Why doesn't meat help meat eaters be healthy?

[Blues Man]

They do not have one in the same way that we do. They still scream when cut, according to scientists.

Saying the faint ultrasonic noise is a "scream" is dubious at best.

 

[Woodznutz]

This is NOT a Christian position. It comes from another source.

Sounds like you and Buttercup are trying to 'work out my salvation' for me.

 

[Woodznutz]

You forget to mention that part where it says foods fortified with B12 result in better absorption than eating meat

No biggy, considering the small amount that we need.

 

[Woodznutz]

So they just keep an animal pregnant for its entire life

Yeah that's not cruel at all

They get a rest between calves.

 

[Woodznutz]

I can certainly tell what cruelty is.

What's sad is you need some god to tell you what it is.

And thinking that your god will think less of you for not killing animals is what's sad.

Cruelty to animals is the least of our cruelty problems.

 

[Blues Man]

They get a rest between calves.

No they don't since the calves are just taken away and killed for veal

 

[Woodznutz]

You must be so proud

Sniping doesn't add to the discussion.

 

[Blues Man]

Cruelty to animals is the least of our cruelty problems.

It's one of many of our problems and since it is completely unnecessary it's the easiest one to solve.

 

[Blues Man]

Sniping doesn't add to the discussion.

Neither does your alleged prowess in killing defenseless animals.

 

[Woodznutz]

Nutritional yeast, mushrooms algae and if you pull up a root crop, dust it off and eat it, you get B12.

How many vegans actually do this?

 

[Woodznutz]

It's one of many of our problems and since it is completely unnecessary it's the easiest one to solve.

Except for the unintended consequences that would follow. We have bigger problems to address.

 

[Blues Man]

How many vegans actually do this?

Lots.

You seem to think that there is no information readily available on how to design a healthy whole food plant based diet.

I use nutritional yeast every day. It has a very good savory flavor that compliment just about anything you cook

I eat mushrooms almost every day too

 

[Blues Man]

Except for the unintended consequences that would follow. We have bigger problems to address.

Only you think that's a problem.

I bet you would have been upset when buttonhooks became obsolete too right?

 

[Woodznutz]

I can certainly tell what cruelty is.

What's sad is you need some god to tell you what it is.

And thinking that your god will think less of you for not killing animals is what's sad.

Living by God's word has worked well for me.

 

[Blues Man]

Living by God's word has worked well for me.

Living without worshiping any gods has worked well for me

 

[Woodznutz]

Lots.

You seem to think that there is no information readily available on how to design a healthy whole food plant based diet.

I use nutritional yeast every day. It has a very good savory flavor that compliment just about anything you cook

I eat mushrooms almost every day too

B12 is added to nutritional yeast, it doesn't occur naturally.

 

[Woodznutz]

Neither does your alleged prowess in killing defenseless animals.

That wasn't my intention. Don't read things into my statements.

 

[justoffal]

America's relatively unhealthy population is largely due to obesity. Now make the connection to eating too much meat.

Is it possible for the extreme right to just leave out the hate, scorn, and racism, and stick to the facts?

I know several healthy vegetarians. Markus Rothkranz for instance.
However it's worth saying that such healthy vegetarians usually have degrees in nutrition. It is very important to find all the amino acids. To get them all from the plants take a considerable effort and a great deal of knowledge.

 

[Woodznutz]

Only you think that's a problem.

Knee-jerk responses aren't very well thought out.

 

[Blues Man]

B12 is added to nutritional yeast, it doesn't occur naturally.

SO what?

The B12 used is produced exactly the same way it is in nature.

You seem pretty selective on what you consider "unnatural"

Feeding cows grain is "Unnatural"

Pumping cows full of antibiotics and steroids is "unnatural"

Humans drinking cow milk is "unnatural"

But you give all those things a pass and have this seemingly insurmountable problem with using bacteria to produce B12 which is EXACLTY the way it is formed in the soil.