Why Would Holocaust Deniers Lie.

[Vastator]

the 6 mil figure was an est of the number of Jews on the continent when the war started. the actual number was much higher considering all the new camps founds.

namvet,
So you force me to do it here. Fine. I will include a picture of a couple of plaques. The old one on the left used to be at the holocaust memorial museum in Auschwitz. The one on the right appears there now. The old one says that 4 million Jews died at Auschwitz. Though it is a little hard to read, the new one says that only 1.5 million died there. And even that is probably an overestimate. Because there is probably a limit as to how far you can push your luck with the U.S. victors and its Jewish masters.

Now if the original estimates of the deaths at Auschwitz were so overblown, you can bet your ass that the original death estimates at all of the other Jewish internment camps were overblown as well. If you want to continue this debate, please do so in my thread "The holocaust. What a lie!"

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Wow man! I ain't sayin' your wrong. But if your thread didn't get any traffic... You just gotta let it go. Say it here.

Vastators,
What would you like me to tell you. How about the fact that Jews weren't gassed.

What was the zyclon b used for then? Lemme guess... Agriculture, right?

 

[Coyote]

I guess this is where we start pretending that Hitler was provoked by the Jews, didn't intend on killing them but only expelling them (because he kindly wanted to keep the families intact), that there was no extensive documentation by the Germans and all the Jews that survived the concentration camps were lying and...

 

[namvet]

deadmind don't know any more about this than what's down its pants. nothin'

 

[Coyote]

Because 6 mil is a magic no. quoted before 1922 when in Russia. No doubt a few million jews probably died in WWii, but they say over 65 million people died. Its time to quit making it about Jews, and frankly I do not believe there were large gas chambers. The wealthy Jews in Germany got out fine, they cared less about the Polish Jews, who by they way had their own partisan groups fighting . To make WWII about Jews is to decreased the value of life of non jews. Also Judea declared war on Germany when Hitler got elected.

2/3 of the Jewish population of Europe were exterminated - because they were Jews. Can you get your mind around that figure?

 

[namvet]

as you can see dead dick has taken a powder

 

[Desperado]

BTY its against German law to deny it in public. a big fine and 5 years in the gray bar motel

It is against the law to even question any aspect of the holocaust story. Now, when you have to pass a law to prohibit people from even discussing the supposed "facts" then you have a problem since the truth does not need laws to protect it.

Can you imagine if he US passed a law that forbid questioning of the Warren Report?
or the findings of the 9/11 Commission? Think that would have the exact opposite effect.
Making people question those events even more.

 

[Vastator]

BTY its against German law to deny it in public. a big fine and 5 years in the gray bar motel

It is against the law to even question any aspect of the holocaust story. Now, when you have to pass a law to prohibit people from even discussing the supposed "facts" then you have a problem since the truth does not need laws to protect it.

Can you imagine if he US passed a law that forbid questioning of the Warren Report?
or the findings of the 9/11 Commission? Think that would have the exact opposite effect.
Making people question those events even more.

You have a point.

 

[Coyote]

I don't believe banning it is ever good. For one - it drives it underground, for another it legitimizes it in the eyes of it's adherents through the perception of persecution. It's better to have it out in the open where it can be combatted with facts.

 

[namvet]

BTY its against German law to deny it in public. a big fine and 5 years in the gray bar motel

It is against the law to even question any aspect of the holocaust story. Now, when you have to pass a law to prohibit people from even discussing the supposed "facts" then you have a problem since the truth does not need laws to protect it.

Can you imagine if he US passed a law that forbid questioning of the Warren Report?
or the findings of the 9/11 Commission? Think that would have the exact opposite effect.
Making people question those events even more.

my guess would be Currently, fourteen European countries as well as the State of Israel either explicitly prohibit the denial of the Holocaust or have enacted laws that can be used to punish Holocaust deniers. However, two questions arise with respect to these laws. First, are they effective in preventing the resurgence of Nazism and the promotion of hatred and genocide? And second, do these laws violate free speech, and if they do, is this a permissible violation?

 

[Gracie]

Why? Because it is so horrifying to acknowledge, it is best to deny it ever happened.

It did. Be horrified.

 

[namvet]

Spielberg's Schindler's list is as good a source as any. based on survivor accounts and testimony

 

[Desperado]

Spielberg's Schindler's list is as good a source as any. based on survivor accounts and testimony

well that settles that if Spielberg said it was true then it must be true,

 

[namvet]

Spielberg's Schindler's list is as good a source as any. based on survivor accounts and testimony

well that settles that if Spielberg said it was true then it must be true,

no it was the survivors who validated it

 

[irosie91]

Who would have reason to lie about the holocaust and why. If the holocaust happened as is generally believed, why would there be those who would deny it. Let's list the reasons.
1. To make money. There are people who write books or give lectures to make money by supporting all sorts of conspiracy theories. I imagine holocaust denial would fit right in.
2. To cover the guilt of having killed so many "innocent" people. Which is no reason to me. There are people out there who would say that even if 6 million Jews were killed, it wasn't nearly enough.
3. To help sell the idea of White patriotism not being so bad by saying White patriots didn't kill as many Jews as is generally believed.
4. Those who don't like the Jews would likely be interested in slandering them by saying that the Jews mostly made up the whole holocaust thing.

