Will Speaker Pelosi withhold articles of impeachment from Senate until guaranteed a fair trial?

This was Nancy's plan all along, vote by don't forward the shoddy work to the Senate. One hundred years from now people will wonder how Stalinist democrats ever had political power in the first place. "And that was the last time anyone ever saw a democrat in the USA"
 
The Articles of Impeachment DO NOT EXPIRE - not next year; not next Congress; not ever.

They will expire when McConnell sets the trial date. Once Pisslosi doesn’t turn over the required paperwork, vote to dismiss. Case closed.
 
Trump will likely add 5 states to his previous 30 State sweep, winning 35 States to 15, or, 70% of the States.

I don't know why so many Lefties do this. They don't seem to know how to distinguish between what they think was said and what was actually said.

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Not a substantive argument.
At some point they will likely file the articles, so, it's not worth a lot of energy. In fact, the entire thing is a rather meaningless farce, which is why the nation has largely tuned it out.

Impeachment is a powerful political remedy, a precondition for which is the making of a political case that persuades the public that the president should be removed; and unless the public is strongly persuaded, such that two-thirds of the Senate is moved to convict, it's a mistake for the House to impeach in the first place. If Pelosi follows through with filing charges in the Senate, we will have impeached two of the last 4 Presidents when it was clear that the case for removal had not been made.

This current circus was a bipolar misadventure. On the one hand, we have an abstract legal understanding of what an impeachable offense is, on the other hand, we have a practical political understanding that an impeachable offense must be so egregious that it justifies going through the upheaval that removing a president necessarily entails. Impeachment is committed to the Senate rather than a court because it should be decided by a numerous tribunal of statesmen exercising sound judgment, free from the legal constraints that bind prosecutors and judges.

So one could have a hundred impeachable offenses in the abstract legal sense, but you don’t truly have any impeachable offense absent abominable executive excess that galvanizes the public, and thus the Senate.

We are currently struggling with, in our Republic, the erosion of restraints on executive power.

The Framers decided, with reluctance, to include impeachment in the Constitution because it was “indispensable”. The presidency needed to be powerful, but that gave it a unique potential to damage, or even destroy, the republic and its new constitutional order. The sophisticated men who designed our system knew there would be plenty of executive overreach and error. This “maladministration” would be bad, but not bad enough to warrant removal. The Framers assumed that Congress’s principal check on the president would be the power of the purse: Control of funding could gut a president’s dubious initiatives and incentivize a president to behave lawfully. The Senate would also have the power to deny confirmation of officials the president would need to carry out programs.

Unfortunately, after a century of progressive governance, these no longer work. The federal government and its administrative state have grown monstrously big. Federal money is now as much tied to social welfare as to traditional government functions. Budgeting is slap-dash and dysfunctional. To threaten to deny funds or leave agencies leaderless is to be seen, not as reining in executive excess, but as heartlessly harming this or that interest group. Lawmakers would rather run up tens of trillions in debt than be portrayed that way.

The only real check left is impeachment. It is rarely invoked and until very recently has atrophied as a credible threat. But that doesn’t make it any less indispensable.

The problem was exacerbated by the Clinton impeachment fiasco, which history has proved foolhardy. Republicans were sufficiently spooked by the experience that they seemed to regard impeachment as obsolete. Clinton’s impeachment was a mistake because (a) his conduct, though disgraceful and indicative of unfitness, did not implicate the core responsibilities of the presidency; and more significantly, (b) the public, though appalled by the behavior, strongly opposed Clinton’s removal. The right lesson was that impeachment must be reserved for grave misconduct that involves the president’s essential Article II duties; and that because impeachment is so deeply divisive, it should never be launched in the absence of a public consensus that transcends partisan lines.

House investigations should not be partisan attacks under the guise of House inquiries, and it must respect the lawful and essential privileges of the executive branch; but within those parameters, Congress has the authority and responsibility to expose executive misconduct.

A failed impeachment effort would likely embolden a rogue president to continue abusing power. If your real concern is executive lawlessness, then impeaching heedlessly and against public opinion would be counterproductive.

Impeachment is about serious abuse of the presidency’s core powers, not behavior that is intemperate or gauche. The People, not the pundits, are sovereign, and we elected Donald Trump well aware of his flaws. That he is as president exactly what he represented himself to be as a candidate is not a rationale for impeaching him.

