Why Do You Love The Communists?

[Camp]

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

The translation of your response

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

Common denominators are common in philosophy and ideologies. Why not compare political ideologies to Greek and Roman histories? Socialism has been present since people lived communally in caves. Karl Marx didn't invent it. The period of history you have chosen to examine was a time when the world was searching for the best workable forms of governing. After WWI the search became very intense. Actually, before it ended. The Russian revolution, Teddy Roosevelt and the dismantling of monopolies, the fascist in Italy, and eventually FDR's New Deal idea of governments role. All were borrowing and selecting ideas from each other. They did it in the open. It wasn't some kind of secretive conspiracy the way you present it. Everyone knew it was an age of experimenting with ideas about how governments should or could work.

You've already been put in your place.
You can stop digging.

Tap-dance all you like, the final conclusion is that


Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


Are all....each and every one....based on the collective and all-powerful government, and anti-American at the core

American values are the predominance of the individual, and limited constitutional government.

Translation= unable to respond beyond cut and paste so deflection and insults will have to suffice. Socialism, progressivism and liberalism are not anti American. They have been a part of the American system and culture for generations and in the case of progessivism, since before the country even formed. You are simply grouping the political ideologies you oppose with Nazi's, communist and fascist in an attempt to demonize those who have different political opinions than you own. Hell, the founders of America where the some of the most progressive individuals on the planet. Some of America's most favorite and loved programs and policies are painted with socialist influences. When questioned and polled about stand alone issue's American's favor liberal concepts.

Translation???

Why would any of my posts require a 'traslatiion'?

I'm articulate, educated, and totally correct in everything I post.




"You are simply grouping the political ideologies you oppose with Nazi's, communist and fascist in an attempt to demonize..."

Well....then take the quiz:

Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life?

There is a reason you do not include Monarchy. If you include Monarchy we discover all the concepts of the other systems you note come from the original form of government adapted by civilized society. Totalitarian Dictatorship is the mother and father of them all. That means that all the concepts you are speaking of came from the same original source, the Monarchy form of governance, the one you have left out. The most important one because it was the oldest and most prevalent when all the others were contrived and implemented.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

The translation of your response

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

Common denominators are common in philosophy and ideologies. Why not compare political ideologies to Greek and Roman histories? Socialism has been present since people lived communally in caves. Karl Marx didn't invent it. The period of history you have chosen to examine was a time when the world was searching for the best workable forms of governing. After WWI the search became very intense. Actually, before it ended. The Russian revolution, Teddy Roosevelt and the dismantling of monopolies, the fascist in Italy, and eventually FDR's New Deal idea of governments role. All were borrowing and selecting ideas from each other. They did it in the open. It wasn't some kind of secretive conspiracy the way you present it. Everyone knew it was an age of experimenting with ideas about how governments should or could work.

You've already been put in your place.
You can stop digging.

Tap-dance all you like, the final conclusion is that


Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


Are all....each and every one....based on the collective and all-powerful government, and anti-American at the core

American values are the predominance of the individual, and limited constitutional government.

Translation= unable to respond beyond cut and paste so deflection and insults will have to suffice. Socialism, progressivism and liberalism are not anti American. They have been a part of the American system and culture for generations and in the case of progessivism, since before the country even formed. You are simply grouping the political ideologies you oppose with Nazi's, communist and fascist in an attempt to demonize those who have different political opinions than you own. Hell, the founders of America where the some of the most progressive individuals on the planet. Some of America's most favorite and loved programs and policies are painted with socialist influences. When questioned and polled about stand alone issue's American's favor liberal concepts.

Translation???

Why would any of my posts require a 'traslatiion'?

I'm articulate, educated, and totally correct in everything I post.




"You are simply grouping the political ideologies you oppose with Nazi's, communist and fascist in an attempt to demonize..."

Well....then take the quiz:

Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life?

There is a reason you do not include Monarchy. If you include Monarchy we discover all the concepts of the other systems you note come from the original form of government adapted by civilized society. Totalitarian Dictatorship is the mother and father of them all. That means that all the concepts you are speaking of came from the same original source, the Monarchy form of governance, the one you have left out. The most important one because it was the oldest and most prevalent when all the others were contrived and implemented.

Great!

You were afraid to take the quiz.

Everyone will know what that means.


Now let's cut your legs off at the knee:
How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.

Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism, classical liberalism, and the Founders of America.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The far right Christian Dominion movement would happly adopt most of those points, PC.

