Why does anyone care about slavery in America 153 years ago?

[iamwhatiseem]

It is simply easy. It is easy for about half of Americans and the rest of the world to pretend that America invented slavery and colonization and blame America for all those ills.

Look up "Tall Poppy Syndrome" if you're not already aware. It's especially easy for Europeans to do this when most of their nations are crumbling under their feet.

It's easy to be a dimocrap. Super easy.

It requires no brains, no thought, no responsibility to others, no independent thinking, no work, no research.... Nothing.

Notice where ALL dimocrap thought on this board originates. ALL of it.

It all comes from the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM. Even this thread.

So rather than come up with original thoughts, dimocraps just parrot what the LSM tells them to parrot and they march merrily, hand-in-hand into the abyss.

Unfortunately, they want to take the rest of the Country with them.

I have no problem with them killing themselves, just leave the rest of us out of it.

Not knowing the difference between chattel slavery and communism or economic servitude is a prime example of the stupidity of dimocraps

You're a moron.
I am conservative. Quite conservative. Probably more than you.
The last time I voted nationally Democrat was over 30 years ago.
This isn't a right vs. left subject. In fact, it should be one we all agree with.
Where I live we lost 15 factories within 90 miles of here over since NAFTA.... all of those factories moving overseas to take advantage of wages so low it is really not wages at all.
I don't give a goddamn about slavery that ended 153 years ago. Not one concern except for the fact we ended it.
What I do care about is just how much I have to go out of my way to buy a product that is not made using slave wages.

 

[there4eyeM]

What is hypocritical is to lament and make amends for something so far in the past while our sisters everywhere in the world are so horribly treated before our very eyes.

 

[Natural Citizen]

The government automatically registered my son for conscription the day he turned 18.

He asked me why.

I said to my son that this is how the government lets you know that it thinks it owns you, son.

And when you start creating wealth, they'll send you a letter every year on April 15th further reminding you that they own you, that they own all of your income, and that they set the terms for which you may keep a portion of it. They further remind you that if you do not consent, then, they will send men with guns from the government to put you in a cage and force you to testify against yourself in front of an uninformed jury.

Slavery never went away.

 

[evenflow1969]

A really, really, really shitty analogy.

There is a YUGE difference between chattel slavery and economic servitude.

Learn it. Meanwhile, this thread's premise is a pile of shit.

Guilty conscience eh?
Obviously today's slaves are not like slaves throughout the world in every nations past.
But that doesn't mean they don't still exist. They exist everywhere.
Working 16 hour days, many 6 days a week, some 7... no benefits of any kind... living in 300-400 sq ft concrete bunkers (and they are the lucky ones) making wages that barely-barely covers just the amount needed to buy meager groceries.... IS slave labor.

But but I gotta have the latest iPhone....


THERE is your hypocrisy. How many leftists do you suppose buy Apple's products which have been documented to be made via child and female slave labor?

You can not go with out buying chinese goods these days, not a whole lot of made in the USA lables around these days! Wether you be left or right, chinese goods are every where! Mean while the right is actively trying to make working conditions here as bad as there!

Rationalizing your apple purchase?

How bout these poor kids?

I have no apple product! Of course it was the rights corpoate kiss ass policy that lead to all the jobs going over seas. There was a time we had a strong manufacturing base until all the tax shelters and the coporate raid of US wealth!

 

[iamwhatiseem]

That is flat bull shit kaz! of course you are nomally full of it!

Well, actually that is true.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-obama-administration-children-human-traffickers/

 

[SweetSue92]

It is simply easy. It is easy for about half of Americans and the rest of the world to pretend that America invented slavery and colonization and blame America for all those ills.

Look up "Tall Poppy Syndrome" if you're not already aware. It's especially easy for Europeans to do this when most of their nations are crumbling under their feet.

It's easy to be a dimocrap. Super easy.

It requires no brains, no thought, no responsibility to others, no independent thinking, no work, no research.... Nothing.

