Why is it necessary to denigrate those with different political views?

[Harpy Eagle]

Are we not entitled to our own opinions? Are we so certain of the righteousness of our beliefs? Never been wrong? Is it not the height of arrogance to disparage others with different views? Is condescensing sarcasm a good idea? How is this country going to fix the many problems we have if we treat each other like shit?

I see it all the time on this board: ridicule, dehumanizing, demagoguery. It ain't cool and it never helps your argument. Do you want to be that kind of person that resorts to such behavior? Or do you admit that you lack the temperament and ability to participate in a debate by articulating your opinions instead of attacking the other side? What, you can't agree to disagree without badmouthing somebody or what they wrote in a belittling way? If that is the case, then that doesn't say much for you, does it?

That is why people come to forums like this.

 

[FA_Q2]

It is the only way that you can support evil while feeling good about the decision.

The echo chambers mostly exist to demonize the other side until you are conformable voting for the piece of shit candidate that is in front of you.

 

[FA_Q2]

Are we not entitled to our own opinions? Are we so certain of the righteousness of our beliefs? Never been wrong? Is it not the height of arrogance to disparage others with different views? Is condescensing sarcasm a good idea? How is this country going to fix the many problems we have if we treat each other like shit?

I see it all the time on this board: ridicule, dehumanizing, demagoguery. It ain't cool and it never helps your argument. Do you want to be that kind of person that resorts to such behavior? Or do you admit that you lack the temperament and ability to participate in a debate by articulating your opinions instead of attacking the other side? What, you can't agree to disagree without badmouthing somebody or what they wrote in a belittling way? If that is the case, then that doesn't say much for you, does it?

The Democrats really don't have that much to say nowadays, except to badmouth people.

Back in the day, FDR ran hard against Wendell Willkie- but he didn't call him Literally Hitler.

All the badmouthing on this thread is coming from Trumpers

Odd that huh?

It would be odd if it were true.

Willful blindness.

 

[FA_Q2]

Are we not entitled to our own opinions? Are we so certain of the righteousness of our beliefs? Never been wrong? Is it not the height of arrogance to disparage others with different views? Is condescensing sarcasm a good idea? How is this country going to fix the many problems we have if we treat each other like shit?

I see it all the time on this board: ridicule, dehumanizing, demagoguery. It ain't cool and it never helps your argument. Do you want to be that kind of person that resorts to such behavior? Or do you admit that you lack the temperament and ability to participate in a debate by articulating your opinions instead of attacking the other side? What, you can't agree to disagree without badmouthing somebody or what they wrote in a belittling way? If that is the case, then that doesn't say much for you, does it?

That is why people come to forums like this.

Speak for yourself.

Not everyone comes here for that.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Are we not entitled to our own opinions? Are we so certain of the righteousness of our beliefs? Never been wrong? Is it not the height of arrogance to disparage others with different views? Is condescensing sarcasm a good idea? How is this country going to fix the many problems we have if we treat each other like shit?

I see it all the time on this board: ridicule, dehumanizing, demagoguery. It ain't cool and it never helps your argument. Do you want to be that kind of person that resorts to such behavior? Or do you admit that you lack the temperament and ability to participate in a debate by articulating your opinions instead of attacking the other side? What, you can't agree to disagree without badmouthing somebody or what they wrote in a belittling way? If that is the case, then that doesn't say much for you, does it?

That is why people come to forums like this.

Speak for yourself.

Not everyone comes here for that.

That is what we have the Clean zone for, those odd few that do not.

 

[Shawnee_b]

Are we not entitled to our own opinions? Are we so certain of the righteousness of our beliefs? Never been wrong? Is it not the height of arrogance to disparage others with different views? Is condescensing sarcasm a good idea? How is this country going to fix the many problems we have if we treat each other like shit?

I see it all the time on this board: ridicule, dehumanizing, demagoguery. It ain't cool and it never helps your argument. Do you want to be that kind of person that resorts to such behavior? Or do you admit that you lack the temperament and ability to participate in a debate by articulating your opinions instead of attacking the other side? What, you can't agree to disagree without badmouthing somebody or what they wrote in a belittling way? If that is the case, then that doesn't say much for you, does it?

