Why would anyone continue to claim the iraqi war was a failure?

[jgarden]

1) REMOVE SADDAM
DONE
2) STABILIZE COUNTRY
DONE
3) HAVE A REPUBLIC BORN OF THESE EVENTS
DONE

Am missing something here?

If I remember correctly, the whole premise for this war was based on the existance of WMD and Saddam's refusal to allow proper monitoring.

Stabilizing Iraq and creating a Republic were later justifications that the Bush Administration was forced to invent as face saving measures when no WMD could be found!

Document 52: Department of State Cable from George P. Shultz to the United States Embassy in Lebanon [et al.]. "Department Press Briefing, March 30, 1984," March 31, 1984.

..... It responds to questions from the press about U.S. policy regarding the Iran-Iraq war, and a department spokesperson says Iraq's chemical weapons use will not change U.S. interest in pursuing closer U.S.-Iraq relations.

Source: Declassified under the Freedom of Information Act

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/#docs

 

[DiamondDave]

1) REMOVE SADDAM
DONE
2) STABILIZE COUNTRY
DONE
3) HAVE A REPUBLIC BORN OF THESE EVENTS
DONE

Am missing something here?

If I remember correctly, the whole premise for this war was based on the existance of WMD and Saddam's refusal to allow proper monitoring.

Stabilizing Iraq and creating a Republic were later justifications that the Bush Administration was forced to invent as face saving measures when no WMD could be found!

Document 52: Department of State Cable from George P. Shultz to the United States Embassy in Lebanon [et al.]. "Department Press Briefing, March 30, 1984," March 31, 1984.

..... It responds to questions from the press about U.S. policy regarding the Iran-Iraq war, and a department spokesperson says Iraq's chemical weapons use will not change U.S. interest in pursuing closer U.S.-Iraq relations.

Source: Declassified under the Freedom of Information Act

Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein

Try reading the actual resolution..... it will keep you from sounding this ignorant again....

 

[JRK]

1) REMOVE SADDAM
DONE
2) STABILIZE COUNTRY
DONE
3) HAVE A REPUBLIC BORN OF THESE EVENTS
DONE

Am missing something here?

If I remember correctly, the whole premise for this war was based on the existance of WMD and Saddam's refusal to allow proper monitoring.

Stabilizing Iraq and creating a Republic were later justifications that the Bush Administration was forced to invent as face saving measures when no WMD could be found!

Document 52: Department of State Cable from George P. Shultz to the United States Embassy in Lebanon [et al.]. "Department Press Briefing, March 30, 1984," March 31, 1984.

..... It responds to questions from the press about U.S. policy regarding the Iran-Iraq war, and a department spokesperson says Iraq's chemical weapons use will not change U.S. interest in pursuing closer U.S.-Iraq relations.

Source: Declassified under the Freedom of Information Act

Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein

Damn people

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080707/pl_afp/usiraqcanadauraniumnuclear_080707154601

Quote, July 7, 2008: "At Iraq's request, the US military this year transferred hundreds of metric tons of yellowcake uranium from Iraq to Canada in a secret, weeks-long operation, a Pentagon spokesman said Monday.

The 550 metric tons of uranium, which was sold to a Canadian company, was moved by truck convoy to Baghdad's "Green Zone," then flown by military aircraft to a third country where it was put on a ship for Canada, said Bryan Whitman, the spokesman.

The yellow cake was discovered by US troops after the 2003 US invasion of Iraq at the Tuwaitha Nuclear Research Facility south of Baghdad, and was placed under the control of the International Atomic Energy Agency."


Defense.gov News Article: Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says

Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says

By Samantha L. Quigley
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, June 29, 2006 – The 500 munitions discovered throughout Iraq since 2003 and discussed in a National Ground Intelligence Center report meet the criteria of weapons of mass destruction, the center's commander said here today.
"These are chemical weapons as defined under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and yes ... they do constitute weapons of mass destruction," Army Col. John Chu told the House Armed Services Committee.
The Chemical Weapons Convention is an arms control agreement which outlaws the production, stockpiling and use of chemical weapons. It was signed in 1993 and entered into force in 1997.
The munitions found contain sarin and mustard gases, Army Lt. Gen. Michael D. Maples, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, said. Sarin attacks the neurological system and is potentially lethal

How much WMDs do you want and as far as the UN goes, this is the smoking gun from Jan 2003
Chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix remarked in January 2003 that "Iraq appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance—not even today—of the disarmament, which was demanded of it and which it needs to carry out to win the confidence of the world and to live in peace."[115] Among other things he noted that 1,000 short tons (910 t) of chemical agent were unaccounted for, information on Iraq's VX nerve agent program was missing, and that "no convincing evidence" was presented for the destruction of 8,500 litres (1,900 imp gal; 2,200 US gal) of anthrax that had been declared.[115]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War
and
What Iraq must do:

Guarantee safety of U2 surveillance flights over Iraq; Stop harassing UN inspectors; Explain production of more of the nerve agent VX than declared; Account for 1,000 tonnes of chemical agents from Iraq-Iran War; Account for 6,500 missing chemical rockets; Produce evidence that it has destroyed 8,500 litres of anthrax; Declare whereabouts of 650kg of bacterial growth media, enough to produce 5,000 litres of concentrated anthrax; Halt production of Al Samoud 2 and Al Fatah with a range beyond the 150km limit; Reveal whereabouts of 380 rocket engines, smuggled into Iraq last month with chemicals used for missile propellants and control systems; Provide more names of scientists involved in weapons of mass destruction. So far only 400 of an estimated 3,500 people have been named; Provide scientists for private interview; Hand over sensitive documents hidden in private homes and documents detailing purchase or destruction of suspect materials; Search for banned weapons and destroy them under UN supervision.
Iraq set tougher weapons test by Blix - Times Online

Now you have WMDs in the form of war heads tht were to have been destroyed years prior
you have yellow cake
you have anthrax that is still missing as well as 6000 war heads, etc... above

DO YOUR DD AND STOP REPEATING LIES YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD

 

[JakeStarkey]

The neo-con progressive right wingers, like JRK and his supporter, have failed to make any sense. We all know what is true and what is not, what is likely and what is not likely. We all know JRK is engaged in mental masturbation, which can be a lot of fun but always, even more so in JRK's, is sterile. and toxic, in JRK's case.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Robber? Oh you mean when he left there with copies of some documents by accident?

Damn, accidentally shoved them down his pants and forgot they were there..

In April 2005, Berger pled guilty to a misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified material from the National Archives in Washington. According to the lead prosecutor in the case Berger only took copies of classified information and no original material was destroyed.

Sandy Berger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh and who on the left is trying to hide the children killing sanctions place on Iraq?

You partisan hacks are something else.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The neo-con progressive right wingers,

Are those like Lassez Faire Communists?

ROFL

Could you be more retarded?

like JRK and his supporter, have failed to make any sense. We all know what is true and what is not, what is likely and what is not likely. We all know JRK is engaged in mental masturbation, which can be a lot of fun but always, even more so in JRK's, is sterile. and toxic, in JRK's case.

 

[JRK]

The neo-con progressive right wingers,

Are those like Lassez Faire Communists?

ROFL

Could you be more retarded?

like JRK and his supporter, have failed to make any sense. We all know what is true and what is not, what is likely and what is not likely. We all know JRK is engaged in mental masturbation, which can be a lot of fun but always, even more so in JRK's, is sterile. and toxic, in JRK's case.

who wrote that crap?
Jake?
how can you report such slander?
Please do like I do and ignore him
I will lookm into seeing what I can do to get his slandering ass off of this borad

 

[Uncensored2008]

who wrote that crap?
Jake?
how can you report such slander?
Please do like I do and ignore him
I will lookm into seeing what I can do to get his slandering ass off of this borad

Ignore Jake?

He's one of the most entertaining posters on the board. He takes stupidity to lengths that Jim Carey could only dream of. He puts the "more" in moron....

Jake makes this board what it is!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Uncensored has just described himself, excpet he is not very interesting, but is normally wrong, just as JRK.

JRK is tied up in fits that his right-wing progressive neo-con imperialism and talking points have been shoved down his throat. He attacks then cries when he is easily refuted. He cries when he is made fun of. He needs to grow up.

 

[JRK]

who wrote that crap?
Jake?
how can you report such slander?
Please do like I do and ignore him
I will lookm into seeing what I can do to get his slandering ass off of this borad

Ignore Jake?

He's one of the most entertaining posters on the board. He takes stupidity to lengths that Jim Carey could only dream of. He puts the "more" in moron....

Jake makes this board what it is!

well I hate too put you on ignore also but you are not giving me much choice here
he is not slandering your name nor is he lying about you on a public forum
Jake, you might want to take the hint
"public"
"slander"

 

[BlindBoo]

It may have had something to do with oil.

It may have something to do with the anthrax that has never been found
the close to 1 million Iraqis that Saddam killed
It may have to do with the lies Saddam had been telling the world
It may have something to do with the 550 metric tons of yellow cake he had control of
Oil?
Iraq supplies about 3% of the worlds oil

Arguing that Hussein wasn't a threat in the middle east is a non-starter. He clearly was. The technology is the threat far more then the stockpiles. We know he had them because he used them against Iran as well as in Kuwait and to murder his own people. This is why I don't support my own anti-war "allies." They have to keep going to this brain dead argument.