Notice where ALL dimocrap thought on this board originates. ALL of it.

It all comes from the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM. Even this thread.

So rather than come up with original thoughts, dimocraps just parrot what the LSM tells them to parrot and they march merrily, hand-in-hand into the abyss.

Unfortunately, they want to take the rest of the Country with them.

I have no problem with them killing themselves, just leave the rest of us out of it.

Not knowing the difference between chattel slavery and communism or economic servitude is a prime example of the stupidity of dimocraps

You're a moron.
I am conservative. Quite conservative. Probably more than you.
The last time I voted nationally Democrat was over 30 years ago.
This isn't a right vs. left subject. In fact, it should be one we all agree with.
Where I live we lost 15 factories within 90 miles of here over since NAFTA.... all of those factories moving overseas to take advantage of wages so low it is really not wages at all.
I don't give a goddamn about slavery that ended 153 years ago. Not one concern except for the fact we ended it.
What I do care about is just how much I have to go out of my way to buy a product that is not made using slave wages.

Um, not a moron, thanks. And you're conflating.

Slaves do not get paid. What you're talking about might be called low-wage labor or sweat shops, and I'm concerned about that too. But it's not slavery; it's something different, as many posters have pointed out to you.

 

[ricechickie]

.... when most of what you purchase is made by slaves today?
How is it possible for people to lament so much about our slave history, when day after day they gleefully buy products basically made by slaves?
Today's slaves are not forced into labor, they are not bought and sold like 150 years ago.... but make no mistake about it - they exist everywhere. And you are wearing the results of their labor right now.
Did you know most slave owners in America paid their slaves? In many counties they were required by law to do so.
Is it not disingenuous to cry about slavery that existed 150+ years ago....and then consistently choose products made using slave wages?

So what’s your goal with this post? To shut up anyone who thinks that slavery in America was a shameful chapter of our history that we (as a country) still haven’t made amends for.......

....or to bring awareness to those performing slave labor in the rest of the world?

BTW, not being bought and sold is a BIG difference.

 

[kaz]

.... when most of what you purchase is made by slaves today?
How is it possible for people to lament so much about our slave history, when day after day they gleefully buy products basically made by slaves?
Today's slaves are not forced into labor, they are not bought and sold like 150 years ago.... but make no mistake about it - they exist everywhere. And you are wearing the results of their labor right now.
Did you know most slave owners in America paid their slaves? In many counties they were required by law to do so.
Is it not disingenuous to cry about slavery that existed 150+ years ago....and then consistently choose products made using slave wages?

We do not want it to happen again and unfortunately it is! Now people are being made into sex slaves!

Wow, you must hate the Democrats then for helping sex slave trafficers keep the children they acquired as they cross the border

That is flat bull shit kaz! of course you are nomally full of it!

Are you ignorant by choice or design? There is no opinion in that. The Democrats don't care that they are preventing ICE from determining which are the parents and which are the sexual predators

 

[iamwhatiseem]

It is simply easy. It is easy for about half of Americans and the rest of the world to pretend that America invented slavery and colonization and blame America for all those ills.

Look up "Tall Poppy Syndrome" if you're not already aware. It's especially easy for Europeans to do this when most of their nations are crumbling under their feet.

It's easy to be a dimocrap. Super easy.

It requires no brains, no thought, no responsibility to others, no independent thinking, no work, no research.... Nothing.

Notice where ALL dimocrap thought on this board originates. ALL of it.

It all comes from the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM. Even this thread.

So rather than come up with original thoughts, dimocraps just parrot what the LSM tells them to parrot and they march merrily, hand-in-hand into the abyss.

Unfortunately, they want to take the rest of the Country with them.

I have no problem with them killing themselves, just leave the rest of us out of it.