For the House to take the drastic step of being just short, filing the charges in the Senate, of impeaching the president is abusive of The Nation.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/12/trump-impeachment-congress-indispensable-power-revisiting-faithless-execution-book

I don't think anything is going to come of the impeachment either.
So, what did Democrats accomplish in their first year in the majority in 8 years?

What meaningful legislation can they pass with one branch of congress?...
None. In order to accomplish things for The American People, they have to work with the Senate, and unless they have overwhelming support in both Houses, they have to work with The President.
... If you like what the president is doing, then you're going to be against Democrats stopping his agenda...
Why would you want to stop his agenda?

Registered voters are feeling more positive about the economy than at any time in the last 18 years, as nearly three quarters, 73 percent, describe the economy as either excellent or good, while only a quarter, 25 percent, say not so good or poor. 26 percent who say it is excellent, which is a new high, and only 6 percent say poor.

"A 50-year low unemployment rate coupled with stocks hitting record highs are adding up to a rosy view of the economy and voters feeling optimistic about their own personal finances. That view of a strong economy seems to be helping President Trump match his highest job approval rating since being elected, despite facing becoming the third president in U.S. history to be impeached this week," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Mary Snow.​

A plurality of registered voters, 45 percent, say the nation's economy will be better next year, while 31 percent say worse. An overwhelming majority, 79 percent, say they are optimistic about their own financial future, while only 18 percent are pessimistic.
 
Not a substantive argument.
At some point they will likely file the articles, so, it's not worth a lot of energy. In fact, the entire thing is a rather meaningless farce, which is why the nation has largely tuned it out.

Impeachment is a powerful political remedy, a precondition for which is the making of a political case that persuades the public that the president should be removed; and unless the public is strongly persuaded, such that two-thirds of the Senate is moved to convict, it's a mistake for the House to impeach in the first place. If Pelosi follows through with filing charges in the Senate, we will have impeached two of the last 4 Presidents when it was clear that the case for removal had not been made.

This current circus was a bipolar misadventure. On the one hand, we have an abstract legal understanding of what an impeachable offense is, on the other hand, we have a practical political understanding that an impeachable offense must be so egregious that it justifies going through the upheaval that removing a president necessarily entails. Impeachment is committed to the Senate rather than a court because it should be decided by a numerous tribunal of statesmen exercising sound judgment, free from the legal constraints that bind prosecutors and judges.

So one could have a hundred impeachable offenses in the abstract legal sense, but you don’t truly have any impeachable offense absent abominable executive excess that galvanizes the public, and thus the Senate.

We are currently struggling with, in our Republic, the erosion of restraints on executive power.

The Framers decided, with reluctance, to include impeachment in the Constitution because it was “indispensable”. The presidency needed to be powerful, but that gave it a unique potential to damage, or even destroy, the republic and its new constitutional order. The sophisticated men who designed our system knew there would be plenty of executive overreach and error. This “maladministration” would be bad, but not bad enough to warrant removal. The Framers assumed that Congress’s principal check on the president would be the power of the purse: Control of funding could gut a president’s dubious initiatives and incentivize a president to behave lawfully. The Senate would also have the power to deny confirmation of officials the president would need to carry out programs.

Unfortunately, after a century of progressive governance, these no longer work. The federal government and its administrative state have grown monstrously big. Federal money is now as much tied to social welfare as to traditional government functions. Budgeting is slap-dash and dysfunctional. To threaten to deny funds or leave agencies leaderless is to be seen, not as reining in executive excess, but as heartlessly harming this or that interest group. Lawmakers would rather run up tens of trillions in debt than be portrayed that way.

The only real check left is impeachment. It is rarely invoked and until very recently has atrophied as a credible threat. But that doesn’t make it any less indispensable.

The problem was exacerbated by the Clinton impeachment fiasco, which history has proved foolhardy. Republicans were sufficiently spooked by the experience that they seemed to regard impeachment as obsolete. Clinton’s impeachment was a mistake because (a) his conduct, though disgraceful and indicative of unfitness, did not implicate the core responsibilities of the presidency; and more significantly, (b) the public, though appalled by the behavior, strongly opposed Clinton’s removal. The right lesson was that impeachment must be reserved for grave misconduct that involves the president’s essential Article II duties; and that because impeachment is so deeply divisive, it should never be launched in the absence of a public consensus that transcends partisan lines.

House investigations should not be partisan attacks under the guise of House inquiries, and it must respect the lawful and essential privileges of the executive branch; but within those parameters, Congress has the authority and responsibility to expose executive misconduct.

