Why is Building the Wall Wrong?

[bripat9643]

Most people that cross illegally for the first time hire someone to help, usually a coyote. Border towns are filled with them. What equipment is needed they will have it.

Walls like fences are only effective if you have guards nearby. Stores in small border towns stock whatever you need to make it across the border.

If they can afford all that, they probably ain't looking to escape Mexico for a better life, or can afford to apply for immigration legally. Meantime the wall will have increased electronic surveillance so patrols know where to go.

A handful of tools costing under a grand will defeat most any wall. On a good day, the police here can answer a call within twenty minutes. Along all those miles of border, that's all the coyotes need to get their human cargo beyond the wall.

So you never dug dirt?

You stupid fuck, go pick up a shovel and start digging.. let's see how far you get.

Start digging, you idiot..you need huge man power and money..

It's obvious you never dug a hole in your life


.

My father and I once dug an 80 foot deep well by hand. Your ignorance is now beginning to show.

How long did that take?

 

[toobfreak]

You call me an idiot

That's because you are an idiot and a jive MFer too. So far you have not responded to a single question or challenge to explain or justify any of your wild claims. You're so damned sure a wall can't work despite it working everywhere else you're not willing to even try. You totally deny the vast cost and potential threat of mass illegal invasions by unknown and unvetted people across thousands of miles of border that the wall would largely save us from while claiming the whole world hates us and is out to get us. Don't you know that with cameras, electronic screening and vibration detectors, we can monitor every inch of that wall if we choose?!

Europe built a high speed train at huge cost to solve a big problem. Our big problem to solve is our wide open southern border. Everywhere I go I see foreign riff raff that has no money and can't even speak English. They are not wanted. Time to cut off the supply route of cheap labor and cheap democrat votes. I don't need these low lifes picking my next president.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

How effective do think a prison wall would be if the guards were say 5 or 10 miles away. That's the situation you would have on most of the border. All it takes to go over a wall is a ladder and a couple of minutes.

First problem is paying for the cost of a ladder that can reach that height. Second problem is getting the ladder to the wall undetected. Third problem is getting on to the 40 foot wall undetected. Fourth problem is how to get down from the top of the wall. Fifth problem is getting to the other side undetected. The more people involved or using the ladder, the easier they are detected.

The wall will likely not be there alone. We will still have boarder security in place, drones and even cameras.

Most people that cross illegally for the first time hire someone to help, usually a coyote. Border towns are filled with them. What equipment is needed they will have it.

Walls like fences are only effective if you have guards nearby. Stores in small border towns stock whatever you need to make it across the border.

If they can afford all that, they probably ain't looking to escape Mexico for a better life, or can afford to apply for immigration legally. Meantime the wall will have increased electronic surveillance so patrols know where to go.

A handful of tools costing under a grand will defeat most any wall. On a good day, the police here can answer a call within twenty minutes. Along all those miles of border, that's all the coyotes need to get their human cargo beyond the wall.

Handful? A grand? I know my tools. Please give us a list of these tools that you say can defeat most any wall with.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AX4AWO6/?tag=ff0d01-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079FBDLSQ/?tag=ff0d01-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0757944LV/?tag=ff0d01-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006ZB97ES/?tag=ff0d01-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FZRVCQI/?tag=ff0d01-20

You'll begin to get the idea.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Most people that cross illegally for the first time hire someone to help, usually a coyote. Border towns are filled with them. What equipment is needed they will have it.

Walls like fences are only effective if you have guards nearby. Stores in small border towns stock whatever you need to make it across the border.

You people are all over this topic telling us how a wall won't work. Well if that's the case, then why does it bother you if we built it? After all, this is what you want.......don't you? The ability for these people to easily cross over?

So we can say we are at an agreement. The wall won't work, so put it up to make us happy and the illegals will still be flowing through like water, and that will make you people happy.

Everybody's happy. What a great way to start the new year.

YOU are the one who is all over the place. For example when I talked about the Americans who were on drugs as a reason that we have to fix that, you wanted a debate as whether or not ADD / ADHD were real conditions.

If you had an IQ higher than your shoe size, you would understand that I enjoy the Freedoms and Liberties our forefathers fought, bled and died for.

