Why Independents like myself voted for Trump

I voted for Trump because what's wrong with putting America and Americans first? Look at the Bidens, selling out America to foreign countries to line their own pockets THAT'S the establishment politicians in both parties.
The problem you have is Trump talked about nationalism but failed in every aspect to institute nationalism. He was incompetent in every way. He surrounded himself with establishment sycophants, who undermined him at every turn. He was too stupid or careless to see it.

In addition, you’ve got senile old Joe all wrong. He won’t sell out to foreign countries. He will sell out to the ultra wealthy oligarchs, the MIC, and Wall Street.

By all means tell us who the alternative was? Did you really think one Trump like POTUS could reverse decades of DC corruption in a single term? I told everyone when Trump won it would take several Trumps to get this shit cleaned up. And that's with the swamp fighting back tooth and nail.
He did great at failure: huge deficits, giant bailouts, riots, recession, most pandemic deaths, couldn’t hit 3% gdp growth, failed tariffs....

Most stopped paying attention to your dishonest lying posts long ago.
Yet you can’t deny all those are true. He was a disaster. Huge deficits, giant bailouts, riots, recession, most pandemic deaths, couldn’t hit 3% gdp growth, failed tariffs....
Yet you change the topic. Context matters. Lowest unemployment, growing stock market, bailouts happened due to a global plague.
Unemployment was going down for 6 years prior to trump. It continued that trend. Stock market was also growing, it almost always is. Farmer bailout was due to trumps failed tariffs.
 













We don’t want the rest of America looking like this. The reports are indisputable. Every place leftists touch becomes awful. No wonder people are flocking to Fl, TN, NC and TX!

You are a trumper, not an independent. He was a giant failure: huge deficits, giant bailouts, riots, recession, most pandemic deaths, couldn’t hit 3% gdp growth, failed tariffs....

I have asked you this before you 10x and you always dodge. How does GDP growth impact your life? Be specific.

You don’t understand economics.
 
I voted for Trump because what's wrong with putting America and Americans first? Look at the Bidens, selling out America to foreign countries to line their own pockets THAT'S the establishment politicians in both parties.
The problem you have is Trump talked about nationalism but failed in every aspect to institute nationalism. He was incompetent in every way. He surrounded himself with establishment sycophants, who undermined him at every turn. He was too stupid or careless to see it.

In addition, you’ve got senile old Joe all wrong. He won’t sell out to foreign countries. He will sell out to the ultra wealthy oligarchs, the MIC, and Wall Street.

By all means tell us who the alternative was? Did you really think one Trump like POTUS could reverse decades of DC corruption in a single term? I told everyone when Trump won it would take several Trumps to get this shit cleaned up. And that's with the swamp fighting back tooth and nail.
Now you’ve changed your point. Okay. Whatever.

You’re dreaming. No one is coming the clean this shit up.

I'm calling you out, go ahead give us your plan. All you do is poo poo on both sides so step up and take a shot.
Funny. You think the only choices in the Land of the Free are those offered by the Ds and Rs. The two criminal gangs.

Think. Try thinking.
Those are the only choices in America. Maybe you should live in the real world?
This should make you aware that something stinks, but apparently it doesn’t.

Stop supporting the criminal establishment run by psychopaths for their benefit.
I do not disagree but at this time the choice is binary.
Not really. There is little difference between the policies of Don and Joe.
Define little...border patrol agents will vehemently disagree with you.
Lol. Don did little to stop illegal immigration. He did talk about it though.

On war and peace, little change. Though I will grant you Joe is likely to be worse. He’s a warmongering neocon of 50 years. Looks like he is already ramping up things in Syria and Afghanistan.

Joe’s cabinet picks are all neocon, neolibs, and corporatists. Just like Don’s.

On jobs and helping Americans, little difference.
Again, border patrol agents will vehemently disagree with you despite your deflection. Border security and supporting ICE is important. Catch and Release is a stupid policy.
Meaningless, in the big scheme of things. Don’t get bogged down with small issues.
Therein lies the difference. To me it’s not a small issue. Illegals coming into America is a major issue IMO.
How are illegals effecting you personally?
 