A failed impeachment effort would likely embolden a rogue president to continue abusing power. If your real concern is executive lawlessness, then impeaching heedlessly and against public opinion would be counterproductive.

Impeachment is about serious abuse of the presidency’s core powers, not behavior that is intemperate or gauche. The People, not the pundits, are sovereign, and we elected Donald Trump well aware of his flaws. That he is as president exactly what he represented himself to be as a candidate is not a rationale for impeaching him.

For the House to take the drastic step of being just short, filing the charges in the Senate, of impeaching the president is abusive of The Nation.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/12/trump-impeachment-congress-indispensable-power-revisiting-faithless-execution-book

I don't think anything is going to come of the impeachment either.
So, what did Democrats accomplish in their first year in the majority in 8 years?

What meaningful legislation can they pass with one branch of congress?...
None. In order to accomplish things for The American People, they have to work with the Senate, and unless they have overwhelming support in both Houses, they have to work with The President.
... If you like what the president is doing, then you're going to be against Democrats stopping his agenda...
Why would you want to stop his agenda?

Registered voters are feeling more positive about the economy than at any time in the last 18 years, as nearly three quarters, 73 percent, describe the economy as either excellent or good, while only a quarter, 25 percent, say not so good or poor. 26 percent who say it is excellent, which is a new high, and only 6 percent say poor.

"A 50-year low unemployment rate coupled with stocks hitting record highs are adding up to a rosy view of the economy and voters feeling optimistic about their own personal finances. That view of a strong economy seems to be helping President Trump match his highest job approval rating since being elected, despite facing becoming the third president in U.S. history to be impeached this week," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Mary Snow.​

A plurality of registered voters, 45 percent, say the nation's economy will be better next year, while 31 percent say worse. An overwhelming majority, 79 percent, say they are optimistic about their own financial future, while only 18 percent are pessimistic.

A plurality of voters also disapprove of the job Trump has done. A plurality of voters also believe that Trump deserves to be impeached.
 
Some House Democrats push Pelosi to withhold impeachment articles, delaying Senate trial

When will Speaker Pelosi send Articles of Impeachment to the Senate for trial? Apparently that is her choice if/when she sends them over for trial. It sounds like she is strategically waiting for feedback from McConnell about the rules/procedures - and FAIRNESS. If she thinks it's just going to be a sham trial - she may not send them over. The Articles of Impeachment DO NOT EXPIRE - not next year; not next Congress; not ever.

What do you think?
Pelosi does not define fair, she does not have this ability as she is Trump deranged.

In fact Pelosi does not want Trump impeached because if he were he would release tens of thousands of pages of documents and one of his sons would jump in the race and be elected ushering in 12 years of Trump minimum
 
At some point they will likely file the articles, so, it's not worth a lot of energy. In fact, the entire thing is a rather meaningless farce, which is why the nation has largely tuned it out.

Impeachment is a powerful political remedy, a precondition for which is the making of a political case that persuades the public that the president should be removed; and unless the public is strongly persuaded, such that two-thirds of the Senate is moved to convict, it's a mistake for the House to impeach in the first place. If Pelosi follows through with filing charges in the Senate, we will have impeached two of the last 4 Presidents when it was clear that the case for removal had not been made.

This current circus was a bipolar misadventure. On the one hand, we have an abstract legal understanding of what an impeachable offense is, on the other hand, we have a practical political understanding that an impeachable offense must be so egregious that it justifies going through the upheaval that removing a president necessarily entails. Impeachment is committed to the Senate rather than a court because it should be decided by a numerous tribunal of statesmen exercising sound judgment, free from the legal constraints that bind prosecutors and judges.

So one could have a hundred impeachable offenses in the abstract legal sense, but you don’t truly have any impeachable offense absent abominable executive excess that galvanizes the public, and thus the Senate.

We are currently struggling with, in our Republic, the erosion of restraints on executive power.

The Framers decided, with reluctance, to include impeachment in the Constitution because it was “indispensable”. The presidency needed to be powerful, but that gave it a unique potential to damage, or even destroy, the republic and its new constitutional order. The sophisticated men who designed our system knew there would be plenty of executive overreach and error. This “maladministration” would be bad, but not bad enough to warrant removal. The Framers assumed that Congress’s principal check on the president would be the power of the purse: Control of funding could gut a president’s dubious initiatives and incentivize a president to behave lawfully. The Senate would also have the power to deny confirmation of officials the president would need to carry out programs.