If you eliminate the incentives for foreigners to come here, they won't enter the U.S. That is NOT what you're after. You are on the side that had a problem with the Americans Right to own private property. You and your ilk have been attacking it ever since this little immigration battle began. You are on the side invoking the great successes of communist countries, dictatorships and countries at war with these nutty walls. You hate private property Rights, Liberty, and you have no use for the free market. I'm against the socialist utopia you are working toward.

Insofar as the immigrants, if you went back to the way America was designed to work, you would not have a problem with them. And, son, you've spent so much time calling people names, I realize that you will be too damn stupid to read between the lines and understand that I gave you an unequivocal answer to your question about my attitude toward immigration and what I expect out of EVERY foreigner.

Who have I called a name unprovoked? Nobody. If anything, it's you hurling the names. I don't draw first blood on message boards. Your personal insults like the one you just posted is a perfect example.

The only people losing freedoms by a wall are the invaders themselves. Unless you are an illegal yourself, then you're not going to lose one freedom and neither will I. And if the wall is built and you are losing freedom, write back and I will support you in tearing down the wall.

You mentioned several times you are an elderly person. I think what you should do is keep a notepad by your computer, and write down key things people write. Because it's getting quite annoying when you tell me about things I said that I never even mentioned, things like insulting people when I haven't unless I was returning an insult, things you think I'm against like property rights when I never brought up the subject, and that way you at least won't be called a liar so often.

I've never initiated any name calling. And since you're making the allegation, what name did I call you?

If you had an IQ higher than your shoe size, you would understand that

See? Crap like that; personal insults. I didn't say one thing to you on that level for you to respond that way. Like I said, you stated you were an elderly person, and as people age, they get more confused. That's why I suggested that perhaps you keep a note pad and write things down so you at least know who said what.

You continue to accuse me of "being all over the place" for responding to issues YOU inquire about

You continue to want to cover questions asked and answered

You continue to post things you think are authoritative without providing any verifiable references save of those from socialist and / or partisan propaganda sites

You ignore the views of others even when such views are based upon legal principles, verifiable non-partisan studies, and plain old common sense

You continue to promote the political ideologies of totalitarian governments, communists, and socialists.

At some point you merit an equal response.

 

[danielpalos]

You call me an idiot

That's because you are an idiot and a jive MFer too. So far you have not responded to a single question or challenge to explain or justify any of your wild claims. You're so damned sure a wall can't work despite it working everywhere else you're not willing to even try. You totally deny the vast cost and potential threat of mass illegal invasions by unknown and unvetted people across thousands of miles of border that the wall would largely save us from while claiming the whole world hates us and is out to get us. Don't you know that with cameras, electronic screening and vibration detectors, we can monitor every inch of that wall if we choose?!

Europe built a high speed train at huge cost to solve a big problem. Our big problem to solve is our wide open southern border. Everywhere I go I see foreign riff raff that has no money and can't even speak English. They are not wanted. Time to cut off the supply route of cheap labor and cheap democrat votes. I don't need these low lifes picking my next president.

Upgrading Ellis Island is more cost effective.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

And I'd say you're standing in front of a mirror. If you take a long and objective hard look, it took you a long time of calling me names and badgering me to get me to respond to your lame attempts at Internet intimidation.

YOU obviously hate the Constitution and everything it stands for. If you had a point, you'd make it. You have ZERO knowledge about how our laws work; you've never read a civics book or law book. You're clueless when it comes to history. You've spent the bulk of your life pecking a keyboard in places where equally misguided people think you're the man, but when you are confronted with those people that called you out, all you can do is come back with petty insults and allegations that, once you come off that high, will be embarrassed to say in public and you will even be thanking God your real name isn't attached to such crap here.

Huh?

So i should be for anarchy as you suggest..


Dude keep talking ..I will fuck you up..

If that is a threat, you should take it to PM. Idle threats don't impress me. Again, on the celebration day of the birth of Christ, be glad you are not making the statements you are making in a public crowd. A lot of people would not find it tolerable. You have a Right to Freedom of the Press and you should be held accountable when you abuse the Right.

Uhm so you are anti fag?


Of course so..

Are YOU a "fag?"

3 kids and 5 step children why would you suggest that paid troll?

I suggest nothing. You brought the issue up. Are you paid to post the filth you fill this board with?