Not knowing the difference between chattel slavery and communism or economic servitude is a prime example of the stupidity of dimocraps

You're a moron.
I am conservative. Quite conservative. Probably more than you.
The last time I voted nationally Democrat was over 30 years ago.
This isn't a right vs. left subject. In fact, it should be one we all agree with.
Where I live we lost 15 factories within 90 miles of here over since NAFTA.... all of those factories moving overseas to take advantage of wages so low it is really not wages at all.
I don't give a goddamn about slavery that ended 153 years ago. Not one concern except for the fact we ended it.
What I do care about is just how much I have to go out of my way to buy a product that is not made using slave wages.

Um, not a moron, thanks. And you're conflating.

Slaves do not get paid. What you're talking about might be called low-wage labor or sweat shops, and I'm concerned about that too. But it's not slavery; it's something different, as many posters have pointed out to you.

What are you talking about?
Southern slave owners paid slaves meager wages. In many counties it was required by law.
It is a little known fact. The vast majority of slaves in America received wages. Now that does not, in any way, reduce how horribly wrong the whole slave industry was. Of course it was wrong. And - it is no less wrong today!
Lamenting about how wrong slavery was, while wearing clothes made by people living in horrific living conditions, receiving wages no less insufficient as past slaves received is more than just a bit disingenuous.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

.... when most of what you purchase is made by slaves today?
How is it possible for people to lament so much about our slave history, when day after day they gleefully buy products basically made by slaves?
Today's slaves are not forced into labor, they are not bought and sold like 150 years ago.... but make no mistake about it - they exist everywhere. And you are wearing the results of their labor right now.
Did you know most slave owners in America paid their slaves? In many counties they were required by law to do so.
Is it not disingenuous to cry about slavery that existed 150+ years ago....and then consistently choose products made using slave wages?

So what’s your goal with this post? To shut up anyone who thinks that slavery in America was a shameful chapter of our history that we (as a country) still haven’t made amends for.......

....or to bring awareness to those performing slave labor in the rest of the world?

BTW, not being bought and sold is a BIG difference.

And exactly why I made the comparison.
But, it is usual for posters here to always assume the worst. Especially if they think the OP is wearing the opposite color uniform.
Of course the point of the thread is to ONCE AGAIN raise awareness that the very products you buy every single day is made by people who are absolutely slaves.
In my book, if a person has no choice but to work 12 - 16 hour days, 6-7 days a week...and still cannot survive, but must live with other people working the same jobs just to pool enough money together to buy food - is a goddamn slave. Period.

 

[Dragonlady]

.... when most of what you purchase is made by slaves today?
How is it possible for people to lament so much about our slave history, when day after day they gleefully buy products basically made by slaves?
Today's slaves are not forced into labor, they are not bought and sold like 150 years ago.... but make no mistake about it - they exist everywhere. And you are wearing the results of their labor right now.
Did you know most slave owners in America paid their slaves? In many counties they were required by law to do so.
Is it not disingenuous to cry about slavery that existed 150+ years ago....and then consistently choose products made using slave wages?

So what’s your goal with this post? To shut up anyone who thinks that slavery in America was a shameful chapter of our history that we (as a country) still haven’t made amends for.......

....or to bring awareness to those performing slave labor in the rest of the world?

BTW, not being bought and sold is a BIG difference.

And exactly why I made the comparison.
But, it is usual for posters here to always assume the worst. Especially if they think the OP is wearing the opposite color uniform.
Of course the point of the thread is to ONCE AGAIN raise awareness that the very products you buy every single day is made by people who are absolutely slaves.
In my book, if a person has no choice but to work 12 - 16 hour days, 6-7 days a week...and still cannot survive, but must live with other people working the same jobs just to pool enough money together to buy food - is a goddamn slave. Period.

And to be clear, this applies to anyone working for minimum wage in America today. Especially those in the fast food industry forced to sign non-compete contracts who are promoted to “fry cook manager” so they can be forced to work 60 hour weeks with no overtime pay.

Not only are they working for shit wages, they can’t even quit their job and go work for fast food joint across the street for better money because of the non-compete agreement.

