Zone1 Why would a 20-year-old kid just give up his life?

[rightwinger]

The gun is just the instrument.
There is something deeper going on with young disillusioned males involving many factors.

There is an infatuation with guns
More than just an instrument

The AR 15 is all part of his fantasy

 

[Donald H]

Now that there appears to be no damage to Trump's ear, the only theory that really works is that it was staged. The 8 shots fired in Trump's general direction were of course necessary for faking the ear hit.

The plot within the SS has been sufficiently established, but misunderstood as to it's intent. Wounded and dead are of very little consequence when the expected results of the plot are considered.

This was almost certainly planned to change America's entire political system to allow Trump to assume total dictatorial power.

 

[petro]

Could you possibly elucidate a bit I'm not challenging you I find this angle extremely intriguing.

There has always been that social outcast that others ruthlessly picked on, but today social media amplifies it. Add to that an obsession with violent imagery that was not available several decades ago, stirs fantasies of revenge for that small segment of youth that can't distinguish reality from fantasy. Many movies and games are quite disturbing with extreme violence. It definitely has an effect on the mind of an already disturbed individual.
With America's large population, a fraction of a percent of the population becomes a lot of disturbed individuals.
Today's drugs, both legal and illegal are also more widespread and a large portion of the shooters have been on anxiety medications, most likely mixed with alcohol and illegal drugs.
There is almost always clear and present behavioral warning signs of most of these kids. Yet, despite obvious mental issues, many are afraid to intervene and our mental health system and legal system fail to protect the rest of the public from people who are a danger to themselves or others.
Media plays a big part as a suicidal youth will now seek notoriety by outdoing the last, when years ago they might have just killed themselves in anonymity.
Our education system also fails young males, who by nature are restless with short attention spans in a one size fits all approach at teaching in schools that aesthetically appear the same as a county workhouse. They are disengaged and bored.

JMHO.

 

[Donald H]

Good one! Everything is indicating that he was the patsy selected for the plot to fire 8 shots in Trump's general direction and miss by 3 or 4 feet each time. And now we see that Trump's ear wasn't really hit with a bullet.

This plot by Trump's team is not unlike other plots in history to bring a eager dictator to power.

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[petro]

There is an infatuation with guns
More than just an instrument

The AR 15 is all part of his fantasy

Take away the gun, the problem is still there.
There are numerous ways to make mass casualties.

 

[rightwinger]

Take away the gun, the problem is still there.
There are numerous ways to make mass casualties.

So if you have shoot em up fantasies and don’t have access to a gun, the problem doesn’t go away?

 

[petro]

So if you have shoot em up fantasies and don’t have access to a gun, the problem doesn’t go away?

The fantasy just will be altered to another form of violence.
Doesn't stop the deeper rooted issues.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Take away the gun, the problem is still there.
There are numerous ways to make mass casualties.

But few as effective and accessible.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The fantasy just will be altered to another form of violence.

And fewer will die.

 

[petro]

But few as effective and accessible.

Still ignoring the cause.

 

[Donald H]

There has always been that social outcast that others ruthlessly picked on, but today social media amplifies it. Add to that an obsession with violent imagery that was not available several decades ago, stirs fantasies of revenge for that small segment of youth that can't distinguish reality from fantasy. Many movies and games are quite disturbing with extreme violence. It definitely has an effect on the mind of an already disturbed individual.
With America's large population, a fraction of a percent of the population becomes a lot of disturbed individuals.
Today's drugs, both legal and illegal are also more widespread and a large portion of the shooters have been on anxiety medications, most likely mixed with alcohol and illegal drugs.
There is almost always clear and present behavioral warning signs of most of these kids. Yet, despite obvious mental issues, many are afraid to intervene and our mental health system and legal system fail to protect the rest of the public from people who are a danger to themselves or others.
Media plays a big part as a suicidal youth will now seek notoriety by outdoing the last, when years ago they might have just killed themselves in anonymity.
Our education system also fails young males, who by nature are restless with short attention spans in a one size fits all approach at teaching in schools that aesthetically appear the same as a county workhouse. They are disengaged and bored.

JMHO.

'Effectively' there are no warning signs!

As the behaviour becomes closer to normal it becomes acceptable to the population. Mental health professionals are fully aware of the fact.

Amierca's wars have become normal and that is readily accepted with ambitious kids.

Involving one of those kids in a plot would be easily accomplished. This was one that dreamed of being accepted by his peers.

 

[petro]

And fewer will die.

Wow. Stunning improvement.
Just let the disturbed continue to put the public at risk, as long as they only kill a couple people.

You forget that explosives are readily available and can be made with ingredients available at Home Depot.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Still ignoring the cause.

Still ignoring the results.

We have measures to address the cause, too.

Gun humpers always pull this cheap tactic: Look at every proposal in a vacuum.

Yawn.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Wow. Stunning improvement.

That's right, fewer peole dying is a stunning improvement.

One has to be a normally developed adult with a normal baseline of human empathy to understand.

 

[petro]

That's right, fewer peole dying is a stunning improvement.

One has to be a normally developed adult with a normal baseline of human empathy to understand.

I put out my opinion. So did you.
We disagree.
You can save your misplaced sense of moral superiority.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I put out my opinion. So did you.
We disagree.
You can save your misplaced sense of moral superiority.

Oh, it's superior, and that a fact.

Only one of us sarcastically diminished the importance of fewer peope dying.

 

[Donald H]

Take away the gun, the problem is still there.
There are numerous ways to make mass casualties.

This was a young man that wasn't accepted by his peers. How could he not accept the offer of recognition he could only dream of finally getting? And deserving!

The guarantee he received on his personal safety wouldn't have been questioned for a minute!

 

[petro]

Oh, it's superior, and that a fact.

Only one of us sarcastically diminished the portable of fewer peope dying.

Obsessed is what I would define you as...

Move on and find another way to massage your inflated ego.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Obsessed is what I would define you as...
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Move on and find another way to massage your inflated ego.

Same goes for you. Maybe stop saying immoral crap, and you won't have to go on meme tantrums.

 

[lafayette]

Still ignoring the cause.

The cause may be inaddressable, whereas stps will prevent loss, injury, and death.