Oh, listen to the righteous one. Puck you azzhole.

 

[occupied]

Conservatives demand politics be a sadistic zero-sum game. It's not enough to win, the opposition must lose and be continually humiliated.

Conservatives demand politics be a sadistic zero-sum game.

And 'liberals' don't?

Not nearly as much. Is there an equivalent to the concept of "liberal tears"?

Deplorables?

Do you seriously believe the left is less guilty of that behavior?

Less antagonistic than the Right??

I detest sadism. I see very little desire on the left to make the right suffer needless humiliation.

 

[FA_Q2]

Conservatives demand politics be a sadistic zero-sum game. It's not enough to win, the opposition must lose and be continually humiliated.

Conservatives demand politics be a sadistic zero-sum game.

And 'liberals' don't?

Not nearly as much. Is there an equivalent to the concept of "liberal tears"?

Deplorables?

Do you seriously believe the left is less guilty of that behavior?

Less antagonistic than the Right??

I detest sadism. I see very little desire on the left to make the right suffer needless humiliation.

 

[Crepitus]

Are we not entitled to our own opinions? Are we so certain of the righteousness of our beliefs? Never been wrong? Is it not the height of arrogance to disparage others with different views? Is condescensing sarcasm a good idea? How is this country going to fix the many problems we have if we treat each other like shit?

I see it all the time on this board: ridicule, dehumanizing, demagoguery. It ain't cool and it never helps your argument. Do you want to be that kind of person that resorts to such behavior? Or do you admit that you lack the temperament and ability to participate in a debate by articulating your opinions instead of attacking the other side? What, you can't agree to disagree without badmouthing somebody or what they wrote in a belittling way? If that is the case, then that doesn't say much for you, does it?

When they want to loot me and enslave me, then they deserve to be denigrated, just like Nazis or Jihadis.

When they resort to ridiculous hyperbole like "loot and enslave" they deserve to be denigrated.

 

[Crepitus]

Are we not entitled to our own opinions? Are we so certain of the righteousness of our beliefs? Never been wrong? Is it not the height of arrogance to disparage others with different views? Is condescensing sarcasm a good idea? How is this country going to fix the many problems we have if we treat each other like shit?

I see it all the time on this board: ridicule, dehumanizing, demagoguery. It ain't cool and it never helps your argument. Do you want to be that kind of person that resorts to such behavior? Or do you admit that you lack the temperament and ability to participate in a debate by articulating your opinions instead of attacking the other side? What, you can't agree to disagree without badmouthing somebody or what they wrote in a belittling way? If that is the case, then that doesn't say much for you, does it?

On this board, no, there's no disagreeing without badmouthing.

Hell, on this board, there's not a lot of agreeing without badmouthing.

You're absolutely correct and stupid.



(Kidding)

 

[Crepitus]

Conservatives demand politics be a sadistic zero-sum game. It's not enough to win, the opposition must lose and be continually humiliated.

Conservatives demand politics be a sadistic zero-sum game.

And 'liberals' don't?

Not nearly as much. Is there an equivalent to the concept of "liberal tears"?

Deplorables?

Do you seriously believe the left is less guilty of that behavior?

Less antagonistic than the Right??

I detest sadism. I see very little desire on the left to make the right suffer needless humiliation.

I'm learning to appreciate it.

It's the only thing I ever learned from a conservitard.

 

[Coyote]

You know, this country isn't going to come together again until after we can get the politicians to cease with the demagoguery and rhetoric. And, one of the main offenders is Trump, because while he says that he wants the country to come together in one breath, he then tears down whoever he thinks wronged him that day and demonizes them. Sorry, but until the leadership calms down, the country won't.

Trump is a counter-puncher. Very unlike previous Republican Presidential candidates, who didn't respond when the libs called them racists, or fascists or Literally Hitler or worse.

