why mental health checks for guns can't pass muster....

[Rustic]

Are you finished deflecting??
Lol

The ones deflecting are the ones afraid of gun control. Now they're down to hairdryer and peanut control. Oh, and bee control. Utterly desperate...

I'm not afraid of gun control. It ain't gonna happen. So no need to be afraid.

Then stop wetting the bed trying desperately to defend you deadly toys. According to you, you have nothing to worry about...

I don't, and you don't have a chance in hell getting what you want, see, you don't have the numbers.

I do have the numbers, which is what scares both you and the NRA. What's lacking, the will to undermine the powers that be. Just a matter of time.

Talk to this guy

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Ah, you want your enemies well-armed? Guns are for protection, right?

never said that, I said, as long as I have choices I have a chance.

So you believe, wrongly. You have no choice on nuclear or biological weapons and you seem to be going about your day just fine.

And hey, look at that. You don't want your enemies well-armed, just like Hitler.

i've never denied anyone the ability to achieve weapons. Sorry.

I'll make it easy for ya. Do you want criminals and ISIS well-armed, yes or no?

I don't care as long as i have resources. hmmmm, thought I made that claim already. I want and equal chance against them and today I have that available to me and I'll fight you and yours harder to maintain that. Again, you don't have the numbers.

It's a yes or no question, that an honest man can answer. Be a man, for once.

 

[Rustic]

never said that, I said, as long as I have choices I have a chance.

So you believe, wrongly. You have no choice on nuclear or biological weapons and you seem to be going about your day just fine.

And hey, look at that. You don't want your enemies well-armed, just like Hitler.

i've never denied anyone the ability to achieve weapons. Sorry.

I'll make it easy for ya. Do you want criminals and ISIS well-armed, yes or no?

I don't care as long as i have resources. hmmmm, thought I made that claim already. I want and equal chance against them and today I have that available to me and I'll fight you and yours harder to maintain that. Again, you don't have the numbers.

It's a yes or no question, that an honest man can answer. Be a man, for once.

Or women...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

So you believe, wrongly. You have no choice on nuclear or biological weapons and you seem to be going about your day just fine.

And hey, look at that. You don't want your enemies well-armed, just like Hitler.

i've never denied anyone the ability to achieve weapons. Sorry.

I'll make it easy for ya. Do you want criminals and ISIS well-armed, yes or no?

I don't care as long as i have resources. hmmmm, thought I made that claim already. I want and equal chance against them and today I have that available to me and I'll fight you and yours harder to maintain that. Again, you don't have the numbers.

It's a yes or no question, that an honest man can answer. Be a man, for once.

Or women...

So you want ISIS and criminals to be well-armed, therefore equal. Got it.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Easy fix, no guns.

You guys had the same solution to free blacks....no votes. that wasn't acceptable either.

The Founders wrote All Men Were Created Equal, an obvious lie. I'm much more honest.

They also wrote the second amendment
If you want to change it there is a process so you'd better get started

 

[2aguy]

Don't need to, I live in north western South Dakota. I don't even know if I have a key to my home doors haven't locked them in years...

So you leave your house completely unlocked, windows down?

Same with your car and place of business, huh?

My house, sure.
My business I keep locked, obviously, mostly because of the liability reasons, I rarely lock my vehicle.

Why? Criminals will be criminals. Locks can be bypassed.

Why would you *ever* lock your vehicle if you believe what you do about criminals?

I travel a fair amount, and a byproduct of socialism is high rate of criminal behavior.

What relevance would that have? Since criminals will be criminals, what would be the point in locking any doors?

Um, ever?

And a few more points on locks.......

-especially if you are home...and the criminal knows you are home and is breaking in anyway...it takes more time and makes more noise to get past a lock..that gives you time to call the police and get your gun if it isn't in a holster on your hip.....the noise will also alert your dog if you have one...

Predfan and I post all the time the stories of people who hear a noise and when they investigate it it is someone breaking through a locked window or door....and then they are held for police, scared off or shot by the armed home owner.....

Please do some research before you post.....

 

[2aguy]

That's why we want the guns. End of debate.

So… You want the criminals to have the guns?? I see

Nope. In the end, no guns at all, for anyone. Clear?

And at one time there were not guns in existence...and the strong made slaves of the weak...for most of human history...until guns came along and ended slavery....

Guns ended slavery here and that's about it. Most people were not as bad as Whitey Southern "Americans".

Slavery existed throughout the entire world twit......it was here before the Europeans arrived and it is still in Africa.......

Do you read anything about human history....at all?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Easy fix, no guns.

You guys had the same solution to free blacks....no votes. that wasn't acceptable either.

The Founders wrote All Men Were Created Equal, an obvious lie. I'm much more honest.