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I voted for Trump because what's wrong with putting America and Americans first? Look at the Bidens, selling out America to foreign countries to line their own pockets THAT'S the establishment politicians in both parties.
The problem you have is Trump talked about nationalism but failed in every aspect to institute nationalism. He was incompetent in every way. He surrounded himself with establishment sycophants, who undermined him at every turn. He was too stupid or careless to see it.

In addition, you’ve got senile old Joe all wrong. He won’t sell out to foreign countries. He will sell out to the ultra wealthy oligarchs, the MIC, and Wall Street.

By all means tell us who the alternative was? Did you really think one Trump like POTUS could reverse decades of DC corruption in a single term? I told everyone when Trump won it would take several Trumps to get this shit cleaned up. And that's with the swamp fighting back tooth and nail.
Now you’ve changed your point. Okay. Whatever.

You’re dreaming. No one is coming the clean this shit up.

I'm calling you out, go ahead give us your plan. All you do is poo poo on both sides so step up and take a shot.
Funny. You think the only choices in the Land of the Free are those offered by the Ds and Rs. The two criminal gangs.

Think. Try thinking.
Those are the only choices in America. Maybe you should live in the real world?
This should make you aware that something stinks, but apparently it doesn’t.

Stop supporting the criminal establishment run by psychopaths for their benefit.
I do not disagree but at this time the choice is binary.
Not really. There is little difference between the policies of Don and Joe.
Define little...border patrol agents will vehemently disagree with you.
Lol. Don did little to stop illegal immigration. He did talk about it though.

On war and peace, little change. Though I will grant you Joe is likely to be worse. He’s a warmongering neocon of 50 years. Looks like he is already ramping up things in Syria and Afghanistan.

Joe’s cabinet picks are all neocon, neolibs, and corporatists. Just like Don’s.

On jobs and helping Americans, little difference.
Again, border patrol agents will vehemently disagree with you despite your deflection. Border security and supporting ICE is important. Catch and Release is a stupid policy.
Meaningless, in the big scheme of things. Don’t get bogged down with small issues.
Therein lies the difference. To me it’s not a small issue. Illegals coming into America is a major issue IMO.
I agree with you that illegal immigration is a big issue, but there are many other issues that are much bigger. At any rate Don did very little to stop illegal immigration, just as Joe will.
 
Illegals effect us greatly.
Hmm, somewhat. We are talking less than 5% of the workforce. Yes, there is impact, but i object to the fantasy that this is harming people like us and the other poster. They should just all get amnesty amd get on the books anyway.
 
Illegals effect us greatly.
Hmm, somewhat. We are talking less than 5% of the workforce. Yes, there is impact, but i object to the fantasy that this is harming people like us and the other poster. They should just all get amnesty amd get on the books anyway.
It rather obvious many illegals are contributing greatly to the nation. They do the dirty jobs for little compensation.

It’s also rather obvious why our criminally corrupt government and the two gangs have no intention of stopping illegal immigration, or making them legal citizens. One, the ultra wealthy and big corporations like the way they depress wages and two; illegal immigration has become a wedge issue the Oligarchs can use to continue dividing Americans.
 
Biden was not an option and trump's behaviors simply prevented me from voting for him. I sat it out and feel vindicated.
 
Biden was not an option and trump's behaviors simply prevented me from voting for him. I sat it out and feel vindicated.
Agreed. Too bad all Americans don’t sit out elections. That might put an end to this criminal treasonous government of ours.
 
I voted for Trump because what's wrong with putting America and Americans first? Look at the Bidens, selling out America to foreign countries to line their own pockets THAT'S the establishment politicians in both parties.
The problem you have is Trump talked about nationalism but failed in every aspect to institute nationalism. He was incompetent in every way. He surrounded himself with establishment sycophants, who undermined him at every turn. He was too stupid or careless to see it.

In addition, you’ve got senile old Joe all wrong. He won’t sell out to foreign countries. He will sell out to the ultra wealthy oligarchs, the MIC, and Wall Street.

