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Don't use Donald Trump as a paradigm of civil comportment. It makes you look ethically impotent. Just admit that Trump is no role model. He would embarrass you if he were in your family. The ranting,mchildish uncle you must endure at the holidays, but ignore the rest of the year. He's a rude, boorish charlatan totally unworthy of respect. Championing such behavior reveals more about the lack of character than you may care to admit.until you can have someone you don't care for be president and not have to insult him and those who support him, here is where we will be. sipping your wine cooler and eating pepper jack cheese while listening to something instrumental doesn't make you a classy person.It's the most immature and the least sophisticated posters who, like Trump, use insult as argument, denigration as political intellect and boorishness as eloquence. ''Twas ever thus. And, until the hex cast by the Charlatan in Chief is broken come November, we must endure it with grace.
in fact, every time you post you remind everyone you're just as bad as those you look down upon.
Arguing with leftwingers is a waste of time. They are immune to facts and logic. Ridicule is the only thing that affects them.It's the most immature and the least sophisticated posters who, like Trump, use insult as argument, denigration as political intellect and boorishness as eloquence. ''Twas ever thus. And, until the hex cast by the Charlatan in Chief is broken come November, we must endure it with grace.
When you attack Trump you attack everyone who supports him. You're doing the very thing you claim to be against.Don't use Donald Trump as a paradigm of civil comportment. It makes you look ethically impotent. Just admit that Trump is no role model. He would embarrass you if he were in your family. The ranting,mchildish uncle you must endure at the holidays, but ignore the rest of the year. He's a rude, boorish charlatan totally unworthy of respect. Championing such behavior reveals more about the lack of character than you may care to admit.until you can have someone you don't care for be president and not have to insult him and those who support him, here is where we will be. sipping your wine cooler and eating pepper jack cheese while listening to something instrumental doesn't make you a classy person.It's the most immature and the least sophisticated posters who, like Trump, use insult as argument, denigration as political intellect and boorishness as eloquence. ''Twas ever thus. And, until the hex cast by the Charlatan in Chief is broken come November, we must endure it with grace.
in fact, every time you post you remind everyone you're just as bad as those you look down upon.
Nope. Trump has greatly improved the situation. For one thing, he has exposed the fake news media for what it is: A democrat propaganda organ.I think that Trump has clearly exacerbated a very bad situation, unlike any other single individual has.You can't blame Trump for this. I was here the year before Trump was elected, when we had an honorable, articulate and dignified leader in the White House.Fortunately, we can look to the White House as a template for dignity, honor, civility, respect, fairness, articulateness and honesty.
Our role models -- those we can use as examples for each other and our children -- will surely pull us out of this. Any day now.
The shit here was just as thick then. Worse, at times.
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no, i see it. but i'm not putting any of this on a single person. what we have here is a perfect storm of events driving each other and we're pretty much letting the storm drive these days. people want someone to blame cause it makes thinking about it easier. to me anyway. blame this person and we're done. except any single person is driven by a social mindset behind them. obama was successful because he represented a lot of people who felt left out of our country. trump is successful because in their efforts to be relevant, they started tearing out our history from under us, creating their own issues moreso than resolving any.Never said it was "all Trump".and how is this any different than cheering such major debates and eternal crisises from the last admin as in where to pee and who must make cakes?Trump is doing other things, and has been doing so since the ride down the escalator.trump isn't making the left falsify evidenceI think that Trump has clearly exacerbated a very bad situation, unlike any other single individual has.You can't blame Trump for this. I was here the year before Trump was elected, when we had an honorable, articulate and dignified leader in the White House.
The shit here was just as thick then. Worse, at times.
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trump isn't making the left go through senseless impeachment activities
trump isn't making the left impossible to work with (hell that's just our normal state of affairs anymore)
trump isn't making people do much of anything at all.
but we do and always will have a group of people that will forever blame others for WHY THEY CHOOSE to act up in the manner they do. at the end of the day that is bullshit. we and we alone are responsible for the things we do regardless of why we say we are doing them. we still chose to.
lack of accountability is rampant and hard to put back in place.
And his fans have been cheering that behavior every last step of the way.
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we as a country have lost our way on what we call success and what is actually worth fighting for. so we make everything a fight and stay angry. it works for dr banner but not so much in reality but here we are. you can pretend it's all trump but it still doesn't change my base premise in that YOU AND I CHOOSE how we react - that doesn't fall on anyone but us.
period.
I know you don't see it, or don't care, or don't mind, or it's not there, or it's different, or whatever the hell this is.
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You really have no leg to stand on with that opinion. And 'worshipped' has two 'p's'.You can't blame Trump for this. I was here the year before Trump was elected, when we had an honorable, articulate and dignified leader in the White House.Fortunately, we can look to the White House as a template for dignity, honor, civility, respect, fairness, articulateness and honesty.
Our role models -- those we can use as examples for each other and our children -- will surely pull us out of this. Any day now.
The shit here was just as thick then. Worse, at times.
...but enough about President George W. Bush. You do realize it was much longer ago than a year. Your comments cannot possibly apply to the dishonorable, inarticulate, and undignified leader you worshiped.
for that matter, anyone ARGUING is pretty much wasting time. it's an "attack" mindset and most people will react, not discuss, such views stated in that manner.Arguing with leftwingers is a waste of time. They are immune to facts and logic. Ridicule is the only thing that affects them.It's the most immature and the least sophisticated posters who, like Trump, use insult as argument, denigration as political intellect and boorishness as eloquence. ''Twas ever thus. And, until the hex cast by the Charlatan in Chief is broken come November, we must endure it with grace.
