Will Blacks Abandon the Democrat Party?

[Mac1958]

Maybe a little here and there, but I don't see much changing for quite a while.

First, it's taken two or three generations for the Democrats to leverage political correctness and identity politics to largely isolate blacks from the rest of society. That kind of damage and conditioning can't be reversed overnight.

Second, the GOP is still COMPLETELY paralyzed by the effects of PC and are afraid to speak out against these tactics for fear of being labeled racists. So, they evidently think that blacks will just gravitate to them because they're tired of Democrats. I don't see that happening to any large extent. The GOP can't just stand there with a come-hither look. They have to actually DO something.

Nothing of significance happens unless and until the GOP grows some stones and calls the Democrats out for the damage they've done.

Not holding my breath on that one.

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[Seawytch]

Maybe a little here and there, but I don't see much changing for quite a while.

First, it's taken two or three generations for the Democrats to leverage political correctness and identity politics to largely isolate blacks from the rest of society. That kind of damage and conditioning can't be reversed overnight.

Second, the GOP is still COMPLETELY paralyzed by the effects of PC and are afraid to speak out against these tactics for fear of being labeled racists. So, they evidently think that blacks will just gravitate to them because they're tired of Democrats. I don't see that happening to any large extent. The GOP can't just stand there with a come-hither look. They have to actually DO something.

Nothing of significance happens unless and until the GOP grows some stones and calls the Democrats out for the damage they've done.

Not holding my breath on that one.

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Nothing of significance happens until you chase the racists out of the party. Don't give Democrats the ammunition to begin with.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Will Blacks Abandon the Democrat Party?

Nope.

 

[Rozman]

Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Obama both times. In return they have suffered more during this economy than whites. Most blacks are socially conservative and are horrified at the gay marriage business. Recall that black churches were instrumental in defeating the ballot measure in CA.

So having been screwed financially, having been promised a bunch of stuff that still hasnt been delivered on, having their values crapped all over, will blacks get the idea that Democrats are the party to exploit them and at least stay home on election day?

They would rather eat glass then not vote Democrat.

 

[B. Kidd]

The memory of segregation laws still run deep and long in the black American psyche. The perception is that voting for a Republican party that emphasizes states rights might end up setting them back 60 years. The intergenerational mantra within the black community to "always vote Democrat" is rooted in this fear and remains very strong.
This also helps explain why, even though the majority of blacks have conservative family values, politically they'll still vote Democrat.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Obama both times. In return they have suffered more during this economy than whites. Most blacks are socially conservative and are horrified at the gay marriage business. Recall that black churches were instrumental in defeating the ballot measure in CA.

So having been screwed financially, having been promised a bunch of stuff that still hasnt been delivered on, having their values crapped all over, will blacks get the idea that Democrats are the party to exploit them and at least stay home on election day?

They've overwhelmingly voted for pretty much any democratic presidential candidate for quite a while. Kerry, the whitest guy I know, got only a slightly lower percentage of the black vote than Obama.

What Obama did for blacks, however, is mobilize them. With significantly higher turn outs by blacks in both 2008 and 2012. I doubt you'll see quite the same turn out in 2016. But its extremely likely you'll see similar percentages of blacks voting democrat.

How has that mobilization made them any better off? Voting for people and policies that have made their financial situations worse, and who have promised them the sky and delivered nothing hasnt worked out well.
Unless you think blacks are too stupid to realize this.

Democrats have made blacks worse off because Democrats have been favoring Hispanic interests. Only about 1 in 6 blacks, maybe 1 in 4, would find Republican anti-racist policies to their liking. Republicans have nothing to offer most blacks because they favor and depend on Democratic racial spoils doled out to them.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Obama both times. In return they have suffered more during this economy than whites. Most blacks are socially conservative and are horrified at the gay marriage business. Recall that black churches were instrumental in defeating the ballot measure in CA.

So having been screwed financially, having been promised a bunch of stuff that still hasnt been delivered on, having their values crapped all over, will blacks get the idea that Democrats are the party to exploit them and at least stay home on election day?

They've overwhelmingly voted for pretty much any democratic presidential candidate for quite a while. Kerry, the whitest guy I know, got only a slightly lower percentage of the black vote than Obama.

What Obama did for blacks, however, is mobilize them. With significantly higher turn outs by blacks in both 2008 and 2012. I doubt you'll see quite the same turn out in 2016. But its extremely likely you'll see similar percentages of blacks voting democrat.

How has that mobilization made them any better off?

In comparison to what? I think you're going to have a very hard time convincing most blacks that republicans give a fiddler's fuck about them. Or have any interest in improving the lives of black folks. The recession was pretty brutal, especially to blacks. And it began before Obama took office. Making the 'obama's policies made their situation worse' angle a bit of a hard sell.

Blacks are unlikely to go anywhere. As there's only one party advocating for them, and that's the democrats. Republicans might as well be called the 'white wing party'. With a full 87% of Romney voters being white. That wasn't a coincidence.