By all means tell us who the alternative was? Did you really think one Trump like POTUS could reverse decades of DC corruption in a single term? I told everyone when Trump won it would take several Trumps to get this shit cleaned up. And that's with the swamp fighting back tooth and nail.
Now you’ve changed your point. Okay. Whatever.

You’re dreaming. No one is coming the clean this shit up.

I'm calling you out, go ahead give us your plan. All you do is poo poo on both sides so step up and take a shot.
Funny. You think the only choices in the Land of the Free are those offered by the Ds and Rs. The two criminal gangs.

Think. Try thinking.
Those are the only choices in America. Maybe you should live in the real world?
This should make you aware that something stinks, but apparently it doesn’t.

Stop supporting the criminal establishment run by psychopaths for their benefit.
I do not disagree but at this time the choice is binary.
Not really. There is little difference between the policies of Don and Joe.
Define little...border patrol agents will vehemently disagree with you.
Lol. Don did little to stop illegal immigration. He did talk about it though.

On war and peace, little change. Though I will grant you Joe is likely to be worse. He’s a warmongering neocon of 50 years. Looks like he is already ramping up things in Syria and Afghanistan.

Joe’s cabinet picks are all neocon, neolibs, and corporatists. Just like Don’s.

On jobs and helping Americans, little difference.
Again, border patrol agents will vehemently disagree with you despite your deflection. Border security and supporting ICE is important. Catch and Release is a stupid policy.
Meaningless, in the big scheme of things. Don’t get bogged down with small issues.
Therein lies the difference. To me it’s not a small issue. Illegals coming into America is a major issue IMO.
Why?
Why do you think? Take a guess....
 
I voted for Trump because what's wrong with putting America and Americans first? Look at the Bidens, selling out America to foreign countries to line their own pockets THAT'S the establishment politicians in both parties.
The problem you have is Trump talked about nationalism but failed in every aspect to institute nationalism. He was incompetent in every way. He surrounded himself with establishment sycophants, who undermined him at every turn. He was too stupid or careless to see it.

In addition, you’ve got senile old Joe all wrong. He won’t sell out to foreign countries. He will sell out to the ultra wealthy oligarchs, the MIC, and Wall Street.

By all means tell us who the alternative was? Did you really think one Trump like POTUS could reverse decades of DC corruption in a single term? I told everyone when Trump won it would take several Trumps to get this shit cleaned up. And that's with the swamp fighting back tooth and nail.
Now you’ve changed your point. Okay. Whatever.

You’re dreaming. No one is coming the clean this shit up.

I'm calling you out, go ahead give us your plan. All you do is poo poo on both sides so step up and take a shot.
Funny. You think the only choices in the Land of the Free are those offered by the Ds and Rs. The two criminal gangs.

Think. Try thinking.
Those are the only choices in America. Maybe you should live in the real world?
This should make you aware that something stinks, but apparently it doesn’t.

Stop supporting the criminal establishment run by psychopaths for their benefit.
I do not disagree but at this time the choice is binary.
Not really. There is little difference between the policies of Don and Joe.
Define little...border patrol agents will vehemently disagree with you.
Lol. Don did little to stop illegal immigration. He did talk about it though.

On war and peace, little change. Though I will grant you Joe is likely to be worse. He’s a warmongering neocon of 50 years. Looks like he is already ramping up things in Syria and Afghanistan.

Joe’s cabinet picks are all neocon, neolibs, and corporatists. Just like Don’s.

On jobs and helping Americans, little difference.
Again, border patrol agents will vehemently disagree with you despite your deflection. Border security and supporting ICE is important. Catch and Release is a stupid policy.
Meaningless, in the big scheme of things. Don’t get bogged down with small issues.
Therein lies the difference. To me it’s not a small issue. Illegals coming into America is a major issue IMO.
Why?
Why do you think? Take a guess....
Your life must be personally effected. Do share.
 













We don’t want the rest of America looking like this. The reports are indisputable. Every place leftists touch becomes awful. No wonder people are flocking to Fl, TN, NC and TX!

