Why I don't believe in God

[Mudda]

Faith is the belief in something unprovable. The total opposite of science.

You just expressed your faith that scientists will someday discover how to defy physics. Dark Matter and Dark Energy exists and we know it exists because math says it has to exist and math is not a theory. However, aside from math, we cannot prove it exists. Physicists will sheepishly admit that DM and DE are pretty much "metaphysical" in nature. We can't interact with it, we don't have any physical way to do so, nor will we ever create one.

You just made something else up. I think that scientist will probably figure it out, that's not faith that's reality. If they never figure it out, I don't really care, I'm just thinking that they probably will. Not faith that they will, but that they might and likely will. No faith required. Unlike you, who has faith that "nor will we ever create one", which is unprovable/just plain wrong because you have no clue what humans might do a million years from now...

I think that scientist will probably figure it out, that's not faith that's reality.

Uhm... bro... that IS faith! It's reality of your faith!

If i say that I have faith that god exists, it's not "probably" or "might", it's for sure.
And I'm going on past scientific discoveries, where scientists just keep looking until they find the correct solution, so my expectations are based on something real, not on some made-up nonsense.
Sorry, you lose.

No... Your FAITH is still based on FAITH. That never changes. The fact is, you have FAITH in Science just the same as someone else may have FAITH in God.

Bolding the word "faith" makes you fail even more.
Faith is the belief in something unprovable, unlike science.

 

[Mudda]

If you believe in the god of the bible, then you "worship" him. Worship is basically "honour shown to an object", the object in this case being your invisible Big Guy.

I don't believe in the God of the Bible. I have respect for people who do believe in that God, as long as they are promoting and advocating positive spiritual energy through it. If they are killing people and promoting hatred and intolerance, I have no respect for them.

The God that I worship is Spiritual Nature.

Making your god just as made-up as all the others.

 

[Boss]

You have yet to demonstrate that your spirituality is real or affects anyone in any way. What you have is a theory, and a pretty lame one at that.

~100k years of human history. Case closed.

So if we believe in Santa Claus for at least 100k years, he's then declared real? Ummm... no.
Sorry, you fail miserably again. Case closed.

If you believe for 100k years that Santa Clause really exists and are willing to die for that belief and refuse to ever allow that belief to die and it's inherent in 95% of the population throughout that time... then YES!

 

[Boss]

You just expressed your faith that scientists will someday discover how to defy physics. Dark Matter and Dark Energy exists and we know it exists because math says it has to exist and math is not a theory. However, aside from math, we cannot prove it exists. Physicists will sheepishly admit that DM and DE are pretty much "metaphysical" in nature. We can't interact with it, we don't have any physical way to do so, nor will we ever create one.

You just made something else up. I think that scientist will probably figure it out, that's not faith that's reality. If they never figure it out, I don't really care, I'm just thinking that they probably will. Not faith that they will, but that they might and likely will. No faith required. Unlike you, who has faith that "nor will we ever create one", which is unprovable/just plain wrong because you have no clue what humans might do a million years from now...

I think that scientist will probably figure it out, that's not faith that's reality.

Uhm... bro... that IS faith! It's reality of your faith!

If i say that I have faith that god exists, it's not "probably" or "might", it's for sure.
And I'm going on past scientific discoveries, where scientists just keep looking until they find the correct solution, so my expectations are based on something real, not on some made-up nonsense.
Sorry, you lose.

No... Your FAITH is still based on FAITH. That never changes. The fact is, you have FAITH in Science just the same as someone else may have FAITH in God.

Bolding the word "faith" makes you fail even more.
Faith is the belief in something unprovable, unlike science.

Faith is the belief in something unprovable....
I think that scientist will probably figure it out.

 

[Boss]

They MIGHT and LIKELY WILL

FAAAAITH!!


faith

1. The reasoning of beliefs hoped true by the proof of things, such as philosophy, that are without the real evidence of sight, sound, and touch.

Your phrase is an oxymoron: you can't have proof of something that has no real evidence.
Sorry, you fail again.

Take it up with American Heritage, Merriam Webster and Dictionary.com ...I just copied and pasted.

 

[Mudda]

You have yet to demonstrate that your spirituality is real or affects anyone in any way. What you have is a theory, and a pretty lame one at that.

~100k years of human history. Case closed.

So if we believe in Santa Claus for at least 100k years, he's then declared real? Ummm... no.
Sorry, you fail miserably again. Case closed.

