Why don't people want to know the truth about 9/11?

[SFC Ollie]

Based on what?

You keep posting buildings that were of fire that did not collapse as a comparison. These buildings were not designed the same nor were they hit by jets.

SO what are you basing this claim on?

so what building codes were changed as a result of the NIST investigations of the collapse ?....NONE

Why didn't you answer the question eots?

Why do you use buildings of dissimilar design and damage type when comparing how the towers and WTC7 SHOULD have not collapsed?

I'll ask you yet again.

Do any of the buildings you compare to the towers and WTC7 have the same structural design AND were they hit by a jet? The jet caused damage to the structural components. The fire further weakened them.

Why won't you answer?

Truthers do not answer questions.

 

[Gamolon]

apples and oranges

Yup, apples and oranges. You're quite famous for making these types of comparison to try and further your views, but never answer the tough questions.

For example, comparing this building collapse from fire alone...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Qg_-89Zr8

To this...

And this...

Can you please tell all of us here what structural and damage characteristics were similar between building in video YOU posted above and the Twin Towers/WTC7 that you think were similar in order to make that comparison. That the towers and WTC7 should have reacted exactly like the building in your video and remained standing.

Let's see if your intelligent enough to do that.

Otherwise, you're full of shit.

 

[Gamolon]

Now eots pretends he didn't see the question.

Gotta love this subject.

As I have asked several times now; Why is it that the truther videos always start the collapse of building 7 nine seconds after the penthouse falls into the building. Which by the way sort of proves that the interior had already collapsed before most truthers start their countdown of the "freefall".

so your saying you saw a video and it did not start until after the penthouse collapsed...I see....are you saying it took 9 secs for the penthouse to collapse ?

Here's the video eots.


The penthouse starts it's collapse into the building at :12. The global collapse doesn't start until :19. The top of the outer facade doesn't disappear from sight until :23.

Ollie's question is why do all the videos posted by truthers all start at :19 when the facade starts? Why do they always say the collapse happened at free fall when it didn't? Only a portion of it did. Why is the penthouse collapse not shown in the truther videos?

Answer me this. If the facade collapsed at freefall because the columns were cut with thermite or explosives, why didn't the free fall start until .8 seconds AFTER the start of the descent? According to you "physics experts" the columns were removed thus creating free fall right? If that were the case, free fall would have started from the moment the facade started to fall.

No truther has ever been able to answer this.

How about it PhysicsExist? Care to answer this one? Eots? Anyone?

 

[SFC Ollie]

We all know they can't answer it. The answer proves they are wrong.

 

[eots]

Now eots pretends he didn't see the question.

Gotta love this subject.

As I have asked several times now; Why is it that the truther videos always start the collapse of building 7 nine seconds after the penthouse falls into the building. Which by the way sort of proves that the interior had already collapsed before most truthers start their countdown of the "freefall".

so your saying you saw a video and it did not start until after the penthouse collapsed...I see....are you saying it took 9 secs for the penthouse to collapse ?

Here's the video eots.


The penthouse starts it's collapse into the building at :12. The global collapse doesn't start until :19. The top of the outer facade doesn't disappear from sight until :23.

Ollie's question is why do all the videos posted by truthers all start at :19 when the facade starts? Why do they always say the collapse happened at free fall when it didn't? Only a portion of it did. Why is the penthouse collapse not shown in the truther videos?

Answer me this. If the facade collapsed at freefall because the columns were cut with thermite or explosives, why didn't the free fall start until .8 seconds AFTER the start of the descent? According to you "physics experts" the columns were removed thus creating free fall right? If that were the case, free fall would have started from the moment the facade started to fall.

No truther has ever been able to answer this.

How about it PhysicsExist? Care to answer this one? Eots? Anyone?

because the center columns were blown .8 secs before the rest...

 

[eots]

why didn't the entire internal structure collapsing within not create massive amounts of noise and dust as this mas of destruction occurred behind the facade...did it all fall silently ? ?

 

[eots]

apples and oranges

Yup, apples and oranges. You're quite famous for making these types of comparison to try and further your views, but never answer the tough questions.