 

[Camp]

Hitler and his cohorts campaigned for votes and support just like all politicians. And just like all other politicians they would say what people wanted to hear long enough to garner their support and go out the next day and say the exact opposite to a different crowd, the same way politicians do in America and every place else. Cherry picking and stringing together quotes and comments leads to false analysis. They flip flop and change their positions and stories to fit the situation.
No matter how many comments, quotes and photo's are found and displayed that show some kind of Nazi attempt to placate or connect to communist, once in power the Nazi's rounded up the communist and sent them to slave labor camps or murdered them before they even went after the Jews, gays, gypsies or mentally ill and physically deformed. The communist were the first to get bullets to the back of their heads. The only ones who survived were the ones who escaped before the slaughter began. Stalin organized the ones who made it to the USSR and turned them into Nazi killers as soldiers against the Reich.

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

The translation of your response

Common denominators are common in philosophy and ideologies. Why not compare political ideologies to Greek and Roman histories? Socialism has been present since people lived communally in caves. Karl Marx didn't invent it. The period of history you have chosen to examine was a time when the world was searching for the best workable forms of governing. After WWI the search became very intense. Actually, before it ended. The Russian revolution, Teddy Roosevelt and the dismantling of monopolies, the fascist in Italy, and eventually FDR's New Deal idea of governments role. All were borrowing and selecting ideas from each other. They did it in the open. It wasn't some kind of secretive conspiracy the way you present it. Everyone knew it was an age of experimenting with ideas about how governments should or could work.

You've already been put in your place.
You can stop digging.

Tap-dance all you like, the final conclusion is that


Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


Are all....each and every one....based on the collective and all-powerful government, and anti-American at the core

American values are the predominance of the individual, and limited constitutional government.

Translation= unable to respond beyond cut and paste so deflection and insults will have to suffice. Socialism, progressivism and liberalism are not anti American. They have been a part of the American system and culture for generations and in the case of progessivism, since before the country even formed. You are simply grouping the political ideologies you oppose with Nazi's, communist and fascist in an attempt to demonize those who have different political opinions than you own. Hell, the founders of America where the some of the most progressive individuals on the planet. Some of America's most favorite and loved programs and policies are painted with socialist influences. When questioned and polled about stand alone issue's American's favor liberal concepts.

Translation???

Why would any of my posts require a 'traslatiion'?

I'm articulate, educated, and totally correct in everything I post.




"You are simply grouping the political ideologies you oppose with Nazi's, communist and fascist in an attempt to demonize..."

Well....then take the quiz:

Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life?

There is a reason you do not include Monarchy. If you include Monarchy we discover all the concepts of the other systems you note come from the original form of government adapted by civilized society. Totalitarian Dictatorship is the mother and father of them all. That means that all the concepts you are speaking of came from the same original source, the Monarchy form of governance, the one you have left out. The most important one because it was the oldest and most prevalent when all the others were contrived and implemented.

Great!

You were afraid to take the quiz.

Everyone will know what that means.


Now let's cut your legs off at the knee:
How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.

Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism, classical liberalism, and the Founders of America.

I gave you a response to your post. You have chosen to debate yourself rather than respond to the points I made. You have discovered a correlation between philosophies, cultures, political ideologies and governing concepts considered and implemented in world history. It has been done before and been done in intellectual and academic forms. The cherry picking political agenda driven form you so love and use is not considered academic or intellectual. Might be considered a great method of propagandizing, but only works on those folks open to being propagandized.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

The translation of your response

You've already been put in your place.
You can stop digging.

Tap-dance all you like, the final conclusion is that


Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


Are all....each and every one....based on the collective and all-powerful government, and anti-American at the core

American values are the predominance of the individual, and limited constitutional government.

Translation= unable to respond beyond cut and paste so deflection and insults will have to suffice. Socialism, progressivism and liberalism are not anti American. They have been a part of the American system and culture for generations and in the case of progessivism, since before the country even formed. You are simply grouping the political ideologies you oppose with Nazi's, communist and fascist in an attempt to demonize those who have different political opinions than you own. Hell, the founders of America where the some of the most progressive individuals on the planet. Some of America's most favorite and loved programs and policies are painted with socialist influences. When questioned and polled about stand alone issue's American's favor liberal concepts.

Translation???

Why would any of my posts require a 'traslatiion'?

I'm articulate, educated, and totally correct in everything I post.




"You are simply grouping the political ideologies you oppose with Nazi's, communist and fascist in an attempt to demonize..."

Well....then take the quiz:

Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life?

There is a reason you do not include Monarchy. If you include Monarchy we discover all the concepts of the other systems you note come from the original form of government adapted by civilized society. Totalitarian Dictatorship is the mother and father of them all. That means that all the concepts you are speaking of came from the same original source, the Monarchy form of governance, the one you have left out. The most important one because it was the oldest and most prevalent when all the others were contrived and implemented.

