Why Do You Love The Communists?

[PoliticalChic]

The moment PC defended the posting of "Jonah Goldberg; "communists and Nazis tended to vote together in the Reichstag'" is the moment her OP entered bizarro world.

I never said that.....but, you are known as a liar, aren't you, "fakey"?

So now you are saying you did not support that statement? That's not the case.

No, you lying piece of sewage.....I never said such a thing nor ever mentioned the Reichstag.


This was your claim...

"The moment PC defended the posting of "Jonah Goldberg; "communists and Nazis tended to vote together in the Reichstag'" is the moment her OP entered bizarro world."


Now you are forced to run with your tail between your legs.


My quote was:

"Of course he is correct: every totalitarian plan has the same goal."

I stated exactly what I was supporting.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

Common denominators are common in philosophy and ideologies. Why not compare political ideologies to Greek and Roman histories? Socialism has been present since people lived communally in caves. Karl Marx didn't invent it. The period of history you have chosen to examine was a time when the world was searching for the best workable forms of governing. After WWI the search became very intense. Actually, before it ended. The Russian revolution, Teddy Roosevelt and the dismantling of monopolies, the fascist in Italy, and eventually FDR's New Deal idea of governments role. All were borrowing and selecting ideas from each other. They did it in the open. It wasn't some kind of secretive conspiracy the way you present it. Everyone knew it was an age of experimenting with ideas about how governments should or could work.

You've already been put in your place.
You can stop digging.

Tap-dance all you like, the final conclusion is that


Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


Are all....each and every one....based on the collective and all-powerful government, and anti-American at the core

American values are the predominance of the individual, and limited constitutional government.

 

[Ava]

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

Common denominators are common in philosophy and ideologies. Why not compare political ideologies to Greek and Roman histories? Socialism has been present since people lived communally in caves. Karl Marx didn't invent it. The period of history you have chosen to examine was a time when the world was searching for the best workable forms of governing. After WWI the search became very intense. Actually, before it ended. The Russian revolution, Teddy Roosevelt and the dismantling of monopolies, the fascist in Italy, and eventually FDR's New Deal idea of governments role. All were borrowing and selecting ideas from each other. They did it in the open. It wasn't some kind of secretive conspiracy the way you present it. Everyone knew it was an age of experimenting with ideas about how governments should or could work.

You've already been put in your place.
You can stop digging.

Tap-dance all you like, the final conclusion is that


Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


Are all....each and every one....based on the collective and all-powerful government, and anti-American at the core

American values are the predominance of the individual, and limited constitutional government.

Jakey, now surely you cannot argue, with any substance, PC's perfectly legitimate post.....or can you??

 

[JakeStarkey]

No, you lying piece of sewage.....I never said such a thing nor ever mentioned the Reichstag.

This was your claim..."The moment PC defended the posting of "Jonah Goldberg; "communists and Nazis tended to vote together in the Reichstag'" is the moment her OP entered bizarro world."

Now you are forced to run with your tail between your legs. My quote was:

"Of course he is correct: every totalitarian plan has the same goal."

I stated exactly what I was supporting.

Deflection and personal attack only reveals your poor character, PC. I said you supported Goldberg's statement. You did. Now you don't? Then say it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

Common denominators are common in philosophy and ideologies. Why not compare political ideologies to Greek and Roman histories? Socialism has been present since people lived communally in caves. Karl Marx didn't invent it. The period of history you have chosen to examine was a time when the world was searching for the best workable forms of governing. After WWI the search became very intense. Actually, before it ended. The Russian revolution, Teddy Roosevelt and the dismantling of monopolies, the fascist in Italy, and eventually FDR's New Deal idea of governments role. All were borrowing and selecting ideas from each other. They did it in the open. It wasn't some kind of secretive conspiracy the way you present it. Everyone knew it was an age of experimenting with ideas about how governments should or could work.

You've already been put in your place.
You can stop digging.

Tap-dance all you like, the final conclusion is that


Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


Are all....each and every one....based on the collective and all-powerful government, and anti-American at the core

American values are the predominance of the individual, and limited constitutional government.

Jakey, now surely you cannot argue, with any substance, PC's perfectly legitimate post.....or can you??

If you agree with her that totalitarianism cannot come from the right, of course I can argue with that, AA. National Socialism is not a step sister to communism. It is a right wing totalitarian, nationalist ideology that attacks the liberal principles of free speech, freedom of religion, etc. that gird our democratic republic.

What I won't do is accept false definitions from PC.

 

[Ava]

No, you lying piece of sewage.....I never said such a thing nor ever mentioned the Reichstag.