 

[Porter Rockwell]

If they can afford all that, they probably ain't looking to escape Mexico for a better life, or can afford to apply for immigration legally. Meantime the wall will have increased electronic surveillance so patrols know where to go.

A handful of tools costing under a grand will defeat most any wall. On a good day, the police here can answer a call within twenty minutes. Along all those miles of border, that's all the coyotes need to get their human cargo beyond the wall.

So you never dug dirt?

You stupid fuck, go pick up a shovel and start digging.. let's see how far you get.

Start digging, you idiot..you need huge man power and money..

It's obvious you never dug a hole in your life


.

My father and I once dug an 80 foot deep well by hand. Your ignorance is now beginning to show.

How long did that take?

It's been so many years ago, but four Mexicans could have done it in a fourth of the time it took us.

 

[Wyatt earp]

My

Huh?

So i should be for anarchy as you suggest..


Dude keep talking ..I will fuck you up..

If that is a threat, you should take it to PM. Idle threats don't impress me. Again, on the celebration day of the birth of Christ, be glad you are not making the statements you are making in a public crowd. A lot of people would not find it tolerable. You have a Right to Freedom of the Press and you should be held accountable when you abuse the Right.

Uhm so you are anti fag?


Of course so..

Are YOU a "fag?"

3 kids and 5 step children why would you suggest that paid troll?

I suggest nothing. You brought the issue up. Are you paid to post the filth you fill this board with?

It's obvious you logged on a few weeks ago with no soul

 

[Wyatt earp]

My

If that is a threat, you should take it to PM. Idle threats don't impress me. Again, on the celebration day of the birth of Christ, be glad you are not making the statements you are making in a public crowd. A lot of people would not find it tolerable. You have a Right to Freedom of the Press and you should be held accountable when you abuse the Right.

Uhm so you are anti fag?


Of course so..

Are YOU a "fag?"

3 kids and 5 step children why would you suggest that paid troll?

I suggest nothing. You brought the issue up. Are you paid to post the filth you fill this board with?

It's obvious you logged on a few weeks ago with no soul

The only goal you have is fucking propaganda..

 

[Wyatt earp]

You people are all over this topic telling us how a wall won't work. Well if that's the case, then why does it bother you if we built it? After all, this is what you want.......don't you? The ability for these people to easily cross over?

So we can say we are at an agreement. The wall won't work, so put it up to make us happy and the illegals will still be flowing through like water, and that will make you people happy.

Everybody's happy. What a great way to start the new year.

YOU are the one who is all over the place. For example when I talked about the Americans who were on drugs as a reason that we have to fix that, you wanted a debate as whether or not ADD / ADHD were real conditions.

If you had an IQ higher than your shoe size, you would understand that I enjoy the Freedoms and Liberties our forefathers fought, bled and died for.

If you eliminate the incentives for foreigners to come here, they won't enter the U.S. That is NOT what you're after. You are on the side that had a problem with the Americans Right to own private property. You and your ilk have been attacking it ever since this little immigration battle began. You are on the side invoking the great successes of communist countries, dictatorships and countries at war with these nutty walls. You hate private property Rights, Liberty, and you have no use for the free market. I'm against the socialist utopia you are working toward.

Insofar as the immigrants, if you went back to the way America was designed to work, you would not have a problem with them. And, son, you've spent so much time calling people names, I realize that you will be too damn stupid to read between the lines and understand that I gave you an unequivocal answer to your question about my attitude toward immigration and what I expect out of EVERY foreigner.

Who have I called a name unprovoked? Nobody. If anything, it's you hurling the names. I don't draw first blood on message boards. Your personal insults like the one you just posted is a perfect example.

The only people losing freedoms by a wall are the invaders themselves. Unless you are an illegal yourself, then you're not going to lose one freedom and neither will I. And if the wall is built and you are losing freedom, write back and I will support you in tearing down the wall.

You mentioned several times you are an elderly person. I think what you should do is keep a notepad by your computer, and write down key things people write. Because it's getting quite annoying when you tell me about things I said that I never even mentioned, things like insulting people when I haven't unless I was returning an insult, things you think I'm against like property rights when I never brought up the subject, and that way you at least won't be called a liar so often.

I've never initiated any name calling. And since you're making the allegation, what name did I call you?

