Zone1 Why was the Resurrection of Jesus Christ Necessary?

[Cougarbear]

In many of the Christian churches of the day, it is believed that God the Father does not have a body but is only a spirit being. If this were true, then why was it necessary that Jesus Christ rise from the dead and take on and immortal body of flesh and bones? Why is it necessary that all mankind will be resurrected to have an immortal body throughout all eternity?

Luke 24:36-43
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

Revelation 1:18
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

1 Corinthians 15:53-54
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Why is resurrection so important if God the Father does not have an immortal body as well? Why would Jesus need a resurrected body if perfection is found in God the Father who is a spirit? Why would we all need to resurrect to have an immortal body of flesh and bones? Maybe God the Father himself has an immortal body of flesh and bones as well. We all have a spirit and can say that we are a spirit. But we also have a body. I believe this is the case also with God the Father. After Jesus was resurrected and ascended to heaven to sit on the right hand side of the Father, Paul tells us the following:

Hebrews 1:1-3
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

If Jesus, as an immortal resurrected being with flesh and bones, is the express image of the person of the Father, then wouldn't this imply that the Father too has an immortal body of flesh and bones just as Jesus has? Resurrection seems to be a part of the progression of all to be more perfect like our Lord and Savior and our Father in Heaven. If God the Father does not have an immortal body of flesh and bones, why then was it necessary for the Christ to resurrect and for all mankind to resurrect?

It's hard to get people to want to learn these days.

 

[0311]

In many of the Christian churches of the day, it is believed that God the Father does not have a body but is only a spirit being. If this were true, then why was it necessary that Jesus Christ rise from the dead and take on and immortal body of flesh and bones? Why is it necessary that all mankind will be resurrected to have an immortal body throughout all eternity?

Luke 24:36-43
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

Revelation 1:18
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

1 Corinthians 15:53-54
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Why is resurrection so important if God the Father does not have an immortal body as well? Why would Jesus need a resurrected body if perfection is found in God the Father who is a spirit? Why would we all need to resurrect to have an immortal body of flesh and bones? Maybe God the Father himself has an immortal body of flesh and bones as well. We all have a spirit and can say that we are a spirit. But we also have a body. I believe this is the case also with God the Father. After Jesus was resurrected and ascended to heaven to sit on the right hand side of the Father, Paul tells us the following:

Hebrews 1:1-3
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

If Jesus, as an immortal resurrected being with flesh and bones, is the express image of the person of the Father, then wouldn't this imply that the Father too has an immortal body of flesh and bones just as Jesus has? Resurrection seems to be a part of the progression of all to be more perfect like our Lord and Savior and our Father in Heaven. If God the Father does not have an immortal body of flesh and bones, why then was it necessary for the Christ to resurrect and for all mankind to resurrect?

One more time for religious impaired. I DO NOT GIVE FUCK THROUGH A ROLLING FUCKING DONUT IF YOU DISAGREE. YOUR SKY MAN DOES NOT FUCKING EXIST AND HIS BASTARD SON IS FUCKING LIE. TAKE YOUR HOLY MYTH BOOK AND SHOVE IT!!!

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The mere fact that anyone would crucify a person claiming to be the son of god, who happens to be able to walk on water, cure the blind, heal the sick, make water from wine, etc, is also a hard sell

They accused Him of being of the devil. Basically WITCHCRAFT and blasphemy. Many still say that is how He did miracles. His followers recognize His Father

 

[Carl in Michigan]

One more time for religious impaired. I DO NOT GIVE FUCK THROUGH A ROLLING FUCKING DONUT IF YOU DISAGREE. YOUR SKY MAN DOES NOT FUCKING EXIST AND HIS BASTARD SON IS FUCKING LIE. TAKE YOUR HOLY MYTH BOOK AND SHOVE IT!!!

Why are you posting here?
I don't waste my time debating myths.
Yet atheists always haunt this forum

 

[Carl in Michigan]

So he was alive for 40 days, but he hid the entire time

He was with the apostles, instructing them

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Quit gaslighting me. The bible is a black hole as far as Jesus is concerned after he died. No more stories about healing the sick, no more pearls of wisdom or moral lessons for mankind. NOTHING!

After Jesus death and resurrection, Peters SHADOW healed those with faith.

As a result, people brought the sick into the streets and laid them on beds and mats so that at least Peter’s shadow might fall on some of them as he passed by. 16 Crowds gathered also from the towns around Jerusalem, bringing their sick and those tormented by impure spirits, and all of them were healed.

 

[Meriweather]

So he was alive for 40 days, but he hid the entire time? Him coming back to life would be the biggest event on Earth if he showed his face. Those 40 days would be WILD. People would stop working and just follow him. It would literally be a million man march everywhere he went. It would be the most written about thing from that time period and very well documented.

Good questions. They might be best answered by asking why Jesus performed miracles before his death. What kinds of miracles did he perform then?

You say millions would have followed him wherever he went after the resurrection. Instead, he only appeared to about five hundred people who had been followers during his lifetime. Why the limit to about five hundred of those who already were followers? Why would millions who hadn't followed him suddenly begin following? What would be their purpose, what are you supposing they would be seeking?