Unfortunately, after a century of progressive governance, these no longer work. The federal government and its administrative state have grown monstrously big. Federal money is now as much tied to social welfare as to traditional government functions. Budgeting is slap-dash and dysfunctional. To threaten to deny funds or leave agencies leaderless is to be seen, not as reining in executive excess, but as heartlessly harming this or that interest group. Lawmakers would rather run up tens of trillions in debt than be portrayed that way.

The only real check left is impeachment. It is rarely invoked and until very recently has atrophied as a credible threat. But that doesn’t make it any less indispensable.

The problem was exacerbated by the Clinton impeachment fiasco, which history has proved foolhardy. Republicans were sufficiently spooked by the experience that they seemed to regard impeachment as obsolete. Clinton’s impeachment was a mistake because (a) his conduct, though disgraceful and indicative of unfitness, did not implicate the core responsibilities of the presidency; and more significantly, (b) the public, though appalled by the behavior, strongly opposed Clinton’s removal. The right lesson was that impeachment must be reserved for grave misconduct that involves the president’s essential Article II duties; and that because impeachment is so deeply divisive, it should never be launched in the absence of a public consensus that transcends partisan lines.

House investigations should not be partisan attacks under the guise of House inquiries, and it must respect the lawful and essential privileges of the executive branch; but within those parameters, Congress has the authority and responsibility to expose executive misconduct.

A failed impeachment effort would likely embolden a rogue president to continue abusing power. If your real concern is executive lawlessness, then impeaching heedlessly and against public opinion would be counterproductive.

Impeachment is about serious abuse of the presidency’s core powers, not behavior that is intemperate or gauche. The People, not the pundits, are sovereign, and we elected Donald Trump well aware of his flaws. That he is as president exactly what he represented himself to be as a candidate is not a rationale for impeaching him.

For the House to take the drastic step of being just short, filing the charges in the Senate, of impeaching the president is abusive of The Nation.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/12/trump-impeachment-congress-indispensable-power-revisiting-faithless-execution-book

I don't think anything is going to come of the impeachment either.
So, what did Democrats accomplish in their first year in the majority in 8 years?

What meaningful legislation can they pass with one branch of congress?...
None. In order to accomplish things for The American People, they have to work with the Senate, and unless they have overwhelming support in both Houses, they have to work with The President.
... If you like what the president is doing, then you're going to be against Democrats stopping his agenda...
Why would you want to stop his agenda?

Registered voters are feeling more positive about the economy than at any time in the last 18 years, as nearly three quarters, 73 percent, describe the economy as either excellent or good, while only a quarter, 25 percent, say not so good or poor. 26 percent who say it is excellent, which is a new high, and only 6 percent say poor.

"A 50-year low unemployment rate coupled with stocks hitting record highs are adding up to a rosy view of the economy and voters feeling optimistic about their own personal finances. That view of a strong economy seems to be helping President Trump match his highest job approval rating since being elected, despite facing becoming the third president in U.S. history to be impeached this week," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Mary Snow.​

A plurality of registered voters, 45 percent, say the nation's economy will be better next year, while 31 percent say worse. An overwhelming majority, 79 percent, say they are optimistic about their own financial future, while only 18 percent are pessimistic.

A plurality of voters also disapprove of the job Trump has done. A plurality of voters also believe that Trump deserves to be impeached.

Actually Trumps numbers are going up up and away.

Stop being retarded and watching CNN and grow up
 
Some House Democrats push Pelosi to withhold impeachment articles, delaying Senate trial

When will Speaker Pelosi send Articles of Impeachment to the Senate for trial? Apparently that is her choice if/when she sends them over for trial. It sounds like she is strategically waiting for feedback from McConnell about the rules/procedures - and FAIRNESS. If she thinks it's just going to be a sham trial - she may not send them over. The Articles of Impeachment DO NOT EXPIRE - not next year; not next Congress; not ever.

What do you think?
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Some House Democrats push Pelosi to withhold impeachment articles, delaying Senate trial

When will Speaker Pelosi send Articles of Impeachment to the Senate for trial? Apparently that is her choice if/when she sends them over for trial. It sounds like she is strategically waiting for feedback from McConnell about the rules/procedures - and FAIRNESS. If she thinks it's just going to be a sham trial - she may not send them over. The Articles of Impeachment DO NOT EXPIRE - not next year; not next Congress; not ever.

What do you think?
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The Czarina of the House has no business telling the senate what to do.
 
