Why is prostitution illegal?

My case. In not so many words.

I thought you were arguing for prostitution to be illegal

I am. The risk for disease if anything else should be one of the main reasons to keep it illegal. If government's role is to protect others from harm, preventing the spread of STDs is the first measure I'd want them to take.
what if a small tax was imposed on that industry for a "safe sex administration" to help regulate it.

There will be a wealth of unregulated and untaxed prostitutes. Some men will use legal brothels, some men will choose the cheaper alternative that's not taxed and not regulated.

How is that different than any other product or service? The more the government taxes and regulates something to death, the more incentive people have to go to the black market.

And is that an argument? Seriously? Well, we don't want to legalize something because not everyone will use the legal version, so let's keep it all illegal...

I just explained why. I thought better of some people in this thread, I thought people had respect for women. Perhaps I was mistaken.

To make something legal doesn't make it right. I have enough respect for women to know that there are better things for them in life than to subject themselves to this.
 
I thought you were arguing for prostitution to be illegal

I am. The risk for disease if anything else should be one of the main reasons to keep it illegal. If government's role is to protect others from harm, preventing the spread of STDs is the first measure I'd want them to take.
what if a small tax was imposed on that industry for a "safe sex administration" to help regulate it.

There will be a wealth of unregulated and untaxed prostitutes. Some men will use legal brothels, some men will choose the cheaper alternative that's not taxed and not regulated.

How is that different than any other product or service? The more the government taxes and regulates something to death, the more incentive people have to go to the black market.

And is that an argument? Seriously? Well, we don't want to legalize something because not everyone will use the legal version, so let's keep it all illegal...

I just explained why. I thought better of some people in this thread, I thought people had respect for women. Perhaps I was mistaken.

To make something legal doesn't make it right. I have enough respect for women to know that there are better things for them in life than to subject themselves to this.
What do they know eh?
Poor little pretty things.
They need looking after.
Life's so complicated these days...how can they be expected to make good choices?
 
I thought you were arguing for prostitution to be illegal

I am. The risk for disease if anything else should be one of the main reasons to keep it illegal. If government's role is to protect others from harm, preventing the spread of STDs is the first measure I'd want them to take.
what if a small tax was imposed on that industry for a "safe sex administration" to help regulate it.

There will be a wealth of unregulated and untaxed prostitutes. Some men will use legal brothels, some men will choose the cheaper alternative that's not taxed and not regulated.

How is that different than any other product or service? The more the government taxes and regulates something to death, the more incentive people have to go to the black market.

And is that an argument? Seriously? Well, we don't want to legalize something because not everyone will use the legal version, so let's keep it all illegal...

I just explained why. I thought better of some people in this thread, I thought people had respect for women. Perhaps I was mistaken.

Apparently you don't respect them because you don't believe they are competent to make their own decisions.

To make something legal doesn't make it right. I have enough respect for women to know that there are better things for them in life than to subject themselves to this.

No one said it does make it right, but your sanctimonious sermons don't make it wrong either. The bottom line is they are harming no one, and laws should be reserved to limiting behavior that violates another person's rights. Making us into admirable human beings isn't the proper function of the law, and it seldom has that effect.

You don't respect women. That's obvious horseshit.
 
Apparently you don't respect them because you don't believe they are competent to make their own decisions.

And apparently you don't believe in the integrity of a woman. Competence be damned. I would think of myself less if I knew there were women out there throwing themselves away like that.


No one said it does make it right, but your sanctimonious sermons don't make it wrong either.

And that statement says everything about your morals. It's interesting really, to oppose abortion and support prostitution. How can you reconcile that? Is that not a double standard? Don't I see you and your other cohorts here go on sanctimonious rants about the evils of abortion?

Seriously? Whats wrong with you?

The bottom line is they are harming no one, and laws should be reserved to limiting behavior that violates another person's rights.

WRONG

They are exposing (no pun) themselves to danger at any point in time. In some cases they pay with their life. What a waste.

Violence against prostitutes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Prostitutes fear rape and murder if they are confined to red light ghetto

Legalization may reduce the danger slightly, but the danger is still there. Many unstable men out there looking to take advantage of a woman.