Great!

You were afraid to take the quiz.

Everyone will know what that means.


Now let's cut your legs off at the knee:
How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.

Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism, classical liberalism, and the Founders of America.

I gave you a response to your post. You have chosen to debate yourself rather than respond to the points I made. You have discovered a correlation between philosophies, cultures, political ideologies and governing concepts considered and implemented in world history. It has been done before and been done in intellectual and academic forms. The cherry picking political agenda driven form you so love and use is not considered academic or intellectual. Might be considered a great method of propagandizing, but only works on those folks open to being propagandized.

Let's get something straight. Anyone who uses phrases such as 'cut and paste' or 'cherry picking' is simply trying to hide the fact that they cannot respond to the item so labeled.

Or have you changed your mind and decided to respond to the quiz?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nonsense. I see you still won't deny that the communists and nazis voted together in the Reichstag.

National Socialism was a socially conservative and economically nationalist ideology. It was totalitarianism that eschewed democracy as weak. They Nazis were opposed to both marxism and free market forces.

PC, you quote out of context, so your remarks are easily dismissed.

I just ripped one who is one a new one: you. The only one who 'dismisses' my sourced and documented posts is a lying sack of offal....you.

Your tantrum is not relevant, PC. Goldberg is a hack, and you are Eddy are following him. Your out of context cut and paste material does not further your OP, PC.

So THAT'S why everyone calls you "fakey"!!!

Typical PC. Personal attack and no refutation of solid material.

Your refusal to say that you disagree with Goldberg clearly reveals you have no game. Your loaded question fallacy of an OP is fail.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Let's get something straight. Anyone who uses phrases such as 'cut and paste' or 'cherry picking' is simply trying to hide the fact that they cannot respond to the item so labeled.

Or have you changed your mind and decided to respond to the quiz?

Tissue? The straight of it is that your cut n paste and cheery picking is not causally connected. It's just verbiage, nothing more.

Why won't you condemn Goldberg's slanted assertion that the nazis and commies often voted together in the Reichstag?

 

[Camp]

The translation of your response
Translation= unable to respond beyond cut and paste so deflection and insults will have to suffice. Socialism, progressivism and liberalism are not anti American. They have been a part of the American system and culture for generations and in the case of progessivism, since before the country even formed. You are simply grouping the political ideologies you oppose with Nazi's, communist and fascist in an attempt to demonize those who have different political opinions than you own. Hell, the founders of America where the some of the most progressive individuals on the planet. Some of America's most favorite and loved programs and policies are painted with socialist influences. When questioned and polled about stand alone issue's American's favor liberal concepts.

Translation???

Why would any of my posts require a 'traslatiion'?

I'm articulate, educated, and totally correct in everything I post.




"You are simply grouping the political ideologies you oppose with Nazi's, communist and fascist in an attempt to demonize..."

Well....then take the quiz:

Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life?

There is a reason you do not include Monarchy. If you include Monarchy we discover all the concepts of the other systems you note come from the original form of government adapted by civilized society. Totalitarian Dictatorship is the mother and father of them all. That means that all the concepts you are speaking of came from the same original source, the Monarchy form of governance, the one you have left out. The most important one because it was the oldest and most prevalent when all the others were contrived and implemented.

Great!

You were afraid to take the quiz.

Everyone will know what that means.


Now let's cut your legs off at the knee:
How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.

Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism, classical liberalism, and the Founders of America.

I gave you a response to your post. You have chosen to debate yourself rather than respond to the points I made. You have discovered a correlation between philosophies, cultures, political ideologies and governing concepts considered and implemented in world history. It has been done before and been done in intellectual and academic forms. The cherry picking political agenda driven form you so love and use is not considered academic or intellectual. Might be considered a great method of propagandizing, but only works on those folks open to being propagandized.

Let's get something straight. Anyone who uses phrases such as 'cut and paste' or 'cherry picking' is simply trying to hide the fact that they cannot respond to the item so labeled.

Or have you changed your mind and decided to respond to the quiz?