Why does the man, holding the highest office in the country, the most powerful figure in the world, NEED to counter punch the "little guys" who are bad mouthing him just as they have bad mouthed every other president before him.

Why?

 

[occupied]

Conservatives demand politics be a sadistic zero-sum game. It's not enough to win, the opposition must lose and be continually humiliated.

Conservatives demand politics be a sadistic zero-sum game.

And 'liberals' don't?

Not nearly as much. Is there an equivalent to the concept of "liberal tears"?

Deplorables?

Do you seriously believe the left is less guilty of that behavior?

Less antagonistic than the Right??

I detest sadism. I see very little desire on the left to make the right suffer needless humiliation.

I'm learning to appreciate it.

It's the only thing I ever learned from a conservitard.

Most of my friends and neighbors are "conservitards". I don't want them to feel bad, I just want them to wise up.

 

[Polishprince]

You know, this country isn't going to come together again until after we can get the politicians to cease with the demagoguery and rhetoric. And, one of the main offenders is Trump, because while he says that he wants the country to come together in one breath, he then tears down whoever he thinks wronged him that day and demonizes them. Sorry, but until the leadership calms down, the country won't.

Trump is a counter-puncher. Very unlike previous Republican Presidential candidates, who didn't respond when the libs called them racists, or fascists or Literally Hitler or worse.

Why does the man, holding the highest office in the country, the most powerful figure in the world, NEED to counter punch the "little guys" who are bad mouthing him just as they have bad mouthed every other president before him.

Why?

Its not that the liberals are just attacking him, the Media also attacks the tens of millions of ordinary Americans who support him.

As an individual, Trump's a good sport, no doubt about it. But when you call the millions of little Trumpsters out their "crazies" (like McCain did) or "Deplorables" , then he is committed to defending his people and showing loyalty.

Its not just about him

 

[toobfreak]

Are we not entitled to our own opinions? Are we so certain of the righteousness of our beliefs? Never been wrong? Is it not the height of arrogance to disparage others with different views? Is condescensing sarcasm a good idea? How is this country going to fix the many problems we have if we treat each other like shit?

I see it all the time on this board: ridicule, dehumanizing, demagoguery. It ain't cool and it never helps your argument. Do you want to be that kind of person that resorts to such behavior? Or do you admit that you lack the temperament and ability to participate in a debate by articulating your opinions instead of attacking the other side? What, you can't agree to disagree without badmouthing somebody or what they wrote in a belittling way? If that is the case, then that doesn't say much for you, does it?

Task, the very fact that you are asking the question proves the invalidity of your own point. Anyone ever asking the question is ALWAYS a conservative 99% of the time. You'll have to look far and wide to find one hard left democratic supporter on this board complaining about the lack of civility and the need for tolerance because 98% of it all comes from them in the first place!

 

[Auld Phart]

And 'liberals' don't?

Not nearly as much. Is there an equivalent to the concept of "liberal tears"?

Deplorables?

Do you seriously believe the left is less guilty of that behavior?

Less antagonistic than the Right??

I detest sadism. I see very little desire on the left to make the right suffer needless humiliation.

I'm learning to appreciate it.

It's the only thing I ever learned from a conservitard.

Most of my friends and neighbors are "conservitards". I don't want them to feel bad, I just want them to wise up.

I just want them to wise up.

They likely feel the same about you

 

[Coyote]

You know, this country isn't going to come together again until after we can get the politicians to cease with the demagoguery and rhetoric. And, one of the main offenders is Trump, because while he says that he wants the country to come together in one breath, he then tears down whoever he thinks wronged him that day and demonizes them. Sorry, but until the leadership calms down, the country won't.

Trump is a counter-puncher. Very unlike previous Republican Presidential candidates, who didn't respond when the libs called them racists, or fascists or Literally Hitler or worse.

Why does the man, holding the highest office in the country, the most powerful figure in the world, NEED to counter punch the "little guys" who are bad mouthing him just as they have bad mouthed every other president before him.

Why?