If that isn’t a form of slavery I don’t know what is.

 

[buckeye45_73]

A really, really, really shitty analogy.

There is a YUGE difference between chattel slavery and economic servitude.

Learn it. Meanwhile, this thread's premise is a pile of shit.

Guilty conscience eh?
Obviously today's slaves are not like slaves throughout the world in every nations past.
But that doesn't mean they don't still exist. They exist everywhere.
Working 16 hour days, many 6 days a week, some 7... no benefits of any kind... living in 300-400 sq ft concrete bunkers (and they are the lucky ones) making wages that barely-barely covers just the amount needed to buy meager groceries.... IS slave labor.

The funny thing is Africa still has real slavery....and it's a pretty hush hush subject

 

[iamwhatiseem]

.... when most of what you purchase is made by slaves today?
How is it possible for people to lament so much about our slave history, when day after day they gleefully buy products basically made by slaves?
Today's slaves are not forced into labor, they are not bought and sold like 150 years ago.... but make no mistake about it - they exist everywhere. And you are wearing the results of their labor right now.
Did you know most slave owners in America paid their slaves? In many counties they were required by law to do so.
Is it not disingenuous to cry about slavery that existed 150+ years ago....and then consistently choose products made using slave wages?

So what’s your goal with this post? To shut up anyone who thinks that slavery in America was a shameful chapter of our history that we (as a country) still haven’t made amends for.......

....or to bring awareness to those performing slave labor in the rest of the world?

BTW, not being bought and sold is a BIG difference.

And exactly why I made the comparison.
But, it is usual for posters here to always assume the worst. Especially if they think the OP is wearing the opposite color uniform.
Of course the point of the thread is to ONCE AGAIN raise awareness that the very products you buy every single day is made by people who are absolutely slaves.
In my book, if a person has no choice but to work 12 - 16 hour days, 6-7 days a week...and still cannot survive, but must live with other people working the same jobs just to pool enough money together to buy food - is a goddamn slave. Period.

And to be clear, this applies to anyone working for minimum wage in America today. Especially those in the fast food industry forced to sign non-compete contracts who are promoted to “fry cook manager” so they can be forced to work 60 hour weeks with no overtime pay.

Not only are they working for shit wages, they can’t even quit their job and go work for fast food joint across the street for better money because of the non-compete agreement.

If that isn’t a form of slavery I don’t know what is.

Sorry, but that isn't even close to slave labor. Not even remotely close.
Fast food jobs were never meant to be a form of sustainable employment.
But it does highlight the fact how corporatism, the investor class and their lackeys in our government has moved millions of good paying jobs overseas to fatten their own pockets.
And the very Americans who lost those jobs, and many like them... line up at the stores every weekend buying the very products they use to make. You talk about dumb.

 

[ricechickie]

.... when most of what you purchase is made by slaves today?
How is it possible for people to lament so much about our slave history, when day after day they gleefully buy products basically made by slaves?
Today's slaves are not forced into labor, they are not bought and sold like 150 years ago.... but make no mistake about it - they exist everywhere. And you are wearing the results of their labor right now.
Did you know most slave owners in America paid their slaves? In many counties they were required by law to do so.
Is it not disingenuous to cry about slavery that existed 150+ years ago....and then consistently choose products made using slave wages?

So what’s your goal with this post? To shut up anyone who thinks that slavery in America was a shameful chapter of our history that we (as a country) still haven’t made amends for.......

....or to bring awareness to those performing slave labor in the rest of the world?

BTW, not being bought and sold is a BIG difference.

And exactly why I made the comparison.
But, it is usual for posters here to always assume the worst. Especially if they think the OP is wearing the opposite color uniform.
Of course the point of the thread is to ONCE AGAIN raise awareness that the very products you buy every single day is made by people who are absolutely slaves.
In my book, if a person has no choice but to work 12 - 16 hour days, 6-7 days a week...and still cannot survive, but must live with other people working the same jobs just to pool enough money together to buy food - is a goddamn slave. Period.

