why even after tonight's debate the left may be stuck with Biden ..

[Lumpy 1]

Trump is a convict with several trials pending

Biden is not a convict


That is your reality Saint_Lumpy1

Eh .. Biden/Democrat lawfare, let’s see how the appeals process works out, conveniently (yup.. chicken shit) setup for Biden/Democrats after the election.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Biden/Democrat lawfare,

Biden didn’t make Trump fuck a pornstar while his wife was nursing baby Baron Trump back home. And Biden didn’t make Trump defraud the voters right before the 2016 election by getting the porn star paid to keep silent about the affair,

 

[Lumpy 1]

Biden didn’t make Trump fuck a pornstar while his wife was nursing baby Baron Trump back home. And Biden didn’t make Trump defraud the voters right before the 2016 election by getting the porn star paid to keep silent about the affair,

Wow .. a Democrat with morals .. unbelievable

Trump’s marriage is none of my business and a lying prostitute blackmailing a wealthy Presidential candidate seems like a plausible possibility to me. Have you no sympathy for a victim of blackmail.. (mmm .. I didn’t think so)

Btw .. love the drama

 

[JoeB131]

Joe muffed his presentation

Trump exposed his unfamiliarity with truth, facts, reality and most importantly he has zero inner core value of decency and love of humanity with all the faults that come with being human.

Trump was the fucking mess in the debate. Let’s hope a good number of undecided idiots see it that way.

They won't.

Here's the thing. Trump did say a lot of stupid shit, but most Americans are too stupid to realize how stupid what he said sounded.

Take Tariffs. He presented them as "getting back at the countries that are ripping us off!" This is bullshit, all a tariff does is raise prices for the US consumer. But for the American consumer, who has been told for decades that the Chinese did them a nasty, this resonates. (And Biden didn't help himself by leaving the Chinese tariffs in place.)

 

[JoeB131]

Wow .. a Democrat with morals .. unbelievable

Trump’s marriage is none of my business and a lying prostitute blackmailing a wealthy Presidential candidate seems like a plausible possibility to me. Have you no sympathy for a victim of blackmail.. (mmm .. I didn’t think so)

Btw .. love the drama

I have zero sympathy for victims of blackmail.

No one could blackmail me, I have nothing to be embarrassed about.

 

[Lumpy 1]

I have zero sympathy for victims of blackmail.

No one could blackmail me, I have nothing to be embarrassed about.

Well .. I hate to mess with your hallo but I’d bet there’s at least a few posts you’d regret. I know for sure I’ve got plenty.

 

[JoeB131]

Well .. I hate to mess with your hallo but I’d bet there’s at least a few posts you’d regret. I know for sure I’ve got plenty.

I don't say anything here that I don't say in front of people I know.

Mostly, it's "Well, that's Uncle Joe being Uncle Joe!"

 

[otto105]

The only reason Biden isn’t a convict is because he’s too unstable to stand trial and the Justice Department is leftwing corrupted.

He didn't sexually abuse E Jean Carroll or lie about adultery with Stormy Daniels.

 

[otto105]

The only reason Biden isn’t a convict is because he’s too unstable to stand trial and the Justice Department is leftwing corrupted.

The reason is that he isn’t is because he hasn’t committed a crime.


Simple even for you maga felony fuckups

 

[Lumpy 1]

The reason is that he isn’t is because he hasn’t committed a crime.


Simple even for you maga felony fuckups

Bullshit .. he and his families bank accounts tell a far different story, you’re just slow and potty mouthed otto.

 

[Lumpy 1]

He didn't sexually abuse E Jean Carroll or lie about adultery with Stormy Daniels.

E Jean Carrol’s a nut case (your kinda gal) and Stormy Daniels is a paid whore (also your kinda gal).

 

[JoeB131]

E Jean Carrol’s a nut case (your kinda gal) and Stormy Daniels is a paid whore (also your kinda gal).

Yet courts found both of them credible and Trump not so much.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Yet courts found both of them credible and Trump not so much.

..and you’re fine with it .. it all makes sense to me..

 

[yidnar]

IF the Democrats run him in November, I will still vote for him.

But the Democrats need to consider the tactical implications of running an 82-year-old who will be 86 when he leaves office.

 

[yidnar]

And racist, misogynistic, homophobic Republicans who carry Tiki Torches are "very fine people", of course.

the very fine people hoax has been debunked ..

 

[yidnar]

They cannot, and should not even try, and certainly not with Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom.

