namvet
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65% of statisics are made up on the spot.
ie the DNC
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65% of statisics are made up on the spot.
The only fair 'new' system would be zero government contribution or running of it, reduce certain regulations to bring about more competition, and enact proper legislation to fix the true problem areas of denial of coverage, etc.... but no free rides, no added government red tape and bureaucracy, and no government mandates of mandatory insurance
65% of statisics are made up on the spot.
The only fair 'new' system would be zero government contribution or running of it, reduce certain regulations to bring about more competition, and enact proper legislation to fix the true problem areas of denial of coverage, etc.... but no free rides, no added government red tape and bureaucracy, and no government mandates of mandatory insurance
"etc...." is more to the point of the matter: How much more does healthcare cost because the Lawyers that run D.C. and State Governments receive much of their campaign contributions from Lawyers that bring frivoulous malpractice suites against doctors and hospitals.
Where is Tort Reform in the Healthcare Reform Package?
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Yeah, let's just quietly ignore the 800 lb gorilla.
Tort reform is a matter for the states. That's where malpractice laws are written.The only fair 'new' system would be zero government contribution or running of it, reduce certain regulations to bring about more competition, and enact proper legislation to fix the true problem areas of denial of coverage, etc.... but no free rides, no added government red tape and bureaucracy, and no government mandates of mandatory insurance
"etc...." is more to the point of the matter: How much more does healthcare cost because the Lawyers that run D.C. and State Governments receive much of their campaign contributions from Lawyers that bring frivoulous malpractice suites against doctors and hospitals.
Where is Tort Reform in the Healthcare Reform Package?
.............
Yeah, let's just quietly ignore the 800 lb gorilla.
If the current system had those vaunted "freedoms" included! So far, the only ones with "freedoms" are the insurers! They have the "freedom" to raise premiums, erode coverage, deny coverage and basically screw the American consumer at will! Is that "freedom" or just the "Freedom" the Conservative pundits wave in our faces?So you're for doing nothing until an ideological shift has occurred?!? You want the Republicans to regain power and then storm forward on reform because....they have shown us they are willing to do it in the past? Because they are not in the pockets of the special interests?!? Because they will follow up by eliminating Social Security and Medicare?!?With a DEM congress and this administration, I expect it to get worse, ESPECIALLY if government funded/mandated/subsidized/controlled health care is pushed through
I am for getting more lobbyists out of the system... but that is not going to happen now, and especially since we have seen Obama only pay lip service to such a problem
The only way to do it is to prevent the current leadership from pushing shit through.. and then to vote out the present leadership.... putting in those who stick to the principles of the republic as it was intended to be. putting in those who do not believe in the entitlement mantra. putting in those who will really put forth change and put forth the commitment to reduce government. Then and only then will you get true change in health care reform as needed. But I am in no way for trying to do this entitlement care just for the sake of doing something. As many parents have said over the years, do it right or don't do it at all
Yes... and you did catch my typo... of course I meant bridge
Something dogmatic ideologues forget is some Socialist programs are not only necessary but successful.
The problem is bitter partisanship. No real ideas have come from the right side of the aisle. No substantive suggestions have been proffered by the Republicans.
While you wait for the Cultural Revolution to happen to the GOP, the rest of the country is sick (literally) and tired of inaction, obstructionism and the ideological tectonic shifts currently destroying the Republican party.
The time for waiting for the political stars to align is over! The time for action is now.
Nice try.. I don't care if it is REP, DEM, CON, IND, or whatever other party, as long as the change comes in leadership.. removing the current corruption and overreaching within our government today... and I am for no change for merely the sake of change, especially towards government run/funded/subsidized/controlled health care.... PERIOD
I will take a flawed current system with freedoms over a socialized system... for YOU are the only one responsible for you and your well being, your care, your health, etc
Your want of action for the sake of action is frankly dangerous
Tort reform is a matter for the states. That's where malpractice laws are written.The only fair 'new' system would be zero government contribution or running of it, reduce certain regulations to bring about more competition, and enact proper legislation to fix the true problem areas of denial of coverage, etc.... but no free rides, no added government red tape and bureaucracy, and no government mandates of mandatory insurance
"etc...." is more to the point of the matter: How much more does healthcare cost because the Lawyers that run D.C. and State Governments receive much of their campaign contributions from Lawyers that bring frivoulous malpractice suites against doctors and hospitals.
