frigidweirdo
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I don't understand how giving the government that much control over your life is the "moral and right" thing to do.
What kind of person puts that kind of faith in government?
Here's the difference.
If I have a single payer system, I don't need to go out and find health insurance. I don't need to worry that the insurance company will decide I don't have the right type of cancer to be insured, I don't have to worry if I was born with a illness that I'll never be able to afford to treat what I was born with.
Essentially who would want to put their trust in insurance companies?
If I have a US system, I have to go out and find health insurance. Do i go for the one I can afford which won't cover most things? Will I pay more than I can realistically afford? What if I lose my job? Suddenly I'm not covered, which means I have to be more of a slave to my job that would otherwise be so.
You can choose to put your faith in people who have been elected to serve, or you can put your faith in insurance companies who are somewhere down the bottom of the pile with lawyers in the trustworthy stakes.
I think we'll end up with single payer. I know you and I aren't going to like it once we get it. The single payer utopia you have in your imagination is not what you and I are going to get. I wish it weren't so.
I think you'll agree with me in about 10 years. Hope we're both still alive to compare notes.
Single payer utopia? I'm very aware of what single payer means, thank you. I've seen it good and I've seen it bad. But at the end of the day, whether good or bad, you're going to get treated. Now, the issue is how do you make sure it stays good? In the UK the problem is that the Tories keep saying it's too expensive. Yeah, it's much cheaper than the US system, and they're complaining it's too expensive. The reality is they want a US system and they know they have to make the NHS non-viable in order to impose a US style system. So, the NHS goes up under Labour and down under the Tories.
In France and places like that they have health insurance run by not for profit companies. The state pays for most of the costs, 70% in the case of France.
I won't agree with you. I've lived under both systems and I know which I prefer.