If the government's role is to protect the citizens, then wouldn't it be within it's constitutionally mandated capacity to make sure women don't expose themselves to that kind of danger?

You don't respect women. That's obvious horseshit.

Who's being sanctimonious now?
 
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Apparently you don't respect them because you don't believe they are competent to make their own decisions.

And apparently you don't believe in the integrity of a woman. Competence be damned. I would think of myself less if I knew there were women out there throwing themselves away like that.


No one said it does make it right, but your sanctimonious sermons don't make it wrong either.

And that statement says everything about your morals. It's interesting really, to oppose abortion and support prostitution. How can you reconcile that? Is that not a double standard? Don't I see you and your other cohorts here go on sanctimonious rants about the evils of abortion?

Seriously? Whats wrong with you?

The bottom line is they are harming no one, and laws should be reserved to limiting behavior that violates another person's rights.

WRONG

They are exposing (no pun) themselves to danger at any point in time. In some cases they pay with their life. What a waste.

Violence against prostitutes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Prostitutes fear rape and murder if they are confined to red light ghetto

Legalization may reduce the danger slightly, but the danger is still there. Many unstable men out there looking to take advantage of a woman.

You don't respect women. That's obvious horseshit.

Who's being sanctimonious now?
And apparently you don't believe in the integrity of a woman. Competence be damned. I would think of myself less if I knew there were women out there throwing themselves away like that.
Thank God you're here to look after them.
They obviously wouldn't have any integrity at all if you weren't here to tell them what they should and shouldn't be doing.
 
Apparently you don't respect them because you don't believe they are competent to make their own decisions.

And apparently you don't believe in the integrity of a woman. Competence be damned. I would think of myself less if I knew there were women out there throwing themselves away like that.

Oh puhleeze. I'll bet you lie awake at night worrying about those poor escorts making $500/hr. I don't waste my time worrying about whether other people live up to their potential. That's their business. See, I'm not a busybody who feels competent to run other people's lives. I despise people like that, because they invariably want to tell me how to run my life.

No one said it does make it right, but your sanctimonious sermons don't make it wrong either.

And that statement says everything about your morals. It's interesting really, to oppose abortion and support prostitution. How can you reconcile that? Is that not a double standard? Don't I see you and your other cohorts here go on sanctimonious rants about the evils of abortion?

Seriously? Whats wrong with you?

Apparently you misunderstood. I'm pro-choice in every area of life. I believe in leaving people alone.

The bottom line is they are harming no one, and laws should be reserved to limiting behavior that violates another person's rights.

WRONG

They are exposing (no pun) themselves to danger at any point in time. In some cases they pay with their life. What a waste.

Violence against prostitutes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Prostitutes fear rape and murder if they are confined to red light ghetto

Legalization may reduce the danger slightly, but the danger is still there. Many unstable men out there looking to take advantage of a woman.

The danger is almost entirely a result of the fact that prostitution is illegal. When it's legal, prostitutes can get police protection and they ply their trade in a safe environment. The bordellos in Nevada have security, and the girls are surrounded by co-workers.

You don't respect women. That's obvious horseshit.

Who's being sanctimonious now?

You are the one who's being sanctimonious. You're the kind that give conservatives a bad name.
 
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The danger is almost entirely a result of the fact that prostitution is illegal.

That's not true. The danger is still there, legal or illegal. You can decriminalize prostitution, but you can't get rid of the unstable personalities out there lying in wait to pick one or two of those prostitutes off. And to think, you're willing to let them go out there and expose themselves to that.

Respect for a woman means you don't let her expose herself to needless danger. Oh well.
 
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You are the one who's being sanctimonious. You're the kind that give conservatives a bad name.

But that's the thing. I'm not conservative. I'm not liberal. I don't believe in your kind of conformity. I'm not on anyone's team.

To further expound, I march to the beat of my own drum. If I want to take a liberal position, I will. If I want to take a conservative one, so be it. I'd rather not be held down by this petty team game people play in the political arena.