If you had an IQ higher than your shoe size, you would understand that

See? Crap like that; personal insults. I didn't say one thing to you on that level for you to respond that way. Like I said, you stated you were an elderly person, and as people age, they get more confused. That's why I suggested that perhaps you keep a note pad and write things down so you at least know who said what.

You continue to accuse me of "being all over the place" for responding to issues YOU inquire about

You continue to want to cover questions asked and answered

You continue to post things you think are authoritative without providing any verifiable references save of those from socialist and / or partisan propaganda sites

You ignore the views of others even when such views are based upon legal principles, verifiable non-partisan studies, and plain old common sense

You continue to promote the political ideologies of totalitarian governments, communists, and socialists.

At some point you merit an equal response.

We know you are a paid troll..


Give it up fucker.

 

[Wyatt earp]

You people are all over this topic telling us how a wall won't work. Well if that's the case, then why does it bother you if we built it? After all, this is what you want.......don't you? The ability for these people to easily cross over?

So we can say we are at an agreement. The wall won't work, so put it up to make us happy and the illegals will still be flowing through like water, and that will make you people happy.

Everybody's happy. What a great way to start the new year.

YOU are the one who is all over the place. For example when I talked about the Americans who were on drugs as a reason that we have to fix that, you wanted a debate as whether or not ADD / ADHD were real conditions.

If you had an IQ higher than your shoe size, you would understand that I enjoy the Freedoms and Liberties our forefathers fought, bled and died for.

If you eliminate the incentives for foreigners to come here, they won't enter the U.S. That is NOT what you're after. You are on the side that had a problem with the Americans Right to own private property. You and your ilk have been attacking it ever since this little immigration battle began. You are on the side invoking the great successes of communist countries, dictatorships and countries at war with these nutty walls. You hate private property Rights, Liberty, and you have no use for the free market. I'm against the socialist utopia you are working toward.

Insofar as the immigrants, if you went back to the way America was designed to work, you would not have a problem with them. And, son, you've spent so much time calling people names, I realize that you will be too damn stupid to read between the lines and understand that I gave you an unequivocal answer to your question about my attitude toward immigration and what I expect out of EVERY foreigner.

Who have I called a name unprovoked? Nobody. If anything, it's you hurling the names. I don't draw first blood on message boards. Your personal insults like the one you just posted is a perfect example.

The only people losing freedoms by a wall are the invaders themselves. Unless you are an illegal yourself, then you're not going to lose one freedom and neither will I. And if the wall is built and you are losing freedom, write back and I will support you in tearing down the wall.

You mentioned several times you are an elderly person. I think what you should do is keep a notepad by your computer, and write down key things people write. Because it's getting quite annoying when you tell me about things I said that I never even mentioned, things like insulting people when I haven't unless I was returning an insult, things you think I'm against like property rights when I never brought up the subject, and that way you at least won't be called a liar so often.

I've never initiated any name calling. And since you're making the allegation, what name did I call you?

If you had an IQ higher than your shoe size, you would understand that

See? Crap like that; personal insults. I didn't say one thing to you on that level for you to respond that way. Like I said, you stated you were an elderly person, and as people age, they get more confused. That's why I suggested that perhaps you keep a note pad and write things down so you at least know who said what.

You continue to accuse me of "being all over the place" for responding to issues YOU inquire about

You continue to want to cover questions asked and answered

You continue to post things you think are authoritative without providing any verifiable references save of those from socialist and / or partisan propaganda sites

You ignore the views of others even when such views are based upon legal principles, verifiable non-partisan studies, and plain old common sense

You continue to promote the political ideologies of totalitarian governments, communists, and socialists.

At some point you merit an equal response.

You are a paid troll mother fucker and it's obvious..

 

[Porter Rockwell]

You call me an idiot

That's because you are an idiot and a jive MFer too. So far you have not responded to a single question or challenge to explain or justify any of your wild claims. You're so damned sure a wall can't work despite it working everywhere else you're not willing to even try. You totally deny the vast cost and potential threat of mass illegal invasions by unknown and unvetted people across thousands of miles of border that the wall would largely save us from while claiming the whole world hates us and is out to get us. Don't you know that with cameras, electronic screening and vibration detectors, we can monitor every inch of that wall if we choose?!

Europe built a high speed train at huge cost to solve a big problem. Our big problem to solve is our wide open southern border. Everywhere I go I see foreign riff raff that has no money and can't even speak English. They are not wanted. Time to cut off the supply route of cheap labor and cheap democrat votes. I don't need these low lifes picking my next president.