At some point they will likely file the articles, so, it's not worth a lot of energy. In fact, the entire thing is a rather meaningless farce, which is why the nation has largely tuned it out.

Impeachment is a powerful political remedy, a precondition for which is the making of a political case that persuades the public that the president should be removed; and unless the public is strongly persuaded, such that two-thirds of the Senate is moved to convict, it's a mistake for the House to impeach in the first place. If Pelosi follows through with filing charges in the Senate, we will have impeached two of the last 4 Presidents when it was clear that the case for removal had not been made.

This current circus was a bipolar misadventure. On the one hand, we have an abstract legal understanding of what an impeachable offense is, on the other hand, we have a practical political understanding that an impeachable offense must be so egregious that it justifies going through the upheaval that removing a president necessarily entails. Impeachment is committed to the Senate rather than a court because it should be decided by a numerous tribunal of statesmen exercising sound judgment, free from the legal constraints that bind prosecutors and judges.

So one could have a hundred impeachable offenses in the abstract legal sense, but you don’t truly have any impeachable offense absent abominable executive excess that galvanizes the public, and thus the Senate.

We are currently struggling with, in our Republic, the erosion of restraints on executive power.

The Framers decided, with reluctance, to include impeachment in the Constitution because it was “indispensable”. The presidency needed to be powerful, but that gave it a unique potential to damage, or even destroy, the republic and its new constitutional order. The sophisticated men who designed our system knew there would be plenty of executive overreach and error. This “maladministration” would be bad, but not bad enough to warrant removal. The Framers assumed that Congress’s principal check on the president would be the power of the purse: Control of funding could gut a president’s dubious initiatives and incentivize a president to behave lawfully. The Senate would also have the power to deny confirmation of officials the president would need to carry out programs.

Unfortunately, after a century of progressive governance, these no longer work. The federal government and its administrative state have grown monstrously big. Federal money is now as much tied to social welfare as to traditional government functions. Budgeting is slap-dash and dysfunctional. To threaten to deny funds or leave agencies leaderless is to be seen, not as reining in executive excess, but as heartlessly harming this or that interest group. Lawmakers would rather run up tens of trillions in debt than be portrayed that way.

The only real check left is impeachment. It is rarely invoked and until very recently has atrophied as a credible threat. But that doesn’t make it any less indispensable.

The problem was exacerbated by the Clinton impeachment fiasco, which history has proved foolhardy. Republicans were sufficiently spooked by the experience that they seemed to regard impeachment as obsolete. Clinton’s impeachment was a mistake because (a) his conduct, though disgraceful and indicative of unfitness, did not implicate the core responsibilities of the presidency; and more significantly, (b) the public, though appalled by the behavior, strongly opposed Clinton’s removal. The right lesson was that impeachment must be reserved for grave misconduct that involves the president’s essential Article II duties; and that because impeachment is so deeply divisive, it should never be launched in the absence of a public consensus that transcends partisan lines.

House investigations should not be partisan attacks under the guise of House inquiries, and it must respect the lawful and essential privileges of the executive branch; but within those parameters, Congress has the authority and responsibility to expose executive misconduct.

A failed impeachment effort would likely embolden a rogue president to continue abusing power. If your real concern is executive lawlessness, then impeaching heedlessly and against public opinion would be counterproductive.

Impeachment is about serious abuse of the presidency’s core powers, not behavior that is intemperate or gauche. The People, not the pundits, are sovereign, and we elected Donald Trump well aware of his flaws. That he is as president exactly what he represented himself to be as a candidate is not a rationale for impeaching him.

For the House to take the drastic step of being just short, filing the charges in the Senate, of impeaching the president is abusive of The Nation.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/12/trump-impeachment-congress-indispensable-power-revisiting-faithless-execution-book

I don't think anything is going to come of the impeachment either.
So, what did Democrats accomplish in their first year in the majority in 8 years?

What meaningful legislation can they pass with one branch of congress?...
None. In order to accomplish things for The American People, they have to work with the Senate, and unless they have overwhelming support in both Houses, they have to work with The President.
... If you like what the president is doing, then you're going to be against Democrats stopping his agenda...
Why would you want to stop his agenda?

Registered voters are feeling more positive about the economy than at any time in the last 18 years, as nearly three quarters, 73 percent, describe the economy as either excellent or good, while only a quarter, 25 percent, say not so good or poor. 26 percent who say it is excellent, which is a new high, and only 6 percent say poor.

