Why We're Where We Are

[PoliticalChic]

Hoover emitted the chicken in every pot standard, through his failed policies on the depression presidency...the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR, and they kept electing him because at least he tried, where the GOP wanted to wait for a prevailing wind to set sail....

Astounding how consistently wrong you are!

Batting a negative .1000!

"....the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR,...."

1. He did no such thing......in fact, he extended the recession into a depression.

2. The basis of FDR's 1932 campaign to win the presidency from Herbert Hoover was his emphatic promise to the suffering American people, that he would balance the budget. Of course, he also promised that he would use the government to create jobs, and that they "had a right to a comfortable living."
FDR s Commonwealth Club Address

3.The part about balancing the budget had a certain resonance as President Harding had veered sharply away from federal spending and solved as big a recession in about one year. Certainly Franklin Roosevelt knew this, as he hammered away at Hoover's spending. October 19, 1932, he nailed Hoover, observing that in recent years federal expenses had increased by $1 billion "and that I may add, is the most reckless and extravagant past that I have been able to discover in the statistical record of any peacetime Government anywhere, any time." Franklin D. Roosevelt Campaign Address on the Federal Budget at Pittsburgh Pennsylvania

a. And this: "... carrying out the plain precept of our Party, which is to reduce the cost of current Federal Government operations by 25 percent." Ibid.


b. Roosevelt expanded the federal government and ran up deficits much greater than those of Hoover.



4. Franklin Roosevelt's Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau confessed that the "New Deal" was a failure in sworn testimony before Congress on May 9, 1939.

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work."

And FDR's Treasury Secretary also told Congress:

"I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ... And an enormous debt to boot!" (See: Human EventsGet Over It New Deal Didn t Do the Job Human Events\
and
The Heritage Foundation We re Spending More Than Ever and It Doesn t Work .)



Read more:Articles The Madness of Keynesian Economics

Gawd, you lie right through your teeth.

It was a full blown depression of epic proportions long before FDR won his first landslide, in 1932.

It's why they were called "Hoovervilles" already in 1930, ya dumbfuck.

Now watch how effortlessly I prove what an ass you are:
Here is an interesting visual: imagine a triple line of the unemployed, three across, consisting of those unemployed under Hoover, in 1931. The line would have gonefrom Los Angeles, across the country, to the border of Maine.

What effect did Roosevelt have on the line?

Well, eight years later, in 1939, the length of the line would have gone further, from the Maine border, south to Boston, then on to New York City, then to Philadelphia, on to Washington, D.C.- and finally, into Virginia.
Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal"


Think Folsom was wrong?

Check it out at the US Bureau of the Census, 'Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970, I-126 and
Unemployment Statistics during the Great Depression



I would suggest that you only post about things you have knowledge....

but we both know that that would end your posting career.

 

[Moonglow]

Hoover emitted the chicken in every pot standard, through his failed policies on the depression presidency...the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR, and they kept electing him because at least he tried, where the GOP wanted to wait for a prevailing wind to set sail....

Astounding how consistently wrong you are!

Batting a negative .1000!

"....the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR,...."

1. He did no such thing......in fact, he extended the recession into a depression.

2. The basis of FDR's 1932 campaign to win the presidency from Herbert Hoover was his emphatic promise to the suffering American people, that he would balance the budget. Of course, he also promised that he would use the government to create jobs, and that they "had a right to a comfortable living."
FDR s Commonwealth Club Address

3.The part about balancing the budget had a certain resonance as President Harding had veered sharply away from federal spending and solved as big a recession in about one year. Certainly Franklin Roosevelt knew this, as he hammered away at Hoover's spending. October 19, 1932, he nailed Hoover, observing that in recent years federal expenses had increased by $1 billion "and that I may add, is the most reckless and extravagant past that I have been able to discover in the statistical record of any peacetime Government anywhere, any time." Franklin D. Roosevelt Campaign Address on the Federal Budget at Pittsburgh Pennsylvania

a. And this: "... carrying out the plain precept of our Party, which is to reduce the cost of current Federal Government operations by 25 percent." Ibid.


b. Roosevelt expanded the federal government and ran up deficits much greater than those of Hoover.



4. Franklin Roosevelt's Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau confessed that the "New Deal" was a failure in sworn testimony before Congress on May 9, 1939.

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work."

