Why Rural America Voted for Trump

[Meathead]

Look at the malakas here who now want big government to give them free handouts. How cute

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[Spare_change]

What a totally asinine, immature post.

Do you still care about the debt too? You small government types change the second you are in charge

It is absolutely nonsensical to claim that you are interested in lowering the debt, but your suggestion is to punish others. We all got into this debt, and we're all going to get out. Punishing seniors, rural residents, or ---OMG - conservatives without willing to share in the pain is a childish and immature approach.

Frankly, you need to grow up.

That's not even what we're talking about. Run along chimp

Actually, your post #44 brought up the debt - though you had several references prior to that.

That's the thing about stupidity (and lies) - it's hard to keep straight what you said when, and to whom. Your penchant for "bending" the truth is, simply, amateurish.

Your precious little rant was ever so cute ... but it's time for you to back into the basement. Mommy will call you for dinner.

I simply mentioned the debt as an example. Try to address the main point if you can

This is what cons do. Miss the point and laser focus on the irrilivent side note

An example of what? Your unwillingness to participate in our form of government? Your complete abdication of your responsibilities as an American?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago

Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.

They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.

They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.

Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.

For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.

“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.

“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”

He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”

...

While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.

Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.

Why Rural America Voted for Trump

Rural America voted more for Romney than Trump.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago

Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.

They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.

They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.

Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.

For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.

“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.

“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”

He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”

...

While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.

Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.

Why Rural America Voted for Trump

Not sure what I like about this thread the most. Your post or how fast and numerous the lefties jumped in here to prove your point.

What was his point that rural people are hypocrites who won't pay for their own mail or internet?

It's not profitable for a company to run internet out to your farm so you want government to tax us and pay for it.

If you pieces of shit voted democratic I'd want you to have it but now I think you should pay to have the work done yourself.

It's about $10k to hook your farm up with internet. How dare you rural takers come crawling for handouts you want. Pay yourself

Nobody on the right has ever said the government needs to get us hillbilly's some o' dat dar interwebs fer free ya'll!

You stupid fucks are the ones claiming that's what we need. Not us.

BTW- We can get internet anywhere out here for less than 50 bucks a month using our cell phone's as hot spots. Fucking shocking I know but we actually have Iphone's and Androids just like ya'll city slickers. We even use 'em to count cows and shit. I was needin' some tractor parts last week and if'n ya can believe it I got on my fancy phone and went to the local Deer dealer website and ordered myself up some parts, was kinda surprised they had such thing myself. If'n my nephew hadn't tolt me about dis website thing I'da never knowed ya could do such a thing. Here's the crazy thing, shocked the piss outta me, some guy in a truck callin' hiself Fedex stopped by my place and dropped them parts off right at my door! I shit you not! Right thar on my damn porch!

The only thing more pathetic about a liberal than being a liberal is how you assholes never fail to find ways to talk down to people. Like without you we can't have internet, blacks can't vote if you don't save them from getting ID's, those dumb Mexican kids will never get in college with those high white people from the city standards. You would think in the last few weeks you morons would have begun trying to figure out where you went wrong. But hell no, apparently you're going to double down.

 

[Missourian]

Ignorance! Trump's "poorly educated" cult.

That makes me lol...since most liberals that I know...and the ones I've interacted with on this site are incapable of doing anything themselves.

 

[Missourian]

The Russians will be grateful for your vote.

I was a soldier. I learned how to kill Soviets...how to deploy a minefield to effectively destoy T72s and BMPs, how far to lead Hinds and Migs with machine gun fire and where the vulnerability were located to shoot them down, how to lure a Motorized Rifle Company into a double envelopment by feigning a center collapse.

But the Russians aren't my enemy anymore...you are.

 

[Eloy]

The Russians will be grateful for your vote.

I was a soldier. I learned how to kill Soviets...how to deploy a minefield to effectively destoy T72s and BMPs, how far to lead Hinds and Migs with machine gun fire and where the vulnerability were located to shoot them down, how to lure a Motorized Rifle Company into a double envelopment by feigning a center collapse.

But the Russians aren't my enemy anymore...you are.

So the Russians will be delighted to know they are not your enemy., especially after all the training you had.

 

[koshergrl]

The Russians will be grateful for your vote.