If you believe for 100k years that Santa Clause really exists and are willing to die for that belief and refuse to ever allow that belief to die and it's inherent in 95% of the population throughout that time... then YES!

Wow! Really? I had you pegged higher than that mentally.
Sorry, I failed badly.

 

[Boss]

Making your god just as made-up as all the others.

Where is your scientific proof (or even, evidence) that humans made up spirituality?

 

[Boss]

You have yet to demonstrate that your spirituality is real or affects anyone in any way. What you have is a theory, and a pretty lame one at that.

~100k years of human history. Case closed.

So if we believe in Santa Claus for at least 100k years, he's then declared real? Ummm... no.
Sorry, you fail miserably again. Case closed.

If you believe for 100k years that Santa Clause really exists and are willing to die for that belief and refuse to ever allow that belief to die and it's inherent in 95% of the population throughout that time... then YES!

Wow! Really? I had you pegged higher than that mentally.
Sorry, I failed badly.

Well let's turn this back around to objective scientific evaluation. If we studied the behavior of salmon for thousands and thousands of years and we noticed they sometimes swim upstream but we don't understand why they do this... is it "scientific" to rationally conclude they just made up the ritual out of fear or in order to console themselves?

 

[Mudda]

You just made something else up. I think that scientist will probably figure it out, that's not faith that's reality. If they never figure it out, I don't really care, I'm just thinking that they probably will. Not faith that they will, but that they might and likely will. No faith required. Unlike you, who has faith that "nor will we ever create one", which is unprovable/just plain wrong because you have no clue what humans might do a million years from now...

I think that scientist will probably figure it out, that's not faith that's reality.

Uhm... bro... that IS faith! It's reality of your faith!

If i say that I have faith that god exists, it's not "probably" or "might", it's for sure.
And I'm going on past scientific discoveries, where scientists just keep looking until they find the correct solution, so my expectations are based on something real, not on some made-up nonsense.
Sorry, you lose.

No... Your FAITH is still based on FAITH. That never changes. The fact is, you have FAITH in Science just the same as someone else may have FAITH in God.

Bolding the word "faith" makes you fail even more.
Faith is the belief in something unprovable, unlike science.

Faith is the belief in something unprovable....
I think that scientist will probably figure it out.

Based on something real, past scientific discoveries. Anyways, the word :faith" doesn't always have the exact same meaning, like if I say "I have faith in my brother to get it right...". In this instance, having faith means that I think that there's a good chance that he'll get it right, not that my brother is unprovable, or that his success his unprovable. Is English not your first language?

 

[Mudda]

Making your god just as made-up as all the others.

Where is your scientific proof (or even, evidence) that humans made up spirituality?

Religion.

 

[Mudda]

You have yet to demonstrate that your spirituality is real or affects anyone in any way. What you have is a theory, and a pretty lame one at that.

~100k years of human history. Case closed.

So if we believe in Santa Claus for at least 100k years, he's then declared real? Ummm... no.
Sorry, you fail miserably again. Case closed.

If you believe for 100k years that Santa Clause really exists and are willing to die for that belief and refuse to ever allow that belief to die and it's inherent in 95% of the population throughout that time... then YES!

Wow! Really? I had you pegged higher than that mentally.
Sorry, I failed badly.

Well let's turn this back around to objective scientific evaluation. If we studied the behavior of salmon for thousands and thousands of years and we noticed they sometimes swim upstream but we don't understand why they do this... is it "scientific" to rationally conclude they just made up the ritual out of fear or in order to console themselves?

You're arguing from the intelligence-perspective of a walnut. I can't answer that. Ask a walnut.

 

[Boss]

Unlike you, who has faith that "nor will we ever create one", which is unprovable/just plain wrong because you have no clue what humans might do a million years from now...

I don't think humans will be here in a million years. In fact, we're beating the odds to be here this long.

We will never be able to create any physical apparatus to measure something that doesn't interact with physical matter. You may as well be wishing for a machine to detect God or spirits. Do you think that will one day be possible?

FAITH is the belief in something that isn't proven. You've expressed faith that science will someday answer all the questions regarding dark energy and matter. But somehow, you don't see that as faith. You believe in something that isn't proven, but you don't think that is faith. Weird.

 

[Boss]

Making your god just as made-up as all the others.

Where is your scientific proof (or even, evidence) that humans made up spirituality?

Religion.

Well no.. Religion didn't precede spirituality, it was the other way around. Humans were exhibiting spiritual beliefs LONG before any recorded evidence of organized religion. Come on now, you need to be showing me some SCIENCE here! Not your EMOTIVE FAITH!