And FDR's Treasury Secretary also told Congress:

"I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ... And an enormous debt to boot!" (See: Human EventsGet Over It New Deal Didn t Do the Job Human Events\
and
The Heritage Foundation We re Spending More Than Ever and It Doesn t Work .)



Read more:Articles The Madness of Keynesian Economics

Gawd, you lie right through your teeth.

It was a full blown depression of epic proportions long before FDR won his first landslide, in 1932.

It's why they were called "Hoovervilles" already in 1930, ya dumbfuck.

Now watch how effortlessly I prove what an ass you are:
Here is an interesting visual: imagine a triple line of the unemployed, three across, consisting of those unemployed under Hoover, in 1931. The line would have gonefrom Los Angeles, across the country, to the border of Maine.

What effect did Roosevelt have on the line?

Well, eight years later, in 1939, the length of the line would have gone further, from the Maine border, south to Boston, then on to New York City, then to Philadelphia, on to Washington, D.C.- and finally, into Virginia.
Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal"


Think Folsom was wrong?

Check it out at the US Bureau of the Census, 'Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970, I-126 and
Unemployment Statistics during the Great Depression



I would suggest that you only post about things you have knowledge....

but we both know that that would end your posting career.

A recession is not a great depression....the people spoke at the voting booth about how they thought FDR was doing at his job.......sorry the GOP is still butt hurt bad over it....

 

[Edgetho]

.....why do the facts upset you so?

Ever notice that 90% of the posts by dimocrap scum attack the poster, not the post.

That they demand 'proof' fro something they have no intention of reading.

And if they're forced to read it (while moving their lips, no doubt) they'll attack either the source or single out one tiny little factoid, elaborate on it, build a strawman of it and concentrate on that.

dimocraps have no intention of compromising or learning.

they are scum

 

[Moonglow]

.....why do the facts upset you so?

Ever notice that 90% of the posts by dimocrap scum attack the poster, not the post.

That they demand 'proof' fro something they have no intention of reading.

And if they're forced to read it (while moving their lips, no doubt) they'll attack either the source or single out one tiny little factoid, elaborate on it, build a strawman of it and concentrate on that.

dimocraps have no intention of compromising or learning.

they are scum

Your one to talk two face...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hoover emitted the chicken in every pot standard, through his failed policies on the depression presidency...the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR, and they kept electing him because at least he tried, where the GOP wanted to wait for a prevailing wind to set sail....

Astounding how consistently wrong you are!

Batting a negative .1000!

"....the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR,...."

1. He did no such thing......in fact, he extended the recession into a depression.

2. The basis of FDR's 1932 campaign to win the presidency from Herbert Hoover was his emphatic promise to the suffering American people, that he would balance the budget. Of course, he also promised that he would use the government to create jobs, and that they "had a right to a comfortable living."
FDR s Commonwealth Club Address

3.The part about balancing the budget had a certain resonance as President Harding had veered sharply away from federal spending and solved as big a recession in about one year. Certainly Franklin Roosevelt knew this, as he hammered away at Hoover's spending. October 19, 1932, he nailed Hoover, observing that in recent years federal expenses had increased by $1 billion "and that I may add, is the most reckless and extravagant past that I have been able to discover in the statistical record of any peacetime Government anywhere, any time." Franklin D. Roosevelt Campaign Address on the Federal Budget at Pittsburgh Pennsylvania

a. And this: "... carrying out the plain precept of our Party, which is to reduce the cost of current Federal Government operations by 25 percent." Ibid.


b. Roosevelt expanded the federal government and ran up deficits much greater than those of Hoover.



4. Franklin Roosevelt's Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau confessed that the "New Deal" was a failure in sworn testimony before Congress on May 9, 1939.

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work."

And FDR's Treasury Secretary also told Congress:

"I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ... And an enormous debt to boot!" (See: Human EventsGet Over It New Deal Didn t Do the Job Human Events\
and
The Heritage Foundation We re Spending More Than Ever and It Doesn t Work .)



Read more:Articles The Madness of Keynesian Economics

I see, so his 4 re-elections reflected the disappointment of the US citizen, got anymore lies to tell?

