Why is Bernie Sanders hated.

[HappyJoy]

The study was about how shrimp (an important food source) responds to changing water quality. The treadmill was a small portion of that study and only cost about $1k.

Stop being a blind lemming and do some real research.

Shrimp is an important food source, if you are a whale. But why should the government be involved? Sure they should help protect the environment from polluters but we don't need them to make study after study on things that won't make a difference in the real world. There are countless examples, if you can't see them you are part of the problem.

That's your answer? Why wouldn't we have study after study on environmental and economic impacts that affect our country? It would be irresponsible not to.

Enjoy your ridiculous little "shrimp treadmill" which you think cost millions, didn't even reply about how that is a complete lie.

You are fucked up. I didn't even mention a treadmill. I responded to your claim that shrimp is an important food source. I haven't had it in years. Testing water and air is one thing, creating cottage industries in how to spend money to keep people employed is another.

This came up as alleged proof that the government wasted massive amounts of money putting shrimp on a treadmill. I can't help it if you missed the point.

 

[Iceweasel]

The study was about how shrimp (an important food source) responds to changing water quality. The treadmill was a small portion of that study and only cost about $1k.

Stop being a blind lemming and do some real research.

Shrimp is an important food source, if you are a whale. But why should the government be involved? Sure they should help protect the environment from polluters but we don't need them to make study after study on things that won't make a difference in the real world. There are countless examples, if you can't see them you are part of the problem.

That's your answer? Why wouldn't we have study after study on environmental and economic impacts that affect our country? It would be irresponsible not to.

Enjoy your ridiculous little "shrimp treadmill" which you think cost millions, didn't even reply about how that is a complete lie.

You are fucked up. I didn't even mention a treadmill. I responded to your claim that shrimp is an important food source. I haven't had it in years. Testing water and air is one thing, creating cottage industries in how to spend money to keep people employed is another.

This came up as alleged proof that the government wasted massive amounts of money putting shrimp on a treadmill. I can't help it if you missed the point.

I pointed out your stupidity in saying I thought it cost millions when I said nothing about it. I can't help it if you're a moron. The real question is why do morons LOVE spending so much of other people's money?

 

[HappyJoy]

The study was about how shrimp (an important food source) responds to changing water quality. The treadmill was a small portion of that study and only cost about $1k.

Stop being a blind lemming and do some real research.

Shrimp is an important food source, if you are a whale. But why should the government be involved? Sure they should help protect the environment from polluters but we don't need them to make study after study on things that won't make a difference in the real world. There are countless examples, if you can't see them you are part of the problem.

That's your answer? Why wouldn't we have study after study on environmental and economic impacts that affect our country? It would be irresponsible not to.

Enjoy your ridiculous little "shrimp treadmill" which you think cost millions, didn't even reply about how that is a complete lie.

You are fucked up. I didn't even mention a treadmill. I responded to your claim that shrimp is an important food source. I haven't had it in years. Testing water and air is one thing, creating cottage industries in how to spend money to keep people employed is another.

This came up as alleged proof that the government wasted massive amounts of money putting shrimp on a treadmill. I can't help it if you missed the point.

I pointed out your stupidity in saying I thought it cost millions when I said nothing about it. I can't help it if you're a moron. The real question is why do morons LOVE spending so much of other people's money?

You don't even understand why the study was even done, you can't even fathom the importance of shrimp and other sea life, Einstein.

But here you are with some sort of opinion.

 

[Iceweasel]

Shrimp is an important food source, if you are a whale. But why should the government be involved? Sure they should help protect the environment from polluters but we don't need them to make study after study on things that won't make a difference in the real world. There are countless examples, if you can't see them you are part of the problem.

That's your answer? Why wouldn't we have study after study on environmental and economic impacts that affect our country? It would be irresponsible not to.

Enjoy your ridiculous little "shrimp treadmill" which you think cost millions, didn't even reply about how that is a complete lie.