For example, comparing this building collapse from fire alone...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Qg_-89Zr8

To this...

And this...

Can you please tell all of us here what structural and damage characteristics were similar between building in video YOU posted above and the Twin Towers/WTC7 that you think were similar in order to make that comparison. That the towers and WTC7 should have reacted exactly like the building in your video and remained standing.

Let's see if your intelligent enough to do that.

Otherwise, you're full of shit.

there were several buildings in the video I posted...are you saying the design of wtc 7 was faulted in the collapse...what changes to building code were made as a result of these design flaws ??

 

[Wicked Jester]

so your saying you saw a video and it did not start until after the penthouse collapsed...I see....are you saying it took 9 secs for the penthouse to collapse ?

Here's the video eots.


The penthouse starts it's collapse into the building at :12. The global collapse doesn't start until :19. The top of the outer facade doesn't disappear from sight until :23.

Ollie's question is why do all the videos posted by truthers all start at :19 when the facade starts? Why do they always say the collapse happened at free fall when it didn't? Only a portion of it did. Why is the penthouse collapse not shown in the truther videos?

Answer me this. If the facade collapsed at freefall because the columns were cut with thermite or explosives, why didn't the free fall start until .8 seconds AFTER the start of the descent? According to you "physics experts" the columns were removed thus creating free fall right? If that were the case, free fall would have started from the moment the facade started to fall.

No truther has ever been able to answer this.

How about it PhysicsExist? Care to answer this one? Eots? Anyone?

because the center columns were blown .8 secs before the rest...

And how were they blown?

No evidence has ever been found. No explosions relating to a controlled demolition were ever heard......No witness to the placement of explosives has ever been found.

What was used to blow it up.

 

[eots]

damage did not play signification role in the collapse of wtc 7 according to NIST

 

[eots]

Here's the video eots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrnmbUDeHus

The penthouse starts it's collapse into the building at :12. The global collapse doesn't start until :19. The top of the outer facade doesn't disappear from sight until :23.

Ollie's question is why do all the videos posted by truthers all start at :19 when the facade starts? Why do they always say the collapse happened at free fall when it didn't? Only a portion of it did. Why is the penthouse collapse not shown in the truther videos?

Answer me this. If the facade collapsed at freefall because the columns were cut with thermite or explosives, why didn't the free fall start until .8 seconds AFTER the start of the descent? According to you "physics experts" the columns were removed thus creating free fall right? If that were the case, free fall would have started from the moment the facade started to fall.

No truther has ever been able to answer this.

How about it PhysicsExist? Care to answer this one? Eots? Anyone?

because the center columns were blown .8 secs before the rest...

And how were they blown?

No evidence has ever been found. No explosions relating to a controlled demolition were ever heard......No witness to the placement of explosives has ever been found.

What was used to blow it up.

No investigation for explosive residues was ever done there are many reports of explosions

 

[SFC Ollie]

because the center columns were blown .8 secs before the rest...

And how were they blown?

No evidence has ever been found. No explosions relating to a controlled demolition were ever heard......No witness to the placement of explosives has ever been found.

What was used to blow it up.

No investigation for explosive residues was ever done there are many reports of explosions

Get your fucking head straight, secondary explosions are normal in a high rise fire. Secondary explosions do not take out support columns. There were no explosions that could be called controlled demolition reported. There were no explosions that could be called controlled demolition recorded. Because there were none. Zero. Zip. Nada.

 

[eots]

And how were they blown?

No evidence has ever been found. No explosions relating to a controlled demolition were ever heard......No witness to the placement of explosives has ever been found.

What was used to blow it up.