No, you moron.....this is what it reflected:
"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."
Rahm Emanuel

1. “We began this experiment in 1933 under the pressure of an internal economic crisis. We continue and extend it under the necessities of a war crisis....It is born in crisis, lives on crisis, and cannot survive the era of crisis. By the very law of its nature it must create for itself, if it is to continue, fresh crises from year to year. …And our future is all charted out upon the same turbulent road of permanent crisis.” John T. Flynn, "As We Go Marching," p. 256

 

[Moonglow]

Hoover emitted the chicken in every pot standard, through his failed policies on the depression presidency...the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR, and they kept electing him because at least he tried, where the GOP wanted to wait for a prevailing wind to set sail....

Astounding how consistently wrong you are!

Batting a negative .1000!

"....the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR,...."

1. He did no such thing......in fact, he extended the recession into a depression.

2. The basis of FDR's 1932 campaign to win the presidency from Herbert Hoover was his emphatic promise to the suffering American people, that he would balance the budget. Of course, he also promised that he would use the government to create jobs, and that they "had a right to a comfortable living."
FDR s Commonwealth Club Address

3.The part about balancing the budget had a certain resonance as President Harding had veered sharply away from federal spending and solved as big a recession in about one year. Certainly Franklin Roosevelt knew this, as he hammered away at Hoover's spending. October 19, 1932, he nailed Hoover, observing that in recent years federal expenses had increased by $1 billion "and that I may add, is the most reckless and extravagant past that I have been able to discover in the statistical record of any peacetime Government anywhere, any time." Franklin D. Roosevelt Campaign Address on the Federal Budget at Pittsburgh Pennsylvania

a. And this: "... carrying out the plain precept of our Party, which is to reduce the cost of current Federal Government operations by 25 percent." Ibid.


b. Roosevelt expanded the federal government and ran up deficits much greater than those of Hoover.



4. Franklin Roosevelt's Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau confessed that the "New Deal" was a failure in sworn testimony before Congress on May 9, 1939.

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work."

And FDR's Treasury Secretary also told Congress:

"I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ... And an enormous debt to boot!" (See: Human EventsGet Over It New Deal Didn t Do the Job Human Events\
and
The Heritage Foundation We re Spending More Than Ever and It Doesn t Work .)



Read more:Articles The Madness of Keynesian Economics

I see, so his 4 re-elections reflected the disappointment of the US citizen, got anymore lies to tell?

No, you moron.....this is what it reflected:
"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."
Rahm Emanuel

1. “We began this experiment in 1933 under the pressure of an internal economic crisis. We continue and extend it under the necessities of a war crisis....It is born in crisis, lives on crisis, and cannot survive the era of crisis. By the very law of its nature it must create for itself, if it is to continue, fresh crises from year to year. …And our future is all charted out upon the same turbulent road of permanent crisis.” John T. Flynn, "As We Go Marching," p. 256

Then what was Reagan's excuse for the crisis that he hailed?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Another assertion without evidentialy support and causal connection. So the desire for the better life is only a communist idea. Wow! Who knew that all the power and prosperity preachers a commies.

Capitalist don't want you to buy anything...or get a loan.....

For you, each day is the dawn of a new error.

This post of yours is jaw-droppingly stupid.

When you sober up you'll agree.

So you go into debt for Marxism, the great manufacturer of consumer goods and farm implements???

I have no doubt that the inspiration for this post is desperation, and the method was to throw the Scrabble tiles and post in the order they fell out.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Hoover emitted the chicken in every pot standard, through his failed policies on the depression presidency...the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered FDR, and they kept electing him because at least he tried, where the GOP wanted to wait for a prevailing wind to set sail....

People think of Hoover as a typical, non-interventionist Republican. He was not.

In fact, he was almost booted from the Harding Administration for being such an interventionist when he was the 3rd Secretary of Commerce.

It was Hoover's interventionist theories like Smoot Hawley that cause the Depression to worsen.

Harding went through a Depression, too. But, you're a dimocrap, too stupid to know that.

As to FDR? He NEVER did get us out of the Deprression.

Never. In fact, in early 1941, they year the War Started for us, unemployment was at 14.1%

After almost 8 years of fighting the Depression, FDR had lost.

Oh? You're stupid and want to know what got us out of the Depression?

That's easy, stupid. World War II got us out of the Depression. Stupid.

Here's a thought for your tiny little brain.......

Every minute of every hour of every day that FDR was President, this Country was in abject misery. Either the Depression that kicked his ass or World War II.