OMG, at the expense of posting literally walls of text I've answered EVERY question I've been asked. So that is a lie. Otherwise, you would have quoted some question that has not been addressed.

I don't deny the costs. That is a lie. What YOU deny is that those foreign laborers pay taxes, create wealth, are more productive than lazy ass Americans and contribute toward those costs. You don't want a true picture of the situation.

The people that hate us the most are the foreigners you choose to ignore. That is very telling.

Are you so naive as to believe that if a government were sending people here to do us harm they would give you honest intel on them during any vetting process? THAT mindset is the very reason I believe the wall will be built at the cost of firearms ownership. Background checks, waiting periods, limits on how many firearms a gun collector can get, separating Americans into different classes of people.

I might be a jive mother fornicator as you say, but I did not realize that she was your mother. You sure you want to start down that road?

 

[Wyatt earp]

YOU are the one who is all over the place. For example when I talked about the Americans who were on drugs as a reason that we have to fix that, you wanted a debate as whether or not ADD / ADHD were real conditions.

If you had an IQ higher than your shoe size, you would understand that I enjoy the Freedoms and Liberties our forefathers fought, bled and died for.

If you eliminate the incentives for foreigners to come here, they won't enter the U.S. That is NOT what you're after. You are on the side that had a problem with the Americans Right to own private property. You and your ilk have been attacking it ever since this little immigration battle began. You are on the side invoking the great successes of communist countries, dictatorships and countries at war with these nutty walls. You hate private property Rights, Liberty, and you have no use for the free market. I'm against the socialist utopia you are working toward.

Insofar as the immigrants, if you went back to the way America was designed to work, you would not have a problem with them. And, son, you've spent so much time calling people names, I realize that you will be too damn stupid to read between the lines and understand that I gave you an unequivocal answer to your question about my attitude toward immigration and what I expect out of EVERY foreigner.

Who have I called a name unprovoked? Nobody. If anything, it's you hurling the names. I don't draw first blood on message boards. Your personal insults like the one you just posted is a perfect example.

The only people losing freedoms by a wall are the invaders themselves. Unless you are an illegal yourself, then you're not going to lose one freedom and neither will I. And if the wall is built and you are losing freedom, write back and I will support you in tearing down the wall.

You mentioned several times you are an elderly person. I think what you should do is keep a notepad by your computer, and write down key things people write. Because it's getting quite annoying when you tell me about things I said that I never even mentioned, things like insulting people when I haven't unless I was returning an insult, things you think I'm against like property rights when I never brought up the subject, and that way you at least won't be called a liar so often.

I've never initiated any name calling. And since you're making the allegation, what name did I call you?

If you had an IQ higher than your shoe size, you would understand that

See? Crap like that; personal insults. I didn't say one thing to you on that level for you to respond that way. Like I said, you stated you were an elderly person, and as people age, they get more confused. That's why I suggested that perhaps you keep a note pad and write things down so you at least know who said what.

You continue to accuse me of "being all over the place" for responding to issues YOU inquire about

You continue to want to cover questions asked and answered

You continue to post things you think are authoritative without providing any verifiable references save of those from socialist and / or partisan propaganda sites

You ignore the views of others even when such views are based upon legal principles, verifiable non-partisan studies, and plain old common sense

You continue to promote the political ideologies of totalitarian governments, communists, and socialists.

At some point you merit an equal response.

You are a paid troll mother fucker and it's obvious..

No heart no soul just a paid off troll

 

[Porter Rockwell]

YOU are the one who is all over the place. For example when I talked about the Americans who were on drugs as a reason that we have to fix that, you wanted a debate as whether or not ADD / ADHD were real conditions.

If you had an IQ higher than your shoe size, you would understand that I enjoy the Freedoms and Liberties our forefathers fought, bled and died for.

If you eliminate the incentives for foreigners to come here, they won't enter the U.S. That is NOT what you're after. You are on the side that had a problem with the Americans Right to own private property. You and your ilk have been attacking it ever since this little immigration battle began. You are on the side invoking the great successes of communist countries, dictatorships and countries at war with these nutty walls. You hate private property Rights, Liberty, and you have no use for the free market. I'm against the socialist utopia you are working toward.

