Why Liberals Want To Ban The AR-15

[bigrebnc1775]

Less people are killed with an AR than with a vehicle or even a bat
Now what?

Less people are killed with an AR than with a vehicle or even a bat
Now what?

Now what what? I’m not making an argument for or against the AR I’m explaining the main reason why people support banning it. An obvious point that the OP left out. You don’t seem to be following the discussion.

If you're trying to make a good argument you're failing.

What is the point that I’m making? I’d like to see if you even come close to showing that you understand

You're failing at trying to make a point that's my point.

If you want to ban one you're just as bad as any leftist

but you just called somebody a liar because you claimed that lefties want to ban all guns. How about some humility and you just admit that you were not being honest.

Leftist do want to ban all guns that the fucking plan you dumb son of bitch

I just said that I do t want ban all guns. So how does that factor in. Does that mean I’m not a Leftist?

WOW like all leftist they say one thing get what they want and move on and go for more
You're lying when you say you only want to ban one gun

I just asked for you to show understanding by restating my point as you understand it and your response was that I’m failing?! Is that joke. Can you not answer the question?

And I told you that you are failing at making about. When you build your point on a lie it leads to complete failure

 

[Hum Dinger]

The AR-15 was originally designed as the Armalite AR-15 (aka the M-16):

ArmaLite AR-15 - Wikipedia

This was designed as a military weapon with devastating firepower - far greater than any reasonable civilian weapon.

"had to penetrate a standard U.S. M1 helmet at 500 yards (460 meters) and retain a velocity in excess of the speed of sound, while matching or exceeding the wounding ability of the .30 Carbine cartridge"

That doesn't sound like a defensive weapon or a hunting rifle now does it?

AR's have a purpose and it is to kill as efficiently as possible
They also serve a purpose by keeping my rights where I want them.

If "efficient killing" is your goal then you do then you do not deserve any rights at all.

You belong in a mental institution.

You do not deserve firearm ownership because your thinking will just get your firearm taken from you and your life taken by the one who took it
What is your qualitative experience in the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

When have you, in civilian life, ever had to fight for your life?

Perhaps you've been living in a fantasy world. Watching too many rambo movies.

Perhaps you're an advanced paranoid waiting for some boogey man to threaten you.

I'm a white middle-man who has lived and worked in some of the highest crime areas in the Untied States. I have NEVER felt the need for a weapon.

I suspect that the biggest challenge you have is finding the bottom of a beer can - which explains your paranoid delusions!

 

[BrokeLoser]

so libs want to ban an AR-15

can the gun nuts here tell me why anyone would need one?

~S~

For the same reason I “needed” this.

Because I can...that’s why.

Why did you give a response to the nut case?

Isn’t that what we do here?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Yeah, an observation that has been debunked in every thread on firearms. I'm sure I've seen you in at least a couple of them. So what would you call an observation that has been proven to be untrue?

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im not twisting numbers to form a narrative just providing the most obvious reason for supporting regulation by most people. They hear AR15 and think of most the major mass shootings we’ve had in the USA. Schools, night clubs, churches... that’s why they support regulation. The OP left out the most obvious point.

And the only reason people think that way is due to propaganda pushed by the commiecrats and their lackey media. ARs have lower body counts than fist, feet and clubs, they just get all the publicity. Studies show the last AW ban had no measurable effect on crime. It's all planned to eventually disarm law abiding citizens. That's why I say, NO MORE COMPROMISE!!!!!!!!!!

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How about you list the biggest mass shootings in the US over the past few years and the type of weapon used... I’m not talking about gang homicides in Chicago, I’m talking about mass shootings in public forums... you obviously need to do the research so have fun.

No, I don't need to do any research, you're doing the same thing the commies and media are doing, concentrating on the outliers that account for a very small percentage of overall homicides. Of course their solution is to disadvantage millions of law abiding Americans. I ain't buying it.

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If I’m being dishonest then win the argument by showing a list of the largest mass shootings over the past few years and the guns that were used. Just give an honest response. No spin

The point has been made you don't need an AR to commit mass shootings

 

[Slade3200]

Now what what? I’m not making an argument for or against the AR I’m explaining the main reason why people support banning it. An obvious point that the OP left out. You don’t seem to be following the discussion.