FDR was a TERRIBLE President. But not the worst ever. The worst ever is the scum-sucking Lying Cocksucker we currently have infesting the White House -- Because of scumbags like you

The massive government spending program of WWII is what got us out of the Depression?

lol, are you sure?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Hoover emitted the chicken in every pot standard, through his failed policies on the depression presidency...the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR, and they kept electing him because at least he tried, where the GOP wanted to wait for a prevailing wind to set sail....

Astounding how consistently wrong you are!

Batting a negative .1000!

"....the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR,...."

1. He did no such thing......in fact, he extended the recession into a depression.

2. The basis of FDR's 1932 campaign to win the presidency from Herbert Hoover was his emphatic promise to the suffering American people, that he would balance the budget. Of course, he also promised that he would use the government to create jobs, and that they "had a right to a comfortable living."
FDR s Commonwealth Club Address

3.The part about balancing the budget had a certain resonance as President Harding had veered sharply away from federal spending and solved as big a recession in about one year. Certainly Franklin Roosevelt knew this, as he hammered away at Hoover's spending. October 19, 1932, he nailed Hoover, observing that in recent years federal expenses had increased by $1 billion "and that I may add, is the most reckless and extravagant past that I have been able to discover in the statistical record of any peacetime Government anywhere, any time." Franklin D. Roosevelt Campaign Address on the Federal Budget at Pittsburgh Pennsylvania

a. And this: "... carrying out the plain precept of our Party, which is to reduce the cost of current Federal Government operations by 25 percent." Ibid.


b. Roosevelt expanded the federal government and ran up deficits much greater than those of Hoover.



4. Franklin Roosevelt's Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau confessed that the "New Deal" was a failure in sworn testimony before Congress on May 9, 1939.

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work."

And FDR's Treasury Secretary also told Congress:

"I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ... And an enormous debt to boot!" (See: Human EventsGet Over It New Deal Didn t Do the Job Human Events\
and
The Heritage Foundation We re Spending More Than Ever and It Doesn t Work .)



Read more:Articles The Madness of Keynesian Economics

Gawd, you lie right through your teeth.

It was a full blown depression of epic proportions long before FDR won his first landslide, in 1932.

It's why they were called "Hoovervilles" already in 1930, ya dumbfuck.

Now watch how effortlessly I prove what an ass you are:
Here is an interesting visual: imagine a triple line of the unemployed, three across, consisting of those unemployed under Hoover, in 1931. The line would have gonefrom Los Angeles, across the country, to the border of Maine.

What effect did Roosevelt have on the line?

Well, eight years later, in 1939, the length of the line would have gone further, from the Maine border, south to Boston, then on to New York City, then to Philadelphia, on to Washington, D.C.- and finally, into Virginia.
Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal"


Think Folsom was wrong?

Check it out at the US Bureau of the Census, 'Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970, I-126 and
Unemployment Statistics during the Great Depression



I would suggest that you only post about things you have knowledge....

but we both know that that would end your posting career.

Unemployment during the so-called Great Depression peaked in 1933, not long after FDR took office.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You seem to be ignorant of the fact that those Americans living and voting back then seemed to think FDR was the bees knees, so your opinion does not matter on his ability to get elected and to end a great depression, since according to your types, recessions heal themselves...But at what human costs?

.....why do the facts upset you so?

Yours are not facts but opinions, history has revealed the facts...

I reveal facts.

I always do.

 

[Edgetho]

The massive government spending program of WWII is what got us out of the Depression?

lol, are you sure?

No, you stupid pile of shit.

The fact that we bombed the most of the entire World's Industrial Centers into rubble got us out of the Depression.

You really are a stupid bitch.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hoover emitted the chicken in every pot standard, through his failed policies on the depression presidency...the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR, and they kept electing him because at least he tried, where the GOP wanted to wait for a prevailing wind to set sail....

Astounding how consistently wrong you are!

Batting a negative .1000!

"....the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR,...."

1. He did no such thing......in fact, he extended the recession into a depression.

2. The basis of FDR's 1932 campaign to win the presidency from Herbert Hoover was his emphatic promise to the suffering American people, that he would balance the budget. Of course, he also promised that he would use the government to create jobs, and that they "had a right to a comfortable living."
FDR s Commonwealth Club Address

3.The part about balancing the budget had a certain resonance as President Harding had veered sharply away from federal spending and solved as big a recession in about one year. Certainly Franklin Roosevelt knew this, as he hammered away at Hoover's spending. October 19, 1932, he nailed Hoover, observing that in recent years federal expenses had increased by $1 billion "and that I may add, is the most reckless and extravagant past that I have been able to discover in the statistical record of any peacetime Government anywhere, any time." Franklin D. Roosevelt Campaign Address on the Federal Budget at Pittsburgh Pennsylvania

a. And this: "... carrying out the plain precept of our Party, which is to reduce the cost of current Federal Government operations by 25 percent." Ibid.


b. Roosevelt expanded the federal government and ran up deficits much greater than those of Hoover.