Insofar as the immigrants, if you went back to the way America was designed to work, you would not have a problem with them. And, son, you've spent so much time calling people names, I realize that you will be too damn stupid to read between the lines and understand that I gave you an unequivocal answer to your question about my attitude toward immigration and what I expect out of EVERY foreigner.

Who have I called a name unprovoked? Nobody. If anything, it's you hurling the names. I don't draw first blood on message boards. Your personal insults like the one you just posted is a perfect example.

The only people losing freedoms by a wall are the invaders themselves. Unless you are an illegal yourself, then you're not going to lose one freedom and neither will I. And if the wall is built and you are losing freedom, write back and I will support you in tearing down the wall.

You mentioned several times you are an elderly person. I think what you should do is keep a notepad by your computer, and write down key things people write. Because it's getting quite annoying when you tell me about things I said that I never even mentioned, things like insulting people when I haven't unless I was returning an insult, things you think I'm against like property rights when I never brought up the subject, and that way you at least won't be called a liar so often.

I've never initiated any name calling. And since you're making the allegation, what name did I call you?

If you had an IQ higher than your shoe size, you would understand that

See? Crap like that; personal insults. I didn't say one thing to you on that level for you to respond that way. Like I said, you stated you were an elderly person, and as people age, they get more confused. That's why I suggested that perhaps you keep a note pad and write things down so you at least know who said what.

You continue to accuse me of "being all over the place" for responding to issues YOU inquire about

You continue to want to cover questions asked and answered

You continue to post things you think are authoritative without providing any verifiable references save of those from socialist and / or partisan propaganda sites

You ignore the views of others even when such views are based upon legal principles, verifiable non-partisan studies, and plain old common sense

You continue to promote the political ideologies of totalitarian governments, communists, and socialists.

At some point you merit an equal response.

We know you are a paid troll..


Give it up fucker.

Let's see if you can answer one single honest question:

How many minds do you think I've changed by posting on this thread?

 

[Wyatt earp]

You call me an idiot

That's because you are an idiot and a jive MFer too. So far you have not responded to a single question or challenge to explain or justify any of your wild claims. You're so damned sure a wall can't work despite it working everywhere else you're not willing to even try. You totally deny the vast cost and potential threat of mass illegal invasions by unknown and unvetted people across thousands of miles of border that the wall would largely save us from while claiming the whole world hates us and is out to get us. Don't you know that with cameras, electronic screening and vibration detectors, we can monitor every inch of that wall if we choose?!

Europe built a high speed train at huge cost to solve a big problem. Our big problem to solve is our wide open southern border. Everywhere I go I see foreign riff raff that has no money and can't even speak English. They are not wanted. Time to cut off the supply route of cheap labor and cheap democrat votes. I don't need these low lifes picking my next president.

OMG, at the expense of posting literally walls of text I've answered EVERY question I've been asked. So that is a lie. Otherwise, you would have quoted some question that has not been addressed.

I don't deny the costs. That is a lie. What YOU deny is that those foreign laborers pay taxes, create wealth, are more productive than lazy ass Americans and contribute toward those costs. You don't want a true picture of the situation.

The people that hate us the most are the foreigners you choose to ignore. That is very telling.

Are you so naive as to believe that if a government were sending people here to do us harm they would give you honest intel on them during any vetting process? THAT mindset is the very reason I believe the wall will be built at the cost of firearms ownership. Background checks, waiting periods, limits on how many firearms a gun collector can get, separating Americans into different classes of people.

I might be a jive mother fornicator as you say, but I did not realize that she was your mother. You sure you want to start down that road?

^^ paid off propaganda troll

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Who have I called a name unprovoked? Nobody. If anything, it's you hurling the names. I don't draw first blood on message boards. Your personal insults like the one you just posted is a perfect example.

The only people losing freedoms by a wall are the invaders themselves. Unless you are an illegal yourself, then you're not going to lose one freedom and neither will I. And if the wall is built and you are losing freedom, write back and I will support you in tearing down the wall.

You mentioned several times you are an elderly person. I think what you should do is keep a notepad by your computer, and write down key things people write. Because it's getting quite annoying when you tell me about things I said that I never even mentioned, things like insulting people when I haven't unless I was returning an insult, things you think I'm against like property rights when I never brought up the subject, and that way you at least won't be called a liar so often.