You are a trumper, not an independent. He was a giant failure: huge deficits, giant bailouts, riots, recession, most pandemic deaths, couldn’t hit 3% gdp growth, failed tariffs....

I have asked you this before you 10x and you always dodge. How does GDP growth impact your life? Be specific.

You don’t understand economics.

That is not an answer. I actually understand economics very well. So I ask again, how does GDP growth impact YOUR life? Be specific. Or admit you're just spewing News Entertainment talking points because you simply don't know.
 
I voted for Trump because what's wrong with putting America and Americans first? Look at the Bidens, selling out America to foreign countries to line their own pockets THAT'S the establishment politicians in both parties.
The problem you have is Trump talked about nationalism but failed in every aspect to institute nationalism. He was incompetent in every way. He surrounded himself with establishment sycophants, who undermined him at every turn. He was too stupid or careless to see it.

In addition, you’ve got senile old Joe all wrong. He won’t sell out to foreign countries. He will sell out to the ultra wealthy oligarchs, the MIC, and Wall Street.

By all means tell us who the alternative was? Did you really think one Trump like POTUS could reverse decades of DC corruption in a single term? I told everyone when Trump won it would take several Trumps to get this shit cleaned up. And that's with the swamp fighting back tooth and nail.
Now you’ve changed your point. Okay. Whatever.

You’re dreaming. No one is coming the clean this shit up.

I'm calling you out, go ahead give us your plan. All you do is poo poo on both sides so step up and take a shot.
Funny. You think the only choices in the Land of the Free are those offered by the Ds and Rs. The two criminal gangs.

Think. Try thinking.
Those are the only choices in America. Maybe you should live in the real world?
This should make you aware that something stinks, but apparently it doesn’t.

Stop supporting the criminal establishment run by psychopaths for their benefit.
I do not disagree but at this time the choice is binary.
Not really. There is little difference between the policies of Don and Joe.
Define little...border patrol agents will vehemently disagree with you.
Lol. Don did little to stop illegal immigration. He did talk about it though.

On war and peace, little change. Though I will grant you Joe is likely to be worse. He’s a warmongering neocon of 50 years. Looks like he is already ramping up things in Syria and Afghanistan.

Joe’s cabinet picks are all neocon, neolibs, and corporatists. Just like Don’s.

On jobs and helping Americans, little difference.
Again, border patrol agents will vehemently disagree with you despite your deflection. Border security and supporting ICE is important. Catch and Release is a stupid policy.
Meaningless, in the big scheme of things. Don’t get bogged down with small issues.
Therein lies the difference. To me it’s not a small issue. Illegals coming into America is a major issue IMO.
Why?
Why do you think? Take a guess....
Your life must be personally effected. Do share.

My parents came here as immigrants legally. Never took a dime from the Gov't. They had to apply, interview, get accepted, etc. Coming here illegally causes undue stress on our immigration system and slows down the path for those who want to come here legally. That is why, you stupid fat troll.
 
I voted for Trump because what's wrong with putting America and Americans first? Look at the Bidens, selling out America to foreign countries to line their own pockets THAT'S the establishment politicians in both parties.
The problem you have is Trump talked about nationalism but failed in every aspect to institute nationalism. He was incompetent in every way. He surrounded himself with establishment sycophants, who undermined him at every turn. He was too stupid or careless to see it.

In addition, you’ve got senile old Joe all wrong. He won’t sell out to foreign countries. He will sell out to the ultra wealthy oligarchs, the MIC, and Wall Street.

By all means tell us who the alternative was? Did you really think one Trump like POTUS could reverse decades of DC corruption in a single term? I told everyone when Trump won it would take several Trumps to get this shit cleaned up. And that's with the swamp fighting back tooth and nail.
Now you’ve changed your point. Okay. Whatever.

You’re dreaming. No one is coming the clean this shit up.

I'm calling you out, go ahead give us your plan. All you do is poo poo on both sides so step up and take a shot.
Funny. You think the only choices in the Land of the Free are those offered by the Ds and Rs. The two criminal gangs.