No investigation for explosive residues was ever done there are many reports of explosions

[

QUOTE]Get your fucking head straight, secondary explosions are normal in a high rise fire. Secondary explosions do not take out support column

what a stupid comment...." explosions do not take out columns"

here were no explosions that could be called controlled demolition reported. There were no explosions that could be called controlled demolition recorded. Because there were none. Zero. Zip.

keeping in mind the failure of a single column is credited for initiating the collapse ..what does a controlled demolition explosion sound like

 

[DiveCon]

No investigation for explosive residues was ever done there are many reports of explosions

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what a stupid comment...." explosions do not take out columns"

here were no explosions that could be called controlled demolition reported. There were no explosions that could be called controlled demolition recorded. Because there were none. Zero. Zip.

keeping in mind the failure of a single column is credited for initiating the collapse ..what does a controlled demolition explosion sound like

learn to fucking READ idiot

he said "secondary explosions do not take out columns"

 

[Wicked Jester]

damage did not play signification role in the collapse of wtc 7 according to NIST

LMAO!
[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kSq663m0G8&NR=1[/ame]
At 1:25 Shyam Sunder clearly explains the severity of the damage. What he says is backed up in the video footage and pictures of the building.

Firefighters on scene well before the collapse said the building was going to collapse. that sections of it were leaning. That collapse was inevitable.

Christ man, how can you people be so friggin' gullible to be led around by a bunch of morons making a quick buck off of you people?

 

[eots]

damage did not play signification role in the collapse of wtc 7 according to NIST

LMAO!
[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kSq663m0G8&NR=1[/ame]
At 1:25 Shyam Sunder clearly explains the severity of the damage. What he says is backed up in the video footage and pictures of the building.

Firefighters on scene well before the collapse said the building was going to collapse. that sections of it were leaning. That collapse was inevitable.

Christ man, how can you people be so friggin' gullible to be led around by a bunch of morons making a quick buck off of you people?

according to NIST there was no leaning and damage played no significantl role in the collapse...So once again the debwunkers reject the NIST theory they claim to support...if damage and leaning is a factor the entire NIST collapse scenario and computer simulation will not create the desired results..you support a theories that you do not even comprehend

 

[BrianH]

EOTS...is there any particular reason you have ignored my post!?

 

[Wicked Jester]

damage did not play signification role in the collapse of wtc 7 according to NIST

LMAO!
[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kSq663m0G8&NR=1[/ame]
At 1:25 Shyam Sunder clearly explains the severity of the damage. What he says is backed up in the video footage and pictures of the building.

Firefighters on scene well before the collapse said the building was going to collapse. that sections of it were leaning. That collapse was inevitable.

Christ man, how can you people be so friggin' gullible to be led around by a bunch of morons making a quick buck off of you people?

according to NIST there was no leaning and damage played no significantl role in the collapse...So once again the debwunkers reject the NIST theory they claim to support...if damage and leaning is a factor the entire NIST collapse scenario and computer simulation will not create the desired results..you support a theories that you do not even comprehend

Fire was the main cause of the collapse, aided by damage to the structure.

Do you even understand how that building was constructed?

 

[eots]

LMAO!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kSq663m0G8&NR=1
At 1:25 Shyam Sunder clearly explains the severity of the damage. What he says is backed up in the video footage and pictures of the building.

Firefighters on scene well before the collapse said the building was going to collapse. that sections of it were leaning. That collapse was inevitable.

Christ man, how can you people be so friggin' gullible to be led around by a bunch of morons making a quick buck off of you people?

according to NIST there was no leaning and damage played no significantl role in the collapse...So once again the debwunkers reject the NIST theory they claim to support...if damage and leaning is a factor the entire NIST collapse scenario and computer simulation will not create the desired results..you support a theories that you do not even comprehend

Fire was the main cause of the collapse, aided by damage to the structure.

Do you even understand how that building was constructed?

not according to NIST...deal with it

 

[Wicked Jester]

according to NIST there was no leaning and damage played no significantl role in the collapse...So once again the debwunkers reject the NIST theory they claim to support...if damage and leaning is a factor the entire NIST collapse scenario and computer simulation will not create the desired results..you support a theories that you do not even comprehend

Fire was the main cause of the collapse, aided by damage to the structure.

Do you even understand how that building was constructed?

not according to NIST...deal with it

LMAO!

We all know what Sumder said about the damage.

But hey, at least you're acknowledging that the fires did contribute to the collapse. Because well, THEY DID!......I mean, fire weakens steel, eh?

 

[Wicked Jester]

EOTS...is there any particular reason you have ignored my post!?