I've never initiated any name calling. And since you're making the allegation, what name did I call you?

If you had an IQ higher than your shoe size, you would understand that

See? Crap like that; personal insults. I didn't say one thing to you on that level for you to respond that way. Like I said, you stated you were an elderly person, and as people age, they get more confused. That's why I suggested that perhaps you keep a note pad and write things down so you at least know who said what.

You continue to accuse me of "being all over the place" for responding to issues YOU inquire about

You continue to want to cover questions asked and answered

You continue to post things you think are authoritative without providing any verifiable references save of those from socialist and / or partisan propaganda sites

You ignore the views of others even when such views are based upon legal principles, verifiable non-partisan studies, and plain old common sense

You continue to promote the political ideologies of totalitarian governments, communists, and socialists.

At some point you merit an equal response.

You are a paid troll mother fucker and it's obvious..

No heart no soul just a paid off troll

So says the guy who hangs with people that would mine the border and kill innocent women and children at the border.

And, while I'm trying to help Americans get back on their feet and become self sufficient, the people supporting your position are condemning me for it. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were telling me about yourself.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Who have I called a name unprovoked? Nobody. If anything, it's you hurling the names. I don't draw first blood on message boards. Your personal insults like the one you just posted is a perfect example.

The only people losing freedoms by a wall are the invaders themselves. Unless you are an illegal yourself, then you're not going to lose one freedom and neither will I. And if the wall is built and you are losing freedom, write back and I will support you in tearing down the wall.

You mentioned several times you are an elderly person. I think what you should do is keep a notepad by your computer, and write down key things people write. Because it's getting quite annoying when you tell me about things I said that I never even mentioned, things like insulting people when I haven't unless I was returning an insult, things you think I'm against like property rights when I never brought up the subject, and that way you at least won't be called a liar so often.

I've never initiated any name calling. And since you're making the allegation, what name did I call you?

If you had an IQ higher than your shoe size, you would understand that

See? Crap like that; personal insults. I didn't say one thing to you on that level for you to respond that way. Like I said, you stated you were an elderly person, and as people age, they get more confused. That's why I suggested that perhaps you keep a note pad and write things down so you at least know who said what.

You continue to accuse me of "being all over the place" for responding to issues YOU inquire about

You continue to want to cover questions asked and answered

You continue to post things you think are authoritative without providing any verifiable references save of those from socialist and / or partisan propaganda sites

You ignore the views of others even when such views are based upon legal principles, verifiable non-partisan studies, and plain old common sense

You continue to promote the political ideologies of totalitarian governments, communists, and socialists.

At some point you merit an equal response.

We know you are a paid troll..


Give it up fucker.

Let's see if you can answer one single honest question:

How many minds do you think I've changed by posting on this thread?

It's obvious.. your like green beard..

A paid troll by Tom steyer


.

I can figure this out real fast..

 

[Porter Rockwell]

You call me an idiot

That's because you are an idiot and a jive MFer too. So far you have not responded to a single question or challenge to explain or justify any of your wild claims. You're so damned sure a wall can't work despite it working everywhere else you're not willing to even try. You totally deny the vast cost and potential threat of mass illegal invasions by unknown and unvetted people across thousands of miles of border that the wall would largely save us from while claiming the whole world hates us and is out to get us. Don't you know that with cameras, electronic screening and vibration detectors, we can monitor every inch of that wall if we choose?!

Europe built a high speed train at huge cost to solve a big problem. Our big problem to solve is our wide open southern border. Everywhere I go I see foreign riff raff that has no money and can't even speak English. They are not wanted. Time to cut off the supply route of cheap labor and cheap democrat votes. I don't need these low lifes picking my next president.

OMG, at the expense of posting literally walls of text I've answered EVERY question I've been asked. So that is a lie. Otherwise, you would have quoted some question that has not been addressed.

I don't deny the costs. That is a lie. What YOU deny is that those foreign laborers pay taxes, create wealth, are more productive than lazy ass Americans and contribute toward those costs. You don't want a true picture of the situation.

The people that hate us the most are the foreigners you choose to ignore. That is very telling.

Are you so naive as to believe that if a government were sending people here to do us harm they would give you honest intel on them during any vetting process? THAT mindset is the very reason I believe the wall will be built at the cost of firearms ownership. Background checks, waiting periods, limits on how many firearms a gun collector can get, separating Americans into different classes of people.