This was your claim..."The moment PC defended the posting of "Jonah Goldberg; "communists and Nazis tended to vote together in the Reichstag'" is the moment her OP entered bizarro world."

Now you are forced to run with your tail between your legs. My quote was:

"Of course he is correct: every totalitarian plan has the same goal."

I stated exactly what I was supporting.

Deflection and personal attack only reveals your poor character, PC. I said you supported Goldberg's statement. You did. Now you don't? Then say it.

Now Jakey, me luv, when I have read posts by you using deflection and personal attacks, I never once, attributed them to a lack of character within you. I know your character and it is sweet, and it is human.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No, you lying piece of sewage.....I never said such a thing nor ever mentioned the Reichstag.

This was your claim..."The moment PC defended the posting of "Jonah Goldberg; "communists and Nazis tended to vote together in the Reichstag'" is the moment her OP entered bizarro world."

Now you are forced to run with your tail between your legs. My quote was:

"Of course he is correct: every totalitarian plan has the same goal."

I stated exactly what I was supporting.

Deflection and personal attack only reveals your poor character, PC. I said you supported Goldberg's statement. You did. Now you don't? Then say it.

Ooooo....look how quickly you ran off when I called you on your lies, you low-life gutter scum.


So you admit you lied when you wrote ."The moment PC defended the posting of "Jonah Goldberg; "communists and Nazis tended to vote together in the Reichstag'" is the moment her OP entered bizarro world."


Glad to do it....and, although there seems to be no shortage of posts calling you a liar.....I look forward to doing so early and often.

 

[Ava]

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

Common denominators are common in philosophy and ideologies. Why not compare political ideologies to Greek and Roman histories? Socialism has been present since people lived communally in caves. Karl Marx didn't invent it. The period of history you have chosen to examine was a time when the world was searching for the best workable forms of governing. After WWI the search became very intense. Actually, before it ended. The Russian revolution, Teddy Roosevelt and the dismantling of monopolies, the fascist in Italy, and eventually FDR's New Deal idea of governments role. All were borrowing and selecting ideas from each other. They did it in the open. It wasn't some kind of secretive conspiracy the way you present it. Everyone knew it was an age of experimenting with ideas about how governments should or could work.

You've already been put in your place.
You can stop digging.

Tap-dance all you like, the final conclusion is that


Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


Are all....each and every one....based on the collective and all-powerful government, and anti-American at the core

American values are the predominance of the individual, and limited constitutional government.

Jakey, now surely you cannot argue, with any substance, PC's perfectly legitimate post.....or can you??

If you agree with her that totalitarianism cannot come from the right, of course I can argue with that, AA. National Socialism is not a step sister to communism. It is a right wing totalitarian, nationalist ideology that attacks the liberal principles of free speech, freedom of religion, etc. that gird our democratic republic.

What I won't do is accept false definitions from PC.

So Jakey, of all the GOP announced and unannounced candidates for `16, whom do you favor as of this post in time?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

Common denominators are common in philosophy and ideologies. Why not compare political ideologies to Greek and Roman histories? Socialism has been present since people lived communally in caves. Karl Marx didn't invent it. The period of history you have chosen to examine was a time when the world was searching for the best workable forms of governing. After WWI the search became very intense. Actually, before it ended. The Russian revolution, Teddy Roosevelt and the dismantling of monopolies, the fascist in Italy, and eventually FDR's New Deal idea of governments role. All were borrowing and selecting ideas from each other. They did it in the open. It wasn't some kind of secretive conspiracy the way you present it. Everyone knew it was an age of experimenting with ideas about how governments should or could work.

You've already been put in your place.
You can stop digging.

Tap-dance all you like, the final conclusion is that


Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


Are all....each and every one....based on the collective and all-powerful government, and anti-American at the core

American values are the predominance of the individual, and limited constitutional government.

Jakey, now surely you cannot argue, with any substance, PC's perfectly legitimate post.....or can you??

If you agree with her that totalitarianism cannot come from the right, of course I can argue with that, AA. National Socialism is not a step sister to communism. It is a right wing totalitarian, nationalist ideology that attacks the liberal principles of free speech, freedom of religion, etc. that gird our democratic republic.

What I won't do is accept false definitions from PC.

"National Socialism is not a step sister to communism."

Watch me smash this custard pie right in your lying kisser.


1. "Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.

a. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981

b. "Before Marx, no other European thinker publicly advocated racial extermination. He was the first."
George Watson.



2. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...."
NYTimes, November 27, 1925.


