Why Do You Love The Communists?

[mudwhistle]

The greatest minds mankind ever produced spent centuries inventing and perfecting political thought, it's all right there at the click of a mouse, and these lazy fucks act like there are only two political categories.

The problem is you don't have the common-sense to weed out the bovine-scatology. It comes from years of hating America and all it stands for.

The problem isn't with me, it's with dumb asses who are so politically fucked up they can't distinguish between their fellow Americans and Joseph Stalin.

I've noticed that America's worst critics are either foreigners or liberals that have been taught by them.

What the hell are you talking about? If criticism means hatred then conservatives hate America worst of all.

You're assuming you represent American values.

You don't.

 

[occupied]

The greatest minds mankind ever produced spent centuries inventing and perfecting political thought, it's all right there at the click of a mouse, and these lazy fucks act like there are only two political categories.

The problem is you don't have the common-sense to weed out the bovine-scatology. It comes from years of hating America and all it stands for.

The problem isn't with me, it's with dumb asses who are so politically fucked up they can't distinguish between their fellow Americans and Joseph Stalin.

I've noticed that America's worst critics are either foreigners or liberals that have been taught by them.

What the hell are you talking about? If criticism means hatred then conservatives hate America worst of all.

You're assuming you represent American values.

You don't.

Right back atcha troll.

 

[Camp]

Didn't GWB look lovingly into Putin's eyes and saw his soul?

and obama got bitch slapped by it when he annexed Crimea, if Bush Jr was around he would have pulled out like he did in Georgia.

He took Abkhazia and South Ossetia with him when he pulled out. Bush did nothing to stop him.

Usually wars begin over long periods of angry exchanges....not at the drop of a hat. I don't think starting a war over one act of Communist aggression just to prove we're bad-asses is a fair exchange.

Agreed, I mentioned Ahkhazia and S.Ossetia to counter Bears claim that Bush forced Putin to pull out of Georgia. Putin pulled out of Georgia but he took those two places with him when he left. They are still under Russian control. Bush did nothing to counter Putin's goal to annex S. Ossetia and Ahkhazia.

 

[JakeStarkey]

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Jonah Goldberg; "communists and Nazis tended to vote together in the Reichstag"

Jonah Goldberg: "In Italy they were called Fascists; in Germany they were called Nazis; in America they were called progressives" (page 81)

You have given us the assertion, give us the number of Nazis and Communists voting together in the Reichstag and on what subjects. This will be good.

You made this assertion several days ago. Please support it, or please admit you are wrong.

Of course he is correct: every totalitarian plan has the same goal.
And they all have simpletons who deny it.
Raise your paw.

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’"
Goldberg

So you really think the Nazis and the Communists voted together in the Reichstag?

 

[occupied]

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Jonah Goldberg; "communists and Nazis tended to vote together in the Reichstag"

Jonah Goldberg: "In Italy they were called Fascists; in Germany they were called Nazis; in America they were called progressives" (page 81)

You have given us the assertion, give us the number of Nazis and Communists voting together in the Reichstag and on what subjects. This will be good.

You made this assertion several days ago. Please support it, or please admit you are wrong.

Of course he is correct: every totalitarian plan has the same goal.
And they all have simpletons who deny it.
Raise your paw.

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’"
Goldberg

So you really think the Nazis and the Communists voted together in the Reichstag?

They don't think, if they did they would know that conservatism is as good a path to authoritarianism as any dogmatic political belief and it is what entrenches authoritarianism in any political system and resists political change for the better.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

conservatism is as good a path to authoritarianism as any dogmatic political belief

of course that's 100% stupid and liberal since conservatism is opposed to central govt whose machinery would be necessary to create and enable authoritarian govt.

A child would know this just not an adult liberal.[/QUOTE]

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

why do liberals love communism? Why did they spy for Hitler and Stalin? They believe in magical big liberal govt because they lack the IQ to understand how freedom works.

 

[JakeStarkey]

conservatism is as good a path to authoritarianism as any dogmatic political belief

of course that's 100% stupid and liberal since conservatism is opposed to central govt whose machinery would be necessary to create and enable authoritarian govt.

A child would know this just not an adult liberal.

Too stupid! Conservative loves big government to block Marriage Equality, Integration, Pro Choice, Women's Empowerment, and so forth and so on.

