JakeStarkey
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- Aug 10, 2009
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Obama will be neither a top ten nor a bottom ten president for some time.
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Obama will be neither a top ten nor a bottom ten president for some time.
As I have been saying since he was elected, Obama will complete his second term as a top ten president
Nothing has changed
Your delusion does continue unabated.
As I have been saying since he was elected, Obama will complete his second term as a top ten president
Nothing has changed
Your delusion does continue unabated.
Historians are already ranking him in the 13-15 range
His second term will solidify many of his first term initiatives. He will move into the top ten after his second term is completed
Your delusion does continue unabated.
Historians are already ranking him in the 13-15 range
His second term will solidify many of his first term initiatives. He will move into the top ten after his second term is completed
Not a chance, in my opinion.
History decides who is the best and the worst.
For example, if 15 years from now some excavator comes across WMD's in an area of Iraq that is being developed, Bush will be seen as a muich better president than he is viewed as right now.
In regard to Obama...
if, in 15 years the ACA proves to be a positive and does not have the issues many believe it will, then he will have a great legacy.
If it is found 15 years from now that he knew all about Fast and Furious when he claimed to know nothing about it...and he knew from day one that the Benghazi attack was a terrorist attack and not at all affiliated with the anti Muslim film, his legacy will be severely tarnished.
Umm ... no.
I disagree. In fact, I'm not so sure we might have another POTUS shame-resignation, even with the dishonesty of the press.Umm ... no.
Sadly, you and I will likely be dead by the time history decides where our current President belongs in history.
I disagree.
If the ACA proves to be as he cliams...he will have instituted a law that was revolutionary and positively changed the lives of all Americans....and he will be in the top ten.
If GM within a few years becomes truly protfitable and pays off its debt...and is an industry leader without government involvement....he may jump to the top 5
If by the end of his second term, his policies are showing a trend in eliminating some of the debt...and that trend continues, he will most certainly be in the top 5
If all of the above prove to be failures, he will not crack the top 15....he may even live with a legacy of being a failure.
I disagree.
If the ACA proves to be as he cliams...he will have instituted a law that was revolutionary and positively changed the lives of all Americans....and he will be in the top ten.
If GM within a few years becomes truly protfitable and pays off its debt...and is an industry leader without government involvement....he may jump to the top 5
If by the end of his second term, his policies are showing a trend in eliminating some of the debt...and that trend continues, he will most certainly be in the top 5
If all of the above prove to be failures, he will not crack the top 15....he may even live with a legacy of being a failure.
I agree with most of this, but I do think that even if all of the above goes his way he won't crack the top 5.
I still stand by my belief that in the long run Bush and Obama will be fairly close together in the rankings.