The reason not to do it is because we don't belong in the middle east at all. We have to remove our troops and not be involved in every conflict. Let them handle their own problems and let the Euros deal with it. In that way we would have fewer enemies in the world. Just because someone's a bad guy or a bully doesn't mean I need to challenge them to a fight. But to argue that Hussein wasn't a threat because we didn't find stockpiles of WMD's is just frankly retarded. You've got the right side, now argue the right reason.

Iraq was a threat after the support he recieved from the Raygun and the West. Which is where he got the technology as well as the precursor chemical and biological agents to develop such weapons in the first place. However it is simply not true that he was a credible threat even in conventional term to his neighbors much less the worlds remaining superpower. Both Powell and Rice are on record saying as much. Iraq was not a threat worth the life of one single American soldier.

 

[BlindBoo]

Robber? Oh you mean when he left there with copies of some documents by accident?

Damn, accidentally shoved them down his pants and forgot they were there..

In April 2005, Berger pled guilty to a misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified material from the National Archives in Washington. According to the lead prosecutor in the case Berger only took copies of classified information and no original material was destroyed.

Sandy Berger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh and who on the left is trying to hide the children killing sanctions place on Iraq?

You partisan hacks are something else.

Like Bugs says "What a Maroonie!"

 

[NoNukes]

Saddam killed 1 million people
Saddam had 6500 munitions that were WMDs according to the UN, we found about 500
Saddam had 800 ltrs of anthrax we have not found, according to the UN
Saddam had control of 550 metric tons of yellow cake until we inveded 2003
by the way, why did ethanol fail?
alternative fuel?
not about terror?

One more thing, the 93 WTC bombing was done by a man who was a Iraqi citizen

now what do you have to add tho that?
terror?
ot about terror

do your DD you would see that iraq supplies 3% of the worlds oil

So, you are denying that America's interest in the middle east stems from oil?
9/11 was done by Saudis, why did Bush not attack saudi Arabia?
You are denying that we need to head towards alternative energy sources. You are full of denial.

sing your logic then we did the right thing invading Iraq. The person who did the first WTC bombing in 93 was an Iraqi citizen
Denial?
There is nothing but information in that thread.
Ethanol failed
Obama gave GM 50 billion of our wealth and the they cannot give the volt away still

What does Iraq suppling 3% of the worlds oil or have to do with denial, in fact i am a firm supporter of nuclear energy as well as the oil shale we have in abundance right here in this country. Obama is the one holding that up.

Understanding a liberal is so hard for us that live in realville. Stop an re read mu thread
its just information, thats all
how many people Saddam killed
Info on WMDs
how much oil that Iraq supplies the world

etc....

You just do not understand, we have to begin getting away from dependence on oil, and nuclear energy is too dangerous.
And, once again, why did Bush attack Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia? Most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi. You justify attacking Iraq because of one man.

Your info on WMDs comes from where? You are one of the few people who believe in this.Where were your voices when Saddam was killing these people, Saddam who was put into power by America.
Why are we not after these monsters in Africa.
Iraq is not the only middle eastern country that supplies oil. America's interest in the middle east is because of oil, period.
I stay away from realville because it is inhabited with your kind, and I find that boring.

 

[JRK]

It may have something to do with the anthrax that has never been found
the close to 1 million Iraqis that Saddam killed
It may have to do with the lies Saddam had been telling the world
It may have something to do with the 550 metric tons of yellow cake he had control of
Oil?
Iraq supplies about 3% of the worlds oil

Arguing that Hussein wasn't a threat in the middle east is a non-starter. He clearly was. The technology is the threat far more then the stockpiles. We know he had them because he used them against Iran as well as in Kuwait and to murder his own people. This is why I don't support my own anti-war "allies." They have to keep going to this brain dead argument.

The reason not to do it is because we don't belong in the middle east at all. We have to remove our troops and not be involved in every conflict. Let them handle their own problems and let the Euros deal with it. In that way we would have fewer enemies in the world. Just because someone's a bad guy or a bully doesn't mean I need to challenge them to a fight. But to argue that Hussein wasn't a threat because we didn't find stockpiles of WMD's is just frankly retarded. You've got the right side, now argue the right reason.

Iraq was a threat after the support he recieved from the Raygun and the West. Which is where he got the technology as well as the precursor chemical and biological agents to develop such weapons in the first place. However it is simply not true that he was a credible threat even in conventional term to his neighbors much less the worlds remaining superpower. Both Powell and Rice are on record saying as much. Iraq was not a threat worth the life of one single American soldier.

First what your opinion of what that soldier who made those sacrifices is non of your fucking business
That between that soldier and the sacrifices HE or SHE made along with the REASONS
not you! not Powell! not Rice!