You are fucked up. I didn't even mention a treadmill. I responded to your claim that shrimp is an important food source. I haven't had it in years. Testing water and air is one thing, creating cottage industries in how to spend money to keep people employed is another.

This came up as alleged proof that the government wasted massive amounts of money putting shrimp on a treadmill. I can't help it if you missed the point.

I pointed out your stupidity in saying I thought it cost millions when I said nothing about it. I can't help it if you're a moron. The real question is why do morons LOVE spending so much of other people's money?

You don't even understand why the study was even done, you can't even fathom the importance of shrimp and other sea life, Einstein.

But here you are with some sort of opinion.

I called you on calling it an important food source. That's bullshit. Don't try to make your stupid comments about me.

You don't even understand my point, which is understandable. You gotta work with what you have.

 

[HappyJoy]

That's your answer? Why wouldn't we have study after study on environmental and economic impacts that affect our country? It would be irresponsible not to.

Enjoy your ridiculous little "shrimp treadmill" which you think cost millions, didn't even reply about how that is a complete lie.

You are fucked up. I didn't even mention a treadmill. I responded to your claim that shrimp is an important food source. I haven't had it in years. Testing water and air is one thing, creating cottage industries in how to spend money to keep people employed is another.

This came up as alleged proof that the government wasted massive amounts of money putting shrimp on a treadmill. I can't help it if you missed the point.

I pointed out your stupidity in saying I thought it cost millions when I said nothing about it. I can't help it if you're a moron. The real question is why do morons LOVE spending so much of other people's money?

You don't even understand why the study was even done, you can't even fathom the importance of shrimp and other sea life, Einstein.

But here you are with some sort of opinion.

I called you on calling it an important food source. That's bullshit. Don't try to make your stupid comments about me.

You don't even understand my point, which is understandable. You gotta work with what you have.

There you go again, not understanding the importance shrimp plays in our ecosystem and separately the fishing industry.

 

[amrchaos]

The most common complaint I hear about Sanders is that he is going to tax you to death and give everyone free stuff.

1st of all, that's an oxymoron. If I pay more in taxes how are the things I get in return considered free.

Now to the specific complaint. The Sanders camp put out a press release outlining whose taxes he would raise and by how much.

The top marginal rate would increase from 39.6% to 52%. That seems like a substantial amount. No one pays the top marginal rate. After deductions and loopholes, your effective rate is much lower.

Example, on mitt Romney's 2011 tax form he payed 13% in federal tax even though he was in the top bracket.

DONT CONFUSE MARGINAL TAX RATES WITH EFFECTIVE TAX RATES.

He also wants a 0.5% tax on stock speculation.

In context this isn't near as dramatic as we are lead to believe.

Let's remember in the 3 decades after WW2 the top marginal rate was between 72%-90%. That's a HUGE tax rate and yet our economy experienced massive growth. So, empirically Bernie's tax rate would be much lower than the tax rate during our period of greatest economic growth.

His final tax would be to fund his Medicare for all plan. A 9% increase.

Now let's put that in context. I make $19 an hour and before Obama care went into effect I was paying $150 a week for private insurance with a $3000 deductible and $100 copays. Under Bernie's plan my taxes would increase by $70 a week, so do the math. $70 a week with no deductible or copay versus $150 a week plus copay and deductible.

Seems like Bernie's plan is cheaper than even PRE OBAMA insurance.

Now I know that no one likes discussing issues in context but there you go.

Slight increases in taxes for a substantial return.

College tuition, infrastructure, affordable healthcare. Yeah I will pay a little more for these things.

another winner ! this is a big thing. democrats change the names of things and espouse "don't worry, your govenment knows what you need, don't be concerned so much with the process. let's make the laws first, so we can run them by the people. bernie sanders glosses thing over, and his facts are wrong. i've known the man for decades, he glosses things over. i am stunned that benghazi came up in the debate.

if the media is bringing it up that's amazing and great, we will debate. obama has lied about or cooked just about every number in our economy. unemployment topping the list. it's a democrat house of cards about to collapse.

under Trump you leadership will get to keep your paycheck. you won't have to pay for shrimp on a treadmill, or give hillary's polster (mark penn) six million dollars of stimumus money. how that was legal, i'll never know. i call it stealing.