Think. Try thinking.
Those are the only choices in America. Maybe you should live in the real world?
This should make you aware that something stinks, but apparently it doesn’t.

Stop supporting the criminal establishment run by psychopaths for their benefit.
I do not disagree but at this time the choice is binary.
Not really. There is little difference between the policies of Don and Joe.
Define little...border patrol agents will vehemently disagree with you.
Lol. Don did little to stop illegal immigration. He did talk about it though.

On war and peace, little change. Though I will grant you Joe is likely to be worse. He’s a warmongering neocon of 50 years. Looks like he is already ramping up things in Syria and Afghanistan.

Joe’s cabinet picks are all neocon, neolibs, and corporatists. Just like Don’s.

On jobs and helping Americans, little difference.
Again, border patrol agents will vehemently disagree with you despite your deflection. Border security and supporting ICE is important. Catch and Release is a stupid policy.
Meaningless, in the big scheme of things. Don’t get bogged down with small issues.
Therein lies the difference. To me it’s not a small issue. Illegals coming into America is a major issue IMO.
I agree with you that illegal immigration is a big issue, but there are many other issues that are much bigger. At any rate Don did very little to stop illegal immigration, just as Joe will.
Not according to the Border Patrol agents. I take their word over yours.
 
I voted for Trump because what's wrong with putting America and Americans first? Look at the Bidens, selling out America to foreign countries to line their own pockets THAT'S the establishment politicians in both parties.
The problem you have is Trump talked about nationalism but failed in every aspect to institute nationalism. He was incompetent in every way. He surrounded himself with establishment sycophants, who undermined him at every turn. He was too stupid or careless to see it.

In addition, you’ve got senile old Joe all wrong. He won’t sell out to foreign countries. He will sell out to the ultra wealthy oligarchs, the MIC, and Wall Street.

By all means tell us who the alternative was? Did you really think one Trump like POTUS could reverse decades of DC corruption in a single term? I told everyone when Trump won it would take several Trumps to get this shit cleaned up. And that's with the swamp fighting back tooth and nail.
Now you’ve changed your point. Okay. Whatever.

You’re dreaming. No one is coming the clean this shit up.

I'm calling you out, go ahead give us your plan. All you do is poo poo on both sides so step up and take a shot.
Funny. You think the only choices in the Land of the Free are those offered by the Ds and Rs. The two criminal gangs.

Think. Try thinking.

Still waiting for your alternative candidate. Please don't say Gary Johnson.
 













We don’t want the rest of America looking like this. The reports are indisputable. Every place leftists touch becomes awful. No wonder people are flocking to Fl, TN, NC and TX!

You are a trumper, not an independent. He was a giant failure: huge deficits, giant bailouts, riots, recession, most pandemic deaths, couldn’t hit 3% gdp growth, failed tariffs....

I have asked you this before you 10x and you always dodge. How does GDP growth impact your life? Be specific.

You don’t understand economics.

That is not an answer. I actually understand economics very well. So I ask again, how does GDP growth impact YOUR life? Be specific. Or admit you're just spewing News Entertainment talking points because you simply don't know.

It doesn’t effect anyone’s personal life by definition. You would know that if you understood economics. The unemployment rate doesn’t effect me either, but it’s important economically for the country. Your question is just stupid.
 
I voted for Trump because what's wrong with putting America and Americans first? Look at the Bidens, selling out America to foreign countries to line their own pockets THAT'S the establishment politicians in both parties.
The problem you have is Trump talked about nationalism but failed in every aspect to institute nationalism. He was incompetent in every way. He surrounded himself with establishment sycophants, who undermined him at every turn. He was too stupid or careless to see it.

In addition, you’ve got senile old Joe all wrong. He won’t sell out to foreign countries. He will sell out to the ultra wealthy oligarchs, the MIC, and Wall Street.

By all means tell us who the alternative was? Did you really think one Trump like POTUS could reverse decades of DC corruption in a single term? I told everyone when Trump won it would take several Trumps to get this shit cleaned up. And that's with the swamp fighting back tooth and nail.
Now you’ve changed your point. Okay. Whatever.