That's right. Whites are the most anti-racist demographic in America, the Republicans offer no raced based policies, at all, and the Republicans won the majority of the anti-racist vote.

Look in the mirror, sister, it's you Democrats who have a lot to answer for.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Who's fault is it blacks vote dem anyway?

Blacks.

 

[1776]

The gay marriage ruling should backfire against the Democraps since they have finally done something most blacks oppose....gay marriage.

It will be interesting to see if they finally get off the Democrap plantation now that liberals have jammed gay shit down their throats.

 

[Rikurzhen]

When black culture changes for the better more of them will start becoming republican. Unfortunately I don't see that happening soon.

Asians are extremely well educated and generally a wealthy demographic overall and yet 2/3 of them still vote Democratic.

Because politics in the US is fundamentally all groups against whites. Asian get minority business set asides due to their race, they benefit from race-based policies. Voting along with Republicans to end racism in government would harm Asian self-interest.

 

[Rikurzhen]

The gay marriage ruling should backfire against the Democraps since they have finally done something most blacks oppose....gay marriage.

It will be interesting to see if they finally get off the Democrap plantation now that liberals have jammed gay shit down their throats.

Money beats principle. Blacks get lots of benefits handed to them by Democrats. Democrats exist to extract wealth from whites and transfer it to minorities.

 

[candycorn]

This was from another thread but is 100% indicative of the way conservatives think:

The 10 states with the worst quality of life (90% Red States)

To nobody's surprise, nine out of ten states (rated by Yahoo) for poorest quality of life for it's citizens are Red states in the South.

The 10 states with the worst quality of life - Yahoo Finance

Yet each one will be red in the next election or two....(with the possible exception of Arkansas). How Texas missed the list is anyone's guess.

10 Poorest Quality of Life States in the Union

#10 Georgia = 56.3% white; 30.1% black
#9 New Mexico = 40.9% white; 1.7% black
#8 Louisiana = 60.7% white; 31.7% black
#7 South Carolina = 64.3% white; 27.8% black
#6 Oklahoma = 69.1% white; 7.2% black
#5 Tennessee = 75.9% white; 16.5% black
#4 West Virginia = 93.2% white; 3.1% black
#3 Arkansas = 74.8% white; 15.4% black
#2 Alabama = 67.3% white; 26.1% black
#1 Mississippi = 58.2% white; 36.9% black

10 Richest Quality of Life States in the Union

#10 Wisconsin = 83.6% white; 6.1% black
#9 Washington = 73.1% white; 3.4% black
#8 Maine = 94.6% white; 1.0% black
#7 Massachusetts = 76.9%white; 6.1% black
#6 Colorado = 70.3% white; 3.7% black
#5 North Dakota= 89.2% white; 1.0% black
#4 Iowa = 89% white; 2.6% black
#3 Vermont = 94.4% white; 0.8% black
#2 Minnesota = 83.4% white; 4.9% black
#1 New Hampshire = 92.4% white; 1.0% black

Anyone seeing a pattern?

Yep, Black people don't like the cold. I agree with them.

They also don't like

Working
Behaving
Not being criminals
Education
Raising their own damned children
Staying Sober
Being Productive members of society

and

swimming, they hate swimming.

And of course, no conservative here will call them out on these idiotic views.

Interesting.

 

[blackhawk]

Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Obama both times. In return they have suffered more during this economy than whites. Most blacks are socially conservative and are horrified at the gay marriage business. Recall that black churches were instrumental in defeating the ballot measure in CA.

So having been screwed financially, having been promised a bunch of stuff that still hasnt been delivered on, having their values crapped all over, will blacks get the idea that Democrats are the party to exploit them and at least stay home on election day?

They might stay home on election day but those that don't will vote Democrat the black vote in my view is locked in Democrat. The irony of this is it really leaves the black community without a party the Republicans don't try to get the black vote anymore seeing as a waste of time and money and the Democrats know they don't have to follow through on there promises because the black vote is not going anywhere.

 

[JQPublic1]

As long as Democrats can lie blacks will vote for them.

And as long as Republicans can lie White males will vote for them.

But the interesting question is why have the Asians and Jews cast their lot with the democrats? Could these brilliant citizens know something you don't?

 

[JQPublic1]

Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Obama both times. In return they have suffered more during this economy than whites. Most blacks are socially conservative and are horrified at the gay marriage business. Recall that black churches were instrumental in defeating the ballot measure in CA.

So having been screwed financially, having been promised a bunch of stuff that still hasnt been delivered on, having their values crapped all over, will blacks get the idea that Democrats are the party to exploit them and at least stay home on election day?

They might stay home on election day but those that don't will vote Democrat the black vote in my view is locked in Democrat. The irony of this is it really leaves the black community without a party the Republicans don't try to get the black vote anymore seeing as a waste of time and money and the Democrats know they don't have to follow through on there promises because the black vote is not going anywhere.

