Why is prostitution illegal?

[kaz]

Um ... what?

Most murders are crimes of passion. Which indicates the two people knew each other. I'm willing to wager many of them were family members.

What does that have to do with your claim that supporting the death penalty is contradictory to "family values?"

Wasting family members is family values?

 

[paulitician]

Pompous Puritanical tyranny.

 

[danielpalos]

If only we could find nice girls of social morals for free so we wouldn't need money or capitalism as much.

You mean like a slutty virgin you could dress up in Catholic schoolgirl uniforms?

whatever floats your capital boat. i usually insist they cuddle with me and tell me only Bad girls lie to me and let me miss my turn. i love role-playing.

 

[Andylusion]

Um ... what?

Most murders are crimes of passion. Which indicates the two people knew each other. I'm willing to wager many of them were family members.

Not sure exactly where you are getting that.... only 14% of murders are by family members. 30% are where the victim and killer knew each other. And the vast majority of those are acquaintances. So "yeah I met bob at a beer party last month".

44% of murders, the police have no idea what, if any connection there is between the victim and killer, and 12% they know are strangers.

Now, I'd take a guess that the police could most likely figure out if those 44% were family related.... don't you?

So I'm not sure where you get the most murders are crimes of passion.... unless that's a very loose definition of passion., and even so, most are certainly not family.

In fact, even the majority of "family" murders, are broken family murders. Estranged wife, divorced husband, step kids and so on.

Yet another reason for people to quit being so selfish, and work it out instead of divorce... but I digress.

 

[FA_Q2]

Um ... what?

Most murders are crimes of passion. Which indicates the two people knew each other. I'm willing to wager many of them were family members.

Not sure exactly where you are getting that.... only 14% of murders are by family members. 30% are where the victim and killer knew each other. And the vast majority of those are acquaintances. So "yeah I met bob at a beer party last month".

44% of murders, the police have no idea what, if any connection there is between the victim and killer, and 12% they know are strangers.

Now, I'd take a guess that the police could most likely figure out if those 44% were family related.... don't you?

So I'm not sure where you get the most murders are crimes of passion.... unless that's a very loose definition of passion., and even so, most are certainly not family.

In fact, even the majority of "family" murders, are broken family murders. Estranged wife, divorced husband, step kids and so on.

Yet another reason for people to quit being so selfish, and work it out instead of divorce... but I digress.

AFAIK, most murders are actually gang related.

 

[Billo_Really]

Not sure exactly where you are getting that.... only 14% of murders are by family members. 30% are where the victim and killer knew each other. And the vast majority of those are acquaintances. So "yeah I met bob at a beer party last month".

44% of murders, the police have no idea what, if any connection there is between the victim and killer, and 12% they know are strangers.

Now, I'd take a guess that the police could most likely figure out if those 44% were family related.... don't you?

So I'm not sure where you get the most murders are crimes of passion.... unless that's a very loose definition of passion., and even so, most are certainly not family.

In fact, even the majority of "family" murders, are broken family murders. Estranged wife, divorced husband, step kids and so on.

Yet another reason for people to quit being so selfish, and work it out instead of divorce... but I digress.

Alright, I was wrong about the percentages.

Thank you for correcting me!

 

[Billo_Really]

whatever floats your capital boat. i usually insist they cuddle with me and tell me only Bad girls lie to me and let me miss my turn. i love role-playing.

I love hate sex. And revenge sex. Just don't ever sleep with her best friend in order to get even. Big mistake.

BTW, thank you for calling it a "capital" boat, instead of a "socialist" one. Even though I support SS and Medicare, I still consider myself a capitalist.

 

[kaz]

Yet another reason for people to quit being so selfish, and work it out instead of divorce... but I digress.

You can control your own behavior, you can't control someone else's. The determination if that's possible is identifying if your own behavior is the major cause or not. If so, you need to fix it. If not, you can work on it, but you in the end have to accept the reality you can't change it.

In my case, I owned up that my behavior was a problem. I really worked on myself. Ironically, my relationship improved dramatically with everyone in my life, except my wife. Turns out she was the problem too, and she wouldn't own up to that After several more years of my trying to persuade her to change how she treated me, I finally gave it up and left. I wasn't going to be verbally abused anymore.