They also wrote the second amendment
If you want to change it there is a process so you'd better get started

Just a matter of time, especially with you dicks shooting up cops and schools...

 

[2aguy]

You and Joe should get together and compare penises since this seems to be all you have on your brain…
Lol

It is odd that they are so focused on that........I say they should just buy a gun...since they really want to......kind of like they are in the closet gun nuts.......but not like normal gun people...the really nutty gun nutter........and they just have to admit it to themselves before they hurt someone...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

That's why we want the guns. End of debate.

So… You want the criminals to have the guns?? I see

Nope. In the end, no guns at all, for anyone. Clear?

And at one time there were not guns in existence...and the strong made slaves of the weak...for most of human history...until guns came along and ended slavery....

Guns ended slavery here and that's about it. Most people were not as bad as Whitey Southern "Americans".

Slavery existed throughout the entire world twit......it was here before the Europeans arrived and it is still in Africa.......

Do you read anything about human history....at all?

What part of guns ended slavery (his statement) did you miss? Name where else that was true?

 

[2aguy]

Easy fix, no guns.

You guys had the same solution to free blacks....no votes. that wasn't acceptable either.

The Founders wrote All Men Were Created Equal, an obvious lie. I'm much more honest.

They also wrote the second amendment
If you want to change it there is a process so you'd better get started

Just a matter of time, especially with you dicks shooting up cops and schools...

Democrats are shooting the police......and they are of the actual street criminal variety of criminal....

 

[2aguy]

So… You want the criminals to have the guns?? I see

Nope. In the end, no guns at all, for anyone. Clear?

And at one time there were not guns in existence...and the strong made slaves of the weak...for most of human history...until guns came along and ended slavery....

Guns ended slavery here and that's about it. Most people were not as bad as Whitey Southern "Americans".

Slavery existed throughout the entire world twit......it was here before the Europeans arrived and it is still in Africa.......

Do you read anything about human history....at all?

What part of guns ended slavery (his statement) did you miss? Name where else that was true?

The British used guns on their ships to end the slave trade....Russia, Europe......wherever guns came into play feudalism ended......and the slavery of serfdom and even outright slavery......

 

[Rustic]

i've never denied anyone the ability to achieve weapons. Sorry.

I'll make it easy for ya. Do you want criminals and ISIS well-armed, yes or no?

I don't care as long as i have resources. hmmmm, thought I made that claim already. I want and equal chance against them and today I have that available to me and I'll fight you and yours harder to maintain that. Again, you don't have the numbers.

It's a yes or no question, that an honest man can answer. Be a man, for once.

Or women...

So you want ISIS and criminals to be well-armed, therefore equal. Got it.

They are not American citizens are they?? So no...it would be nice though if Muslim countries were to arm their women then there would be some equalization there. Huh?
Because Lord knows there is no equal treatment of women in any Muslim controlled country…

 

[2aguy]

Defense: (locks)

Offense: (guns)

what is the purpose of a sword?

You tell me, is it for Defense? Or to kill the enemy with?

Just look them, charging forward to "protect" themselves or, maybe not...

what was a bow and arrow designed for? Seems your gun fetish isn't the only tool you should be looking at eliminating. Seems there are back ups.

Then you have to get rid of knives, you know Jack the ripper style attacks. then what, baseball bats, then clubs, hammers, axes, chain saws, mowers, chipping machines, long sticks, seems there is almost nothing that can't be a weapon. even a tootbrush handle

What can be used as a weapon is not the same is what is designed as a weapon. I'm okay with banning swords as well, they just don't kill 30,000 people a year here...

They used to......then the weak got guns and they stopped the stronger guys who had swords.

 

[Wry Catcher]

This is one reason mental health checks for gun purchases can't pass muster.......they take too long. and the number of normal people buying guns vs. the criminals and crazies make it an undue burden on the Rights of law abiding citizens......which is why anti gun leadership is pushing for them......and their minions are following their lead...

As the article points out...this same tactic was used to disarm blacks after Republicans freed them.......the democrats kept blacks from getting guns through techniques like this.......

"Klan Compromise" Forces Sheriff To Break Gun Laws In NC

North Carolina’s relatively new (December 1, 2015) requirement to have mental health background checks on handgun purchasers hasn’t saved any lives, but it sure has created a mess as antiquated record-keeping systems run headlong into legal requirements for a timely search compounded by the demands of the North Carolina Sheriff’s Association to keep a Jim Crow-era pistol permitting system in place last year.

It may soon take as long to get a handgun as it does to get a machine gun. This is entirely absurd.

To get a gun permit in Mecklenburg County, there is a wait.

“It takes 10 days in California, six to seven weeks in Mecklenburg and now were hearing it might be six months,” said Larry Hyatt, gun store owner. “It’s totally unacceptable.”

