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1. A chicken in every pot, a new Chevrolet in every garage......


It is difficult to fight materialism....in fact, it is a mistake to fight it in the absolute, meaning if the alternative is starvation and homelessness.

That was the reason for so much of Franklin Roosevelt's success.


And once the desire for material satisfaction is given societal blessing....well, the line between sustaining life and simple greed is blurred.

Government promises you the chicken, and the Chevy.

Few ask where government gets the money to fulfill those promises, but your part of the deal is your vote, and what bit of liberty they chip away from your birthright.



But, like it or not, if you agree to the deal....you are a Leftist.
"Dialectical materialism... is a philosophy of science and nature, based on the writings of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels,..." Dialectical materialism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia




2. Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.
Dennis Prager.


And, if the only reality is materialism, there is no such thing as the spiritual, or morality, or responsibility.


a. Even in the 19th century, as religious conviction waned, the warnings were there. Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’
Concentration camps, gulags, famine as a government policy, show trials, torture....everything.

Hence, the reason for the ascendancy of Leftism: free chicken, Chevrolets, and the ability to do whatever feels good.



3. All of this was predicted....warned of....almost two centuries ago, by Alexis de Tocqueville. Writing “Democracy in America” in the 1830’s, he described Liberalism as “an immense, tutelary power, which takes sole charge of assuring their enjoyment and of watching over their fate.” As he predicted, this power is “absolute, attentive to detail, regular, provident, and gentle,” and it “works willingly for their happiness, but it wishes to be the only agent and the sole arbiter of that happiness. It provides for their security, foresees and supplies their needs, guides them in their principal affairs, directs their industry, regulates their testaments, divides their inheritances.”

It is entirely proper to ask, as he asked, whether it can “relieve them entirely of the trouble of thinking and of the effort associated with living.”




4. We Americans have stumbled into the great sea change, from a nation based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government, to one under the thumb of despotism. Think not? Still believe in the Constitution and on checks and balances?

Recently, the 'President' spit on those checks and balances:
" Obama Dares GOP: Go Ahead, ‘Have a Vote on Whether What I’m Doing Is Legal…I Will Veto’

“So in the short term,if Mr. McConnell, the leader of the Senate, and the Speaker of the House, John Boehner,want to have a vote on whether what I’m doing is legal or not, they can have that vote. I will veto that vote, because I’m absolutely confident that what we’re doing is the right thing to do.”
Obama Dares GOP Go Ahead Have a Vote on Whether What I m Doing Is Legal I Will Veto MRCTV
 
Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Another assertion without evidentialy support and causal connection. So the desire for the better life is only a communist idea. Wow! Who knew that all the power and prosperity preachers a commies.
 
Hoover emitted the chicken in every pot standard, through his failed policies on the depression presidency...the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR, and they kept electing him because at least he tried, where the GOP wanted to wait for a prevailing wind to set sail....
 
Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Another assertion without evidentialy support and causal connection. So the desire for the better life is only a communist idea. Wow! Who knew that all the power and prosperity preachers a commies.
Capitalist don't want you to buy anything...or get a loan.....
 
1. A chicken in every pot, a new Chevrolet in every garage......


It is difficult to fight materialism....in fact, it is a mistake to fight it in the absolute, meaning if the alternative is starvation and homelessness.

That was the reason for so much of Franklin Roosevelt's success.


And once the desire for material satisfaction is given societal blessing....well, the line between sustaining life and simple greed is blurred.

Government promises you the chicken, and the Chevy.

Few ask where government gets the money to fulfill those promises, but your part of the deal is your vote, and what bit of liberty they chip away from your birthright.



But, like it or not, if you agree to the deal....you are a Leftist.
"Dialectical materialism... is a philosophy of science and nature, based on the writings of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels,..." Dialectical materialism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia





Hence, the reason for the ascendancy of Leftism: free chicken, Chevrolets, and the ability to do whatever feels good.
All that script to explain why people like to eat and like cars.
 
Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Another assertion without evidentialy support and causal connection. So the desire for the better life is only a communist idea. Wow! Who knew that all the power and prosperity preachers a commies.



But, like it or not, if you agree to the deal....you are a Leftist.
"Dialectical materialism... is a philosophy of science and nature, based on the writings ofKarl Marx and Friedrich Engels,..." Dialectical materialism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia




2. Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.
Dennis Prager.


And, if the only reality is materialism, there is no such thing as the spiritual, or morality, or responsibility.
 
Hoover emitted the chicken in every pot standard, through his failed policies on the depression presidency...the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered FDR, and they kept electing him because at least he tried, where the GOP wanted to wait for a prevailing wind to set sail....

People think of Hoover as a typical, non-interventionist Republican. He was not.

In fact, he was almost booted from the Harding Administration for being such an interventionist when he was the 3rd Secretary of Commerce.

It was Hoover's interventionist theories like Smoot Hawley that cause the Depression to worsen.