"A 50-year low unemployment rate coupled with stocks hitting record highs are adding up to a rosy view of the economy and voters feeling optimistic about their own personal finances. That view of a strong economy seems to be helping President Trump match his highest job approval rating since being elected, despite facing becoming the third president in U.S. history to be impeached this week," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Mary Snow.​

A plurality of registered voters, 45 percent, say the nation's economy will be better next year, while 31 percent say worse. An overwhelming majority, 79 percent, say they are optimistic about their own financial future, while only 18 percent are pessimistic.

A plurality of voters also disapprove of the job Trump has done. A plurality of voters also believe that Trump deserves to be impeached.
If a pollster asked me, I would say I want him impeached because I want the Senate Trial rather than the House's Kangaroo Court.

If you don't have 2/3rds for removal, you are never going to get the Senate to remove, especially during an election year. If the Voters don't want him to continue, they will say so. The Senate isn't going to take the decision out of the hands of the Electorate absent overwhelming support and strong evidence that his continuing in office offers a grave imminent threat. Neither impeachment article is even a statutory crime, the House never cut a single vacation short, and they just packed up and left without appoint managers or filing the impeachment articles with the US Senate, so clearly there is no sense of immediacy on the part of the House.

Yes/Remove was leading until the House Fiasco that just completed and now several polls have the Democrat position under water: CNN, Qpack, USA Today, NPR/PBS, Monmouth and Gallup.

And the economy is great, we have the strongest labor market of our lifetimes, strongest wage growth since Bill Clinton, the DOW setting fresh records all the time closing in on 30% gains for the year, and The Santa Claus Rally ringing in the Election year. Trump's going nowhere, he will be the quite formidable GOP nominee for President.

Trump's Presidency is much more like Clinton's than Dumb and Dumber's, the two dumbest back to back Presidents in US History. Trump himself in some ways is much more like Bill Clinton than either Dumb or Dumber, and similarly he has a knack for infuriating his opponents and causing them to humiliate themselves by overreacting.
 
I don't think anything is going to come of the impeachment either.
So, what did Democrats accomplish in their first year in the majority in 8 years?

What meaningful legislation can they pass with one branch of congress?...
None. In order to accomplish things for The American People, they have to work with the Senate, and unless they have overwhelming support in both Houses, they have to work with The President.
... If you like what the president is doing, then you're going to be against Democrats stopping his agenda...
Why would you want to stop his agenda?

Registered voters are feeling more positive about the economy than at any time in the last 18 years, as nearly three quarters, 73 percent, describe the economy as either excellent or good, while only a quarter, 25 percent, say not so good or poor. 26 percent who say it is excellent, which is a new high, and only 6 percent say poor.

"A 50-year low unemployment rate coupled with stocks hitting record highs are adding up to a rosy view of the economy and voters feeling optimistic about their own personal finances. That view of a strong economy seems to be helping President Trump match his highest job approval rating since being elected, despite facing becoming the third president in U.S. history to be impeached this week," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Mary Snow.​

A plurality of registered voters, 45 percent, say the nation's economy will be better next year, while 31 percent say worse. An overwhelming majority, 79 percent, say they are optimistic about their own financial future, while only 18 percent are pessimistic.

A plurality of voters also disapprove of the job Trump has done. A plurality of voters also believe that Trump deserves to be impeached.
If a pollster asked me, I would say I want him impeached because I want the Senate Trial rather than the House's Kangaroo Court.

If you don't have 2/3rds for removal, you are never going to get the Senate to remove, especially during an election year. If the Voters don't want him to continue, they will say so. The Senate isn't going to take the decision out of the hands of the Electorate absent overwhelming support and strong evidence that his continuing in office offers a grave imminent threat. Neither impeachment article is even a statutory crime, the House never cut a single vacation short, and they just packed up and left without appoint managers or filing the impeachment articles with the US Senate, so clearly there is no sense of immediacy on the part of the House.

Yes/Remove was leading until the House Fiasco that just completed and now several polls have the Democrat position under water: CNN, Qpack, USA Today, NPR/PBS, Monmouth and Gallup.

And the economy is great, we have the strongest labor market of our lifetimes, strongest wage growth since Bill Clinton, the DOW setting fresh records all the time closing in on 30% gains for the year, and The Santa Claus Rally ringing in the Election year. Trump's going nowhere, he will be the quite formidable GOP nominee for President.

Trump's Presidency is much more like Clinton's than Dumb and Dumber's, the two dumbest back to back Presidents in US History. Trump himself in some ways is much more like Bill Clinton than either Dumb or Dumber, and similarly he has a knack for infuriating his opponents and causing them to humiliate themselves by overreacting.