4. Franklin Roosevelt's Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau confessed that the "New Deal" was a failure in sworn testimony before Congress on May 9, 1939.

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work."

And FDR's Treasury Secretary also told Congress:

"I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ... And an enormous debt to boot!" (See: Human EventsGet Over It New Deal Didn t Do the Job Human Events\
and
The Heritage Foundation We re Spending More Than Ever and It Doesn t Work .)



Read more:Articles The Madness of Keynesian Economics

I see, so his 4 re-elections reflected the disappointment of the US citizen, got anymore lies to tell?

No, you moron.....this is what it reflected:
"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."
Rahm Emanuel

1. “We began this experiment in 1933 under the pressure of an internal economic crisis. We continue and extend it under the necessities of a war crisis....It is born in crisis, lives on crisis, and cannot survive the era of crisis. By the very law of its nature it must create for itself, if it is to continue, fresh crises from year to year. …And our future is all charted out upon the same turbulent road of permanent crisis.” John T. Flynn, "As We Go Marching," p. 256

Then what was Reagan's excuse for the crisis that he hailed?

So you've given up trying to defend the indefensible.....and now choose to attack the greatest President of the last 100 years?

Let's leave Ronaldus Maximus for another thread.

 

[Edgetho]

Your one to talk two face...

Nothing two-face about me at all, scumbag.

I have ALWAYS said dimocraps are the scum of the earth. And you're near the top.

 

[Edgetho]

So you've given up trying to defend the indefensible.....and now choose to attack the greatest President of the last 100 years?

Let's leave Ronaldus Maximus for another thread.

Watched Ann Coulter school Bill O'Reilly (aka; Ted Baxter) last night on how Ronaldus Magnus never bothered with the Black Vote at all. Or the Hispanic Vote.

He went after the White Vote exclusively. Reagan got the smallest percentage of the Black Vote, I think, ever

The two biggest ass-kickings in electoral history followed.

Is there a lesson in there?

 

[Sonny Clark]

1. A chicken in every pot, a new Chevrolet in every garage......


It is difficult to fight materialism....in fact, it is a mistake to fight it in the absolute, meaning if the alternative is starvation and homelessness.

That was the reason for so much of Franklin Roosevelt's success.


And once the desire for material satisfaction is given societal blessing....well, the line between sustaining life and simple greed is blurred.

Government promises you the chicken, and the Chevy.

Few ask where government gets the money to fulfill those promises, but your part of the deal is your vote, and what bit of liberty they chip away from your birthright.



But, like it or not, if you agree to the deal....you are a Leftist.
"Dialectical materialism... is a philosophy of science and nature, based on the writings of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels,..." Dialectical materialism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia




2. Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.
Dennis Prager.


And, if the only reality is materialism, there is no such thing as the spiritual, or morality, or responsibility.


a. Even in the 19th century, as religious conviction waned, the warnings were there. Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’
Concentration camps, gulags, famine as a government policy, show trials, torture....everything.

Hence, the reason for the ascendancy of Leftism: free chicken, Chevrolets, and the ability to do whatever feels good.



3. All of this was predicted....warned of....almost two centuries ago, by Alexis de Tocqueville. Writing “Democracy in America” in the 1830’s, he described Liberalism as “an immense, tutelary power, which takes sole charge of assuring their enjoyment and of watching over their fate.” As he predicted, this power is “absolute, attentive to detail, regular, provident, and gentle,” and it “works willingly for their happiness, but it wishes to be the only agent and the sole arbiter of that happiness. It provides for their security, foresees and supplies their needs, guides them in their principal affairs, directs their industry, regulates their testaments, divides their inheritances.”

It is entirely proper to ask, as he asked, whether it can “relieve them entirely of the trouble of thinking and of the effort associated with living.”




4. We Americans have stumbled into the great sea change, from a nation based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government, to one under the thumb of despotism. Think not? Still believe in the Constitution and on checks and balances?