And to be clear, this applies to anyone working for minimum wage in America today. Especially those in the fast food industry forced to sign non-compete contracts who are promoted to “fry cook manager” so they can be forced to work 60 hour weeks with no overtime pay.

Not only are they working for shit wages, they can’t even quit their job and go work for fast food joint across the street for better money because of the non-compete agreement.

If that isn’t a form of slavery I don’t know what is.

Sorry, but that isn't even close to slave labor. Not even remotely close.
Fast food jobs were never meant to be a form of sustainable employment.
But it does highlight the fact how corporatism, the investor class and their lackeys in our government has moved millions of good paying jobs overseas to fatten their own pockets.
And the very Americans who lost those jobs, and many like them... line up at the stores every weekend buying the very products they use to make. You talk about dumb.

Where is it written that any job isn’t meant to be a form of sustainable employment?

 

[rightwinger]

Slavery is part of our history

It almost destroyed the country

 

[Doc1]

They want money, it's just that simple.

 

[OldLady]

Liberal media (PBS especially) relentlessly show stuff about slavery, and old black & white footage from Jim Crow days, to keep blacks angry, when all the while, they're getting Affirmative Action favoritism. Keeps the AA covered up, and deflected from.

It's not to "keep blacks angry." It is to TRY for the umpteenth time to educate the white, clueless population as to why blacks are where they are. Angry, misrepresented, and still seen as inferior.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Slavery is part of our history

It almost destroyed the country

If Blacks don't free themselves from Democratic Party oppression it still might..

 

[OldLady]

The government automatically registered my son for conscription the day he turned 18.

He asked me why.

I said to my son that this is how the government lets you know that it thinks it owns you, son.

And when you start creating wealth, they'll send you a letter every year on April 15th further reminding you that they own you, that they own all of your income, and that they set the terms for which you may keep a portion of it. They further remind you that if you do not consent, then, they will send men with guns from the government to put you in a cage and force you to testify against yourself in front of an uninformed jury.

Slavery never went away.

The government can't sell your son to another family when he is 5. A man with guns cannot legally rape your wife (or husband). You are not considered 3/5 of a person with no right to vote. You are not legally prohibited from sitting in certain parts of a restaurant or using a certain bathroom or water fountain because of your color.

What you are describing may be too much government intervention, but it is not slavery.

 

[OldLady]

.... when most of what you purchase is made by slaves today?
How is it possible for people to lament so much about our slave history, when day after day they gleefully buy products basically made by slaves?
Today's slaves are not forced into labor, they are not bought and sold like 150 years ago.... but make no mistake about it - they exist everywhere. And you are wearing the results of their labor right now.
Did you know most slave owners in America paid their slaves? In many counties they were required by law to do so.
Is it not disingenuous to cry about slavery that existed 150+ years ago....and then consistently choose products made using slave wages?

So what’s your goal with this post? To shut up anyone who thinks that slavery in America was a shameful chapter of our history that we (as a country) still haven’t made amends for.......

....or to bring awareness to those performing slave labor in the rest of the world?

BTW, not being bought and sold is a BIG difference.

And exactly why I made the comparison.
But, it is usual for posters here to always assume the worst. Especially if they think the OP is wearing the opposite color uniform.
Of course the point of the thread is to ONCE AGAIN raise awareness that the very products you buy every single day is made by people who are absolutely slaves.
In my book, if a person has no choice but to work 12 - 16 hour days, 6-7 days a week...and still cannot survive, but must live with other people working the same jobs just to pool enough money together to buy food - is a goddamn slave. Period.

It is not slavery. It is good old American capitalism. Before I went to college, I understood well what all that means. It sucks out loud if you are one of those workers, frustrating as hell and pretty depressing at times. Especially (I felt) if all your efforts were only making the boss richer, not doing anything to make life better for anyone on the planet.
But it's not slavery.