Why Should Republicans Save obama's Butt?

[oreo]

Remember Joe Biden's comment--this is "one f---ing big deal"--well it's turned into this is one "big f---ing DISASTER.

 

[Sallow]

Oh for crying out loud.

Free people shouldn't be in charge of their own lives? You're either a true authoritarian Statist or a complete moron. Both are generally regarded as the same thing.

Free people and Free market are different.

But..

Okay.

So you are ready to have a military free of government involvement?

Make it free market?

Or better yet..completely voluntary and unfunded by taxes?

Why don't we take away their guns too. They won't be needing those and won't be able to afford them.

BTW, what in the Hell do you think the federal government's primary responsibility is?

It isn't providing health insurance.

Read the mission statement:

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Defense comes, what? Third?

And it's DEFENSE.

 

[ron4342]

The ACA is a disaster. In every imaginable way, it is a disaster.

In 2010, Republicans gave democrats the worst butt-kicking in decades over the ACA, so in the run-up to the 2012 General Election, obama just simply lied about it.

He went around the Country lying to people how, "If you like your Insurance, you can keep it. Period."

Those who don't think he lied can just depart the thread now. He did. Everybody knows it.

So now, millions of people are getting cancellation notices and -- Now what?

The website isn't working, for many of those people, the costs are doubling -- Which many can't afford to pay -- And there's nowhere for them to go.

People are pissed. Beyond pissed. Even his own party is turning against him.

And now Fred Upton and John Boehner are thinking about a bill that will force Insurance Companies to extend their coverage past the cancellation date (which they can't do anyway)......

Why?

Where's the democrats plans? Where's obama's plan? He and the democrats got us into this mess, why should we jump in and paint a target on ourselves by trying to bail them out?

You know what will happen...... The House will send a bill to the Senate and the Senate will COMPLETELY re-word and re-work it and send it back.

And then if the House refuses to approve it, the Senate will start in with the baby-killer bullshit. As usual.

Remember Harry Reid -- ?

Listen. Watch. Understand...

Harry Reid: 'Why Would We Want To' Help One Kid With Cancer? - YouTube

This is something you dumb-dumbs will never understand: THIS IS NOT ABOUT SAVING OR NOT SAVING OBAMA <period> This is about what is best for America and Americans! Your hate is so extreme you would turn this country into a wasteland and bring hardship and death on American citizens if you thought it would hurt Obama. Here is something else you don't understand: IF A PRESIDENT FAILS, THE COUNTRY FAILS. So keep working to make Obama fail (and by extension, for America to fail) Haven't you shitheads learned anything from the bush presidency?

F that--you and your Messiah crammed this down everyone's throat in 2009. Not one single Republican voted for it--they were even blocked from committee meetings.

You ignored all warnings of impending disaster. You watched 100's of thousands of Tea Party members march on the Washington Mall to tell you about this impending disaster-and you made fun of them while doing so. You ignored every single warning--and now you want us to fix your shit.

HELL NO

Your ignorance is staggering.

That said, some context: Of the 788 amendments filed, 67 came from Democrats and 721 from Republicans. (That disparity drew jeers that Republicans were trying to slow things down. Another explanation may be that they offered so many so they could later claim—as they are now, in fact, claiming—that most of their suggestions went unheeded.) Only 197 amendments were passed in the end—36 from Democrats and 161 from Republicans. And of those 161 GOP amendments, Senate Republicans classify 29 as substantive and 132 as technical.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/prescriptions/2009/07/this

SO MUCH FOR YOUR STUPID ARGUMENT THAT REPUBLICANS WERE SHUT OUT OF THE WRITING OF THE ACA.

 

[Sallow]

Is there anything else Obama can screw up?

The stockmarket?
Our 401ks?
The housing market?
Immigration?
Education?
Energy Independence?
Iranian nukes?

He screw anyone of those things up?

Market at record highs.
401Ks at record highs.
Housing market strong.
Record number of illegal aliens deported.
Education scores in North East just went up.
First time since 1993 domestic Oil production is higher than foreign imports.
Iran is at the table talking about their nuclear program.

Anything else?

 

[kwc57]

Free people and Free market are different.

But..

Okay.

So you are ready to have a military free of government involvement?

Make it free market?

Or better yet..completely voluntary and unfunded by taxes?

Why don't we take away their guns too. They won't be needing those and won't be able to afford them.

BTW, what in the Hell do you think the federal government's primary responsibility is?

It isn't providing health insurance.

Read the mission statement:

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Defense comes, what? Third?

And it's DEFENSE.

Where was healthcare listed?

 

[RKMBrown]

Free people and Free market are different.

But..

Okay.

So you are ready to have a military free of government involvement?

Make it free market?

Or better yet..completely voluntary and unfunded by taxes?

Yeah that's right Shallow you can't have free market health care without abandoning national defense.

Seems you folks don't like the Pepsi challenge.

Free Market for this, not for that?

We've never really had a free market here anyway. It's always been one gamed by the rich, for the rich.

A totally free market would let a disgruntled worker walk into his boss' office and blow his brains out.

You are trying to draw up a straw-man that says having a free market means that we have to accept murder and other crimes and also that if we don't have free markets somehow that will curb murder and other crimes. In a nutshell, NUTZ.

You are also trying to draw up a straw-man that says we can't have a free market because the evil rich will be allowed to create monopolies and rape us. As if that does not happen in government controlled markets.

What we need to do is have a free market and use our government employees to regulate it such that the so called evil rich are not given monopolies.

 

[RKMBrown]

Why don't we take away their guns too. They won't be needing those and won't be able to afford them.

BTW, what in the Hell do you think the federal government's primary responsibility is?

It isn't providing health insurance.

Read the mission statement:

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Defense comes, what? Third?

And it's DEFENSE.

Where was healthcare listed?

Section 8.