Now let's say that the holocaust was largely a fabrication. Why would people lie by saying that 6 million Jews were killed. Let's list those reasons.
1. For the victors to demonize their enemies is a tactic that is probably as old as mankind. A holocaust story would help do that.
2. In 1933, a London newspaper headline read, "Judea declares war on Germany." And in war it is said that truth is the first casuality. The Jews controlled the movie industry. They may have also had a major influence in the raido industry. This gave them a huge "soapbox" from which to spread their lies.
3. Jews probably sought revenge against the Germans for having dared to deport or force out the "chosen of GOD!"
4. Reparations were made by Germany for the whole holocaust thing. As far as I know, they're still being made. If the holocaust was shown to largely have been a fraud, those reparations would dry up. Jews may even have to pay most of them back.
5. The U.S. might lessen its funding of Israel. A country that it already gave nuclear weapons to.
6. By playing the "pity" card, Jews can get away with far more.
7. For many Christians, a good way to prove the power of their imaginary god is to support the Jewish people.
8. If the holocaust was ever disproved, Jews might again be persecuted.
9. National Socialism was economically sucessful. Capitalism wasn't and still isn't. To support "The American Way," it would be very helpful to discredit National Socialism in any way possible.
10. Stalin was the real monster. The holocaust and other things could be supported so the U.S. doesn't look so bad for having supported Stalin.
11. If the holocaust was shown to largely be a fraud, most people would feel extrmemly suckered. They would lose even more faith in the U.S. government.
12. German National Socialism wasn't into the whole multiethnic society thing that is constantly being shoved down Americans throats. So to support their multiethnic society, they have to discredit the White patriot national socialist party. Etc.

Keep in mind that history is written by the victors. Consider the power the U.S. government and the jews have to see that their version of history prevails. Compare to that to the power of the few who seek the truth for the truth's sake. Holocaust deniers vs holocaust promoters. Holocaust promoters have much more reason to lie.

Holocaust DENIAL is part and parcel of the CREED OF NAZISM just as hatred
and vilification of "capitalism" is part and parcel of the creed of communism.
Holocaust denial propaganda was injected in to the basic Nazi beliefs at the
time that Nazi persecution of jews BEGAN ------it did not develope denovo after world war II . Eager Nazis and Islamo-nazis in general embraced the concept
WORLD WIDE way back in the mid 1930s. The reason is simple-----Nazism and islamo Nazism are supposed to be UNIVERSAL UTOPIAN ideologies which
when FULLY IMPLEMENTED lead to a world EVERYONE wants. Nazis are
not the only deniers. There are catholics even today who insist that the
Inquisition caused virtually no deaths or human suffering. "maybe a few thousand" . Russian communism was "cleansed" by purging STALIN----
out of the system

 

[irosie91]

BTY its against German law to deny it in public. a big fine and 5 years in the gray bar motel

Imagine that, can't debate the death of Jews in WWII , just non debatable. Thank Goodness I live in the USA and everything is debatable. When they tell you just believe, makes you wonder why. It has been so programed into people, most do not question it. Who in the heck cares, how many Germans died.

BTY its against German law to deny it in public. a big fine and 5 years in the gray bar motel

Imagine that, can't debate the death of Jews in WWII , just non debatable. Thank Goodness I live in the USA and everything is debatable. When they tell you just believe, makes you wonder why. It has been so programed into people, most do not question it. Who in the heck cares, how many Germans died.

all decent people care how many germans died and how many jews died and how many have died in the civil wars in Syria and in Yemen. Both denial and indifference are indicators of serious personality disorder. Indifference to massive genocide is the stuff of which islamo Nazis are made or more generally
it is the stuff of which the scum of humanity is made. I was a child in town full
of penelopianesque scum. Lots of "DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION" who insisted African blacks who were slaves on Plantations
were LUCKY to have been rescued from Africa. Histories of massive genocides
were ignored in the history classes-----especially those committed by the glorious
"EXPLORERS OF THE NEW WORLD" who came to the Americas seeking
TRUTH AND JUSTICE AND FREEDOM for all

 

[Sunni Man]

Spielberg's Schindler's list is as good a source as any. based on survivor accounts and testimony

Swindler's List is a novel that was listed as a work of fiction by book sellers.

It makes a great fantasy story for gullible people who thought the book was a documentary. .....

 

[irosie91]

Spielberg's Schindler's list is as good a source as any. based on survivor accounts and testimony

Swindler's List was a novel that was listed as a work of fiction by book sellers.

It made a great fantasy story for gullible people who thought the book was a documentary. .....

people have various opinions about various books------ I have copies of the koran
next to books written by whores and pimps who glorify their worlds in the gutter on
the basis of LIKE BOOKS should lean upon each other. I do not actually buy
such books------my husband buys cartons of books that contain books on art.-----
the smut and also some very excellent books -----come along. I separate them
into groups depending on content

 

[Penelope]

Spielberg's Schindler's list is as good a source as any. based on survivor accounts and testimony

well that settles that if Spielberg said it was true then it must be true,

no it was the survivors who validated it

you must mean the skin lamp shade bit.

 

[namvet]

Spielberg's Schindler's list is as good a source as any. based on survivor accounts and testimony

Swindler's List is a novel that was listed as a work of fiction by book sellers.

It makes a great fantasy story for gullible people who thought the book was a documentary. .....

well well our resident faggot muzzie showed up

 

[Coyote]

as you can see dead dick has taken a powder

How much time does it take to powder an ass? He must have fallen into the toilet.