Stock piles of wmds?
do you want to do this 4 ever?
did Iraq do the following?
What Iraq must do:

Guarantee safety of U2 surveillance flights over Iraq; Stop harassing UN inspectors; Explain production of more of the nerve agent VX than declared; Account for 1,000 tonnes of chemical agents from Iraq-Iran War; Account for 6,500 missing chemical rockets; Produce evidence that it has destroyed 8,500 litres of anthrax; Declare whereabouts of 650kg of bacterial growth media, enough to produce 5,000 litres of concentrated anthrax; Halt production of Al Samoud 2 and Al Fatah with a range beyond the 150km limit; Reveal whereabouts of 380 rocket engines, smuggled into Iraq last month with chemicals used for missile propellants and control systems; Provide more names of scientists involved in weapons of mass destruction. So far only 400 of an estimated 3,500 people have been named; Provide scientists for private interview; Hand over sensitive documents hidden in private homes and documents detailing purchase or destruction of suspect materials; Search for banned weapons and destroy them under UN supervision.

Iraq set tougher weapons test by Blix - Times Online

Please take note that the 6500 missing munitions is at 6000 now as we found over 500 of them after we invaded
From the DOD

Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says

By Samantha L. Quigley
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, June 29, 2006 – The 500 munitions discovered throughout Iraq since 2003 and discussed in a National Ground Intelligence Center report meet the criteria of weapons of mass destruction, the center's commander said here today.
"These are chemical weapons as defined under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and yes ... they do constitute weapons of mass destruction," Army Col. John Chu told the House Armed Services Committee.
The Chemical Weapons Convention is an arms control agreement which outlaws the production, stockpiling and use of chemical weapons. It was signed in 1993 and entered into force in 1997.
The munitions found contain sarin and mustard gases, Army Lt. Gen. Michael D. Maples, director of the
Defense.gov News Article: Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says
and last but not least
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080707/pl_afp/usiraqcanadauraniumnuclear_080707154601

Quote, July 7, 2008: "At Iraq's request, the US military this year transferred hundreds of metric tons of yellowcake uranium from Iraq to Canada in a secret, weeks-long operation, a Pentagon spokesman said Monday.

The 550 metric tons of uranium, which was sold to a Canadian company, was moved by truck convoy to Baghdad's "Green Zone," then flown by military aircraft to a third country where it was put on a ship for Canada, said Bryan Whitman, the spokesman.

The yellow cake was discovered by US troops after the 2003 US invasion of Iraq at the Tuwaitha Nuclear Research Facility south of Baghdad, and was placed under the control of the International Atomic Energy Agency."

..Again! more evidence that Saddam HAD materials for WMDs!

Please stop lying BOO
you being against the war is your right
telling those kids who volunteered to be there your against it is not
using reasons to support your beliefs that do not exist is not your right

 

[idb]

Saddam killed 1 million people
Saddam had 6500 munitions that were WMDs according to the UN, we found about 500
Saddam had 800 ltrs of anthrax we have not found, according to the UN
Saddam had control of 550 metric tons of yellow cake until we inveded 2003
by the way, why did ethanol fail?
alternative fuel?
not about terror?

One more thing, the 93 WTC bombing was done by a man who was a Iraqi citizen

now what do you have to add tho that?
terror?
ot about terror

do your DD you would see that iraq supplies 3% of the worlds oil

So, you are denying that America's interest in the middle east stems from oil?
9/11 was done by Saudis, why did Bush not attack saudi Arabia?
You are denying that we need to head towards alternative energy sources. You are full of denial.

sing your logic then we did the right thing invading Iraq. The person who did the first WTC bombing in 93 was an Iraqi citizen
Denial?
There is nothing but information in that thread.
Ethanol failed
Obama gave GM 50 billion of our wealth and the they cannot give the volt away still

What does Iraq suppling 3% of the worlds oil or have to do with denial, in fact i am a firm supporter of nuclear energy as well as the oil shale we have in abundance right here in this country. Obama is the one holding that up.

Understanding a liberal is so hard for us that live in realville. Stop an re read mu thread
its just information, thats all
how many people Saddam killed
Info on WMDs
how much oil that Iraq supplies the world

etc....

But, that is simply wrong.
Why not follow your own advice and do some research rather than simply repeating untrue partisan talking points?

US Oil Production Forecast to Increase | HeatingOil.com
US oil production is forecast to increase in 2011 and 2012 thanks to more unconventional domestic shale reserves being tapped, the Energy Department says.

U.S. Oil Production to Increase 25% by 2016 - Is There a Way to Play It? - Seeking Alpha
According to the US government’s Energy Information Administration, domestic production of crude oil and related liquids rose 3 per cent last year to an average of 7.51m barrels a day – its highest level since 2002. The rise enabled a 2 per cent drop in US oil imports to 9.45m b/d, in spite of rising demand as the economy recovered. US oil imports have fallen steadily since 2006.