 

[BreezeWood]

there was never a resurrection ....

“Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.” When he had said this, he breathed his last.

- jesus new his passing to be permanent.

 

[onefour1]

John 5:19
19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

Did Jesus see the Father resurrect? Did Jesus see the Father take on an immortal body of flesh and bones? Did the Father show Jesus that he himself took on a body of flesh and bones and that Jesus should do the same? Again, if the Father is only a spirit, why was it important that Jesus himself resurrect and take on an immortal body of flesh and bones for all eternity? Could it be that the Father himself has an immortal body of flesh and bones and that Jesus is the express image of the person of the Father?

 

[onefour1]

there was never a resurrection ....

Not according to Jesus' apostles and the written word of the Bible.

“Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.” When he had said this, he breathed his last.

- jesus new his passing to be permanent.

Yes, at the time of the crucifixion Jesus' spirit separated from his body. However, on the third day, it is testified to in scripture that he resurrected and was seen by many. It has also been taught that Jesus was to never die again and is immortal and that all mankind will also eventually resurrect and become immortal and live forever with bodies of flesh and bones.

 

[luiza]

In many of the Christian churches of the day, it is believed that God the Father does not have a body but is only a spirit being. If this were true, then why was it necessary that Jesus Christ rise from the dead and take on and immortal body of flesh and bones? Why is it necessary that all mankind will be resurrected to have an immortal body throughout all eternity?

Luke 24:36-43
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

Revelation 1:18
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

1 Corinthians 15:53-54
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Why is resurrection so important if God the Father does not have an immortal body as well? Why would Jesus need a resurrected body if perfection is found in God the Father who is a spirit? Why would we all need to resurrect to have an immortal body of flesh and bones? Maybe God the Father himself has an immortal body of flesh and bones as well. We all have a spirit and can say that we are a spirit. But we also have a body. I believe this is the case also with God the Father. After Jesus was resurrected and ascended to heaven to sit on the right hand side of the Father, Paul tells us the following:

Hebrews 1:1-3
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

If Jesus, as an immortal resurrected being with flesh and bones, is the express image of the person of the Father, then wouldn't this imply that the Father too has an immortal body of flesh and bones just as Jesus has? Resurrection seems to be a part of the progression of all to be more perfect like our Lord and Savior and our Father in Heaven. If God the Father does not have an immortal body of flesh and bones, why then was it necessary for the Christ to resurrect and for all mankind to resurrect?

Why do you take such an obvious piece of Fake News so seriously ?

The unbalanced Cultists ---- brother James and big fans Peter and Paul , needed an unusual talking point to sell an unusual story .
The Romans needed to be impressed .
So, Bingo
A flying , inter dimensional cartoon character played by Jesus the Essene Monk

Sensational in those times but rather corny now .

 

[Godboy]

Good questions. They might be best answered by asking why Jesus performed miracles before his death. What kinds of miracles did he perform then?

You say millions would have followed him wherever he went after the resurrection. Instead, he only appeared to about five hundred people who had been followers during his lifetime. Why the limit to about five hundred of those who already were followers? Why would millions who hadn't followed him suddenly begin following? What would be their purpose, what are you supposing they would be seeking?

You dont find it odd that a guy with magical powers only managed to attract 500 people? Jim Jones did FAR better than Jesus without any powers, and he was also happened to be a psycho cult mass murderer, so not particularly charming. Youd think that Jesus would crush him when it comes to followers.

This is the problem that i have with the bible. Its completely unrealistic. EVERYONE would follow the guy who can walk on water. There would be ZERO doubt that he is the son of god. No one would crucify him. Everyone would fear the divine wrath of the god-man. Everyone would happily follow that guy, all the way to Heaven.

 

[Meriweather]

You dont find it odd that a guy with magical powers only managed to attract 500 people? Jim Jones did FAR better than Jesus without any powers, and he was also a psycho cult mass murderer. Youd think that Jesus would crush him when it comes to followers.

Keep in mind that I said after his resurrection Jesus appeared to five hundred of his followers, not that he appeared to all of his followers. For comparison purposes, how many followers does Jesus have today versus how many followers does Jim Jones have today. (After a crushing figure? There it is. )

This is the problem that i have with the bible. Its completely unrealistic. EVERYONE would follow the guy who can walk on water. There would be ZERO doubt that he is the son of god. No one would crucify him. Everyone would fear the divine wrath of the god-man. Everyone would happily follow that guy, all the way to Heaven.

Not many people were witnesses to Jesus walking across the water. It's not as if word went out far and wide for everyone to gather around the Sea of Galilee because Jesus was going to demonstrate he could walk on water. Remember how Satan tested Jesus while he was out in the desert after his baptism? He suggested Jesus throw himself off the pinnacle of the Temple and walk away unscathed. That certainly would have been another stunt to gain followers. Jesus' miracles were not done in front of crowds. Often he chose only a few to be in the room with him, and often he told the people not to reveal the miracle they had witnessed.

So...What did Jesus want? What say you?