Would you say you approve or disapprove of his job performance?

Because a plurality of people say they disapprove of it.
 
I don't think anything is going to come of the impeachment either.
So, what did Democrats accomplish in their first year in the majority in 8 years?

What meaningful legislation can they pass with one branch of congress?...
None. In order to accomplish things for The American People, they have to work with the Senate, and unless they have overwhelming support in both Houses, they have to work with The President.
... If you like what the president is doing, then you're going to be against Democrats stopping his agenda...
Why would you want to stop his agenda?

Registered voters are feeling more positive about the economy than at any time in the last 18 years, as nearly three quarters, 73 percent, describe the economy as either excellent or good, while only a quarter, 25 percent, say not so good or poor. 26 percent who say it is excellent, which is a new high, and only 6 percent say poor.

"A 50-year low unemployment rate coupled with stocks hitting record highs are adding up to a rosy view of the economy and voters feeling optimistic about their own personal finances. That view of a strong economy seems to be helping President Trump match his highest job approval rating since being elected, despite facing becoming the third president in U.S. history to be impeached this week," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Mary Snow.​

A plurality of registered voters, 45 percent, say the nation's economy will be better next year, while 31 percent say worse. An overwhelming majority, 79 percent, say they are optimistic about their own financial future, while only 18 percent are pessimistic.

A plurality of voters also disapprove of the job Trump has done. A plurality of voters also believe that Trump deserves to be impeached.

Actually Trumps numbers are going up up and away.

Stop being retarded and watching CNN and grow up

Up and away to less than 50%?
 
Pelosi is brilliant.

If Impeachment goes to the Senate and Moscow Mitch just disposes of it...Trump will consider himself unleashed and who knows what he'd do.

Pelosi is holding this over him until there is a true Senate trial which very well will convict but will at least expose Trump for what he is to the American people...

As long as the threat of the trial is out there...Trump is at risk and his behavior has to reflect that
 
So, what did Democrats accomplish in their first year in the majority in 8 years?

What meaningful legislation can they pass with one branch of congress?...
None. In order to accomplish things for The American People, they have to work with the Senate, and unless they have overwhelming support in both Houses, they have to work with The President.
... If you like what the president is doing, then you're going to be against Democrats stopping his agenda...
Why would you want to stop his agenda?

Registered voters are feeling more positive about the economy than at any time in the last 18 years, as nearly three quarters, 73 percent, describe the economy as either excellent or good, while only a quarter, 25 percent, say not so good or poor. 26 percent who say it is excellent, which is a new high, and only 6 percent say poor.

"A 50-year low unemployment rate coupled with stocks hitting record highs are adding up to a rosy view of the economy and voters feeling optimistic about their own personal finances. That view of a strong economy seems to be helping President Trump match his highest job approval rating since being elected, despite facing becoming the third president in U.S. history to be impeached this week," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Mary Snow.​

A plurality of registered voters, 45 percent, say the nation's economy will be better next year, while 31 percent say worse. An overwhelming majority, 79 percent, say they are optimistic about their own financial future, while only 18 percent are pessimistic.

A plurality of voters also disapprove of the job Trump has done. A plurality of voters also believe that Trump deserves to be impeached.

Actually Trumps numbers are going up up and away.

Stop being retarded and watching CNN and grow up

Up and away to less than 50%?
He carried 30 states with a favorabilty rating in the low 30'.

And he's two points higher than Obama was at this point in his Presidency.

Presidential Job Approval Center
 
So, what did Democrats accomplish in their first year in the majority in 8 years?

What meaningful legislation can they pass with one branch of congress?...
None. In order to accomplish things for The American People, they have to work with the Senate, and unless they have overwhelming support in both Houses, they have to work with The President.
... If you like what the president is doing, then you're going to be against Democrats stopping his agenda...
Why would you want to stop his agenda?

Registered voters are feeling more positive about the economy than at any time in the last 18 years, as nearly three quarters, 73 percent, describe the economy as either excellent or good, while only a quarter, 25 percent, say not so good or poor. 26 percent who say it is excellent, which is a new high, and only 6 percent say poor.