FT.com / Companies / Oil & Gas - US oil production revives despite offshore disruption
US oil production last year rose to its highest level in almost a decade, thanks to an increase in the use of “unconventional” extraction techniques .

As a result, analysts believe the US was the largest contributor to the increase in global oil supplies last year over 2009, and is on track to increase domestic production by 25 per cent by the second half of the decade.

 

[JRK]

So, you are denying that America's interest in the middle east stems from oil?
9/11 was done by Saudis, why did Bush not attack saudi Arabia?
You are denying that we need to head towards alternative energy sources. You are full of denial.

sing your logic then we did the right thing invading Iraq. The person who did the first WTC bombing in 93 was an Iraqi citizen
Denial?
There is nothing but information in that thread.
Ethanol failed
Obama gave GM 50 billion of our wealth and the they cannot give the volt away still

What does Iraq suppling 3% of the worlds oil or have to do with denial, in fact i am a firm supporter of nuclear energy as well as the oil shale we have in abundance right here in this country. Obama is the one holding that up.

Understanding a liberal is so hard for us that live in realville. Stop an re read mu thread
its just information, thats all
how many people Saddam killed
Info on WMDs
how much oil that Iraq supplies the world

etc....

You just do not understand, we have to begin getting away from dependence on oil, and nuclear energy is too dangerous.
And, once again, why did Bush attack Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia? Most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi. You justify attacking Iraq because of one man.

Your info on WMDs comes from where? You are one of the few people who believe in this.Where were your voices when Saddam was killing these people, Saddam who was put into power by America.
Why are we not after these monsters in Africa.
Iraq is not the only middle eastern country that supplies oil. America's interest in the middle east is because of oil, period.
I stay away from realville because it is inhabited with your kind, and I find that boring.

no your trying to claim the war was not justified because non of the hi jacker's were from Iraq
My info on the WMDs comes from the DOD (department of defense)
the UN
Defense.gov News Article: Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says DOD
the UN

What Iraq must do:

Guarantee safety of U2 surveillance flights over Iraq; Stop harassing UN inspectors; Explain production of more of the nerve agent VX than declared; Account for 1,000 tonnes of chemical agents from Iraq-Iran War; Account for 6,500 missing chemical rockets; Produce evidence that it has destroyed 8,500 litres of anthrax; Declare whereabouts of 650kg of bacterial growth media, enough to produce 5,000 litres of concentrated anthrax; Halt production of Al Samoud 2 and Al Fatah with a range beyond the 150km limit; Reveal whereabouts of 380 rocket engines, smuggled into Iraq last month with chemicals used for missile propellants and control systems; Provide more names of scientists involved in weapons of mass destruction. So far only 400 of an estimated 3,500 people have been named; Provide scientists for private interview; Hand over sensitive documents hidden in private homes and documents detailing purchase or destruction of suspect materials; Search for banned weapons and destroy them under UN supervision.

also
Iraq War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix remarked in January 2003 that "Iraq appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance—not even today—of the disarmament, which was demanded of it and which it needs to carry out to win the confidence of the world and to live in peace."[115] Among other things he noted that 1,000 short tons (910 t) of chemical agent were unaccounted for, information on Iraq's VX nerve agent program was missing, and that "no convincing evidence" was presented for the destruction of 8,500 litres (1,900 imp gal; 2,200 US gal) of anthrax that had been declared.[115]

Also:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080707/pl_afp/usiraqcanadauraniumnuclear_080707154601

Quote, July 7, 2008: "At Iraq's request, the US military this year transferred hundreds of metric tons of yellowcake uranium from Iraq to Canada in a secret, weeks-long operation, a Pentagon spokesman said Monday.

The 550 metric tons of uranium, which was sold to a Canadian company, was moved by truck convoy to Baghdad's "Green Zone," then flown by military aircraft to a third country where it was put on a ship for Canada, said Bryan Whitman, the spokesman.

The yellow cake was discovered by US troops after the 2003 US invasion of Iraq at the Tuwaitha Nuclear Research Facility south of Baghdad, and was placed under the control of the International Atomic Energy Agency."