I am so glad though I owned it first rather than blaming first. She just kept blaming me and endlessly bringing up all her grudges. We went to counseling, but when they kept telling her she needed to treat me differently, she would come home and make excuses they don't know the whole story, though she couldn't tell me what they didn't know.

These things are never simple.

 

[danielpalos]

whatever floats your capital boat. i usually insist they cuddle with me and tell me only Bad girls lie to me and let me miss my turn. i love role-playing.

I love hate sex. And revenge sex. Just don't ever sleep with her best friend in order to get even. Big mistake.

BTW, thank you for calling it a "capital" boat, instead of a "socialist" one. Even though I support SS and Medicare, I still consider myself a capitalist.

i usually don't pay for that; i prefer to spend quality time with nice girls who are willing to be friends and just love me and just be with me, even if only for a little while.

 

[longknife]

Why is it that nobody on USMB can stay on thread?

 

[FA_Q2]

Why is it that nobody on USMB can stay on thread?

We are 37 pages in and still on topic.

Not bad.

 

[danielpalos]

is it wrong to barter for sex?

 

[Billo_Really]

i usually don't pay for that; i prefer to spend quality time with nice girls who are willing to be friends and just love me and just be with me, even if only for a little while.

Not looking for Mrs. Right?

Just Mrs. Right Now!

 

[Lakhota]

Why is prostitution illegal?

Christian hypocrisy.

 

[bripat9643]

It's sad that you place so little value on the lives of your family.

Murder is killing when it isn't justified. If you kill someone in self-defense, you haven't committed murder. If soldiers kill the enemy in battle, they haven't committed murder.

Your theory that all killing is murder is obvious horseshit.

Killing someone in self defense is much different than putting someone to death.
It's the difference between self preservation and vengeance. Killing someone because you have to is one thing, choosing to kill them, is murder.

The death penalty in this country is a flawed system. Name me one rich person who was ever put to death? John Dupont? No. Go ahead, name one. Just one.

When you kill someone in self-defense, you choose to kill them. You said all killing was murder. Now you're back peddling.

As for the number of rich people put to death? You can count the number of poor people put to death on your fingers, so why would you expect any of them to be rich?

All laws are inherently flawed. According to your logic, we should just quit trying to enforce laws.

 

[bripat9643]

I oppose the death penalty, but what does "family values" have to do with it? Your family is less secure at home if a criminal is dead rather than in prison or worse yet on the street? Pass the potatoes dear, they are so much better because we aren't executing murderers...

Liberals, the path through your so called brains of information is just bizarre.

The death penalty does not reduce the crime of murder.

You don't think people with family values commit murder?

It would if it was actually applied.

 

[Billo_Really]

It would if it was actually applied.

So you're saying murder is a rational act?

 

[Billo_Really]

When you kill someone in self-defense, you choose to kill them. You said all killing was murder. Now you're back peddling.

Killing someone in self defense, means you have "no choice" to.

As for the number of rich people put to death? You can count the number of poor people put to death on your fingers, so why would you expect any of them to be rich?

That doesn't make any sense.

All laws are inherently flawed. According to your logic, we should just quit trying to enforce laws.

Get back to the prostitutes, because now you're just starting to make things up.

 

[FA_Q2]

As for the number of rich people put to death? You can count the number of poor people put to death on your fingers, so why would you expect any of them to be rich?

That doesn't make any sense.

That made perfect sense. As the vast majority of crime is committed by poor people (particularly the violent type) and the number of people killed by the death penalty is basically a statistical anomaly - a whopping 24 this year - you are unlikely to see a rich person under the death penalty.

 

[Billo_Really]

That made perfect sense. As the vast majority of crime is committed by poor people (particularly the violent type) and the number of people killed by the death penalty is basically a statistical anomaly - a whopping 24 this year - you are unlikely to see a rich person under the death penalty.

How could it possibly make sense? He said I could "...count the number of poor people put to death..." on my fingers. Well, I only have 10 fingers. You said there was 24 this year. So apparently, I cannot count the number of poor people put to death on my fingers.

Poor people are put to death because there are systemic problems in the administration of death penalty cases. No rich person has ever been put to death, because they can afford good lawyers. Look at John Dupont. He murdered someone in cold blood. He didn't get the death penalty. But he could afford good lawyers. Look at OJ. That trial wasn't an issue of race, it was an issue of class.