Arguing about cut and paste is not a deflection or diversion. It means the opponent of the cut and paste creator is not falling for the trick of debating or discussing concepts and ideas, or even thoughts that are not original to the creator of the cut and paste. The opponent is handicapped in that the cut and paste person can simply fling endless disjointed or vaguely related quotes into the mix. We have seen in the past how you use this method. I have often taken your first quote or claim and responded with links to challenge your assertion. You simply ignore the response, insult, declare victory and ignore the response and challenge made to you. Your thesis of FDR and Eisenhower ignoring a southern strategy comes to mind. I spent days providing links to the invasion of southern France and Italy that you seemed totally unaware off. You were unaware of a huge part of WWII yet writing a thesis about it. A thesis about the part you were unaware of and arguing that something that occurred didn't occur. You want your opponents to answer every question you pose, but refuse to answer any that are addressed to you. In the last few post in this thread I challenged your thesis by bringing up the fact that you left out an important form of governance that makes your thesis useless by the very fact you left it out. You will not address it until you can find some cut and paste blurbs to respond with. Absent that you will simple play your usual role of ignoring, insulting, evading and deflecting.
Your thesis in this case can not be debated if you are not willing to concede the influence of various Monarchy's that influenced the thoughts of all those involved with creating the forms of governance you are using in your thesis. The founding fathers were not the first to consider rights and freedoms. Marx was not the first to consider making farmers work together and splitting the proceeds evenly. The Nazi's were not the first to promote and use national and ethnic pride as a tactic for unification.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The far right Christian Dominion movement would happly adopt most of those points, PC.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Translation???

Why would any of my posts require a 'traslatiion'?

I'm articulate, educated, and totally correct in everything I post.




"You are simply grouping the political ideologies you oppose with Nazi's, communist and fascist in an attempt to demonize..."

Well....then take the quiz:

Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life?

There is a reason you do not include Monarchy. If you include Monarchy we discover all the concepts of the other systems you note come from the original form of government adapted by civilized society. Totalitarian Dictatorship is the mother and father of them all. That means that all the concepts you are speaking of came from the same original source, the Monarchy form of governance, the one you have left out. The most important one because it was the oldest and most prevalent when all the others were contrived and implemented.

Great!

You were afraid to take the quiz.

Everyone will know what that means.


Now let's cut your legs off at the knee:
How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.

Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism, classical liberalism, and the Founders of America.

I gave you a response to your post. You have chosen to debate yourself rather than respond to the points I made. You have discovered a correlation between philosophies, cultures, political ideologies and governing concepts considered and implemented in world history. It has been done before and been done in intellectual and academic forms. The cherry picking political agenda driven form you so love and use is not considered academic or intellectual. Might be considered a great method of propagandizing, but only works on those folks open to being propagandized.

Let's get something straight. Anyone who uses phrases such as 'cut and paste' or 'cherry picking' is simply trying to hide the fact that they cannot respond to the item so labeled.

Or have you changed your mind and decided to respond to the quiz?

Arguing about cut and paste is not a deflection or diversion. It means the opponent of the cut and paste creator is not falling for the trick of debating or discussing concepts and ideas, or even thoughts that are not original to the creator of the cut and paste. The opponent is handicapped in that the cut and paste person can simply fling endless disjointed or vaguely related quotes into the mix. We have seen in the past how you use this method. I have often taken your first quote or claim and responded with links to challenge your assertion. You simply ignore the response, insult, declare victory and ignore the response and challenge made to you. Your thesis of FDR and Eisenhower ignoring a southern strategy comes to mind. I spent days providing links to the invasion of southern France and Italy that you seemed totally unaware off. You were unaware of a huge part of WWII yet writing a thesis about it. A thesis about the part you were unaware of and arguing that something that occurred didn't occur. You want your opponents to answer every question you pose, but refuse to answer any that are addressed to you. In the last few post in this thread I challenged your thesis by bringing up the fact that you left out an important form of governance that makes your thesis useless by the very fact you left it out. You will not address it until you can find some cut and paste blurbs to respond with. Absent that you will simple play your usual role of ignoring, insulting, evading and deflecting.
Your thesis in this case can not be debated if you are not willing to concede the influence of various Monarchy's that influenced the thoughts of all those involved with creating the forms of governance you are using in your thesis. The founding fathers were not the first to consider rights and freedoms. Marx was not the first to consider making farmers work together and splitting the proceeds evenly. The Nazi's were not the first to promote and use national and ethnic pride as a tactic for unification.

Well....then take the quiz:

Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The time has come to ask the mods to automatically assign PC's OPs on FDR, Communism, etc., to the Conspiracy Forum.

She won't debate. She attacks opposing evidence, attacks personality, declares victory, and ponces around.