Where is Tort Reform in the Healthcare Reform Package?
.............
Yeah, let's just quietly ignore the 800 lb gorilla.
.First let's acknowledge that the U.S. medical system has serious problems. But the problems stem from departures from free-market principles. The system is riddled with tax manipulation, costly insurance mandates and bureaucratic interference. Most important, six out of seven health-care dollars are spent by third parties, which means that most consumers exercise no cost-consciousness. As Milton Friedman always pointed out, no one spends other people's money as carefully as he spends his own
wont be dropped fuck face they cover it....and try getting the difference between HEATH CARE and A HEALTH CARE SYSTEM...morons like you think they are the same.....the only thing Magical about you ballsack,is your stupidity....We are 37th on the list for industrialized nations.. That is inferiior..
No why are you a moron??
read post 17 dildo.....i have no problems with my big bad private ins......now why are you a moron?....
And yet you missed the issue...
I am glad your happy.. We are still 37th on the list for industrailized nations.. That isn't good..
But thanks for equating your love for your insurance with the rest of the nation... Talk to me when you get cancer or something.. We will see how you like it then when you are dropped..
Ahhh.. the debunked WHO rankings that had an inherent bias towards socialist systems and did not ensure the same reporting on all participant stats... not to mention forgetting to take into account things revolving around free choice and things that have no bearing on the health care system...
But nice try
I'm sorry?? It was debunked when?? Care to backup your words?? And please spare me some rightwing tabloid site or something.. Show me a mainstream website or impartial information..
Until such time the WHO stands!! As it is facts!!
No... it is selective facts, pointed specifically at socialized systems....
RealClearPolitics - Articles - Why the U.S. Ranks Low on WHO's Health-Care Study
As posted SO many times... even Stossel points out the inherent flaws to the ranking system used
The WHO ranking is a biased and agenda driven ranking, plain and simple
America has the best health care in the world. Sorry that it wasn't socialist health care that got us there.
and many americans can't get access to that care b/c of asshole/greedy/immoral health insurance companies. get them out of the way and the rest of americans have a chance at a healthy life
Because heath care reform is something that spans state boundaries, you know, interstate commerce. Something the federal government has the right and responsibility to regulate according to the constitution.Tort reform is a matter for the states. That's where malpractice laws are written."etc...." is more to the point of the matter: How much more does healthcare cost because the Lawyers that run D.C. and State Governments receive much of their campaign contributions from Lawyers that bring frivoulous malpractice suites against doctors and hospitals.
Where is Tort Reform in the Healthcare Reform Package?
.............
Yeah, let's just quietly ignore the 800 lb gorilla.
Oh?
Then why isn't healthcare reform a state issue?
But, do you think America is a place of flawless circumstance? There is no need to reform anything about this country? We are perfect as we stand?Don't bother withthese fools... they see America as a deeply flawed and bad place. Shows how out of touch with reality they really are.
yep the world owes YOU a living. whens your welfare checks come????
your weak projection humors me. I think some of your brain must have been left behind in a rice field
my genration worked. yours fucks off. ah whats a rice paddy????
Virtually no one in America gets to choose their insurance company, I think you underestimate how much difference a little competition can make.
Who doesn't get to choose their insurance company?
Most companies include medical insurance as part of your compensation so you end up with whoever they choose and virtually every employee is on that plan, or their spouse's employer's plan. Of course they don't reimburse you if you forego their insurance, you're just s.o.l.
The "debunking" by the Real Clear Politics article was amusing. This bit in particular:
.First let's acknowledge that the U.S. medical system has serious problems. But the problems stem from departures from free-market principles. The system is riddled with tax manipulation, costly insurance mandates and bureaucratic interference. Most important, six out of seven health-care dollars are spent by third parties, which means that most consumers exercise no cost-consciousness. As Milton Friedman always pointed out, no one spends other people's money as carefully as he spends his own
I've tried to get some responses on this point about how "free-market forces" should work in health care, but so far haven't been too successful.
Anyone got an idea? I mean apart from the usual sloganeering about "socialised" medicine.
Because heath care reform is something that spans state boundaries, you know, interstate commerce. Something the federal government has the right and responsibility to regulate according to the constitution.Tort reform is a matter for the states. That's where malpractice laws are written.
Oh?
Then why isn't healthcare reform a state issue?