump people away. Some forums are cozy little liberal clubs in which members spend their time slapping one another on the back for being fighters for social justice.

We should be grateful that US Message Board allows all points of view.

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As one of the few moderate members, I do not have any illusions about either liberals or conservatives. Both sides have good points and bad points.

 

[task0778]

The big problem is they see the world as it should be, and, think they can force it.
You can't.
It's not a perfect world, and, like children, if you let them do anything they want, chaos and disaster ensue.

Like most things in life, it's always a happy medium.

But, we are in a divisive state of mind in this country. Maybe that is what we should really be concerned about.

It isn't so much that we are a divided country in so many ways, we've pretty much been that way since the getgo. It seems to me we've got too many people at the extremes that are taking over the national discourse and not enough moderates trying to bring us together, at least enough to cooperate and compromise. There are too many people in positions of political power who are more concerned with their own power or that of their party relative to the rest of us. And we don't vote those people out of office, we keep sending them back to Washington, so the problem is US, to some extent. We need to be more knowledgeable and active in our politics, and maybe we're moving in that direction (I hope so).

 

[Statistikhengst]

The big problem is they see the world as it should be, and, think they can force it.
You can't.
It's not a perfect world, and, like children, if you let them do anything they want, chaos and disaster ensue.

Like most things in life, it's always a happy medium.

But, we are in a divisive state of mind in this country. Maybe that is what we should really be concerned about.

It isn't so much that we are a divided country in so many ways, we've pretty much been that way since the getgo. It seems to me we've got too many people at the extremes that are taking over the national discourse and not enough moderates trying to bring us together, at least enough to cooperate and compromise. There are too many people in positions of political power who are more concerned with their own power or that of their party relative to the rest of us. And we don't vote those people out of office, we keep sending them back to Washington, so the problem is US, to some extent. We need to be more knowledgeable and active in our politics, and maybe we're moving in that direction (I hope so).

YEPP

 

[Desperado]

Because Liberals are socialists and socialists are communist.
I was taught in school that the only good communist was a dead communist

 

[Faun]

Why do people hate Liberals?

They hate our freedoms.

 

[ChrisL]

Because they are pompous assholes.

 

[peach174]

Because they stand up for lawlessness, violence and will not tolerate any other political view points.

 

[midcan5]

The answer is simple and clear, it is necessary for some for without hate, a powerful universal emotion, they cease to be. A hard question, maybe harder than hating liberals is, why does a mass shooter kill innocent people? Hating liberals is easy to understand, it is an emotion based belief, taught by ideologues for many years now. Consider in the fifties liberal was praised and everyone was liberal. Even republicans had liberals. What changed was agitprop that still exists in right wing media. The memes are simple we all have heard them too often many are above in this thread.

But why kill innocents, since some profess to know why liberals are hated, let's see if they can figure out the mass shooter. Has their training extended to that one must wonder? Liberals are easy, it's Pavlovian, but mass shooters?


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Why do people hate Liberals?

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"The remarkable thing is that we really love our neighbors as ourselves: we do unto others as we do unto ourselves. We hate others when we hate ourselves. We are tolerant of others when we tolerate ourselves. We forgive others when we forgive ourselves." Eric Hoffer
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[toobfreak]

Why do people hate Liberals?

Because liberals hate everyone else. It's normal to return hate for hate.

 

[ChrisL]

I hate them because of their overall attitudes in general, their constant whining about OUR rights, their wanting to give up their rights to the government (well go ahead - leave the rest of us alone), their lies and mistruths, their shady behaviors, etc. Lots of reasons. Just don't like them or their views in most instances, although I've met a few who were okay. I prefer people who are more in the middle of the road than from either goofy side though.

 

[midcan5]

This thread is so long, I've posted in it several times but what the heck a few more thoughts. While I call myself liberal progressive, I am in life more conservative in the old fashion sense than today's' conservatives. Conservatives today are all about tribalism and defining the enemy, add in resentment and you pretty much have covered them. I also find in close friends who claim this new conservative mantle an unhappiness and sense of loss. It is reactive rather than positive. You must wonder if they didn't have some one to blame who would they be?