 

[JakeStarkey]

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx? Communism

2. Which is a form of command and control big government? Christian Dominionism

3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies? American Governmnet in 18th and 19th cnturies

4. Which is based on the collective over the individual? Christian Dominionism

5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?Christian Dominionism and Communism

6. Which represents totalitarian governance?Christian Dominionism

7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?Christian Dominionism

8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life?Christian Dominionism

 

[ScreamingEagle]

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx? Communism

2. Which is a form of command and control big government? Christian Dominionism

3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies? American Governmnet in 18th and 19th cnturies

4. Which is based on the collective over the individual? Christian Dominionism

5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?Christian Dominionism and Communism

6. Which represents totalitarian governance?Christian Dominionism

7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?Christian Dominionism

8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life?Christian Dominionism

put Islam in place of Christian and you might pass the test...

 

[JakeStarkey]

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx? Communism

2. Which is a form of command and control big government? Christian Dominionism

3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies? American Governmnet in 18th and 19th cnturies

4. Which is based on the collective over the individual? Christian Dominionism

5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?Christian Dominionism and Communism

6. Which represents totalitarian governance?Christian Dominionism

7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?Christian Dominionism

8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life?Christian Dominionism

put Islam in place of Christian and you might pass the test...

The test has been passed with 100% Christian Dominionism is one of the secret criminal conspiracies festering in our society today.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx? Communism

2. Which is a form of command and control big government? Christian Dominionism

3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies? American Governmnet in 18th and 19th cnturies

4. Which is based on the collective over the individual? Christian Dominionism

5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?Christian Dominionism and Communism

6. Which represents totalitarian governance?Christian Dominionism

7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?Christian Dominionism

8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life?Christian Dominionism

put Islam in place of Christian and you might pass the test...

The test has been passed with 100% Christian Dominionism is one of the secret criminal conspiracies festering in our society today.

lol....let me know when one of those festering criminal conspiring dominionists threatens to cut your head off.....

 

[JakeStarkey]

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx? Communism

2. Which is a form of command and control big government? Christian Dominionism

3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies? American Governmnet in 18th and 19th cnturies

4. Which is based on the collective over the individual? Christian Dominionism

5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?Christian Dominionism and Communism

6. Which represents totalitarian governance?Christian Dominionism

7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?Christian Dominionism

8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life?Christian Dominionism

put Islam in place of Christian and you might pass the test...

The test has been passed with 100% Christian Dominionism is one of the secret criminal conspiracies festering in our society today.

lol....let me know when one of those festering criminal conspiring dominionists threatens to cut your head off.....

Can handle you and the jihadists together while editing my latest book and playing lacrosse.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So....verbiage aside....you have not way to deny that the National Socialists, the Nazis, and the International Socialists, the communists, are scion of Karl Marx?


Witness is dismissed.

The translation of your response

You've already been put in your place.
You can stop digging.

Tap-dance all you like, the final conclusion is that


Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


Are all....each and every one....based on the collective and all-powerful government, and anti-American at the core

American values are the predominance of the individual, and limited constitutional government.

Translation= unable to respond beyond cut and paste so deflection and insults will have to suffice. Socialism, progressivism and liberalism are not anti American. They have been a part of the American system and culture for generations and in the case of progessivism, since before the country even formed. You are simply grouping the political ideologies you oppose with Nazi's, communist and fascist in an attempt to demonize those who have different political opinions than you own. Hell, the founders of America where the some of the most progressive individuals on the planet. Some of America's most favorite and loved programs and policies are painted with socialist influences. When questioned and polled about stand alone issue's American's favor liberal concepts.

Translation???

Why would any of my posts require a 'traslatiion'?

I'm articulate, educated, and totally correct in everything I post.




"You are simply grouping the political ideologies you oppose with Nazi's, communist and fascist in an attempt to demonize..."

Well....then take the quiz:

Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life?

There is a reason you do not include Monarchy. If you include Monarchy we discover all the concepts of the other systems you note come from the original form of government adapted by civilized society. Totalitarian Dictatorship is the mother and father of them all. That means that all the concepts you are speaking of came from the same original source, the Monarchy form of governance, the one you have left out. The most important one because it was the oldest and most prevalent when all the others were contrived and implemented.

Great!

You were afraid to take the quiz.

Everyone will know what that means.


Now let's cut your legs off at the knee:
How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.

Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism, classical liberalism, and the Founders of America.

I gave you a response to your post. You have chosen to debate yourself rather than respond to the points I made. You have discovered a correlation between philosophies, cultures, political ideologies and governing concepts considered and implemented in world history. It has been done before and been done in intellectual and academic forms. The cherry picking political agenda driven form you so love and use is not considered academic or intellectual. Might be considered a great method of propagandizing, but only works on those folks open to being propagandized.

dear, so please tell us why the liberals, not the conservatives, spied for the communists and Nazis???