The famous shrimp treadmill study, conducted by researchers at Pacific University and College of Charleston, came under scrutiny during debates over the federal deficit and wasteful spending in 2011.

Yes, the shrimp treadmill research cost taxpayers more than $3 million over the course of a decade. That includes a a $559,681 grant for research into "Impaired Metabolism and Performance in Crustaceans Exposed to Bacteria."


socialism is wrong for vermont, it's wrong for America. if the democrat socialists lose, taxes will go down, business will go up again.

Here it goes again!!

You really need to go into the research concerning 'Shrimps on the Treadmill".

Turns out, there is scientific merit to the over all project for studying how Shrimps move under the surface of the water--hence the "treadmill" experiment. Plus, the 3 million dollars was spent on larger project that involved this as only one small part!

The reason a politician presented just the "shrimp on treadmill" part because, by itself, it seems to make little sense. Thus making it easier to justify defunding science research at will.

But it does make sense in terms of the underlying project which was editted out of the discussion.

In any case, I do agree with your general argument about "Socialism"

 

[Iceweasel]

You are fucked up. I didn't even mention a treadmill. I responded to your claim that shrimp is an important food source. I haven't had it in years. Testing water and air is one thing, creating cottage industries in how to spend money to keep people employed is another.

This came up as alleged proof that the government wasted massive amounts of money putting shrimp on a treadmill. I can't help it if you missed the point.

I pointed out your stupidity in saying I thought it cost millions when I said nothing about it. I can't help it if you're a moron. The real question is why do morons LOVE spending so much of other people's money?

You don't even understand why the study was even done, you can't even fathom the importance of shrimp and other sea life, Einstein.

But here you are with some sort of opinion.

I called you on calling it an important food source. That's bullshit. Don't try to make your stupid comments about me.

You don't even understand my point, which is understandable. You gotta work with what you have.

There you go again, not understanding the importance shrimp plays in our ecosystem and separately the fishing industry.

I said they were important to whales as a food source. What part of that was too big for you?

 

[HappyJoy]

This came up as alleged proof that the government wasted massive amounts of money putting shrimp on a treadmill. I can't help it if you missed the point.

I pointed out your stupidity in saying I thought it cost millions when I said nothing about it. I can't help it if you're a moron. The real question is why do morons LOVE spending so much of other people's money?

You don't even understand why the study was even done, you can't even fathom the importance of shrimp and other sea life, Einstein.

But here you are with some sort of opinion.

I called you on calling it an important food source. That's bullshit. Don't try to make your stupid comments about me.

You don't even understand my point, which is understandable. You gotta work with what you have.

There you go again, not understanding the importance shrimp plays in our ecosystem and separately the fishing industry.

I said they were important to whales as a food source. What part of that was too big for you?

Not just important to whales, do you know how a fragile ecosystem works? Again, let's also not forget the industry as well.

Anyway, I get it, you don't care about shrimp, but it's not about you.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

I don't hate Bernie I just believe he is a naive nutbag.

 

[skookerasbil]

Bizzare thread.......nobody on the right hates Sanders........to them he is irrelevant!! Its that simple......nobody is getting angst over somebody that is unelectable.

 

[Bassman007]

The most common complaint I hear about Sanders is that he is going to tax you to death and give everyone free stuff.

1st of all, that's an oxymoron. If I pay more in taxes how are the things I get in return considered free.

Now to the specific complaint. The Sanders camp put out a press release outlining whose taxes he would raise and by how much.

The top marginal rate would increase from 39.6% to 52%. That seems like a substantial amount. No one pays the top marginal rate. After deductions and loopholes, your effective rate is much lower.

Example, on mitt Romney's 2011 tax form he payed 13% in federal tax even though he was in the top bracket.