If you're trying to make a good argument you're failing.

What is the point that I’m making? I’d like to see if you even come close to showing that you understand

You're failing at trying to make a point that's my point.

but you just called somebody a liar because you claimed that lefties want to ban all guns. How about some humility and you just admit that you were not being honest.

Leftist do want to ban all guns that the fucking plan you dumb son of bitch

I just said that I do t want ban all guns. So how does that factor in. Does that mean I’m not a Leftist?

WOW like all leftist they say one thing get what they want and move on and go for more
You're lying when you say you only want to ban one gun

I just asked for you to show understanding by restating my point as you understand it and your response was that I’m failing?! Is that joke. Can you not answer the question?

And I told you that you are failing at making about. When you build your point on a lie it leads to complete failure

I’m failing at making about? Man, you need to calm down and take a few breaths. Just admit you have no clue what point ive been trying to make because you are in here trolling. If you could answer the question you would have done so by now. Thanks for playing.

 

[Hum Dinger]

so libs want to ban an AR-15

can the gun nuts here tell me why anyone would need one?

~S~

For the same reason I “needed” this.

Because I can...that’s why.

You're apparently a spoiled little child that does not know the difference between 'want' and 'need'.

So the solution is simple...if you have it because you 'can', the we will simply make sure that you 'can not'.

You can go back to sucking your thumb now.

 

[Slade3200]

im not twisting numbers to form a narrative just providing the most obvious reason for supporting regulation by most people. They hear AR15 and think of most the major mass shootings we’ve had in the USA. Schools, night clubs, churches... that’s why they support regulation. The OP left out the most obvious point.

And the only reason people think that way is due to propaganda pushed by the commiecrats and their lackey media. ARs have lower body counts than fist, feet and clubs, they just get all the publicity. Studies show the last AW ban had no measurable effect on crime. It's all planned to eventually disarm law abiding citizens. That's why I say, NO MORE COMPROMISE!!!!!!!!!!

.

How about you list the biggest mass shootings in the US over the past few years and the type of weapon used... I’m not talking about gang homicides in Chicago, I’m talking about mass shootings in public forums... you obviously need to do the research so have fun.

No, I don't need to do any research, you're doing the same thing the commies and media are doing, concentrating on the outliers that account for a very small percentage of overall homicides. Of course their solution is to disadvantage millions of law abiding Americans. I ain't buying it.

.

If I’m being dishonest then win the argument by showing a list of the largest mass shootings over the past few years and the guns that were used. Just give an honest response. No spin

The point has been made you don't need an AR to commit mass shootings

That point has nothing to do with this conversation. You’re lost

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The AR-15 was originally designed as the Armalite AR-15 (aka the M-16):

ArmaLite AR-15 - Wikipedia

This was designed as a military weapon with devastating firepower - far greater than any reasonable civilian weapon.

"had to penetrate a standard U.S. M1 helmet at 500 yards (460 meters) and retain a velocity in excess of the speed of sound, while matching or exceeding the wounding ability of the .30 Carbine cartridge"

That doesn't sound like a defensive weapon or a hunting rifle now does it?

AR's have a purpose and it is to kill as efficiently as possible
They also serve a purpose by keeping my rights where I want them.

If "efficient killing" is your goal then you do then you do not deserve any rights at all.

You belong in a mental institution.

You do not deserve firearm ownership because your thinking will just get your firearm taken from you and your life taken by the one who took it
What is your qualitative experience in the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?

When have you, in civilian life, ever had to fight for your life?

Perhaps you've been living in a fantasy world. Watching too many rambo movies.

Perhaps you're an advanced paranoid waiting for some boogey man to threaten you.

I'm a white middle-man who has lived and worked in some of the highest crime areas in the Untied States. I have NEVER felt the need for a weapon.

I suspect that the biggest challenge you have is finding the bottom of a beer can - which explains your paranoid delusions!

Sorry You aren't dodging my question
What is your qualitative experience in the use of deadly force? What gives you the ability to have an opinion on what an individual needs to prevail in a fight for their life?
I've been shot at as a cop
I have training is self-defense police officer and military

 

[bigrebnc1775]

And the only reason people think that way is due to propaganda pushed by the commiecrats and their lackey media. ARs have lower body counts than fist, feet and clubs, they just get all the publicity. Studies show the last AW ban had no measurable effect on crime. It's all planned to eventually disarm law abiding citizens. That's why I say, NO MORE COMPROMISE!!!!!!!!!!