Harding went through a Depression, too. But, you're a dimocrap, too stupid to know that.

As to FDR? He NEVER did get us out of the Deprression.

Never. In fact, in early 1941, they year the War Started for us, unemployment was at 14.1%

After almost 8 years of fighting the Depression, FDR had lost.

Oh? You're stupid and want to know what got us out of the Depression?

That's easy, stupid. World War II got us out of the Depression. Stupid.

Here's a thought for your tiny little brain.......

Every minute of every hour of every day that FDR was President, this Country was in abject misery. Either the Depression that kicked his ass or World War II.

FDR was a TERRIBLE President. But not the worst ever. The worst ever is the scum-sucking Lying Cocksucker we currently have infesting the White House -- Because of scumbags like you
 
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You seem to be ignorant of the fact that those Americans living and voting back then seemed to think FDR was the bees knees, so your opinion does not matter on his ability to get elected and to end a great depression, since according to your types, recessions heal themselves...But at what human costs?
 
The fundamental world-view of the Left is that (1) all people are, by definition, equal, therefore (2) if some people have "more" than others, it must be either luck or some evil plot that has made them "rich," and (3) the solution to this problem is to take the excess from The Rich and distribute it to The Poor.

Is this not the underlying thought behind the "inequality" craze?

Is this not a Marxist view of the world?

The rational view of inequality is that inequality is the normal state of nature. Some people are more intelligent, harder working, more talented, and so on, and as a result they will be able to earn more than those who are less intelligent, etc. Conversely, some people are stupid, lazy, and make terrible decisions, resulting in a dearth of income, a lack of wealth, and general wretchedness. There is nothing "unfair" about it at all.

And while it is nice to think that in a wealthy society, some provisions will made to ensure that no one is homeless, hungry, and living with untreated, treatable diseases, it is not "justice" that brings about these provisions, but rather kindness and consideration.

We English speakers used to have an expression that captured a valid concept of "social justice." That expression was, "the deserving poor." It described widows, orphans, and those afflicted with various conditions outside their own control that kept them "at the bottom of the barrel." NO ONE minds contributing to the welfare of The Deserving Poor.

But government is incapable of distinguishing between the Deserving Poor and those who are wretched due to their own laziness, fault, and making horrible life choices (bastardy, substance abuse, dropping out of school), so Government programs simply make benefits available to, basically, anyone who wants them, thus causing resentment among those who have to pay for it.

In recent years, the Democrats/Progressives have created the preposterous fiction that "Government" can continually print new money to fund these programs and either (a) it doesn't cost anything, or (b) SOMEONE ELSE will pay for them (without identifying exactly who that is).

It is a fcuked up mess.
 
Hoover emitted the chicken in every pot standard, through his failed policies on the depression presidency...the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR, and they kept electing him because at least he tried, where the GOP wanted to wait for a prevailing wind to set sail....



Astounding how consistently wrong you are!

Batting a negative .1000!

"....the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR,...."

1. He did no such thing......in fact, he extended the recession into a depression.

2. The basis of FDR's 1932 campaign to win the presidency from Herbert Hoover was his emphatic promise to the suffering American people, that he would balance the budget. Of course, he also promised that he would use the government to create jobs, and that they "had a right to a comfortable living."
FDR s Commonwealth Club Address

3.The part about balancing the budget had a certain resonance as President Harding had veered sharply away from federal spending and solved as big a recession in about one year. Certainly Franklin Roosevelt knew this, as he hammered away at Hoover's spending. October 19, 1932, he nailed Hoover, observing that in recent years federal expenses had increased by $1 billion "and that I may add, is the most reckless and extravagant past that I have been able to discover in the statistical record of any peacetime Government anywhere, any time." Franklin D. Roosevelt Campaign Address on the Federal Budget at Pittsburgh Pennsylvania

a. And this: "... carrying out the plain precept of our Party, which is to reduce the cost of current Federal Government operations by 25 percent." Ibid.


b. Roosevelt expanded the federal government and ran up deficits much greater than those of Hoover.



4. Franklin Roosevelt's Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau confessed that the "New Deal" was a failure in sworn testimony before Congress on May 9, 1939.

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work."

And FDR's Treasury Secretary also told Congress:

"I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ... And an enormous debt to boot!" (See: Human EventsGet Over It New Deal Didn t Do the Job Human Events\
and
The Heritage Foundation We re Spending More Than Ever and It Doesn t Work .)



Read more:Articles The Madness of Keynesian Economics
 
Please show proof of the fundamental foundation of the left as income equality...Since both sides do it......derps and dweebs, lead around by the nose rings and chains of their media masters...
 
Hoover emitted the chicken in every pot standard, through his failed policies on the depression presidency...the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR, and they kept electing him because at least he tried, where the GOP wanted to wait for a prevailing wind to set sail....



Astounding how consistently wrong you are!

Batting a negative .1000!

"....the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR,...."