DONT CONFUSE MARGINAL TAX RATES WITH EFFECTIVE TAX RATES.

He also wants a 0.5% tax on stock speculation.

In context this isn't near as dramatic as we are lead to believe.

Let's remember in the 3 decades after WW2 the top marginal rate was between 72%-90%. That's a HUGE tax rate and yet our economy experienced massive growth. So, empirically Bernie's tax rate would be much lower than the tax rate during our period of greatest economic growth.

His final tax would be to fund his Medicare for all plan. A 9% increase.

Now let's put that in context. I make $19 an hour and before Obama care went into effect I was paying $150 a week for private insurance with a $3000 deductible and $100 copays. Under Bernie's plan my taxes would increase by $70 a week, so do the math. $70 a week with no deductible or copay versus $150 a week plus copay and deductible.

Seems like Bernie's plan is cheaper than even PRE OBAMA insurance.

Now I know that no one likes discussing issues in context but there you go.

Slight increases in taxes for a substantial return.

College tuition, infrastructure, affordable healthcare. Yeah I will pay a little more for these things.

Because he is a commie

 

[Militants]

Bernie Sanders is nots hated.

 

[washamericom]

The study was about how shrimp (an important food source) responds to changing water quality. The treadmill was a small portion of that study and only cost about $1k.

Stop being a blind lemming and do some real research.

Shrimp is an important food source, if you are a whale. But why should the government be involved? Sure they should help protect the environment from polluters but we don't need them to make study after study on things that won't make a difference in the real world. There are countless examples, if you can't see them you are part of the problem.

That's your answer? Why wouldn't we have study after study on environmental and economic impacts that affect our country? It would be irresponsible not to.

Enjoy your ridiculous little "shrimp treadmill" which you think cost millions, didn't even reply about how that is a complete lie.

You are fucked up. I didn't even mention a treadmill. I responded to your claim that shrimp is an important food source. I haven't had it in years. Testing water and air is one thing, creating cottage industries in how to spend money to keep people employed is another.

This came up as alleged proof that the government wasted massive amounts of money putting shrimp on a treadmill. I can't help it if you missed the point.

I pointed out your stupidity in saying I thought it cost millions when I said nothing about it. I can't help it if you're a moron. The real question is why do morons LOVE spending so much of other people's money?

not a new complaint... you are exactly correct sir:

Benjamin Franklin > Quotes > Quotable Quote

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― Benjamin Franklin

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join or die...

 

[HappyJoy]

Shrimp is an important food source, if you are a whale. But why should the government be involved? Sure they should help protect the environment from polluters but we don't need them to make study after study on things that won't make a difference in the real world. There are countless examples, if you can't see them you are part of the problem.

That's your answer? Why wouldn't we have study after study on environmental and economic impacts that affect our country? It would be irresponsible not to.

Enjoy your ridiculous little "shrimp treadmill" which you think cost millions, didn't even reply about how that is a complete lie.

You are fucked up. I didn't even mention a treadmill. I responded to your claim that shrimp is an important food source. I haven't had it in years. Testing water and air is one thing, creating cottage industries in how to spend money to keep people employed is another.

This came up as alleged proof that the government wasted massive amounts of money putting shrimp on a treadmill. I can't help it if you missed the point.

I pointed out your stupidity in saying I thought it cost millions when I said nothing about it. I can't help it if you're a moron. The real question is why do morons LOVE spending so much of other people's money?

not a new complaint... you are exactly correct sir:

Benjamin Franklin > Quotes > Quotable Quote

“When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.”

― Benjamin Franklin

Read more quotes from Benjamin Franklin


join or die...

It's a fake quote.

 

[Disir]

He's not hated. He's feared. He knows that about ninety percent of these turkeys are on the take. So, they come out with a shitload of propaganda that might have worked in the 80s but sure as hell is not working now.

what propaganda?

Pinko Commie crap and a zillion threads on every dick-tator known to mankind. The Stalin rodeo. Pureness of free market capitalism.

 

[Agit8r]

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