Hyatt runs one of the busiest gun stores in the country. But there is nothing busy about a shelf in his store.
“These are handguns on hold while people are waiting for their permits,” Hyatt said while pointing at guns. “And this is just the G’s and H’s. There is almost 500 handguns waiting for permits.”

The number of permit requests flowing through the clerk’s office has been consistent, averaging 130 per month. But then in December, the number exploded to more than 2,000. And last month it was more than 2,500.

----------------.

Part of that compromise gave sheriffs only 14 days to approve or deny permits. The problem is the mental health checks have been taking far longer than two weeks.

“So it kind of puts us in a dilemma,” said Sheriff Irwin Carmichael, Mecklenburg County. “So we go ahead and issue permits and let everyone know in 14 days or wait till we get all of this medical information back? I’m always going to err on the side of safety.”

Translation: the new law is forcing the sheriff to break the law to keep the public safe.

So rather than speed up the mental health background checks.....you insist that we have none?

Same with criminal background checks I suppose?

And do you even bother with locks on your doors? Even bother to lock the doors on your car? Because you know those can be circumvented.

Criminals will be criminals that's why they are called criminals no Amount of new laws will change that.dumbass

So....why do you lock your doors?

Don't need to, I live in north western South Dakota. I don't even know if I have a key to my home doors haven't locked them in years...

That's great, S. Dakota residents don't need guns if what you say is true. Sadly, S. Dakota isn't NY or CA or any other state in our nation. Thus, let's toss out Heller and allow we the people in each state and each city / county to decide on who can and who cannot own, possess or have in their custody and control a gun, how it must be stored and the type of firearm legally possessed.

 

[Rustic]

Easy fix, no guns.

You guys had the same solution to free blacks....no votes. that wasn't acceptable either.

The Founders wrote All Men Were Created Equal, an obvious lie. I'm much more honest.

They also wrote the second amendment
If you want to change it there is a process so you'd better get started

Just a matter of time, especially with you dicks shooting up cops and schools...

There you go again, deflecting
Lol

 

[2aguy]

what was a bow and arrow designed for? Seems your gun fetish isn't the only tool you should be looking at eliminating. Seems there are back ups.

Then you have to get rid of knives, you know Jack the ripper style attacks. then what, baseball bats, then clubs, hammers, axes, chain saws, mowers, chipping machines, long sticks, seems there is almost nothing that can't be a weapon. even a tootbrush handle

What can be used as a weapon is not the same is what is designed as a weapon. I'm okay with banning swords as well, they just don't kill 30,000 people a year here...

vehicles do.

Again, not weapons.

so, I answered your question. Why does it matter its purpose if it achieves the same outcome?

The purpose of a gun is to kill. Like a biological weapon you don't need that to go to the Walmart, especially when no one else has one either.

No...wrong again...the purpose of the gun is to save the life of the user. And many times it is never even fired to save the life....

 

[Rustic]

This is one reason mental health checks for gun purchases can't pass muster.......they take too long. and the number of normal people buying guns vs. the criminals and crazies make it an undue burden on the Rights of law abiding citizens......which is why anti gun leadership is pushing for them......and their minions are following their lead...

As the article points out...this same tactic was used to disarm blacks after Republicans freed them.......the democrats kept blacks from getting guns through techniques like this.......

"Klan Compromise" Forces Sheriff To Break Gun Laws In NC

North Carolina’s relatively new (December 1, 2015) requirement to have mental health background checks on handgun purchasers hasn’t saved any lives, but it sure has created a mess as antiquated record-keeping systems run headlong into legal requirements for a timely search compounded by the demands of the North Carolina Sheriff’s Association to keep a Jim Crow-era pistol permitting system in place last year.

It may soon take as long to get a handgun as it does to get a machine gun. This is entirely absurd.

To get a gun permit in Mecklenburg County, there is a wait.

“It takes 10 days in California, six to seven weeks in Mecklenburg and now were hearing it might be six months,” said Larry Hyatt, gun store owner. “It’s totally unacceptable.”

Hyatt runs one of the busiest gun stores in the country. But there is nothing busy about a shelf in his store.
“These are handguns on hold while people are waiting for their permits,” Hyatt said while pointing at guns. “And this is just the G’s and H’s. There is almost 500 handguns waiting for permits.”

The number of permit requests flowing through the clerk’s office has been consistent, averaging 130 per month. But then in December, the number exploded to more than 2,000. And last month it was more than 2,500.

----------------.

Part of that compromise gave sheriffs only 14 days to approve or deny permits. The problem is the mental health checks have been taking far longer than two weeks.

“So it kind of puts us in a dilemma,” said Sheriff Irwin Carmichael, Mecklenburg County. “So we go ahead and issue permits and let everyone know in 14 days or wait till we get all of this medical information back? I’m always going to err on the side of safety.”