3.Shortly thereafter the Nazis found it more useful to stress differences, and the earlier campaign posters showing similarities disappeared, posters with both the hammer and sickle and the swastika. ("The Soviet Story" at 18:30)

a. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.

b. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists."
Vladimir Bukovsky.

The film "The Soviet Story" goes on to show a series of Nazi and Russian propaganda posters....except for the language, almost identical.



"Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nonsense. I see you still won't deny that the communists and nazis voted together in the Reichstag.

National Socialism was a socially conservative and economically nationalist ideology. It was totalitarianism that eschewed democracy as weak. They Nazis were opposed to both marxism and free market forces.

PC, you quote out of context, so your remarks are easily dismissed.

 

[Ava]

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

Common denominators are common in philosophy and ideologies. Why not compare political ideologies to Greek and Roman histories? Socialism has been present since people lived communally in caves. Karl Marx didn't invent it. The period of history you have chosen to examine was a time when the world was searching for the best workable forms of governing. After WWI the search became very intense. Actually, before it ended. The Russian revolution, Teddy Roosevelt and the dismantling of monopolies, the fascist in Italy, and eventually FDR's New Deal idea of governments role. All were borrowing and selecting ideas from each other. They did it in the open. It wasn't some kind of secretive conspiracy the way you present it. Everyone knew it was an age of experimenting with ideas about how governments should or could work.

You've already been put in your place.
You can stop digging.

Tap-dance all you like, the final conclusion is that


Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


Are all....each and every one....based on the collective and all-powerful government, and anti-American at the core

American values are the predominance of the individual, and limited constitutional government.

Jakey, now surely you cannot argue, with any substance, PC's perfectly legitimate post.....or can you??

If you agree with her that totalitarianism cannot come from the right, of course I can argue with that, AA. National Socialism is not a step sister to communism. It is a right wing totalitarian, nationalist ideology that attacks the liberal principles of free speech, freedom of religion, etc. that gird our democratic republic.

What I won't do is accept false definitions from PC.

"National Socialism is not a step sister to communism."

Watch me smash this custard pie right in your lying kisser.


1. "Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.

a. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981

b. "Before Marx, no other European thinker publicly advocated racial extermination. He was the first."
George Watson.



2. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...."
NYTimes, November 27, 1925.


3.Shortly thereafter the Nazis found it more useful to stress differences, and the earlier campaign posters showing similarities disappeared, posters with both the hammer and sickle and the swastika. ("The Soviet Story" at 18:30)

a. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.

b. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists."
Vladimir Bukovsky.

The film "The Soviet Story" goes on to show a series of Nazi and Russian propaganda posters....except for the language, almost identical.



"Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."

Thanks PC. Since I have been UP since 4am, I have found time to follow this thread of yours and am finding it most interesting.

I'm sure my buddy, Jake, would agree should we lose our right to own private property, we have entered into communism? Definitely socialism first. The process of eminent domain, surely isn't off Obama's table, and starting with what will become a failed attempt, to centrally-plan our neighborhoods.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You all are entitled to your opinions but not your own definitions. I am waiting for "potential relevant correlation", as Keys would say.

 

[JakeStarkey]

[Of course he is correct: every totalitarian plan has the same goal.
And they all have simpletons who deny it.
Raise your paw.

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’"
Goldberg

This is the same Goldberg who writes, "communists and Nazis tended to vote together in the Reichstag"

Jonah Goldberg: "In Italy they were called Fascists; in Germany they were called Nazis; in America they were called progressives" (page 81)

Our far right wing social conservative Christian nationalists would certainly use the nation state power "to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life."

 

[Ava]

You all are entitled to your opinions but not your own definitions. I am waiting for "potential relevant correlation", as Keys would say.

This could never be agreed upon as too many visions cannot be argued, other than for sake of argument.

I will conclude my contributions to this thread by posting something that relates to my vision for America, which used to be a land of opportunity, and then I will be off to something I am not looking forward to but which will be over soon enough and I am back to being free.

“My feeling is this whole country is founded on the principle of 'if you are not hurting anyone, and you're not fucking with someone else's shit, and you are paying your taxes, you should be able to just do what you want to do.' It's the freedom and the independence.”

― Adam Carolla

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nonsense. I see you still won't deny that the communists and nazis voted together in the Reichstag.

National Socialism was a socially conservative and economically nationalist ideology. It was totalitarianism that eschewed democracy as weak. They Nazis were opposed to both marxism and free market forces.

PC, you quote out of context, so your remarks are easily dismissed.

I just ripped one who is one a new one: you.