.

How about you list the biggest mass shootings in the US over the past few years and the type of weapon used... I’m not talking about gang homicides in Chicago, I’m talking about mass shootings in public forums... you obviously need to do the research so have fun.

No, I don't need to do any research, you're doing the same thing the commies and media are doing, concentrating on the outliers that account for a very small percentage of overall homicides. Of course their solution is to disadvantage millions of law abiding Americans. I ain't buying it.

.

If I’m being dishonest then win the argument by showing a list of the largest mass shootings over the past few years and the guns that were used. Just give an honest response. No spin

The point has been made you don't need an AR to commit mass shootings

That point has nothing to do with this conversation. You’re lost

When you say that you don't want to ban all guns that is a lie and thereby makes any point you are trying to make a failure

 

[bigrebnc1775]

so libs want to ban an AR-15

can the gun nuts here tell me why anyone would need one?

~S~

For the same reason I “needed” this.

Because I can...that’s why.

You're apparently a spoiled little child that does not know the difference between 'want' and 'need'.

So the solution is simple...if you have it because you 'can', the we will simply make sure that you 'can not'.

You can go back to sucking your thumb now.

More leftist delusions

 

[Slade3200]

How about you list the biggest mass shootings in the US over the past few years and the type of weapon used... I’m not talking about gang homicides in Chicago, I’m talking about mass shootings in public forums... you obviously need to do the research so have fun.

No, I don't need to do any research, you're doing the same thing the commies and media are doing, concentrating on the outliers that account for a very small percentage of overall homicides. Of course their solution is to disadvantage millions of law abiding Americans. I ain't buying it.

.

If I’m being dishonest then win the argument by showing a list of the largest mass shootings over the past few years and the guns that were used. Just give an honest response. No spin

The point has been made you don't need an AR to commit mass shootings

That point has nothing to do with this conversation. You’re lost

When you say that you don't want to ban all guns that is a lie and thereby makes any point you are trying to make a failure

You have no way of knowing that’s a lie. Just flinging our an accusation calling me a liar because you can’t keep up in a debate is rather pathetic. Grow up. Do better

 

[Uncensored2008]

***\\\This Is My Opinion///***

I believe Liberals want to ban the AR-15 for two reasons...

1. The AR-15 is scary looking, it's that simple. The AR-15 is scary looking and it's easy to get people to think the AR-15 is bad because of the way it looks.

2. Here's the main reason why Liberals want to ban the AR-15. If Liberals are successful, they can then point to other guns as more powerful and say "We banned the AR-15 so we should ban all of these other weapons because they are more powerful and accurate."

That's why the big push to ban the AR-15.

And you are wrong. No other gun, freely available to civilians, is designed for or capable of killing as many people as possible in as short a time as possible as the AR-15.

Lie much?

 

[Uncensored2008]

***\\\This Is My Opinion///***

I believe Liberals want to ban the AR-15 for two reasons...

1. The AR-15 is scary looking, it's that simple. The AR-15 is scary looking and it's easy to get people to think the AR-15 is bad because of the way it looks.

2. Here's the main reason why Liberals want to ban the AR-15. If Liberals are successful, they can then point to other guns as more powerful and say "We banned the AR-15 so we should ban all of these other weapons because they are more powerful and accurate."

That's why the big push to ban the AR-15.

And you are wrong. No other gun, freely available to civilians, is designed for or capable of killing as many people as possible in as short a time as possible as the AR-15.

Except for this little ranch rifle.

SHHHHHH

You want the Communists coming for those too?

 

[Uncensored2008]

***\\\This Is My Opinion///***

I believe Liberals want to ban the AR-15 for two reasons...

1. The AR-15 is scary looking, it's that simple. The AR-15 is scary looking and it's easy to get people to think the AR-15 is bad because of the way it looks.

2. Here's the main reason why Liberals want to ban the AR-15. If Liberals are successful, they can then point to other guns as more powerful and say "We banned the AR-15 so we should ban all of these other weapons because they are more powerful and accurate."