You are so full 'o shit I'll bet your sweat is greenish brown. How about giving us a clue as to what promises the democrats made to minorities that have not been kept. You do know, don't you?

 

[Discombobulated]

Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Obama both times. In return they have suffered more during this economy than whites. Most blacks are socially conservative and are horrified at the gay marriage business. Recall that black churches were instrumental in defeating the ballot measure in CA.

So having been screwed financially, having been promised a bunch of stuff that still hasnt been delivered on, having their values crapped all over, will blacks get the idea that Democrats are the party to exploit them and at least stay home on election day?

Once Obama is out of office Republicans won't know what to say, they don't have a viable strategy to attract any kind of new voters, black or otherwise.

 

[blackhawk]

Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Obama both times. In return they have suffered more during this economy than whites. Most blacks are socially conservative and are horrified at the gay marriage business. Recall that black churches were instrumental in defeating the ballot measure in CA.

So having been screwed financially, having been promised a bunch of stuff that still hasnt been delivered on, having their values crapped all over, will blacks get the idea that Democrats are the party to exploit them and at least stay home on election day?

They might stay home on election day but those that don't will vote Democrat the black vote in my view is locked in Democrat. The irony of this is it really leaves the black community without a party the Republicans don't try to get the black vote anymore seeing as a waste of time and money and the Democrats know they don't have to follow through on there promises because the black vote is not going anywhere.

You are so full 'o shit I'll bet your sweat is greenish brown. How about giving us a clue as to what promises the democrats made to minorities that have not been kept. You do know, don't you?

How about the fact Obama and the Democrats promised the black community that they would revitalize the inner city, improve unemployment for blacks especially young black males reduce the crime rate among blacks again especially among young black males improve education in black communities? All of these things are the same or worse than when the Democrats took control in January of 2009 which puts them under the heading of promises not keep you may now deny all of this.

 

[JQPublic1]

Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Obama both times. In return they have suffered more during this economy than whites. Most blacks are socially conservative and are horrified at the gay marriage business. Recall that black churches were instrumental in defeating the ballot measure in CA.

So having been screwed financially, having been promised a bunch of stuff that still hasnt been delivered on, having their values crapped all over, will blacks get the idea that Democrats are the party to exploit them and at least stay home on election day?

They might stay home on election day but those that don't will vote Democrat the black vote in my view is locked in Democrat. The irony of this is it really leaves the black community without a party the Republicans don't try to get the black vote anymore seeing as a waste of time and money and the Democrats know they don't have to follow through on there promises because the black vote is not going anywhere.

You are so full 'o shit I'll bet your sweat is greenish brown. How about giving us a clue as to what promises the democrats made to minorities that have not been kept. You do know, don't you?

How about the fact Obama and the Democrats promised the black community that they would revitalize the inner city, improve unemployment for blacks especially young black males reduce the crime rate among blacks again especially among young black males improve education in black communities? All of these things are the same or worse than when the Democrats took control in January of 2009 which puts them under the heading of promises not keep you may now deny all of this.

Where is the link that supports your narrative? Put up or shut up!

 

[blackhawk]

Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Obama both times. In return they have suffered more during this economy than whites. Most blacks are socially conservative and are horrified at the gay marriage business. Recall that black churches were instrumental in defeating the ballot measure in CA.

So having been screwed financially, having been promised a bunch of stuff that still hasnt been delivered on, having their values crapped all over, will blacks get the idea that Democrats are the party to exploit them and at least stay home on election day?

They might stay home on election day but those that don't will vote Democrat the black vote in my view is locked in Democrat. The irony of this is it really leaves the black community without a party the Republicans don't try to get the black vote anymore seeing as a waste of time and money and the Democrats know they don't have to follow through on there promises because the black vote is not going anywhere.

You are so full 'o shit I'll bet your sweat is greenish brown. How about giving us a clue as to what promises the democrats made to minorities that have not been kept. You do know, don't you?

How about the fact Obama and the Democrats promised the black community that they would revitalize the inner city, improve unemployment for blacks especially young black males reduce the crime rate among blacks again especially among young black males improve education in black communities? All of these things are the same or worse than when the Democrats took control in January of 2009 which puts them under the heading of promises not keep you may now deny all of this.

Where is the link that supports your narrative? Put up or shut up!

Your response was as predicated if I provide a link you will call it a partisan hack source turn on the news or buy a newspaper those have been standard lines from the Democratic party going back to LBJ and his great society agenda.

 

[JQPublic1]

Money beats principle. Blacks get lots of benefits handed to them by Democrats. Democrats exist to extract wealth from whites and transfer it to minorities.

What benefits are handed to Blacks by democrats? Most Democrats are White so what the hell are you rambling about "extracting wealth from whites and transferring it to minorities?" You are way out there, fellow.