 

[Boss]

You're arguing from the intelligence-perspective of a walnut. I can't answer that. Ask a walnut.

Well if that is the case, you are being completely outwitted and outclassed by a walnut... how does that feel?

 

[Boss]

I think that scientist will probably figure it out, that's not faith that's reality.

Uhm... bro... that IS faith! It's reality of your faith!

If i say that I have faith that god exists, it's not "probably" or "might", it's for sure.
And I'm going on past scientific discoveries, where scientists just keep looking until they find the correct solution, so my expectations are based on something real, not on some made-up nonsense.
Sorry, you lose.

No... Your FAITH is still based on FAITH. That never changes. The fact is, you have FAITH in Science just the same as someone else may have FAITH in God.

Bolding the word "faith" makes you fail even more.
Faith is the belief in something unprovable, unlike science.

Faith is the belief in something unprovable....
I think that scientist will probably figure it out.

Based on something real, past scientific discoveries. Anyways, the word :faith" doesn't always have the exact same meaning, like if I say "I have faith in my brother to get it right...". In this instance, having faith means that I think that there's a good chance that he'll get it right, not that my brother is unprovable, or that his success his unprovable. Is English not your first language?

Huh??? No, I posted the definition in English. If you think there is "a good chance" of something, that is FAITH. If you think that something is not provable... that is also FAITH. ANY belief you have that isn't proven at the moment you have the belief, is FAITH.

 

[Boss]

Based on something real, past scientific discoveries.

You have nothing that is "real" or based on past science to suggest that we can ever build a physical detector to measure something that defies physical principles. As I said, Dark Matter simply passes through your physical detector, whatever it is. Therefore, your physical detector is useless.

 

[Mudda]

Unlike you, who has faith that "nor will we ever create one", which is unprovable/just plain wrong because you have no clue what humans might do a million years from now...

I don't think humans will be here in a million years. In fact, we're beating the odds to be here this long.

We will never be able to create any physical apparatus to measure something that doesn't interact with physical matter. You may as well be wishing for a machine to detect God or spirits. Do you think that will one day be possible?

FAITH is the belief in something that isn't proven. You've expressed faith that science will someday answer all the questions regarding dark energy and matter. But somehow, you don't see that as faith. You believe in something that isn't proven, but you don't think that is faith. Weird.

You keep putting words in my mouth to make me fit into your neat little world. I said that scientists will probably, but maybe not, find a second way, after mathematics, to detect DM and DE. More faith required.

 

[Mudda]

Making your god just as made-up as all the others.

Where is your scientific proof (or even, evidence) that humans made up spirituality?

Religion.

Well no.. Religion didn't precede spirituality, it was the other way around. Humans were exhibiting spiritual beliefs LONG before any recorded evidence of organized religion. Come on now, you need to be showing me some SCIENCE here! Not your EMOTIVE FAITH!

Religion and spirituality are two pockets in the same pair of pants. No need to go apeshit about it.

 

[Mudda]

You're arguing from the intelligence-perspective of a walnut. I can't answer that. Ask a walnut.

Well if that is the case, you are being completely outwitted and outclassed by a walnut... how does that feel?

I noticed that you cut out your previous post from this mini-thread. That says a lot.

And no, I don't dumb-down that far.

 

[Mudda]

If i say that I have faith that god exists, it's not "probably" or "might", it's for sure.
And I'm going on past scientific discoveries, where scientists just keep looking until they find the correct solution, so my expectations are based on something real, not on some made-up nonsense.
Sorry, you lose.

No... Your FAITH is still based on FAITH. That never changes. The fact is, you have FAITH in Science just the same as someone else may have FAITH in God.

Bolding the word "faith" makes you fail even more.
Faith is the belief in something unprovable, unlike science.

Faith is the belief in something unprovable....
I think that scientist will probably figure it out.

Based on something real, past scientific discoveries. Anyways, the word :faith" doesn't always have the exact same meaning, like if I say "I have faith in my brother to get it right...". In this instance, having faith means that I think that there's a good chance that he'll get it right, not that my brother is unprovable, or that his success his unprovable. Is English not your first language?

Huh??? No, I posted the definition in English. If you think there is "a good chance" of something, that is FAITH. If you think that something is not provable... that is also FAITH. ANY belief you have that isn't proven at the moment you have the belief, is FAITH.

A good chance is just playing the odds. Ever been in a casino? Played the horses? If you go in betting on faith, you're done.