"All conservatism begins with loss," Andrew Sullivan writes. "If we never knew loss, we would never feel the need to conserve." That’s why the first and still canonical conservative text is Edmund Burke’s “Reflections on the Revolution in France," a lamentation on the uprooting of that country’s monarchical order. And that’s why America, as an experiment in modernity, hasn’t had many genuine conservatives in its history." 'A Guest of My Time' 'The Kennan Diaries,' by George F. Kennan

"Republicans, of course, cloak themselves in the rhetoric of freedom and necessity and express concern about future generations. That the beast they would slay ultimately translates to the lives of American citizens, including some of the most vulnerable who depend on government social programs to which they enjoy legal, political, and moral entitlement, is irrelevant. Hatred of government is a disease with them. They loathe common purpose and project, especially when channeled through the state. Their hatred of government, it seems to me, is tantamount to hatred of country." Steven Johnston Why Do Republicans Hate America? ~ The Contemporary Condition

"The trick never ages; the illusion never wears off. Vote to stop abortion; receive a rollback in capital gains taxes. Vote to make our country strong again; receive deindustrialization. Vote to screw those politically correct college professors; receive electricity deregulation. Vote to get government off our backs; receive conglomeration and monopoly everywhere from media to meatpacking. Vote to stand tall against terrorists; receive Social Security privatization. Vote to strike a blow against elitism; receive a social order in which wealth is more concentrated than ever before in our lifetimes, in which workers have been stripped of power and CEOs are rewarded in a manner beyond imagining." Thomas Frank, What's the Matter With Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America'

And this is their hero today? Huh!

"What is patriotism? Let us begin with what patriotism is not. It is not patriotic to dodge the draft and to mock war heroes and their families. It is not patriotic to discriminate against active-duty members of the armed forces in one's companies, or to campaign to keep disabled veterans away from one's property. It is not patriotic to compare one's search for sexual partners in New York with the military service in Vietnam that one has dodged. It is not patriotic to avoid paying taxes, especially when American working families do pay. It is not patriotic to ask those working, taxpaying American families to finance one's own presidential campaign, and then to spend their contributions in one's own companies. It is not patriotic to admire foreign dictators. It is not patriotic to cultivate a relationship with Muammar Gaddafi; or to say that Bashar al-Assad and Vladimir Putin are superior leaders. It is not patriotic to call upon Russia to intervene in an American presidential election. It is not patriotic to cite Russian propaganda at rallies." Timothy Snyder On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century by Timothy Snyder


"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by nursing a fanatical grievance." Eric Hoffer

 

[Desperado]

One reason is their move to give all prisoners the right to vote.

 

[Cellblock2429]

This thread is so long, I've posted in it several times but what the heck a few more thoughts. While I call myself liberal progressive, I am in life more conservative in the old fashion sense than today's' conservatives. Conservatives today are all about tribalism and defining the enemy, add in resentment and you pretty much have covered them. I also find in close friends who claim this new conservative mantle an unhappiness and sense of loss. It is reactive rather than positive. You must wonder if they didn't have some one to blame who would they be?

"All conservatism begins with loss," Andrew Sullivan writes. "If we never knew loss, we would never feel the need to conserve." That’s why the first and still canonical conservative text is Edmund Burke’s “Reflections on the Revolution in France," a lamentation on the uprooting of that country’s monarchical order. And that’s why America, as an experiment in modernity, hasn’t had many genuine conservatives in its history." 'A Guest of My Time' 'The Kennan Diaries,' by George F. Kennan

"Republicans, of course, cloak themselves in the rhetoric of freedom and necessity and express concern about future generations. That the beast they would slay ultimately translates to the lives of American citizens, including some of the most vulnerable who depend on government social programs to which they enjoy legal, political, and moral entitlement, is irrelevant. Hatred of government is a disease with them. They loathe common purpose and project, especially when channeled through the state. Their hatred of government, it seems to me, is tantamount to hatred of country." Steven Johnston Why Do Republicans Hate America? ~ The Contemporary Condition

"The trick never ages; the illusion never wears off. Vote to stop abortion; receive a rollback in capital gains taxes. Vote to make our country strong again; receive deindustrialization. Vote to screw those politically correct college professors; receive electricity deregulation. Vote to get government off our backs; receive conglomeration and monopoly everywhere from media to meatpacking. Vote to stand tall against terrorists; receive Social Security privatization. Vote to strike a blow against elitism; receive a social order in which wealth is more concentrated than ever before in our lifetimes, in which workers have been stripped of power and CEOs are rewarded in a manner beyond imagining." Thomas Frank, What's the Matter With Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America'

And this is their hero today? Huh!