You’re dreaming. No one is coming the clean this shit up.

I'm calling you out, go ahead give us your plan. All you do is poo poo on both sides so step up and take a shot.
Funny. You think the only choices in the Land of the Free are those offered by the Ds and Rs. The two criminal gangs.

Think. Try thinking.
Those are the only choices in America. Maybe you should live in the real world?
This should make you aware that something stinks, but apparently it doesn’t.

Stop supporting the criminal establishment run by psychopaths for their benefit.
I do not disagree but at this time the choice is binary.
Not really. There is little difference between the policies of Don and Joe.
Define little...border patrol agents will vehemently disagree with you.
Lol. Don did little to stop illegal immigration. He did talk about it though.

On war and peace, little change. Though I will grant you Joe is likely to be worse. He’s a warmongering neocon of 50 years. Looks like he is already ramping up things in Syria and Afghanistan.

Joe’s cabinet picks are all neocon, neolibs, and corporatists. Just like Don’s.

On jobs and helping Americans, little difference.
Again, border patrol agents will vehemently disagree with you despite your deflection. Border security and supporting ICE is important. Catch and Release is a stupid policy.
Meaningless, in the big scheme of things. Don’t get bogged down with small issues.
Therein lies the difference. To me it’s not a small issue. Illegals coming into America is a major issue IMO.
Why?
Why do you think? Take a guess....
Your life must be personally effected. Do share.

My parents came here as immigrants legally. Never took a dime from the Gov't. They had to apply, interview, get accepted, etc. Coming here illegally causes undue stress on our immigration system and slows down the path for those who want to come here legally. That is why, you stupid fat troll.
None of that effects you personally. Try again.
 
I voted for Trump because what's wrong with putting America and Americans first? Look at the Bidens, selling out America to foreign countries to line their own pockets THAT'S the establishment politicians in both parties.
The problem you have is Trump talked about nationalism but failed in every aspect to institute nationalism. He was incompetent in every way. He surrounded himself with establishment sycophants, who undermined him at every turn. He was too stupid or careless to see it.

In addition, you’ve got senile old Joe all wrong. He won’t sell out to foreign countries. He will sell out to the ultra wealthy oligarchs, the MIC, and Wall Street.

By all means tell us who the alternative was? Did you really think one Trump like POTUS could reverse decades of DC corruption in a single term? I told everyone when Trump won it would take several Trumps to get this shit cleaned up. And that's with the swamp fighting back tooth and nail.
Now you’ve changed your point. Okay. Whatever.

You’re dreaming. No one is coming the clean this shit up.

I'm calling you out, go ahead give us your plan. All you do is poo poo on both sides so step up and take a shot.
Funny. You think the only choices in the Land of the Free are those offered by the Ds and Rs. The two criminal gangs.

Think. Try thinking.
Those are the only choices in America. Maybe you should live in the real world?
This should make you aware that something stinks, but apparently it doesn’t.

Stop supporting the criminal establishment run by psychopaths for their benefit.
I do not disagree but at this time the choice is binary.
Not really. There is little difference between the policies of Don and Joe.
Define little...border patrol agents will vehemently disagree with you.
Lol. Don did little to stop illegal immigration. He did talk about it though.

On war and peace, little change. Though I will grant you Joe is likely to be worse. He’s a warmongering neocon of 50 years. Looks like he is already ramping up things in Syria and Afghanistan.

Joe’s cabinet picks are all neocon, neolibs, and corporatists. Just like Don’s.

On jobs and helping Americans, little difference.
Again, border patrol agents will vehemently disagree with you despite your deflection. Border security and supporting ICE is important. Catch and Release is a stupid policy.
Meaningless, in the big scheme of things. Don’t get bogged down with small issues.
Therein lies the difference. To me it’s not a small issue. Illegals coming into America is a major issue IMO.
I agree with you that illegal immigration is a big issue, but there are many other issues that are much bigger. At any rate Don did very little to stop illegal immigration, just as Joe will.
Not according to the Border Patrol agents. I take their word over yours.
How many you talking to?
 

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