I was a soldier. I learned how to kill Soviets...how to deploy a minefield to effectively destoy T72s and BMPs, how far to lead Hinds and Migs with machine gun fire and where the vulnerability were located to shoot them down, how to lure a Motorized Rifle Company into a double envelopment by feigning a center collapse.

But the Russians aren't my enemy anymore...you are.

So the Russians will be delighted to know they are not your enemy., especially after all the training you had.

Right now commies like you pose a greater threat to democracy than the Russians do.

 

[Timmy]

I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago

Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.

They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.

They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.

Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.

For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.

“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.

“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”

He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”

...

While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.

Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.

Why Rural America Voted for Trump

I love how these farmers act like they ain't takers .

Playa please ! Two words "Farm Bill".

Is there even another industry that gets more gov breaks than farming ???

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/econo...cles/2016-03-31/farm-bill-costs-are-exploding

 

[owebo]

Rural America voted for a totally inexperienced candidate who gave them HOPE because they wanted CHANGE.

Deja vu all over again.

They didn't vote for your Hillary.....

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago

Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.

They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.

They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.

Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.

For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.

“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.

“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”

He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”

...

While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.

Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.

Why Rural America Voted for Trump

I love how these farmers act like they ain't takers .

Playa please ! Two words "Farm Bill".

Is there even another industry that gets more gov breaks than farming ???

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/econo...cles/2016-03-31/farm-bill-costs-are-exploding

Farmers don't get those deals you moron. Massive farming corporations do. Have you had your head so far up your ass you never heard of the death of the family farm? Some singer actually held a benefit concert for it called Farm Aid.

 

[BluesLegend]

Dem's have hated rural Americans for decades but when we snatched victory from Hillary at the last moment they lost it. Its a foaming at the mouth hatred now. That's why its so funny that Hillary lost

 

[Missourian]

So the Russians will be delighted to know they are not your enemy., especially after all the training you had.

Why should they be my enemy. If you want to fight the Russians, I would suggest you enlist and get some training. We're tired of being your nanny. You want a liberal European utopia...it's time to stop relying on us and budget some money to defend it yourselves.

 

[Missourian]

Republicans don't mind forcing us city folk to pay for their sorry asses.

The Broadband Connections for Rural Opportunities Program Act is meant to close the rural digital divide by providing new federal grants for high-speed broadband buildouts to supplement the money already available through the USDA's Rural Utilities Service.

It would also double the RUS broadband program funding to $50 million.

Sens. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) have introduced a bill to boost rural broadband in rural and tribal areas.

Having high-speed broadband is an national infrastructure asset for public services, schools and colleges, businesses, and citizens. Its is for the national good and deserves federal support.

As a liberal I agree but as a con I say fuck those rural fucks. Let them pay out of pocket to lay the wire out to their rural farms. They mock us city folk because we don't live their way of live, well welcome to free market capitalism. Corporations won't pay to lay the pipe or wire because it's not profitable. So these red fucks want us to chip in so they can have high speed? Fuck that!

This is the same reason we came up with the post office, which by the way cons hate that too. But we said, "it's not fair the rural fucks out in BFE have to pay so much to have a mailman deliver mail. So we pooled our resources and spread the cost out so it costs them the same to mail a letter as it does us, even though we are in heavily populated areas. I say again, fuck that. Let them pay $30 to mail a fucking letter. If it's not profitable for the post office to send a mailman out to pick up your fucking letter then lets run the Post Office like a business and charge those cock suckers a lot to pick up their mail. Maybe then they'll get it.

Uh...we already did that at least 60 years ago. It's called a Utility Cooperative...or Co-Op for short. The customers own the utility and profits are reinvested. Out here we are on an electric co-op, not this one, but one just like it.

Welcome to Laclede Electric | Laclede Electric

We also have a much different postal system than you do. Our mail carriers provide their own vehicles, they don't wear uniforms, and they bid on their routes. Our mail delivery is MUCH faster and cheaper than what it is in the city.

Contract Delivery Service

So I'm afraid it is YOU who are already paying more for electricity AND would be paying more for mail delivery.

 

[sealybobo]

I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago

Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.

They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.

They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.

Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.

For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.

“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.

“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”

He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”

...

While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.

Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.

Why Rural America Voted for Trump

Not sure what I like about this thread the most. Your post or how fast and numerous the lefties jumped in here to prove your point.

What was his point that rural people are hypocrites who won't pay for their own mail or internet?