Its not that the liberals are just attacking him, the Media also attacks the tens of millions of ordinary Americans who support him.

As an individual, Trump's a good sport, no doubt about it. But when you call the millions of little Trumpsters out their "crazies" (like McCain did) or "Deplorables" , then he is committed to defending his people and showing loyalty.

Its not just about him

There is considerable doubt about that.

However - I saw Obama and his supporters viciously attacked by conservatives and their media. Bush by the liberals. Didn't see them stoop to the crap Trump stoops too and no...it's not defending his supporters. Most of the time it's reacting to some sort of pathetic insult directed at him or even just normal criticism.

So...yes it is about him.

 

[task0778]

Are we not entitled to our own opinions? Are we so certain of the righteousness of our beliefs? Never been wrong? Is it not the height of arrogance to disparage others with different views? Is condescensing sarcasm a good idea? How is this country going to fix the many problems we have if we treat each other like shit?

I see it all the time on this board: ridicule, dehumanizing, demagoguery. It ain't cool and it never helps your argument. Do you want to be that kind of person that resorts to such behavior? Or do you admit that you lack the temperament and ability to participate in a debate by articulating your opinions instead of attacking the other side? What, you can't agree to disagree without badmouthing somebody or what they wrote in a belittling way? If that is the case, then that doesn't say much for you, does it?

Task, the very fact that you are asking the question proves the invalidity of your own point. Anyone ever asking the question is ALWAYS a conservative 99% of the time. You'll have to look far and wide to find one hard left democratic supporter on this board complaining about the lack of civility and the need for tolerance because 98% of it all comes from them in the first place!

I don't know about that, maybe your % numbers are a little high. There are more than a few posts from the Right that are not as civil or as tolerant as they could be. I didn't refer to either side, wasn't intending to start a fight over who is worse. Most of us could stand to be a little less antagonistic IMHO. Or maybe that just isn't in the cards for now, but I can't see blaming Trump or anyone else for our own shortcomings. It's a personal choice, every time someone posts something they are making a statement for who they are, the kind of person they are. If any poster is not a jerk then why act like one in the USMB?

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Does it matter ....?
I mean you can be civil but they're still going to call you a white supremacist who needs to give up your guns , eat bugs , give healthcare to central and south america, muh muh 400 Years of slavery ,And have you heard about our shared values !
It just easier to tell the violent authoritarian establishment subhuman animal nazi twats to go fuck thier mother's sideways

 

[Polishprince]

You know, this country isn't going to come together again until after we can get the politicians to cease with the demagoguery and rhetoric. And, one of the main offenders is Trump, because while he says that he wants the country to come together in one breath, he then tears down whoever he thinks wronged him that day and demonizes them. Sorry, but until the leadership calms down, the country won't.

Trump is a counter-puncher. Very unlike previous Republican Presidential candidates, who didn't respond when the libs called them racists, or fascists or Literally Hitler or worse.

Why does the man, holding the highest office in the country, the most powerful figure in the world, NEED to counter punch the "little guys" who are bad mouthing him just as they have bad mouthed every other president before him.

Why?

Its not that the liberals are just attacking him, the Media also attacks the tens of millions of ordinary Americans who support him.

As an individual, Trump's a good sport, no doubt about it. But when you call the millions of little Trumpsters out their "crazies" (like McCain did) or "Deplorables" , then he is committed to defending his people and showing loyalty.

Its not just about him

There is considerable doubt about that.

However - I saw Obama and his supporters viciously attacked by conservatives and their media. Bush by the liberals. Didn't see them stoop to the crap Trump stoops too and no...it's not defending his supporters. Most of the time it's reacting to some sort of pathetic insult directed at him or even just normal criticism.

So...yes it is about him.

The Media attacks Trump worse than anyone by far, in my view. The number of Fake News stories they just make up out of whole cloth is incredible.

But the thing with Trump is that if a Fake News story comes out about him at 3 a.m. ET, by half past 5, he can respond on Twitter. Instantaneous response if he wants to.