hylandrdet
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Abbey Normal said:What bull.
I CORINTHIANS 5
Paul writing to the local church in Corinth:
11 "But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one not to eat."
The point is that any sin that is practiced openly and unrepentantly by a believer should call for our separation from that person. Sounds like a judgment to me.
No, it's called advice. The point of that scripture is for you to NOT hold such company so close as to allow them to taint your spirituality.
That was not a call for segregation, it was a call for you to know when to part company when they they try to tempt you. Ex: "Yo dude, you want a drink?". Repsonse,"No thanks. Hey, it's late, I think it's time for me to go home. See you tommorrow."
Which dovetails nicely with Jesus' own words to the woman caught in adultery. Ironically, probably the most favored verse by the "do not judge" crowd.
John 7: 53 - 8: 11
"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her..."
"Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more."
Jesus did not say, "No one has a right to judge you, so go on and live your life however you want to." He said, "Go and sin no more". At the same time, he showed the Pharisees that their motives for judging this woman were improper; they were using the letter of the law and this woman's actions to try to trick Jesus into saying something that would get Him in trouble with the Roman governor. Jesus is letting them know that the way they judge will be applied to them as well. They knew they were as guilty as the adulteress. He never said Adultery is okay, or that no one can find fault with it. He did, however, forgive the woman ("Neither do I condemn thee").
Improper? Jesus judged them to be hypocrites. His' judgement declared that these men were not capable of judging her, because all of them had sinned.
His "Go and sin no more" declaration was warning to that woman; to advise her to make it HER own personal responsibility to "sin no more". To ignore his warning, would result in her burning alongside these hypocrites. The liberals understand that we had all sinned at one point or time; this means that we are all disqualified from legislating morality. So what's the alternative...?
http://www.bartleby.com/108/19/109.html
Psalm 109. Ask the lord to handle it, for he is infallable and therefore his judgments are without question. Did you notice the beginning of Psalms 109.
"1 Hold not thy peace, O God of my praise;
2 for the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me:they have spoken against me with a lying tongue.
3 They compassed me about also with words of hatred; and fought against me without a cause."
Sounds to me like someone's been judged by people who'd lacked the moral creditials necessary to make such judgments. Wait a minute, that sounds familiar...
It is not smart or logical to take your (mis)interpretation of the Bible and try to use it against Christians.
Yep, I thought I'd recognized something like that!
In a word, you conservative christian americans will NEVER reach moral creditials needed to pass judgment on anyone. Why? Because we know you , as well as other, had sinned.
Oh by the way, tell Pat I said Hi and tell him that I'll confess that I drunk a beer today so long as he doesn't send a covert team out to kill me!