If that makes me enemies, oh well. I would think I was entitled to my own opinions, just as some of you say a whore is entitled to the right to sell herself off as livestock.

I'm out of here.
 
The danger is almost entirely a result of the fact that prostitution is illegal.

That's not true. The danger is still there, legal or illegal. You can decriminalize prostitution, but you can't get rid of the unstable personalities out there lying in wait to pick one or two of those prostitutes off. And to think, you're willing to let them go out there and expose themselves to that.

Respect for a woman means you don't let her expose herself to needless danger. Oh well.
You're right of course.
I think there should be law on how long their dresses should be as well...you know, so that they don't expose themselves to needless danger when they go out.
 
Prohibition turned out like shit, the drug war is shit - I fail to understand how so many cannot connect the similarities in these morality laws.

Eradicating Prostitution is impossible, reducing it is. You can see that when Prohibition was implemented. It was successful in reducing it, not eliminating it. If we judged Prohibition on its ability to eliminate alcohol consumption, it would be a drastic failure.

For example, in Drinking in America (first published in 1982 and revised in 1987), Mark Edward Lender and James Kirby Martin, after a careful and balanced review of studies made during and since Prohibition, note that Prohibition did reduce drinking. The average annual per capita consumption of absolute alcohol by Americans of drinking age—that is, the total alcoholic content of all the beer, wine, and distilled spirits they consumed—stood at 2.60 gallons in the period from 1906 to 1910. It began to drop in the next decade due to state prohibition laws and wartime grain-saving restrictions on brewing and distilling. When statistics were kept again after legal consumption was resumed, the numbers were 0.97 in 1934, 1.20 in 1935, and an average of 1.54 for the period 1936 to 1941. (Pre-1914 levels weren’t reached again, in fact, until 1971.)

In addition, Census Bureau studies showed that the death rate from chronic or acute alcoholism fell from 7.3 per 100,000 in 1907 to 1.6 in 1919, surged to 4.0 in 1927, but was back down to 2.5 in 1932, Prohibition’s last full year. Deaths from cirrhosis of the liver, one cause of which is alcohol abuse, dropped from 14.8 per 100,000 in 1907 to 7.1 in 1920 and never rose above 7.5 during the 1920s. Economic studies estimated that savings and spending on household necessities increased among working-class families during the period, possibly from money that once went to drink. And Norman H. Clark’s fine 1976 “interpretation” of the Prohibition era, Deliver Us from Evil , cites impressive evidence that during the early years of Prohibition arrests for drunkenness and crimes committed while drunk fell off sharply.

Reflections On The Dry Season | American History Lives at American Heritage

So, if Prohibition had that kind of effect, I assume keeping prostitution illegal will have the same effect.

Legalize Prostitution? Not So Fast | National Review Online
So you are supporting Prohibition now!!

You realize that it was an utter failure bringing more crime and death than it helped. History has already proven how idiotic it is to make things like this illegal - many just do not want to learn the lessons that are right in front of us.

Personally it feels like a woman is still being treated like a piece of meat, degraded repeatedly [fucked], for money. It is the carnal men with lust in their hearts who pay money so they can get into a woman's vagina, because he has neither love nor courage to befriend and fall in love with a woman like normal men usually can.

It's not that we want them to not make their own choices, we just care about them enough to know there is a better future for them.

Yes, just like the government cares for you and your choices. That is why they need to ban trans fats, ban fast food and regulate the size of your soda. Because they care about you and they know there are better things out there to help you have a bright and long future.

The reasoning is the EXACT same.
 
If you want to make women vulnerable to abuse and rape then legalize prostitution. If you want to devalue and demean women, if you want to encourage sick bastards to purchase women's bodies then legalize prostitution. If instead you want to demonstrate to women that they are respected and equal in our society then prostitution would be unthinkable.
Wouldn't you be showing greater respect and equality to women by letting them make their own decisions about how to act with their bodies?
Why the need for Government control over people's choices...I thought that was supposed to be a Socialist thing.