"What is patriotism? Let us begin with what patriotism is not. It is not patriotic to dodge the draft and to mock war heroes and their families. It is not patriotic to discriminate against active-duty members of the armed forces in one's companies, or to campaign to keep disabled veterans away from one's property. It is not patriotic to compare one's search for sexual partners in New York with the military service in Vietnam that one has dodged. It is not patriotic to avoid paying taxes, especially when American working families do pay. It is not patriotic to ask those working, taxpaying American families to finance one's own presidential campaign, and then to spend their contributions in one's own companies. It is not patriotic to admire foreign dictators. It is not patriotic to cultivate a relationship with Muammar Gaddafi; or to say that Bashar al-Assad and Vladimir Putin are superior leaders. It is not patriotic to call upon Russia to intervene in an American presidential election. It is not patriotic to cite Russian propaganda at rallies." Timothy Snyder On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century by Timothy Snyder


"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by nursing a fanatical grievance." Eric Hoffer

/——/ More liberal dribble

 

[Votto]

This thread is so long, I've posted in it several times but what the heck a few more thoughts. While I call myself liberal progressive, I am in life more conservative in the old fashion sense than today's' conservatives. Conservatives today are all about tribalism and defining the enemy, add in resentment and you pretty much have covered them. I also find in close friends who claim this new conservative mantle an unhappiness and sense of loss. It is reactive rather than positive. You must wonder if they didn't have some one to blame who would they be?

"All conservatism begins with loss," Andrew Sullivan writes. "If we never knew loss, we would never feel the need to conserve." That’s why the first and still canonical conservative text is Edmund Burke’s “Reflections on the Revolution in France," a lamentation on the uprooting of that country’s monarchical order. And that’s why America, as an experiment in modernity, hasn’t had many genuine conservatives in its history." 'A Guest of My Time' 'The Kennan Diaries,' by George F. Kennan

"Republicans, of course, cloak themselves in the rhetoric of freedom and necessity and express concern about future generations. That the beast they would slay ultimately translates to the lives of American citizens, including some of the most vulnerable who depend on government social programs to which they enjoy legal, political, and moral entitlement, is irrelevant. Hatred of government is a disease with them. They loathe common purpose and project, especially when channeled through the state. Their hatred of government, it seems to me, is tantamount to hatred of country." Steven Johnston Why Do Republicans Hate America? ~ The Contemporary Condition

"The trick never ages; the illusion never wears off. Vote to stop abortion; receive a rollback in capital gains taxes. Vote to make our country strong again; receive deindustrialization. Vote to screw those politically correct college professors; receive electricity deregulation. Vote to get government off our backs; receive conglomeration and monopoly everywhere from media to meatpacking. Vote to stand tall against terrorists; receive Social Security privatization. Vote to strike a blow against elitism; receive a social order in which wealth is more concentrated than ever before in our lifetimes, in which workers have been stripped of power and CEOs are rewarded in a manner beyond imagining." Thomas Frank, What's the Matter With Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America'

And this is their hero today? Huh!

"What is patriotism? Let us begin with what patriotism is not. It is not patriotic to dodge the draft and to mock war heroes and their families. It is not patriotic to discriminate against active-duty members of the armed forces in one's companies, or to campaign to keep disabled veterans away from one's property. It is not patriotic to compare one's search for sexual partners in New York with the military service in Vietnam that one has dodged. It is not patriotic to avoid paying taxes, especially when American working families do pay. It is not patriotic to ask those working, taxpaying American families to finance one's own presidential campaign, and then to spend their contributions in one's own companies. It is not patriotic to admire foreign dictators. It is not patriotic to cultivate a relationship with Muammar Gaddafi; or to say that Bashar al-Assad and Vladimir Putin are superior leaders. It is not patriotic to call upon Russia to intervene in an American presidential election. It is not patriotic to cite Russian propaganda at rallies." Timothy Snyder On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century by Timothy Snyder


"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by nursing a fanatical grievance." Eric Hoffer

So you become conservative once you experience loss?

Well I would think that you would have become an ultra conservative after the 2016 elections.