That's why the big push to ban the AR-15.

And you are wrong. No other gun, freely available to civilians, is designed for or capable of killing as many people as possible in as short a time as possible as the AR-15.

Many handguns hold 15-18 rounds. Handgun are much more mobile and concealable. The rounds they hold can be excessively deadly.

Yes, in some situations, but not as consistently as the AR. The AR's accuracy doesn't degrade any where near as quickly as any other commonly available gun, including pistols, and concealment isn't always an issue.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Tell me about how the "accuracy degrades" in a Glock 17?

Lying moron...

 

[Uncensored2008]

Many handguns hold 15-18 rounds. Handgun are much more mobile and concealable. The rounds they hold can be excessively deadly.

Calibres in handguns with mags holding that many don't have the killing power of AR 15 calibres at the same ranges.

What ranges? Show me a mass shooting that was at more than 25 feet? A .45 auto is FAR more deadly than a .223 at that range.

There's the Texas tower, but he used a bolt action .30-06, not an AR-15

 

[Uncensored2008]

So you think a round from an AR-15 has more killing power than other weapons?

Than calibres from pistols holding 15-18 rounds, at the same ranges, fer shure.

Caliber, moron.

"A disarmed people are an obedient people." - Joseph Stalin, founder of the modern democrat party.

 

[Hum Dinger]

so libs want to ban an AR-15

can the gun nuts here tell me why anyone would need one?

~S~

For the same reason I “needed” this.

Because I can...that’s why.

You're apparently a spoiled little child that does not know the difference between 'want' and 'need'.

So the solution is simple...if you have it because you 'can', the we will simply make sure that you 'can not'.

You can go back to sucking your thumb now.

More leftist delusions

Your way of conceding the argument, huh?

 

[Uncensored2008]

***\\\This Is My Opinion///***

I believe Liberals want to ban the AR-15 for two reasons...

1. The AR-15 is scary looking, it's that simple. The AR-15 is scary looking and it's easy to get people to think the AR-15 is bad because of the way it looks.

2. Here's the main reason why Liberals want to ban the AR-15. If Liberals are successful, they can then point to other guns as more powerful and say "We banned the AR-15 so we should ban all of these other weapons because they are more powerful and accurate."

That's why the big push to ban the AR-15.

And you are wrong. No other gun, freely available to civilians, is designed for or capable of killing as many people as possible in as short a time as possible as the AR-15.

Except for this little ranch rifle.

The Mini14's barrel heats up lots faster than the AR15, and it isn't nearly as dependable under extended use. That's mostly due to the metal used in the barrel. Later models are some better, but still don't compare with te AR. AR sights don't suck like on the mini.

What?

You just make shit up with no regard for facts or reality.

No, the barrel doesn't "heat up faster."

The AR is lighter due to a composite stock and has a pistol grip. Those are really the only functional differences.

 

[2aguy]

The AR-15 was originally designed as the Armalite AR-15 (aka the M-16):

ArmaLite AR-15 - Wikipedia

This was designed as a military weapon with devastating firepower - far greater than any reasonable civilian weapon.

"had to penetrate a standard U.S. M1 helmet at 500 yards (460 meters) and retain a velocity in excess of the speed of sound, while matching or exceeding the wounding ability of the .30 Carbine cartridge"

That doesn't sound like a defensive weapon or a hunting rifle now does it?

The actual AR-15 has never been used by the military has never been used in war...it is no different than any other semi-automatic rifle on the civilian market. You guys keep lying making it easier and easier to see your end game.

The Bolt action deer hunting rifle is a current military weapon.

The pump action, 5 shot, shotgun is a current military weapon.

The AR-15 has never been used by the military.

 

[Slade3200]

so libs want to ban an AR-15

can the gun nuts here tell me why anyone would need one?

~S~

For the same reason I “needed” this.

Because I can...that’s why.

You're apparently a spoiled little child that does not know the difference between 'want' and 'need'.

So the solution is simple...if you have it because you 'can', the we will simply make sure that you 'can not'.

You can go back to sucking your thumb now.

More leftist delusions

Your way of conceding the argument, huh?

this guys a joke, can’t make one substantive point. Runs to the insult barrel instead. Who does he think he’s fooling?