There some who claim this yellow cake was found by the UN in 91?
If so the only reason we got it out in 08 was the invasion
Its nuts that GWB was called a liar by so many and that the UM never once publicly mentioned this mountain of yellow cake that at best was watched part time before 03, even if that part is true, and damn if was telling the truth more than the UN was

 

[JRK]

So, you are denying that America's interest in the middle east stems from oil?
9/11 was done by Saudis, why did Bush not attack saudi Arabia?
You are denying that we need to head towards alternative energy sources. You are full of denial.

sing your logic then we did the right thing invading Iraq. The person who did the first WTC bombing in 93 was an Iraqi citizen
Denial?
There is nothing but information in that thread.
Ethanol failed
Obama gave GM 50 billion of our wealth and the they cannot give the volt away still

What does Iraq suppling 3% of the worlds oil or have to do with denial, in fact i am a firm supporter of nuclear energy as well as the oil shale we have in abundance right here in this country. Obama is the one holding that up.

Understanding a liberal is so hard for us that live in realville. Stop an re read mu thread
its just information, thats all
how many people Saddam killed
Info on WMDs
how much oil that Iraq supplies the world

etc....

But, that is simply wrong.
Why not follow your own advice and do some research rather than simply repeating untrue partisan talking points?

US Oil Production Forecast to Increase | HeatingOil.com
US oil production is forecast to increase in 2011 and 2012 thanks to more unconventional domestic shale reserves being tapped, the Energy Department says.

U.S. Oil Production to Increase 25% by 2016 - Is There a Way to Play It? - Seeking Alpha
According to the US government’s Energy Information Administration, domestic production of crude oil and related liquids rose 3 per cent last year to an average of 7.51m barrels a day – its highest level since 2002. The rise enabled a 2 per cent drop in US oil imports to 9.45m b/d, in spite of rising demand as the economy recovered. US oil imports have fallen steadily since 2006.


FT.com / Companies / Oil & Gas - US oil production revives despite offshore disruption
US oil production last year rose to its highest level in almost a decade, thanks to an increase in the use of “unconventional” extraction techniques .

As a result, analysts believe the US was the largest contributor to the increase in global oil supplies last year over 2009, and is on track to increase domestic production by 25 per cent by the second half of the decade.

Partisan talking points?
untrue?
what the hell have i posted that is untrue? the only thing worse than calling a grown man a liar is not being able to back it up, that is the lowest form of the human race
what the Un and the DOD and what we found in Iraq is not talking points
its information


What is that crap about oil production have to do with Iraq?

 

[JRK]

So, you are denying that America's interest in the middle east stems from oil?
9/11 was done by Saudis, why did Bush not attack saudi Arabia?
You are denying that we need to head towards alternative energy sources. You are full of denial.

sing your logic then we did the right thing invading Iraq. The person who did the first WTC bombing in 93 was an Iraqi citizen
Denial?
There is nothing but information in that thread.
Ethanol failed
Obama gave GM 50 billion of our wealth and the they cannot give the volt away still

What does Iraq suppling 3% of the worlds oil or have to do with denial, in fact i am a firm supporter of nuclear energy as well as the oil shale we have in abundance right here in this country. Obama is the one holding that up.

Understanding a liberal is so hard for us that live in realville. Stop an re read mu thread
its just information, thats all
how many people Saddam killed
Info on WMDs
how much oil that Iraq supplies the world

etc....

But, that is simply wrong.
Why not follow your own advice and do some research rather than simply repeating untrue partisan talking points?

US Oil Production Forecast to Increase | HeatingOil.com
US oil production is forecast to increase in 2011 and 2012 thanks to more unconventional domestic shale reserves being tapped, the Energy Department says.

U.S. Oil Production to Increase 25% by 2016 - Is There a Way to Play It? - Seeking Alpha
According to the US government’s Energy Information Administration, domestic production of crude oil and related liquids rose 3 per cent last year to an average of 7.51m barrels a day – its highest level since 2002. The rise enabled a 2 per cent drop in US oil imports to 9.45m b/d, in spite of rising demand as the economy recovered. US oil imports have fallen steadily since 2006.


FT.com / Companies / Oil & Gas - US oil production revives despite offshore disruption
US oil production last year rose to its highest level in almost a decade, thanks to an increase in the use of “unconventional” extraction techniques .

As a result, analysts believe the US was the largest contributor to the increase in global oil supplies last year over 2009, and is on track to increase domestic production by 25 per cent by the second half of the decade.

The oil fields at Prudhoe Bay are in decline. Currently about seven hundred thousand barrels a day are sent to Valdez. Since the administration and the Green movement have killed ANWR and any other oil fields close by, the pipeline is in danger of clogs and corroding due to the lack of oil flowing and the temperature. Without some sort of technical cure to the pipeline, we lose it soon.
Call it PERMIT-GATE.

» Clearing-up Today’s Obama Energy Lies - Big Government
This afternoon the President of the United States tried one again to mislead the public about domestic oil production and how much untapped oil is left in the ground. He said that domestic oil production is at the highest level in seven years and he indicated that American reserves are not adequate to help the US reduced its dependence on foreign oil. If Congressman Wilson was in the audience he might have repeated his famous shout “You Lie.”