 

[Pete7469]

One reason is their move to give all prisoners the right to vote.

More recently is their petulance and vindictive persecution of people who oppose their global collectivist "leaders". Their SJW assholes literally attacking people for wearing hats they don't like, their embrace of insane ideas like Occasional Cortex's "new green deal" and their refusal to accept the fact that America is prospering for the first time since 2006 because Trump wiped out almost every malignant action of their moonbat messiah.

I am delighted that they're obviously more miserable than ever. I hope Trump wins solidly in 2020, sweeps the House, picks up some senate seats. Maybe then they will finally do what they promised and move to some socialist hell hole like Venezuela, or just swim to Cuba. They're a cancer that isn't aborting itself fast enough.


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[Votto]

One reason is their move to give all prisoners the right to vote.

More recently is their petulance and vindictive persecution of people who oppose their global collectivist "leaders". Their SJW assholes literally attacking people for wearing hats they don't like, their embrace of insane ideas like Occasional Cortex's "new green deal" and their refusal to accept the fact that America is prospering for the first time since 2006 because Trump wiped out almost every malignant action of their moonbat messiah.

I am delighted that they're obviously more miserable than ever. I hope Trump wins solidly in 2020, sweeps the House, picks up some senate seats. Maybe then they will finally do what they promised and move to some socialist hell hole like Venezuela, or just swim to Cuba. They're a cancer that isn't aborting itself fast enough.


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If it were not for the indoctrination in public schools, they would abort themselves out of existence.

Otherwise, their position on abortion would have to change.

 

[Dale Smith]

This thread is so long, I've posted in it several times but what the heck a few more thoughts. While I call myself liberal progressive, I am in life more conservative in the old fashion sense than today's' conservatives. Conservatives today are all about tribalism and defining the enemy, add in resentment and you pretty much have covered them. I also find in close friends who claim this new conservative mantle an unhappiness and sense of loss. It is reactive rather than positive. You must wonder if they didn't have some one to blame who would they be?

"All conservatism begins with loss," Andrew Sullivan writes. "If we never knew loss, we would never feel the need to conserve." That’s why the first and still canonical conservative text is Edmund Burke’s “Reflections on the Revolution in France," a lamentation on the uprooting of that country’s monarchical order. And that’s why America, as an experiment in modernity, hasn’t had many genuine conservatives in its history." 'A Guest of My Time' 'The Kennan Diaries,' by George F. Kennan

"Republicans, of course, cloak themselves in the rhetoric of freedom and necessity and express concern about future generations. That the beast they would slay ultimately translates to the lives of American citizens, including some of the most vulnerable who depend on government social programs to which they enjoy legal, political, and moral entitlement, is irrelevant. Hatred of government is a disease with them. They loathe common purpose and project, especially when channeled through the state. Their hatred of government, it seems to me, is tantamount to hatred of country." Steven Johnston Why Do Republicans Hate America? ~ The Contemporary Condition

"The trick never ages; the illusion never wears off. Vote to stop abortion; receive a rollback in capital gains taxes. Vote to make our country strong again; receive deindustrialization. Vote to screw those politically correct college professors; receive electricity deregulation. Vote to get government off our backs; receive conglomeration and monopoly everywhere from media to meatpacking. Vote to stand tall against terrorists; receive Social Security privatization. Vote to strike a blow against elitism; receive a social order in which wealth is more concentrated than ever before in our lifetimes, in which workers have been stripped of power and CEOs are rewarded in a manner beyond imagining." Thomas Frank, What's the Matter With Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America'

And this is their hero today? Huh!

"What is patriotism? Let us begin with what patriotism is not. It is not patriotic to dodge the draft and to mock war heroes and their families. It is not patriotic to discriminate against active-duty members of the armed forces in one's companies, or to campaign to keep disabled veterans away from one's property. It is not patriotic to compare one's search for sexual partners in New York with the military service in Vietnam that one has dodged. It is not patriotic to avoid paying taxes, especially when American working families do pay. It is not patriotic to ask those working, taxpaying American families to finance one's own presidential campaign, and then to spend their contributions in one's own companies. It is not patriotic to admire foreign dictators. It is not patriotic to cultivate a relationship with Muammar Gaddafi; or to say that Bashar al-Assad and Vladimir Putin are superior leaders. It is not patriotic to call upon Russia to intervene in an American presidential election. It is not patriotic to cite Russian propaganda at rallies." Timothy Snyder On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century by Timothy Snyder