I might be a jive mother fornicator as you say, but I did not realize that she was your mother. You sure you want to start down that road?

^^ paid off propaganda troll

You couldn't answer the question, could you?

 

[Wyatt earp]

I've never initiated any name calling. And since you're making the allegation, what name did I call you?

If you had an IQ higher than your shoe size, you would understand that

See? Crap like that; personal insults. I didn't say one thing to you on that level for you to respond that way. Like I said, you stated you were an elderly person, and as people age, they get more confused. That's why I suggested that perhaps you keep a note pad and write things down so you at least know who said what.

You continue to accuse me of "being all over the place" for responding to issues YOU inquire about

You continue to want to cover questions asked and answered

You continue to post things you think are authoritative without providing any verifiable references save of those from socialist and / or partisan propaganda sites

You ignore the views of others even when such views are based upon legal principles, verifiable non-partisan studies, and plain old common sense

You continue to promote the political ideologies of totalitarian governments, communists, and socialists.

At some point you merit an equal response.

You are a paid troll mother fucker and it's obvious..

No heart no soul just a paid off troll

So says the guy who hangs with people that would mine the border and kill innocent women and children at the border.

And, while I'm trying to help Americans get back on their feet and become self sufficient, the people supporting your position are condemning me for it. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were telling me about yourself.

I've never initiated any name calling. And since you're making the allegation, what name did I call you?

If you had an IQ higher than your shoe size, you would understand that

See? Crap like that; personal insults. I didn't say one thing to you on that level for you to respond that way. Like I said, you stated you were an elderly person, and as people age, they get more confused. That's why I suggested that perhaps you keep a note pad and write things down so you at least know who said what.

You continue to accuse me of "being all over the place" for responding to issues YOU inquire about

You continue to want to cover questions asked and answered

You continue to post things you think are authoritative without providing any verifiable references save of those from socialist and / or partisan propaganda sites

You ignore the views of others even when such views are based upon legal principles, verifiable non-partisan studies, and plain old common sense

You continue to promote the political ideologies of totalitarian governments, communists, and socialists.

At some point you merit an equal response.

You are a paid troll mother fucker and it's obvious..

No heart no soul just a paid off troll

So says the guy who hangs with people that would mine the border and kill innocent women and children at the border.

And, while I'm trying to help Americans get back on their feet and become self sufficient, the people supporting your position are condemning me for it. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were telling me about yourself.

Look at you on Christmas day trying to push propaganda you dumb mother fucker.

 

[Wyatt earp]

You call me an idiot

That's because you are an idiot and a jive MFer too. So far you have not responded to a single question or challenge to explain or justify any of your wild claims. You're so damned sure a wall can't work despite it working everywhere else you're not willing to even try. You totally deny the vast cost and potential threat of mass illegal invasions by unknown and unvetted people across thousands of miles of border that the wall would largely save us from while claiming the whole world hates us and is out to get us. Don't you know that with cameras, electronic screening and vibration detectors, we can monitor every inch of that wall if we choose?!

Europe built a high speed train at huge cost to solve a big problem. Our big problem to solve is our wide open southern border. Everywhere I go I see foreign riff raff that has no money and can't even speak English. They are not wanted. Time to cut off the supply route of cheap labor and cheap democrat votes. I don't need these low lifes picking my next president.

OMG, at the expense of posting literally walls of text I've answered EVERY question I've been asked. So that is a lie. Otherwise, you would have quoted some question that has not been addressed.

I don't deny the costs. That is a lie. What YOU deny is that those foreign laborers pay taxes, create wealth, are more productive than lazy ass Americans and contribute toward those costs. You don't want a true picture of the situation.

The people that hate us the most are the foreigners you choose to ignore. That is very telling.

Are you so naive as to believe that if a government were sending people here to do us harm they would give you honest intel on them during any vetting process? THAT mindset is the very reason I believe the wall will be built at the cost of firearms ownership. Background checks, waiting periods, limits on how many firearms a gun collector can get, separating Americans into different classes of people.

I might be a jive mother fornicator as you say, but I did not realize that she was your mother. You sure you want to start down that road?

^^ paid off propaganda troll

You couldn't answer the question, could you?

Fuck you paid troll.