 

[PoliticalChic]

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Jonah Goldberg; "communists and Nazis tended to vote together in the Reichstag"

Jonah Goldberg: "In Italy they were called Fascists; in Germany they were called Nazis; in America they were called progressives" (page 81)

You have given us the assertion, give us the number of Nazis and Communists voting together in the Reichstag and on what subjects. This will be good.

You made this assertion several days ago. Please support it, or please admit you are wrong.

Of course he is correct: every totalitarian plan has the same goal.
And they all have simpletons who deny it.
Raise your paw.

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’"
Goldberg

So you really think the Nazis and the Communists voted together in the Reichstag?

Is that what you imagine the quote you provided says?

No better proof is required as to how stupid you are.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Jonah Goldberg; "communists and Nazis tended to vote together in the Reichstag"

Jonah Goldberg: "In Italy they were called Fascists; in Germany they were called Nazis; in America they were called progressives" (page 81)

You have given us the assertion, give us the number of Nazis and Communists voting together in the Reichstag and on what subjects. This will be good.

You made this assertion several days ago. Please support it, or please admit you are wrong.

Of course he is correct: every totalitarian plan has the same goal.
And they all have simpletons who deny it.
Raise your paw.

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’"
Goldberg

So you really think the Nazis and the Communists voted together in the Reichstag?

They don't think, if they did they would know that conservatism is as good a path to authoritarianism as any dogmatic political belief and it is what entrenches authoritarianism in any political system and resists political change for the better.

And so the idiot precinct checks in.


Conservatism is based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

Only in the most corrupted and infinitesimally tiny mind could this be viewed
"as good a path to authoritarianism."


Although the conclusion is hardly in doubt, let's give you a little IQ test: can you count to potato?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The vain Lenin agonized over his hair loss.

The vain Reagan dyed his hair.

By the logic of PC, that makes Reagan a Communist.

Well, if there was any potential relevant correlation, that might be a good point.

Sadly, there's no potential relevant correlation, beyond that which exists in the rich furrows of your imagination Gilligan.

But you're invited to show whatever relevant correlation you feel exists between vanity, hair and communism.

(And I wantcha to know, that I am pullin' for ya lil' buddy.)

 

[PoliticalChic]

The vain Lenin agonized over his hair loss.

The vain Reagan dyed his hair.

By the logic of PC, that makes Reagan a Communist.

Well, if there was any potential relevant correlation, that might be a good point.

Sadly, there's no potential relevant correlation, beyond that which exists in the rich furrows of your imagination Gilligan.

But you're invited to show whatever relevant correlation you feel exists between vanity, hair and communism.

(And I wantcha to know, that I am pullin' for ya lil' buddy.)

There is a point...but it is under his hat.

The burning question.....can it write under water.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The moment PC defended the posting of "Jonah Goldberg; "communists and Nazis tended to vote together in the Reichstag'" is the moment her OP entered bizarro world.

 

[JakeStarkey]

PC does not believe in her own definition of Conservatism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The moment PC defended the posting of "Jonah Goldberg; "communists and Nazis tended to vote together in the Reichstag'" is the moment her OP entered bizarro world.

I never said that.....but, you are known as a liar, aren't you, "fakey"?

 

[Camp]

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The moment PC defended the posting of "Jonah Goldberg; "communists and Nazis tended to vote together in the Reichstag'" is the moment her OP entered bizarro world.

I never said that.....but, you are known as a liar, aren't you, "fakey"?

So now you are saying you did not support that statement? That's not the case.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx? Witness is dismissed.

You have not made the connection they were "scions", PC, that's the point. Earlier you were supporting that the commines and nazis were voting together in the Reichstag. That is a simple example of why you have little to no support for your OPs.

 

[Camp]

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

Common denominators are common in philosophy and ideologies. Why not compare political ideologies to Greek and Roman histories? Socialism has been present since people lived communally in caves. Karl Marx didn't invent it. The period of history you have chosen to examine was a time when the world was searching for the best workable forms of governing. After WWI the search became very intense. Actually, before it ended. The Russian revolution, Teddy Roosevelt and the dismantling of monopolies, the fascist in Italy, and eventually FDR's New Deal idea of governments role. All were borrowing and selecting ideas from each other. They did it in the open. It wasn't some kind of secretive conspiracy the way you present it. Everyone knew it was an age of experimenting with ideas about how governments should or could work.