"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by nursing a fanatical grievance." Eric Hoffer

 

[task0778]

This thread is so long, I've posted in it several times but what the heck a few more thoughts. While I call myself liberal progressive, I am in life more conservative in the old fashion sense than today's' conservatives. Conservatives today are all about tribalism and defining the enemy, add in resentment and you pretty much have covered them. I also find in close friends who claim this new conservative mantle an unhappiness and sense of loss. It is reactive rather than positive. You must wonder if they didn't have some one to blame who would they be?

"All conservatism begins with loss," Andrew Sullivan writes. "If we never knew loss, we would never feel the need to conserve." That’s why the first and still canonical conservative text is Edmund Burke’s “Reflections on the Revolution in France," a lamentation on the uprooting of that country’s monarchical order. And that’s why America, as an experiment in modernity, hasn’t had many genuine conservatives in its history." 'A Guest of My Time' 'The Kennan Diaries,' by George F. Kennan

"Republicans, of course, cloak themselves in the rhetoric of freedom and necessity and express concern about future generations. That the beast they would slay ultimately translates to the lives of American citizens, including some of the most vulnerable who depend on government social programs to which they enjoy legal, political, and moral entitlement, is irrelevant. Hatred of government is a disease with them. They loathe common purpose and project, especially when channeled through the state. Their hatred of government, it seems to me, is tantamount to hatred of country." Steven Johnston Why Do Republicans Hate America? ~ The Contemporary Condition

"The trick never ages; the illusion never wears off. Vote to stop abortion; receive a rollback in capital gains taxes. Vote to make our country strong again; receive deindustrialization. Vote to screw those politically correct college professors; receive electricity deregulation. Vote to get government off our backs; receive conglomeration and monopoly everywhere from media to meatpacking. Vote to stand tall against terrorists; receive Social Security privatization. Vote to strike a blow against elitism; receive a social order in which wealth is more concentrated than ever before in our lifetimes, in which workers have been stripped of power and CEOs are rewarded in a manner beyond imagining." Thomas Frank, What's the Matter With Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America'

And this is their hero today? Huh!

"What is patriotism? Let us begin with what patriotism is not. It is not patriotic to dodge the draft and to mock war heroes and their families. It is not patriotic to discriminate against active-duty members of the armed forces in one's companies, or to campaign to keep disabled veterans away from one's property. It is not patriotic to compare one's search for sexual partners in New York with the military service in Vietnam that one has dodged. It is not patriotic to avoid paying taxes, especially when American working families do pay. It is not patriotic to ask those working, taxpaying American families to finance one's own presidential campaign, and then to spend their contributions in one's own companies. It is not patriotic to admire foreign dictators. It is not patriotic to cultivate a relationship with Muammar Gaddafi; or to say that Bashar al-Assad and Vladimir Putin are superior leaders. It is not patriotic to call upon Russia to intervene in an American presidential election. It is not patriotic to cite Russian propaganda at rallies." Timothy Snyder On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century by Timothy Snyder


"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by nursing a fanatical grievance." Eric Hoffer

Nice anti-Trump diatribe, people were saying much the same about Obama's patriotism back then. You might've gone off-track here a little bit, so I will too. Tell me what's unpatriotic about opposing open borders and wanting a wall that isn't all that expensive that could assist in stemming the flow of illegal people, drugs, contraband, and human trafficking. Seems to me the money would be better spent on a wall than on a ridiculous high-speed rail system that will never be profitable and will never move the needle one little bit when it comes to Climate Change.

"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by nursing a fanatical grievance." Eric Hoffer

Boy howdy, do I see a lot more passionate hatred against Trump and conservatives than the other way around.

 

[sealybobo]

I hate them because of their overall attitudes in general, their constant whining about OUR rights, their wanting to give up their rights to the government (well go ahead - leave the rest of us alone), their lies and mistruths, their shady behaviors, etc. Lots of reasons. Just don't like them or their views in most instances, although I've met a few who were okay. I prefer people who are more in the middle of the road than from either goofy side though.

Where is this woman been? She's clearly in her 40's now right?