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Ukraine's opposition has asserted its authority over Kiev and parliament in a day of fast-paced events.

MPs have replace the parliamentary speaker and attorney general, appointed a new pro-opposition interior minister and voted to free jailed opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko.

Police appear to have abandoned their posts across the capital.

Protesters in Kiev have walked unchallenged into the president's official and residential buildings.

President Viktor Yanukovych and opposition leaders signed a peace deal on Friday after several days of violence in which dozens of people died in a police crackdown on months of protest.

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BBC correspondents in Ukraine

Kevin Bishop‏@bishopk: A man cleans the streets outside an empty presidency. An ordered transfer of power seems under way.

Kevin Bishop ‏@bishopk: Muffled footsteps, low voices. Protesters walking slowly through the barricades to view what they've achieved

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Duncan Crawford @_DuncanC: Lines of protesters - all in hard helmets, some of them armed with sticks - now guard the road outside the president's office.

This is where President Yanukovych and his staff normally work. All the doors are locked. There are a few security guards. Relaxed, smiling but not jubilant, protesters here say they want to restore order and avoid provocation, to bring life back to normal.

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Daniel Sandford ‏@BBCDanielS: So the next moves will be made in Kharkiv, Donetsk and Crimea. Big, big decisions for eastern Ukraine and Russia. Enormous stakes.

Daniel Sandford ‏@BBCDanielS: In the absence of a president (missing) and a prime minister, the new speaker Turchynov is effectively the leader in Kiev at this moment.

But the deal failed to end the protests and huge crowds remain in Independence Square, the Maidan.

The opposition have called for elections before 25 May, earlier than envisaged in Friday's peace deal.

The president's whereabouts are unclear - his aides say he is in Kharkhiv, close to the border with Russia.

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I like that part about the presidents whereabouts being unclear...


BBC News - Ukraine crisis: Opposition asserts authority in Kiev
 
Ukraine's opposition has asserted its authority over Kiev and parliament in a day of fast-paced events.

MPs have replace the parliamentary speaker and attorney general, appointed a new pro-opposition interior minister and voted to free jailed opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko.

Police appear to have abandoned their posts across the capital.

Protesters in Kiev have walked unchallenged into the president's official and residential buildings.

President Viktor Yanukovych and opposition leaders signed a peace deal on Friday after several days of violence in which dozens of people died in a police crackdown on months of protest.

Continue reading the main story
BBC correspondents in Ukraine

Kevin Bishop‏@bishopk: A man cleans the streets outside an empty presidency. An ordered transfer of power seems under way.

Kevin Bishop ‏@bishopk: Muffled footsteps, low voices. Protesters walking slowly through the barricades to view what they've achieved

Continue reading the main story
Duncan Crawford @_DuncanC: Lines of protesters - all in hard helmets, some of them armed with sticks - now guard the road outside the president's office.

This is where President Yanukovych and his staff normally work. All the doors are locked. There are a few security guards. Relaxed, smiling but not jubilant, protesters here say they want to restore order and avoid provocation, to bring life back to normal.

Continue reading the main story
Daniel Sandford ‏@BBCDanielS: So the next moves will be made in Kharkiv, Donetsk and Crimea. Big, big decisions for eastern Ukraine and Russia. Enormous stakes.

Daniel Sandford ‏@BBCDanielS: In the absence of a president (missing) and a prime minister, the new speaker Turchynov is effectively the leader in Kiev at this moment.

But the deal failed to end the protests and huge crowds remain in Independence Square, the Maidan.

The opposition have called for elections before 25 May, earlier than envisaged in Friday's peace deal.

The president's whereabouts are unclear - his aides say he is in Kharkhiv, close to the border with Russia.

>>>>>>>>

I like that part about the presidents whereabouts being unclear...


BBC News - Ukraine crisis: Opposition asserts authority in Kiev

the bbc seems much more willing to report the obvious

rejection by the peoples of the former government

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The parliament building was guarded by protesters on Saturday morning

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One group of protesters has been driving around Independence Square in a military vehicle
 
We are too busy watching TV to give a fuck, too cowardly to take to the streets in mass protests. We have organized political rallies that scare no one in power and are entirely too peaceful. Anarchy works but we are so immunized against it that our plutocrats feel more secure than any plutocrats in the world.
 
The leftwing hacks are digging a huge hole for themselves. We only need to wait it out until enough people realize it isn't going to get better no matter how vigorously the media polishes its' favorite turd.
 
Why not here?
I nominate you, deltex, to start this movement!

Of course if you do, that would require you to relinquish your sole reason for living, internet anonymity.

And I doubt a gutless coward such as yourself would be willing to do that.
 
Oh, you losers. We the People are not going to let the 10% on either the Far Right or the Far Left overthrow what we have as a country.

Don't like it. Oppose it in the old way: elections.
 
Why not here?
Because yours is the pathetic, delusional fantasy of a partisan rightwing hack.

You would never get enough people to care enough to protest like they are in the Ukraine. This country, despite some people not totally approving of the current administration, despite the poor economy, despite other issues, is still a generally safe, good place to live. The problems we have can be and will be dealt with through elections. If you don't like the current administration, then vote for someone better, if you can find someone better. Vote for or against any measures that come up on the ballot. People here spout off a lot, but the reality is they have it better than most people, and they know it.
 
You would never get enough people to care enough to protest like they are in the Ukraine. This country, despite some people not totally approving of the current administration, despite the poor economy, despite other issues, is still a generally safe, good place to live. The problems we have can be and will be dealt with through elections. If you don't like the current administration, then vote for someone better, if you can find someone better. Vote for or against any measures that come up on the ballot. People here spout off a lot, but the reality is they have it better than most people, and they know it.
That's a good post. But to complete the picture I'd like to point out that you don't see the riots, protests, marches, effigies, posters, movies, occupying etc., etc. from the right like we see chronically form the left. A peaceful Tea Party rally is enough to make them foam over. The right isn't the ones with a problem with civility.
 
We are too busy watching TV to give a fuck, too cowardly to take to the streets in mass protests. We have organized political rallies that scare no one in power and are entirely too peaceful. Anarchy works but we are so immunized against it that our plutocrats feel more secure than any plutocrats in the world.

Anarchy doesn't work. It has very little to do with television or cowardice.
We have a system in place to overthrow the government and we use it every two years.
Perhaps the reason anarchy never takes root and violent solutions are not in favor is because there isn't enough strife hence no need for anarchistic or violent solutions. Hoping for more isn't gaining much favor either...ask the Congress.

I have faith in the No Labels movement (nolabels.org). We could use some help.
 
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