It's not profitable for a company to run internet out to your farm so you want government to tax us and pay for it.

If you pieces of shit voted democratic I'd want you to have it but now I think you should pay to have the work done yourself.

It's about $10k to hook your farm up with internet. How dare you rural takers come crawling for handouts you want. Pay yourself

$10K? What are you doing??? Delivering it in trucks with golden tires???

If you're going to tell lies - and you most certainly do that - the least you could do is sprinkle SOME modicum of truth in the bullshit. (It helps hold it together)

Well then pay yourselves whatever it is.

To a con isn't it unconstitutional to tax for something the free market should provide?

 

[sealybobo]

I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago

Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.

They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.

They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.

Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.

For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.

“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.

“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”

He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”

...

While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.

Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.

Why Rural America Voted for Trump

Not sure what I like about this thread the most. Your post or how fast and numerous the lefties jumped in here to prove your point.

What was his point that rural people are hypocrites who won't pay for their own mail or internet?

It's not profitable for a company to run internet out to your farm so you want government to tax us and pay for it.

If you pieces of shit voted democratic I'd want you to have it but now I think you should pay to have the work done yourself.

It's about $10k to hook your farm up with internet. How dare you rural takers come crawling for handouts you want. Pay yourself

Up here in the northern plains we have Great high-speed Internet… Paid for by oil/coal companies.

Well here in rural Michigan trump country the Hicks want big government to tax us all so they can get it. Companies aren't in a hurry to do it because hick farms are too few and far in between so it's not profitable for them to lay the tracks but you can be sure after government lays it for them corporations will be more than happy to sell the Hicks service for $100 a month. And they'll go on the internet and tell everyone how government is too big.

Stupid cons

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago

Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.

They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.

They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.

Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.

For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.

“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.

“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”

He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”

...

While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.

Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.

Why Rural America Voted for Trump

Not sure what I like about this thread the most. Your post or how fast and numerous the lefties jumped in here to prove your point.

What was his point that rural people are hypocrites who won't pay for their own mail or internet?

It's not profitable for a company to run internet out to your farm so you want government to tax us and pay for it.

If you pieces of shit voted democratic I'd want you to have it but now I think you should pay to have the work done yourself.

It's about $10k to hook your farm up with internet. How dare you rural takers come crawling for handouts you want. Pay yourself

Up here in the northern plains we have Great high-speed Internet… Paid for by oil/coal companies.

Well here in rural Michigan trump country the Hicks want big government to tax us all so they can get it. Companies aren't in a hurry to do it because hick farms are too few and far in between so it's not profitable for them to lay the tracks but you can be sure after government lays it for them corporations will be more than happy to sell the Hicks service for $100 a month. And they'll go on the internet and tell everyone how government is too big.

Stupid cons

Hold on here. You're in rural Michigan with internet access because you posted this and you have decided everyone there is primarily motivated by paying more taxes for the internet that you are already on.

 

[sealybobo]

Republicans don't mind forcing us city folk to pay for their sorry asses.

The Broadband Connections for Rural Opportunities Program Act is meant to close the rural digital divide by providing new federal grants for high-speed broadband buildouts to supplement the money already available through the USDA's Rural Utilities Service.

It would also double the RUS broadband program funding to $50 million.

Sens. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) have introduced a bill to boost rural broadband in rural and tribal areas.

Having high-speed broadband is an national infrastructure asset for public services, schools and colleges, businesses, and citizens. Its is for the national good and deserves federal support.

As a liberal I agree but as a con I say fuck those rural fucks. Let them pay out of pocket to lay the wire out to their rural farms. They mock us city folk because we don't live their way of live, well welcome to free market capitalism. Corporations won't pay to lay the pipe or wire because it's not profitable. So these red fucks want us to chip in so they can have high speed? Fuck that!

This is the same reason we came up with the post office, which by the way cons hate that too. But we said, "it's not fair the rural fucks out in BFE have to pay so much to have a mailman deliver mail. So we pooled our resources and spread the cost out so it costs them the same to mail a letter as it does us, even though we are in heavily populated areas. I say again, fuck that. Let them pay $30 to mail a fucking letter. If it's not profitable for the post office to send a mailman out to pick up your fucking letter then lets run the Post Office like a business and charge those cock suckers a lot to pick up their mail. Maybe then they'll get it.