Domestic Oil Production.
Obama commented that US oil production was at its highest point in seven years. That was both incorrect and misleading. Daily average production of oil last year 5,361,000 barrels/day the best since 2005’s 5,419,000/day. The real misleading fact about his statement, is that neither year is even close to levels seen only ten years before when production was 20% higher.

The President mentioned 35 offshore contracts were awarded, hiding the fact that off shore oil production has been way down since 2005, and that production took a big drop as soon as Obama took office (even before BP)

Source for both charts above the US Energy Information Administration.
Domestic Supply The President grossly undersold America’s oil supply saying that we only have 2% of the worlds supply. OK he didn’t undersell, he lied big time. The number is America’s proven reserves where we are already drilling. It does not include the 10 billion barrels available in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. It does not include most of the 86 billion barrels available offshore in the Outer Continental Shelf, most of which President Obama has placed under an executive drilling ban. And it does not include the 800 billion barrels of oil we have locked in shale in Wyoming, Utah, and Colorado. Those shale resources alone are actually three times larger than the proven reserves of Saudi Arabia, so the claim that the U.S. only has 2% of the world’s oil is clearly false.
A 2009 study by the non partisan Congressional Research Service (CRS) sheds light on America’s energy resources. It shows show the U.S. supply of recoverable oil to be 167 billion barrels of oil, the equivalent of replacing America’s current imports from OPEC countries for more than 75 years. And that’s just the oil, when you include gas and coal, the U.S. has energy reserves the equivalent of 1.3 trillion barrels.

On top of that there is more Oil to find. For example, in 2008 the US Geological Survey announced that the Arctic holds about 90 BILLION barrels of Oil, more than Nigeria, Kazakhstan and Mexico combined about one third of the reserves are in Alaskan waters. In the graph below the darker the blue the better the probability of Oil. In the map below the darker the green the more oil. The Dark green area between five and six o’clock is in Alaska territory, which is just under 30 Billion Barrels of Oil. And just like anything else in this world, politics will play a huge part in how soon we can get to it


Oil Companies Are Not Using The Leases They Have.
The President said the “Industry holds leases on tens of millions of acres both offshore and on land where they aren’t producing a thing.” and he said he wants to “encourage companies to produce [on] the leases they hold.”
If Obama is telling the truth, those oil companies must be run by idiots, paying for leases but not getting the product out of the ground so they can make money. Thankfully for those who hold stock in big oil, it isn’t that the oil companies are run by idiots its that the President thinks the American people are idiots and will believe that particular pack of lies.
A lease is for exploration and production, not just production, and because oil is not equally distributed across the globe, one parcel of leased acreage may not hold any oil. Moreover, due to government red-tape, which has gotten more complected under the Obama administration, it can take years for companies who own a lease to complete their exploration activities. To get to the production phase, it could take as long as ten years. Ironically, President Obama wants to tax companies for not producing on their leases, even if the federal government’s refusal to grant permits is the reason why those companies are not drilling.
The truth is, ever since Barack Obama took office the President has been making it more difficult to exploit our own energy resources, one of his first actions was having the Secretary of the Interior cancel leases to exploit our shale oil reserves in Utah. It seems as if President Obama’s energy policy consists of making America more dependent on foreign oil.

Does that make you feel better?

 

[Uncensored2008]

well I hate too put you on ignore also but you are not giving me much choice here
he is not slandering your name nor is he lying about you on a public forum
Jake, you might want to take the hint
"public"
"slander"

Jake slanders me all the time.

I just don't care. No one takes him seriously. He's a buffoon, a clown. Someone to be laughed at.

 

[idb]

sing your logic then we did the right thing invading Iraq. The person who did the first WTC bombing in 93 was an Iraqi citizen
Denial?
There is nothing but information in that thread.
Ethanol failed
Obama gave GM 50 billion of our wealth and the they cannot give the volt away still

What does Iraq suppling 3% of the worlds oil or have to do with denial, in fact i am a firm supporter of nuclear energy as well as the oil shale we have in abundance right here in this country. Obama is the one holding that up.

Understanding a liberal is so hard for us that live in realville. Stop an re read mu thread
its just information, thats all
how many people Saddam killed
Info on WMDs
how much oil that Iraq supplies the world

etc....

But, that is simply wrong.
Why not follow your own advice and do some research rather than simply repeating untrue partisan talking points?

US Oil Production Forecast to Increase | HeatingOil.com
US oil production is forecast to increase in 2011 and 2012 thanks to more unconventional domestic shale reserves being tapped, the Energy Department says.