Translation: the new law is forcing the sheriff to break the law to keep the public safe.

So rather than speed up the mental health background checks.....you insist that we have none?

Same with criminal background checks I suppose?

And do you even bother with locks on your doors? Even bother to lock the doors on your car? Because you know those can be circumvented.

Criminals will be criminals that's why they are called criminals no Amount of new laws will change that.dumbass

So....why do you lock your doors?

Don't need to, I live in north western South Dakota. I don't even know if I have a key to my home doors haven't locked them in years...

That's great, S. Dakota residents don't need guns if what you say is true. Sadly, S. Dakota isn't NY or CA or any other state in our nation. Thus, let's toss out Heller and allow we the people in each state and each city / county to decide on who can and who cannot own, possess or have in their custody and control a gun, how it must be stored and the type of firearm legally possessed.

 

[2aguy]

This is one reason mental health checks for gun purchases can't pass muster.......they take too long. and the number of normal people buying guns vs. the criminals and crazies make it an undue burden on the Rights of law abiding citizens......which is why anti gun leadership is pushing for them......and their minions are following their lead...

As the article points out...this same tactic was used to disarm blacks after Republicans freed them.......the democrats kept blacks from getting guns through techniques like this.......

"Klan Compromise" Forces Sheriff To Break Gun Laws In NC

North Carolina’s relatively new (December 1, 2015) requirement to have mental health background checks on handgun purchasers hasn’t saved any lives, but it sure has created a mess as antiquated record-keeping systems run headlong into legal requirements for a timely search compounded by the demands of the North Carolina Sheriff’s Association to keep a Jim Crow-era pistol permitting system in place last year.

It may soon take as long to get a handgun as it does to get a machine gun. This is entirely absurd.

To get a gun permit in Mecklenburg County, there is a wait.

“It takes 10 days in California, six to seven weeks in Mecklenburg and now were hearing it might be six months,” said Larry Hyatt, gun store owner. “It’s totally unacceptable.”

Hyatt runs one of the busiest gun stores in the country. But there is nothing busy about a shelf in his store.
“These are handguns on hold while people are waiting for their permits,” Hyatt said while pointing at guns. “And this is just the G’s and H’s. There is almost 500 handguns waiting for permits.”

The number of permit requests flowing through the clerk’s office has been consistent, averaging 130 per month. But then in December, the number exploded to more than 2,000. And last month it was more than 2,500.

----------------.

Part of that compromise gave sheriffs only 14 days to approve or deny permits. The problem is the mental health checks have been taking far longer than two weeks.

“So it kind of puts us in a dilemma,” said Sheriff Irwin Carmichael, Mecklenburg County. “So we go ahead and issue permits and let everyone know in 14 days or wait till we get all of this medical information back? I’m always going to err on the side of safety.”

Translation: the new law is forcing the sheriff to break the law to keep the public safe.

So rather than speed up the mental health background checks.....you insist that we have none?

Same with criminal background checks I suppose?

And do you even bother with locks on your doors? Even bother to lock the doors on your car? Because you know those can be circumvented.

Criminals will be criminals that's why they are called criminals no Amount of new laws will change that.dumbass

So....why do you lock your doors?

Don't need to, I live in north western South Dakota. I don't even know if I have a key to my home doors haven't locked them in years...

That's great, S. Dakota residents don't need guns if what you say is true. Sadly, S. Dakota isn't NY or CA or any other state in our nation. Thus, let's toss out Heller and allow we the people in each state and each city / county to decide on who can and who cannot own, possess or have in their custody and control a gun, how it must be stored and the type of firearm legally possessed.

And like the old South you would have been one of the guys determining how blacks should be allowed to vote...how much they paid in Poll Taxes and what kind of Literacy test they had to take...then people like you would determine where on a bus a black could sit...

We know how you nuts feel about basic human Rights and that is why they had to spell them out for you in the Bill of Rights.......twit.

 

[Skylar]

So rather than speed up the mental health background checks.....you insist that we have none?

Same with criminal background checks I suppose?

And do you even bother with locks on your doors? Even bother to lock the doors on your car? Because you know those can be circumvented.

Criminals will be criminals that's why they are called criminals no Amount of new laws will change that.dumbass

So....why do you lock your doors?

Don't need to, I live in north western South Dakota. I don't even know if I have a key to my home doors haven't locked them in years...

That's great, S. Dakota residents don't need guns if what you say is true. Sadly, S. Dakota isn't NY or CA or any other state in our nation. Thus, let's toss out Heller and allow we the people in each state and each city / county to decide on who can and who cannot own, possess or have in their custody and control a gun, how it must be stored and the type of firearm legally possessed.

So trying to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill.....is like Hitler?

So you want criminals and the mentally ill to have guns?

Because what I'm advocating is simply to check.