Recently, the 'President' spit on those checks and balances:
" Obama Dares GOP: Go Ahead, ‘Have a Vote on Whether What I’m Doing Is Legal…I Will Veto’

“So in the short term,if Mr. McConnell, the leader of the Senate, and the Speaker of the House, John Boehner,want to have a vote on whether what I’m doing is legal or not, they can have that vote. I will veto that vote, because I’m absolutely confident that what we’re doing is the right thing to do.”
Obama Dares GOP Go Ahead Have a Vote on Whether What I m Doing Is Legal I Will Veto MRCTV

Why Are We Where We Are?

Simple answer that says it all: Stupid voters enabled us to get to this point in American history.

Our "downfall" is the direct result of voters electing and re-electing professional politicians to run this once great nation. Our politicians do NOT just waltz into Washington and take a seat in government. And, after seeing and experiencing the obvious social and economic damage inflicted by those elected to office, voters continue to do the exact same thing election after election, then complain about everything from taxes, to foreign policy, to employment, to health care, to illegal immigration, to wars, to our astronomical and rising national debt, and to our loss of privacy.

The blame for the mess this country is in, falls squarely on the shoulders of the voters, no one else. Regardless of what happens, what they see and experience, voters fail to understand that professional politicians are bought and paid for. They're ( professional politicians ) puppets for the wealthy, the powerful, and the influential.

Not only has political party division undermined this nation, but voter ignorance has contributed to our near social and economic collapse. We can blame Republicans, Democrats, and any other political label for our many woes, but if we're totally honest, and honest with ourselves, we'll place the blame where it rightfully belongs, and that's on the shoulders of every single voter that plays the party politics game, and votes to elect or to re-elect a professional politician to serve in government.

Again, professional politicians do not just waltz into Washington and take a seat, we elect them to office. So, why are we where we're at as a nation, as a people, and as a society? It's because we have allowed it to happen. We've aided and abetted those that have done the damage. We've given the crooks Carte Blanche to do as they damn well please, and that's exactly what they've done.

If you have ever voted for a professional politician to serve in government, then have the courage and self-respect to blame yourself, and stop placing the blame on the crooks.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No chicken for you!

Chicken is for closers!

 

[NYcarbineer]

So you've given up trying to defend the indefensible.....and now choose to attack the greatest President of the last 100 years?

Let's leave Ronaldus Maximus for another thread.

Watched Ann Coulter school Bill O'Reilly (aka; Ted Baxter) last night on how Ronaldus Magnus never bothered with the Black Vote at all. Or the Hispanic Vote.

He went after the White Vote exclusively. Reagan got the smallest percentage of the Black Vote, I think, ever

The two biggest ass-kickings in electoral history followed.

Is there a lesson in there?

Yeah, the lesson is, this isn't 1980.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. A chicken in every pot, a new Chevrolet in every garage......


It is difficult to fight materialism....in fact, it is a mistake to fight it in the absolute, meaning if the alternative is starvation and homelessness.

That was the reason for so much of Franklin Roosevelt's success.


And once the desire for material satisfaction is given societal blessing....well, the line between sustaining life and simple greed is blurred.

Government promises you the chicken, and the Chevy.

Few ask where government gets the money to fulfill those promises, but your part of the deal is your vote, and what bit of liberty they chip away from your birthright.



But, like it or not, if you agree to the deal....you are a Leftist.
"Dialectical materialism... is a philosophy of science and nature, based on the writings of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels,..." Dialectical materialism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia




2. Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.
Dennis Prager.


And, if the only reality is materialism, there is no such thing as the spiritual, or morality, or responsibility.


a. Even in the 19th century, as religious conviction waned, the warnings were there. Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’
Concentration camps, gulags, famine as a government policy, show trials, torture....everything.

Hence, the reason for the ascendancy of Leftism: free chicken, Chevrolets, and the ability to do whatever feels good.



3. All of this was predicted....warned of....almost two centuries ago, by Alexis de Tocqueville. Writing “Democracy in America” in the 1830’s, he described Liberalism as “an immense, tutelary power, which takes sole charge of assuring their enjoyment and of watching over their fate.” As he predicted, this power is “absolute, attentive to detail, regular, provident, and gentle,” and it “works willingly for their happiness, but it wishes to be the only agent and the sole arbiter of that happiness. It provides for their security, foresees and supplies their needs, guides them in their principal affairs, directs their industry, regulates their testaments, divides their inheritances.”