But I AM always right, ice!for that matter, anyone ARGUING is pretty much wasting time. it's an "attack" mindset and most people will react, not discuss, such views stated in that manner.Arguing with leftwingers is a waste of time. They are immune to facts and logic. Ridicule is the only thing that affects them.It's the most immature and the least sophisticated posters who, like Trump, use insult as argument, denigration as political intellect and boorishness as eloquence. ''Twas ever thus. And, until the hex cast by the Charlatan in Chief is broken come November, we must endure it with grace.
as for ridicule, i suppose that depends on what you want out of your "argument/discussion/debate" and the like. but going in with an attack mode on is only going to get you the same answers / replies in return.
ridicule is the only thing that affects anyone in that mindset actually.
wish we could get back to discussions and away from arguing I'M RIGHT and HERE'S WHY YOU FOOL! type crap
I'm 100% behind you in this, task. When I try to get a poster to tone it down and actually address something I said instead of just ranting about communist nazi baby killers, etc., I usually just get called a snowflake and get told to toughen up. The approach here is sometimes different when a guy says it."But I AM always right" I hear this all the time from my better half. Sometimes you gotta decide if the coming battle is worth fighting, both here and at home. And sometimes a little humor goes a long way and defuses what could devolve into a pissing contest. You gotta use those emoji things so the oblivious people like me will realize sarcasm is being employed.
Most of my friends and neighbors are "conservitards". I don't want them to feel bad, I just want them to wise up.[/QUOTE]It's the only thing I ever learned from a conservitard.
Why is it necessary to denigrate those with different political views?
Are we not entitled to our own opinions? Are we so certain of the righteousness of our beliefs? Never been wrong? Is it not the height of arrogance to disparage others with different views? Is condescensing sarcasm a good idea? How is this country going to fix the many problems we have if we treat each other like shit?
I see it all the time on this board: ridicule, dehumanizing, demagoguery. It ain't cool and it never helps your argument. Do you want to be that kind of person that resorts to such behavior? Or do you admit that you lack the temperament and ability to participate in a debate by articulating your opinions instead of attacking the other side? What, you can't agree to disagree without badmouthing somebody or what they wrote in a belittling way? If that is the case, then that doesn't say much for you, does it?
Every time you are, you most certainly are.But I AM always right, ice!for that matter, anyone ARGUING is pretty much wasting time. it's an "attack" mindset and most people will react, not discuss, such views stated in that manner.Arguing with leftwingers is a waste of time. They are immune to facts and logic. Ridicule is the only thing that affects them.It's the most immature and the least sophisticated posters who, like Trump, use insult as argument, denigration as political intellect and boorishness as eloquence. ''Twas ever thus. And, until the hex cast by the Charlatan in Chief is broken come November, we must endure it with grace.
as for ridicule, i suppose that depends on what you want out of your "argument/discussion/debate" and the like. but going in with an attack mode on is only going to get you the same answers / replies in return.
ridicule is the only thing that affects anyone in that mindset actually.
wish we could get back to discussions and away from arguing I'M RIGHT and HERE'S WHY YOU FOOL! type crap
Every time you are, you most certainly are.But I AM always right, ice!for that matter, anyone ARGUING is pretty much wasting time. it's an "attack" mindset and most people will react, not discuss, such views stated in that manner.Arguing with leftwingers is a waste of time. They are immune to facts and logic. Ridicule is the only thing that affects them.It's the most immature and the least sophisticated posters who, like Trump, use insult as argument, denigration as political intellect and boorishness as eloquence. ''Twas ever thus. And, until the hex cast by the Charlatan in Chief is broken come November, we must endure it with grace.
as for ridicule, i suppose that depends on what you want out of your "argument/discussion/debate" and the like. but going in with an attack mode on is only going to get you the same answers / replies in return.
ridicule is the only thing that affects anyone in that mindset actually.
wish we could get back to discussions and away from arguing I'M RIGHT and HERE'S WHY YOU FOOL! type crap
I'm 100% behind you in this, task. When I try to get a poster to tone it down and actually address something I said instead of just ranting about communist nazi baby killers, etc., I usually just get called a snowflake and get told to toughen up. The approach here is sometimes different when a guy says it."But I AM always right" I hear this all the time from my better half. Sometimes you gotta decide if the coming battle is worth fighting, both here and at home. And sometimes a little humor goes a long way and defuses what could devolve into a pissing contest. You gotta use those emoji things so the oblivious people like me will realize sarcasm is being employed.
And after spending 8 years convincing idiots that Obama was not an American, he and his supporters have no claim to civility.Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. They are not entitled to their own factsAre we not entitled to our own opinions? Are we so certain of the righteousness of our beliefs? Never been wrong? Is it not the height of arrogance to disparage others with different views? Is condescensing sarcasm a good idea? How is this country going to fix the many problems we have if we treat each other like shit?
I see it all the time on this board: ridicule, dehumanizing, demagoguery. It ain't cool and it never helps your argument. Do you want to be that kind of person that resorts to such behavior? Or do you admit that you lack the temperament and ability to participate in a debate by articulating your opinions instead of attacking the other side? What, you can't agree to disagree without badmouthing somebody or what they wrote in a belittling way? If that is the case, then that doesn't say much for you, does it?
