Sundance508
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Where's the logical fallacy?
- "I also now realize, with brutal clarity, that in the progressive hierarchy of identity groups, Muslims are above gays. Every pundit and politician -- and that includes President Obama and Hillary Clinton and half the talking heads on TV -- who today have said ‘We don't know what the shooter's motivation could possibly be!’ have revealed to me their true priorities: appeasing Muslims is more important than defending the lives of gay people. Every progressive who runs interference for Islamic murderers is complicit in those murders, and I can no longer be a part of that team." --
John Hawkins - Why Liberals Support Muslims Who Hate Everything They Stand For
Why do we Liberals support the First Amendment?
Because we believe in the Constitution.
Why do Conservatives believe all Muslims are terrorists?
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If one is a 'constitutionalist aka a believer in the constitution you must support the second amendment as well.
Once again we see the usual fallacious argument of "ALL' not all blacks are criminals...not all muslims are terrorists(btw no one has ever claimed either to be true)such an argument is fallacious as well as irrelevant.
This logical fallacy commonly made by liberals when arguing against the actions of people that follow a particular ideology where instead responding appropriately to the argument at hand, you make an erroneous assertion that the argument only applies to a small subset of people. For example
Me: islam is responsible for more religious violence per capita then any other religion.
You: but not all Muslims are terrorists!.
Lest we forget not 'ALL' Germans were nazis but look what happened there.
"Not all Muslims are terrorists" is a straw man argument.
"Not all Muslims are terrorists" is almost always a straw man argument when deployed in the context of a debate on Islam.
A straw man argument is a type of red herring fallacy. A red herring fallacy is a response to an argument/position that is intended to shift attention away from the real issue at hand. When people say "not all Muslims are terrorists" (or an equivalent phrase, like "only a tiny percentage of Muslims are Al Qaeda) they are shifting attention away from the real issue. Specifically, they are shifting attention away from whatever it is their opponent is actually saying by pretending that their opponent holds a position that they do not -the position that all Muslims are terrorists.
I do not believe that every single Muslim is a terrorist. I have never spoken to anyone who does. Even Pat Robertson doesn't believe this. So to anyone who insists on injecting "not all Muslims are terrorists" into a debate, please be aware that you are almost certainly committing a logical fallacy.
I am opposed to Islam for ideological reasons. My opposition is not based on a mistaken belief that all Muslims are terrorists. Do not impart this belief onto me. I am not opposed to the so called "Ground Zero Mosque", although I can understand the point of view of those who are, and it is not helping the debate to deploy a logical fallacy against them by saying that "not all Muslims are terrorists". From their point of view, you look stupid and ignorant, because you are unwilling to actually respond to their actual beliefs.'