It is entirely proper to ask, as he asked, whether it can “relieve them entirely of the trouble of thinking and of the effort associated with living.”




4. We Americans have stumbled into the great sea change, from a nation based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government, to one under the thumb of despotism. Think not? Still believe in the Constitution and on checks and balances?

Recently, the 'President' spit on those checks and balances:
" Obama Dares GOP: Go Ahead, ‘Have a Vote on Whether What I’m Doing Is Legal…I Will Veto’

“So in the short term,if Mr. McConnell, the leader of the Senate, and the Speaker of the House, John Boehner,want to have a vote on whether what I’m doing is legal or not, they can have that vote. I will veto that vote, because I’m absolutely confident that what we’re doing is the right thing to do.”
Obama Dares GOP Go Ahead Have a Vote on Whether What I m Doing Is Legal I Will Veto MRCTV

Why Are We Where We Are?

Simple answer that says it all: Stupid voters enabled us to get to this point in American history.

Our "downfall" is the direct result of voters electing and re-electing professional politicians to run this once great nation. Our politicians do NOT just waltz into Washington and take a seat in government. And, after seeing and experiencing the obvious social and economic damage inflicted by those elected to office, voters continue to do the exact same thing election after election, then complain about everything from taxes, to foreign policy, to employment, to health care, to illegal immigration, to wars, to our astronomical and rising national debt, and to our loss of privacy.

The blame for the mess this country is in, falls squarely on the shoulders of the voters, no one else. Regardless of what happens, what they see and experience, voters fail to understand that professional politicians are bought and paid for. They're ( professional politicians ) puppets for the wealthy, the powerful, and the influential.

Not only has political party division undermined this nation, but voter ignorance has contributed to our near social and economic collapse. We can blame Republicans, Democrats, and any other political label for our many woes, but if we're totally honest, and honest with ourselves, we'll place the blame where it rightfully belongs, and that's on the shoulders of every single voter that plays the party politics game, and votes to elect or to re-elect a professional politician to serve in government.

Again, professional politicians do not just waltz into Washington and take a seat, we elect them to office. So, why are we where we're at as a nation, as a people, and as a society? It's because we have allowed it to happen. We've aided and abetted those that have done the damage. We've given the crooks Carte Blanche to do as they damn well please, and that's exactly what they've done.

If you have ever voted for a professional politician to serve in government, then have the courage and self-respect to blame yourself, and stop placing the blame on the crooks.

You know the old saying 'He went to Washington to do good, and he did well.'

Human desire for personal aggrandizement.

That's why the need for checks and balances.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The massive government spending program of WWII is what got us out of the Depression?

lol, are you sure?

No, you stupid pile of shit.

The fact that we bombed the most of the entire World's Industrial Centers into rubble got us out of the Depression.

You really are a stupid bitch.

No it didn't. The massive government spending program to build the war machine is what put people to work.

Yes, the government can create jobs.

Btw, the country came out of recession in 1933.

 

[Edgetho]

I'm going to tell you why we're where we are......

scumbag liberturdians. Don't think so?

Read on

scumbag liberturdians ran Ross Pirogi against a good and decent man in George HW Bush. Not the greatest Presidnet ever, but a good and decent man nonetheless.

And please don't try to tell me Pirogi wasn't a liberturdian running on a Conservative Platform. You'd be lying if you did.

That liberturdian treachery gave way to Bill THE RAPIST Clinton and his uglier than sin thunder-thighs walkind Ad for FDS wife, Hitlery.

Then, in 2012, when we had a GOOD chance of taking the White House from the worst scumbag in history (not just the worst president, the worst scumbag ever).....

liberturdian scum, under the umbrella of the Tea Party, ran dirtbags like Todd "Legitimate Rape' Akin and Richard "Rape resulting in pregnancy is God's will' Mourdock.

Oh yes, they were liberturdians. Just a different kind than Ron Paul or his idiot son.

Then, we got liberturdian SCUM running around stabbing the Republican party in the back by telling people that both parties are the same..... Suppressing the Conservative Vote

I hate liberturdians. Even more than I HATE dimocrap scum.

At least with dimocrap scum, they make no bones about pretending to be our friends then stab us in the back.