There's a reason we have laws to control lowlife scum and their filthy disgusting habits. Left unchecked and unopposed a segment of women in society would be driven into prostitution and not by choice.
And the difference from what happens right now is?
Oh yes, if we legalized prostitution there would be controls and regulations in place to mitigate such things where there are none currently.

Your faith in government is ill advised.
I have almost no faith in government at all.

That does not change the fact that regulations and options mitigate the harm that surrounds illegal activity. When johns have a legal option they are going to take it and when prostitutes have methods in place to help them stay safe they are going to utilize them.

Or we could keep ensuring that those protections are illegal and almost impossible to maintain.
 
I have almost no faith in government at all.

That does not change the fact that regulations and options mitigate the harm that surrounds illegal activity.

You've made my case, precisely. This method works both ways. I have little to no faith in government. But some government is better than none at all. Though if prostitution is made legal, it will be something else the government can regulate and bend to its will. We're all going on about how the government interferes with everything, but here it's different, we WANT it to interfere.

We disallow government here, but allow it there. A paradoxical line of reasoning.


This will be my last post in this thread. Just so everyone knows, I harbor no ill will towards any of you.
 
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No, I am not a liberal. Every business principle speaks for legalizing prostitution. Even the ancient Romans knew this. So, what's wrong with America?

Prostitution isn't illegal in other countries. Its monitored and regulated in those other countries.

Personally I think if someone want to sell their body and someone wants to rent it for an hour or so I could care less.

No worse than giving it to your husband or boyfriend for free. At least with Prostitution the use of your body earns money for you.
 
No, I am not a liberal. Every business principle speaks for legalizing prostitution. Even the ancient Romans knew this. So, what's wrong with America?

Prostitution isn't illegal in other countries. Its monitored and regulated in those other countries.

Personally I think if someone want to sell their body and someone wants to rent it for an hour or so I could care less.

No worse than giving it to your husband or boyfriend for free. At least with Prostitution the use of your body makes money for you.

You mean you did not get the lobster and $100 bottle of wine before giving it up?
 
No, I am not a liberal. Every business principle speaks for legalizing prostitution. Even the ancient Romans knew this. So, what's wrong with America?

Prostitution isn't illegal in other countries. Its monitored and regulated in those other countries.

Personally I think if someone want to sell their body and someone wants to rent it for an hour or so I could care less.

No worse than giving it to your husband or boyfriend for free. At least with Prostitution the use of your body makes money for you.

You mean you did not get the lobster and $100 bottle of wine before giving it up?

LMAO Nope. Wish I had though. Oh and I didn't get paid either. LOL
 
No, I am not a liberal. Every business principle speaks for legalizing prostitution. Even the ancient Romans knew this. So, what's wrong with America?

Prostitution isn't illegal in other countries. Its monitored and regulated in those other countries.

Personally I think if someone want to sell their body and someone wants to rent it for an hour or so I could care less.

No worse than giving it to your husband or boyfriend for free. At least with Prostitution the use of your body makes money for you.

You mean you did not get the lobster and $100 bottle of wine before giving it up?

LMAO Nope. Wish I had though. Oh and I didn't get paid either. LOL

Did he at least have a nice car?
 
No, I am not a liberal. Every business principle speaks for legalizing prostitution. Even the ancient Romans knew this. So, what's wrong with America?

Prostitution isn't illegal in other countries. Its monitored and regulated in those other countries.

Personally I think if someone want to sell their body and someone wants to rent it for an hour or so I could care less.

No worse than giving it to your husband or boyfriend for free. At least with Prostitution the use of your body makes money for you.

You mean you did not get the lobster and $100 bottle of wine before giving it up?

LMAO Nope. Wish I had though. Oh and I didn't get paid either. LOL

Did he at least have a nice car?

Nope. It was a piece of junk. But it ran and got us where we needed to go.

He was great in bed though so I guess it all evened out. LOL
 
I just explained why. I thought better of some people in this thread, I thought people had respect for women. Perhaps I was mistaken.

To make something legal doesn't make it right. I have enough respect for women to know that there are better things for them in life than to subject themselves to this.

For a moment I thought you're talking about abortions, then I remembered we're in prostitution thread.
 

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