U.S. Oil Production to Increase 25% by 2016 - Is There a Way to Play It? - Seeking Alpha
According to the US government’s Energy Information Administration, domestic production of crude oil and related liquids rose 3 per cent last year to an average of 7.51m barrels a day – its highest level since 2002. The rise enabled a 2 per cent drop in US oil imports to 9.45m b/d, in spite of rising demand as the economy recovered. US oil imports have fallen steadily since 2006.


FT.com / Companies / Oil & Gas - US oil production revives despite offshore disruption
US oil production last year rose to its highest level in almost a decade, thanks to an increase in the use of “unconventional” extraction techniques .

As a result, analysts believe the US was the largest contributor to the increase in global oil supplies last year over 2009, and is on track to increase domestic production by 25 per cent by the second half of the decade.

The oil fields at Prudhoe Bay are in decline. Currently about seven hundred thousand barrels a day are sent to Valdez. Since the administration and the Green movement have killed ANWR and any other oil fields close by, the pipeline is in danger of clogs and corroding due to the lack of oil flowing and the temperature. Without some sort of technical cure to the pipeline, we lose it soon.
Call it PERMIT-GATE.

» Clearing-up Today’s Obama Energy Lies - Big Government
This afternoon the President of the United States tried one again to mislead the public about domestic oil production and how much untapped oil is left in the ground. He said that domestic oil production is at the highest level in seven years and he indicated that American reserves are not adequate to help the US reduced its dependence on foreign oil. If Congressman Wilson was in the audience he might have repeated his famous shout “You Lie.”

Domestic Oil Production.
Obama commented that US oil production was at its highest point in seven years. That was both incorrect and misleading. Daily average production of oil last year 5,361,000 barrels/day the best since 2005’s 5,419,000/day. The real misleading fact about his statement, is that neither year is even close to levels seen only ten years before when production was 20% higher.

The President mentioned 35 offshore contracts were awarded, hiding the fact that off shore oil production has been way down since 2005, and that production took a big drop as soon as Obama took office (even before BP)

Source for both charts above the US Energy Information Administration.
Domestic Supply The President grossly undersold America’s oil supply saying that we only have 2% of the worlds supply. OK he didn’t undersell, he lied big time. The number is America’s proven reserves where we are already drilling. It does not include the 10 billion barrels available in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. It does not include most of the 86 billion barrels available offshore in the Outer Continental Shelf, most of which President Obama has placed under an executive drilling ban. And it does not include the 800 billion barrels of oil we have locked in shale in Wyoming, Utah, and Colorado. Those shale resources alone are actually three times larger than the proven reserves of Saudi Arabia, so the claim that the U.S. only has 2% of the world’s oil is clearly false.
A 2009 study by the non partisan Congressional Research Service (CRS) sheds light on America’s energy resources. It shows show the U.S. supply of recoverable oil to be 167 billion barrels of oil, the equivalent of replacing America’s current imports from OPEC countries for more than 75 years. And that’s just the oil, when you include gas and coal, the U.S. has energy reserves the equivalent of 1.3 trillion barrels.

On top of that there is more Oil to find. For example, in 2008 the US Geological Survey announced that the Arctic holds about 90 BILLION barrels of Oil, more than Nigeria, Kazakhstan and Mexico combined about one third of the reserves are in Alaskan waters. In the graph below the darker the blue the better the probability of Oil. In the map below the darker the green the more oil. The Dark green area between five and six o’clock is in Alaska territory, which is just under 30 Billion Barrels of Oil. And just like anything else in this world, politics will play a huge part in how soon we can get to it


Oil Companies Are Not Using The Leases They Have.
The President said the “Industry holds leases on tens of millions of acres both offshore and on land where they aren’t producing a thing.” and he said he wants to “encourage companies to produce [on] the leases they hold.”
If Obama is telling the truth, those oil companies must be run by idiots, paying for leases but not getting the product out of the ground so they can make money. Thankfully for those who hold stock in big oil, it isn’t that the oil companies are run by idiots its that the President thinks the American people are idiots and will believe that particular pack of lies.
A lease is for exploration and production, not just production, and because oil is not equally distributed across the globe, one parcel of leased acreage may not hold any oil. Moreover, due to government red-tape, which has gotten more complected under the Obama administration, it can take years for companies who own a lease to complete their exploration activities. To get to the production phase, it could take as long as ten years. Ironically, President Obama wants to tax companies for not producing on their leases, even if the federal government’s refusal to grant permits is the reason why those companies are not drilling.
The truth is, ever since Barack Obama took office the President has been making it more difficult to exploit our own energy resources, one of his first actions was having the Secretary of the Interior cancel leases to exploit our shale oil reserves in Utah. It seems as if President Obama’s energy policy consists of making America more dependent on foreign oil.

Does that make you feel better?

So...if the the WH is making it so difficult for the oil companies why is production rising?