OK, Joe sucked on stage last night. Bid deal. There has not be a first presidential debate in memory, for a sitting President, where the sitting president came close to winning. That is a fact. That obviously includes all two term presidents, as well as the one-term Presidents, such as Donald Trump, George W. Bush, and Jimmy Carter. The debate is not what elects Presidents. It is only a factor. I am amazed to see the number of people that choke on one bad performance, as if again memory fails to remember, all sitting presidents

Many Trumpers on here, said there was no need to watch the debate, at all, and tried repeatedly to influence others not to even watch. They were wrong, though I wish I had not watched the train wreck in person, but train wreck, it was.

I still support Joe Biden, as having an administrative team, that has done well for the country, with the big exception of immigration. I support, aid to Ukraine, to prevent the invading Russians from taking over another country, that does not wish to be under Russian Rule and stands in the way of Russian attempt on other breakaways, and NATO itself, while Trump would give it away, as if meaningless. I of course support NATO and know, if Ukraine falls, it will endanger NATO and EU countries, possibly becoming the first major event of World War III. We are respected and appreciated by our allies once again. In dangerous times, it is good to have friends, that know we will sound the alarm and stand up to support freedom from the tyranny of rogue nations across the world with our economic partners.

I see the the US economy in economic terms, the envy of the world, having bounce back from COVID at a progressive rate, never seen under Trump, except for excessive inflation, the first two years. That inflation, mostly caused by Trump's dumping $8.4 Trillion Dollars of free money short term support into the economy during Covid, not on building or producing, but simply free money, which is always inflationary, by any economist standard ever. It is amazing the inflation rate was broken after only two years, though still left with higher prices, due to "Ratchet Effect". It is good to see wages continuing to advance for working people and the increasing value of homes, increasing the net worth of homeowners across the country, as we worked for it, and this perk not reserved for the top 1%, trump loves, so well. I heard trump talk about food going up 100, 200, 300, 400 percent, another trump debate lie. The truth being closer to 25%, which is sad, but there is no better time to raise prices (if you are a businessman) than with a monetary money dump, direct to middle and lower income people, (many of whom spend everything they make) employment rapidly rising, and wage hikes for basically the first time in this century, other than the top 1 or 2%, to whom all money flows.

Though Joe did a piss poor job of articulating it coherently last night, I favor the Democratic viewpoint on abortion, as I support women's rights, as the Supremes used to support women rights, before turning it over to the states, to take away women's right to make decisions with their doctor, not at the whim of the Right Wing that would (where possible) deny even the people at large to have a say in what they think policy should be, less they choose to keep big government out of women's pants, as we all now know, they favor big government making personal decisions for women, if they can possibly avoid and open referendum. This is understandable, as the Anti-Abortion zealots consistently lose on those, when the people get to decide, rather than be dictated to, so their only choice is to deny voters a chance to vote.

Last, but not least, is the character and love of country of the two men, our constitution, our laws, our values. Joe is the hands down winner, as Trump totally failed on all of these. Trump could very well be the downfall of our republic, based on our constitution, laws and mechanisms of government. I have preached on this, ever since I came to board, and that was before Trump's moves to repeatedly lie about the election, overthrow the election, and even send a trump mob to The Capital. Now again, he says he will not promise to support the outcome of the election, just as he never has, nor will he, in the future, if he does not win, even if it takes rabble-rousing and violence.

 

[yidnar]

I can’t believe I read all your post..

I didn't ... I just automatically posted the laughing emoji ..

 

[yidnar]

I agree, but let's look at the reality.

This is the rematch no one really wanted.

If the argument becomes Biden's Age vs. Trump's age/misogyny/racism/corruption/insanity, there are a lot of people who will still not want either.

Having a younger consensus candidate tap in would eliminate that problem, and have someone who can take the fight to Trump.

no one wanted ? Trump was picked out of over a dozen primary challengers for the nomination .. its the left that doesn't like the choices !

 

[yidnar]

They won't.

Here's the thing. Trump did say a lot of stupid shit, but most Americans are too stupid to realize how stupid what he said sounded.

Take Tariffs. He presented them as "getting back at the countries that are ripping us off!" This is bullshit, all a tariff does is raise prices for the US consumer. But for the American consumer, who has been told for decades that the Chinese did them a nasty, this resonates. (And Biden didn't help himself by leaving the Chinese tariffs in place.)

the tariffs he levied and threatened levy didn't cause inflation when he was POTUS .. and he uses the threat of tariffs as a fairer trade bargaining tool .. Trump has something that is alien to leftists ..common sense .. for example the left claims Trump taxing foreign entities causes inflation but raising taxes American businesses doesn't cause inflation .

 

[yidnar]

I have zero sympathy for victims of blackmail.

No one could blackmail me, I have nothing to be embarrassed about.

you have plenty to be embarrassed about ..