1. He did no such thing......in fact, he extended the recession into a depression.

2. The basis of FDR's 1932 campaign to win the presidency from Herbert Hoover was his emphatic promise to the suffering American people, that he would balance the budget. Of course, he also promised that he would use the government to create jobs, and that they "had a right to a comfortable living."
FDR s Commonwealth Club Address

3.The part about balancing the budget had a certain resonance as President Harding had veered sharply away from federal spending and solved as big a recession in about one year. Certainly Franklin Roosevelt knew this, as he hammered away at Hoover's spending. October 19, 1932, he nailed Hoover, observing that in recent years federal expenses had increased by $1 billion "and that I may add, is the most reckless and extravagant past that I have been able to discover in the statistical record of any peacetime Government anywhere, any time." Franklin D. Roosevelt Campaign Address on the Federal Budget at Pittsburgh Pennsylvania

a. And this: "... carrying out the plain precept of our Party, which is to reduce the cost of current Federal Government operations by 25 percent." Ibid.


b. Roosevelt expanded the federal government and ran up deficits much greater than those of Hoover.



4. Franklin Roosevelt's Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau confessed that the "New Deal" was a failure in sworn testimony before Congress on May 9, 1939.

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work."

And FDR's Treasury Secretary also told Congress:

"I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ... And an enormous debt to boot!" (See: Human EventsGet Over It New Deal Didn t Do the Job Human Events\
and
The Heritage Foundation We re Spending More Than Ever and It Doesn t Work .)



Read more:Articles The Madness of Keynesian Economics



Gawd, you lie right through your teeth.

It was a full blown depression of epic proportions long before FDR won his first landslide, in 1932.

It's why they were called "Hoovervilles" already in 1930, ya dumbfuck.
 
Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Another assertion without evidentialy support and causal connection. So the desire for the better life is only a communist idea. Wow! Who knew that all the power and prosperity preachers a commies.
Capitalist don't want you to buy anything...or get a loan.....


For you, each day is the dawn of a new error.

This post of yours is jaw-droppingly stupid.

When you sober up you'll agree.
 
Hoover emitted the chicken in every pot standard, through his failed policies on the depression presidency...the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR, and they kept electing him because at least he tried, where the GOP wanted to wait for a prevailing wind to set sail....



Astounding how consistently wrong you are!

Batting a negative .1000!

"....the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR,...."

1. He did no such thing......in fact, he extended the recession into a depression.

2. The basis of FDR's 1932 campaign to win the presidency from Herbert Hoover was his emphatic promise to the suffering American people, that he would balance the budget. Of course, he also promised that he would use the government to create jobs, and that they "had a right to a comfortable living."
FDR s Commonwealth Club Address

3.The part about balancing the budget had a certain resonance as President Harding had veered sharply away from federal spending and solved as big a recession in about one year. Certainly Franklin Roosevelt knew this, as he hammered away at Hoover's spending. October 19, 1932, he nailed Hoover, observing that in recent years federal expenses had increased by $1 billion "and that I may add, is the most reckless and extravagant past that I have been able to discover in the statistical record of any peacetime Government anywhere, any time." Franklin D. Roosevelt Campaign Address on the Federal Budget at Pittsburgh Pennsylvania

a. And this: "... carrying out the plain precept of our Party, which is to reduce the cost of current Federal Government operations by 25 percent." Ibid.


b. Roosevelt expanded the federal government and ran up deficits much greater than those of Hoover.



4. Franklin Roosevelt's Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau confessed that the "New Deal" was a failure in sworn testimony before Congress on May 9, 1939.

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work."

And FDR's Treasury Secretary also told Congress:

"I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ... And an enormous debt to boot!" (See: Human EventsGet Over It New Deal Didn t Do the Job Human Events\
and
The Heritage Foundation We re Spending More Than Ever and It Doesn t Work .)



Read more:Articles The Madness of Keynesian Economics
I see, so his 4 re-elections reflected the disappointment of the US citizen, got anymore lies to tell?
 
Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Another assertion without evidentialy support and causal connection. So the desire for the better life is only a communist idea. Wow! Who knew that all the power and prosperity preachers a commies.
Capitalist don't want you to buy anything...or get a loan.....


For you, each day is the dawn of a new error.

This post of yours is jaw-droppingly stupid.

When you sober up you'll agree.
So you go into debt for Marxism, the great manufacturer of consumer goods and farm implements???
 
You seem to be ignorant of the fact that those Americans living and voting back then seemed to think FDR was the bees knees, so your opinion does not matter on his ability to get elected and to end a great depression, since according to your types, recessions heal themselves...But at what human costs?


.....why do the facts upset you so?
 
You seem to be ignorant of the fact that those Americans living and voting back then seemed to think FDR was the bees knees, so your opinion does not matter on his ability to get elected and to end a great depression, since according to your types, recessions heal themselves...But at what human costs?


.....why do the facts upset you so?
Yours are not facts but opinions, history has revealed the facts...
 

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