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Why healthcare isn't a Right.....

2aguy

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This is for all the left wingers who don't understand the concept of a Right......vs. economics....

The ‘Right’ to Health Care

Here is a thought experiment: You have four children and three apples. You would like for everyone to have his own apple.

You go to Congress, and you successfully persuade the House and the Senate to endorse a joint resolution declaring that everyone has a right to an apple of his own.


A ticker-tape parade is held in your honor, and you share your story with Oprah, after which you are invited to address the United Nations, which passes the International Convention on the Rights of These Four Kids in Particular to an Individual Apple Each. You are visited by the souls of Mohandas Gandhi and Mother Teresa, who beam down approvingly from a joint Hindu-Catholic cloud in Heaven.


Question: How many apples do you have? You have three apples, dummy. Three.

You have four children.

Each of those children has a congressionally endorsed, U.N.-approved, saint-ratified right to an apple of his own.

But here’s the thing: You have three apples and four children. Nothing has changed.

Declaring a right in a scarce good is meaningless. It is a rhetorical gesture without any application to the events and conundrums of the real world. If the Dalai Lama were to lead 10,000 bodhisattvas in meditation, and the subject of that meditation was the human right to health care, it would do less good for the cause of actually providing people with health care than the lowliest temp at Merck does before his second cup of coffee on any given Tuesday morning. Health care is physical, not metaphysical. It consists of goods, such as penicillin and heart stents, and services, such as oncological attention and radiological expertise. Even if we entirely eliminated money from the equation, conscripting doctors into service and nationalizing the pharmaceutical factories, the basic economic question would remain. We tend to retreat into cheap moralizing when the economic realities become uncomfortable for us. No matter the health-care model you choose — British-style public monopoly, Swiss-style subsidized insurance, pure market capitalism — you end up with rationing: Markets ration through prices, bureaucracies ration through politics.

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Thank god we have a right to firearms.
AMEN
Love that second amendment!
Comes in handy for end of life care too.
its amazing how someone that hates govt as much as you do, always hates on the second amendment.
That was in reference to health"care" in america son, see if ya can keep up. Are you confused much?

Please run find evidence of me ever hating on your beloved 2nd. I do find frothy-mouthed zealots amusing though, prolly always will.
 
Thank god we have a right to firearms.
AMEN
Love that second amendment!
Comes in handy for end of life care too.
its amazing how someone that hates govt as much as you do, always hates on the second amendment.
That was in reference to health"care" in america son, see if ya can keep up. Are you confused much?
I can keep up, asswipe. It isn't just this thread. Its a lot of them you post in.
To be a scientist, you sure are a dumbfuck.
 
Thank god we have a right to firearms.
AMEN
Love that second amendment!
Comes in handy for end of life care too.
its amazing how someone that hates govt as much as you do, always hates on the second amendment.
That was in reference to health"care" in america son, see if ya can keep up. Are you confused much?
I can keep up, asswipe. It isn't just this thread. Its a lot of them you post in.
To be a scientist, you sure are a dumbfuck.

Brilliant.
 
Why healthcare isn't a Right.....

In a civilized society, basic health care is a right, like being treated in an emergency.
However, if you want your boobs or prick enlarged, then that's not right ... or natural, IMO.
:)
 
Why healthcare isn't a Right.....

In a civilized society, basic health care is a right, like being treated in an emergency.
However, if you want your boobs or prick enlarged, then that's not right ... or natural, IMO.
And the US trails the rest of the advanced post-industrialized world.
 
The matter of healthcare as a right was decided by the SCOTUS when they declared it was just a tax, not a right.

Congress should not even be writing a health care law unless that law is to outlaw insurance companies. The healthcare infrastructure would be forced to charge a reasonable rate for their services if people could only afford a specific amount for x treatment.
 
Why healthcare isn't a Right.....

In a civilized society, basic health care is a right, like being treated in an emergency.
However, if you want your boobs or prick enlarged, then that's not right ... or natural, IMO.
And the US trails the rest of the advanced post-industrialized world.
The heartless and greedy conservative Repubs are in control.
:-(
 
The matter of healthcare as a right was decided by the SCOTUS when they declared it was just a tax, not a right.

Congress should not even be writing a health care law unless that law is to outlaw insurance companies. The healthcare infrastructure would be forced to charge a reasonable rate for their services if people could only afford a specific amount for x treatment.
No one in the system is ever going after the insurance companies or any other center of corporate wealth and power.
 
Thank god we have a right to firearms.

Actually, you have a right to bear arms, but you don't have the right to have one provided to you. And therein lies the difference.

Stunning revelation, this alters everything.

Based on your off-topic and rather foolish reference to the 2nd amendment, I assumed you didn't understand what the right to bear arms means, or the right to health care either. Good to know I cleared it up for you.
 
The matter of healthcare as a right was decided by the SCOTUS when they declared it was just a tax, not a right.

Congress should not even be writing a health care law unless that law is to outlaw insurance companies. The healthcare infrastructure would be forced to charge a reasonable rate for their services if people could only afford a specific amount for x treatment.
No one in the system is ever going after the insurance companies or any other center of corporate wealth and power.
Trump is looking into ways to address the costs of healthcare. It's a problem that starts much deeper than insurance.

He's already talked about scaling back certain regulations that only increase the price of medications.
 
Why healthcare isn't a Right.....

In a civilized society, basic health care is a right, like being treated in an emergency.
However, if you want your boobs or prick enlarged, then that's not right ... or natural, IMO.
And the US trails the rest of the advanced post-industrialized world.


Not true.....the healthcare systems around the world are collapsing...they can't afford them even though they don't have to pay for their own militaries.....
 
Why healthcare isn't a Right.....

In a civilized society, basic health care is a right, like being treated in an emergency.
However, if you want your boobs or prick enlarged, then that's not right ... or natural, IMO.
And the US trails the rest of the advanced post-industrialized world.


Not true.....the healthcare systems around the world are collapsing...they can't afford them even though they don't have to pay for their own militaries.....
Sure, american tv tells me so. Jesus bub.
 
The matter of healthcare as a right was decided by the SCOTUS when they declared it was just a tax, not a right.

Congress should not even be writing a health care law unless that law is to outlaw insurance companies. The healthcare infrastructure would be forced to charge a reasonable rate for their services if people could only afford a specific amount for x treatment.
No one in the system is ever going after the insurance companies or any other center of corporate wealth and power.
Trump is looking into ways to address the costs of healthcare. It's a problem that starts much deeper than insurance.

He's already talked about scaling back certain regulations that only increase the price of medications.
Don ain't gonna do shit and neither is anyone else. Watch. The Canadians get US pharma products for less than you do. Course they have nationalized single payer healthcare and can negotiate based upon volume. Then the pharma industry makes up the difference on your pricing.
 

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