Uh...we already did that at least 60 years ago. It's called a Utility Cooperative...or Co-Op for short. The customers own the utility and profits are reinvested. Out here we are on an electric co-op, not this one, but one just like it.

Welcome to Laclede Electric | Laclede Electric

We also have a much different postal system than you do. Our mail carriers provide their own vehicles, they don't wear uniforms, and they bid on their routes. Our mail delivery is MUCH faster and cheaper than what it is in the city.

Contract Delivery Service

So I'm afraid it is YOU who are already paying more for electricity AND would be paying more for mail delivery.

Yea right. A mailman stops at one place for all the people in my condo. They drive to your hick farm then to the next hick farm.

And do you know what a big business coupons in the mail is? No you don't because you're a hick.

You know those cracker barrel coupons you get in your redneck town? No ones paying to deliver to 100 farmers in Arkansas or in the Appalachians.

I think I made my point. Us liberals need to start calling out you big government conservatives.

And it should be obvious I'm not really against supplying internet all over America. It's just you hypocritees and you don't even realize you are asking the federal government to give you something your own party says you should be paying for. You all say this is not governments role.

When it's something your constituents want all sudden it's constitutional to use the federal government to do things the free market won't do.


At least now I know you all are too stupid to realize what hypocrites y'all are

 

[sealybobo]

I know, forgive me for using this source but it will occupy the liberal mind...
Why Rural America Voted for Trump

The New York Times
By ROBERT LEONARD 12 hrs ago

Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.

They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.

They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.

Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.

For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.

“The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.

“We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”

He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”

...

While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.

Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.

Why Rural America Voted for Trump

Not sure what I like about this thread the most. Your post or how fast and numerous the lefties jumped in here to prove your point.

What was his point that rural people are hypocrites who won't pay for their own mail or internet?

It's not profitable for a company to run internet out to your farm so you want government to tax us and pay for it.

If you pieces of shit voted democratic I'd want you to have it but now I think you should pay to have the work done yourself.

It's about $10k to hook your farm up with internet. How dare you rural takers come crawling for handouts you want. Pay yourself

Up here in the northern plains we have Great high-speed Internet… Paid for by oil/coal companies.

Well here in rural Michigan trump country the Hicks want big government to tax us all so they can get it. Companies aren't in a hurry to do it because hick farms are too few and far in between so it's not profitable for them to lay the tracks but you can be sure after government lays it for them corporations will be more than happy to sell the Hicks service for $100 a month. And they'll go on the internet and tell everyone how government is too big.

Stupid cons

Hold on here. You're in rural Michigan with internet access because you posted this and you have decided everyone there is primarily motivated by paying more taxes for the internet that you are already on.

I didn't say any of that. You're not going to control the conversation or spin this. I made my point. If that's what you got out of it you're an idiot

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Not sure what I like about this thread the most. Your post or how fast and numerous the lefties jumped in here to prove your point.

What was his point that rural people are hypocrites who won't pay for their own mail or internet?

It's not profitable for a company to run internet out to your farm so you want government to tax us and pay for it.

If you pieces of shit voted democratic I'd want you to have it but now I think you should pay to have the work done yourself.

It's about $10k to hook your farm up with internet. How dare you rural takers come crawling for handouts you want. Pay yourself

Up here in the northern plains we have Great high-speed Internet… Paid for by oil/coal companies.

Well here in rural Michigan trump country the Hicks want big government to tax us all so they can get it. Companies aren't in a hurry to do it because hick farms are too few and far in between so it's not profitable for them to lay the tracks but you can be sure after government lays it for them corporations will be more than happy to sell the Hicks service for $100 a month. And they'll go on the internet and tell everyone how government is too big.

Stupid cons

Hold on here. You're in rural Michigan with internet access because you posted this and you have decided everyone there is primarily motivated by paying more taxes for the internet that you are already on.

I didn't say any of that. You're not going to control the conversation or spin this. I made my point. If that's what you got out of it you're an idiot

You said "here in rural Michigan" like you were there. And then you claimed everyone up where you apparently are not was all for taxes and big government for internet access. If you are there you obviously have internet access. If you aren't then you are talking out of your ass about what people actually want.

It helps to make a point that is truthful. That would save you a lot of time trying to make yourself less retarded. But you are a left winger so I don't expect you to understand that.