The only one who 'dismisses' my sourced and documented posts is a lying sack of offal....you.

 

[Camp]

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

The translation of your response

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

Common denominators are common in philosophy and ideologies. Why not compare political ideologies to Greek and Roman histories? Socialism has been present since people lived communally in caves. Karl Marx didn't invent it. The period of history you have chosen to examine was a time when the world was searching for the best workable forms of governing. After WWI the search became very intense. Actually, before it ended. The Russian revolution, Teddy Roosevelt and the dismantling of monopolies, the fascist in Italy, and eventually FDR's New Deal idea of governments role. All were borrowing and selecting ideas from each other. They did it in the open. It wasn't some kind of secretive conspiracy the way you present it. Everyone knew it was an age of experimenting with ideas about how governments should or could work.

You've already been put in your place.
You can stop digging.

Tap-dance all you like, the final conclusion is that


Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


Are all....each and every one....based on the collective and all-powerful government, and anti-American at the core

American values are the predominance of the individual, and limited constitutional government.

Translation= unable to respond beyond cut and paste so deflection and insults will have to suffice. Socialism, progressivism and liberalism are not anti American. They have been a part of the American system and culture for generations and in the case of progessivism, since before the country even formed. You are simply grouping the political ideologies you oppose with Nazi's, communist and fascist in an attempt to demonize those who have different political opinions than you own. Hell, the founders of America where the some of the most progressive individuals on the planet. Some of America's most favorite and loved programs and policies are painted with socialist influences. When questioned and polled about stand alone issue's American's favor liberal concepts.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nonsense. I see you still won't deny that the communists and nazis voted together in the Reichstag.

National Socialism was a socially conservative and economically nationalist ideology. It was totalitarianism that eschewed democracy as weak. They Nazis were opposed to both marxism and free market forces.

PC, you quote out of context, so your remarks are easily dismissed.

I just ripped one who is one a new one: you. The only one who 'dismisses' my sourced and documented posts is a lying sack of offal....you.

Your tantrum is not relevant, PC. Goldberg is a hack, and you are Eddy are following him. Your out of context cut and paste material does not further your OP, PC.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

The translation of your response

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

Common denominators are common in philosophy and ideologies. Why not compare political ideologies to Greek and Roman histories? Socialism has been present since people lived communally in caves. Karl Marx didn't invent it. The period of history you have chosen to examine was a time when the world was searching for the best workable forms of governing. After WWI the search became very intense. Actually, before it ended. The Russian revolution, Teddy Roosevelt and the dismantling of monopolies, the fascist in Italy, and eventually FDR's New Deal idea of governments role. All were borrowing and selecting ideas from each other. They did it in the open. It wasn't some kind of secretive conspiracy the way you present it. Everyone knew it was an age of experimenting with ideas about how governments should or could work.

You've already been put in your place.
You can stop digging.

Tap-dance all you like, the final conclusion is that


Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


Are all....each and every one....based on the collective and all-powerful government, and anti-American at the core

American values are the predominance of the individual, and limited constitutional government.

Translation= unable to respond beyond cut and paste so deflection and insults will have to suffice. Socialism, progressivism and liberalism are not anti American. They have been a part of the American system and culture for generations and in the case of progessivism, since before the country even formed. You are simply grouping the political ideologies you oppose with Nazi's, communist and fascist in an attempt to demonize those who have different political opinions than you own. Hell, the founders of America where the some of the most progressive individuals on the planet. Some of America's most favorite and loved programs and policies are painted with socialist influences. When questioned and polled about stand alone issue's American's favor liberal concepts.

Translation???

Why would any of my posts require a 'traslatiion'?

I'm articulate, educated, and totally correct in everything I post.




"You are simply grouping the political ideologies you oppose with Nazi's, communist and fascist in an attempt to demonize..."

Well....then take the quiz:

Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nonsense. I see you still won't deny that the communists and nazis voted together in the Reichstag.

National Socialism was a socially conservative and economically nationalist ideology. It was totalitarianism that eschewed democracy as weak. They Nazis were opposed to both marxism and free market forces.

PC, you quote out of context, so your remarks are easily dismissed.

I just ripped one who is one a new one: you. The only one who 'dismisses' my sourced and documented posts is a lying sack of offal....you.

Your tantrum is not relevant, PC. Goldberg is a hack, and you are Eddy are following him. Your out of context cut and paste material does not further your OP, PC.

So THAT'S why everyone calls you "fakey"!!!

 

[JakeStarkey]

The far right Christian Dominion movement would happly adopt most of those points, PC.