"A 50-year low unemployment rate coupled with stocks hitting record highs are adding up to a rosy view of the economy and voters feeling optimistic about their own personal finances. That view of a strong economy seems to be helping President Trump match his highest job approval rating since being elected, despite facing becoming the third president in U.S. history to be impeached this week," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Mary Snow.​

A plurality of registered voters, 45 percent, say the nation's economy will be better next year, while 31 percent say worse. An overwhelming majority, 79 percent, say they are optimistic about their own financial future, while only 18 percent are pessimistic.

A plurality of voters also disapprove of the job Trump has done. A plurality of voters also believe that Trump deserves to be impeached.
If a pollster asked me, I would say I want him impeached because I want the Senate Trial rather than the House's Kangaroo Court.

If you don't have 2/3rds for removal, you are never going to get the Senate to remove, especially during an election year. If the Voters don't want him to continue, they will say so. The Senate isn't going to take the decision out of the hands of the Electorate absent overwhelming support and strong evidence that his continuing in office offers a grave imminent threat. Neither impeachment article is even a statutory crime, the House never cut a single vacation short, and they just packed up and left without appoint managers or filing the impeachment articles with the US Senate, so clearly there is no sense of immediacy on the part of the House.

Yes/Remove was leading until the House Fiasco that just completed and now several polls have the Democrat position under water: CNN, Qpack, USA Today, NPR/PBS, Monmouth and Gallup.

And the economy is great, we have the strongest labor market of our lifetimes, strongest wage growth since Bill Clinton, the DOW setting fresh records all the time closing in on 30% gains for the year, and The Santa Claus Rally ringing in the Election year. Trump's going nowhere, he will be the quite formidable GOP nominee for President.

Trump's Presidency is much more like Clinton's than Dumb and Dumber's, the two dumbest back to back Presidents in US History. Trump himself in some ways is much more like Bill Clinton than either Dumb or Dumber, and similarly he has a knack for infuriating his opponents and causing them to humiliate themselves by overreacting.

Would you say you approve or disapprove of his job performance?

Because a plurality of people say they disapprove of it.
Trump's 2 points higher than Obama was at this point in his Presidency, and his approval numbers are roughly double Congress'

Presidential Job Approval Center
 
Pelosi is brilliant.

If Impeachment goes to the Senate and Moscow Mitch just disposes of it...Trump will consider himself unleashed and who knows what he'd do.

Pelosi is holding this over him until there is a true Senate trial which very well will convict but will at least expose Trump for what he is to the American people...

As long as the threat of the trial is out there...Trump is at risk and his behavior has to reflect that

Lush gets it wrong again. McConnell has already told Pisslosi to fuck off and hit the bricks. You have ZERO advantage here. People already see you as cowards for being too gutless to send your bogus case to the Senate. Meaning Trump is NOT impeached since the process is not complete. McConnell can simply set a date and when the cowardly Dims don’t show, it’s case dismissed. End of story. There is no risk, except to how many seat seats the Dims lose next year. Which increases by the day.
 
So, what did Democrats accomplish in their first year in the majority in 8 years?

What meaningful legislation can they pass with one branch of congress?...
None. In order to accomplish things for The American People, they have to work with the Senate, and unless they have overwhelming support in both Houses, they have to work with The President.
... If you like what the president is doing, then you're going to be against Democrats stopping his agenda...
Why would you want to stop his agenda?

Registered voters are feeling more positive about the economy than at any time in the last 18 years, as nearly three quarters, 73 percent, describe the economy as either excellent or good, while only a quarter, 25 percent, say not so good or poor. 26 percent who say it is excellent, which is a new high, and only 6 percent say poor.

"A 50-year low unemployment rate coupled with stocks hitting record highs are adding up to a rosy view of the economy and voters feeling optimistic about their own personal finances. That view of a strong economy seems to be helping President Trump match his highest job approval rating since being elected, despite facing becoming the third president in U.S. history to be impeached this week," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Mary Snow.​

A plurality of registered voters, 45 percent, say the nation's economy will be better next year, while 31 percent say worse. An overwhelming majority, 79 percent, say they are optimistic about their own financial future, while only 18 percent are pessimistic.

A plurality of voters also disapprove of the job Trump has done. A plurality of voters also believe that Trump deserves to be impeached.

Actually Trumps numbers are going up up and away.

Stop being retarded and watching CNN and grow up

Up and away to less than 50%?

Why do you want your taxes tripled so that illegal immigrants can get stuff they did not work for that you pay for?

Try and answer without being retarded
 
What meaningful legislation can they pass with one branch of congress?...
None. In order to accomplish things for The American People, they have to work with the Senate, and unless they have overwhelming support in both Houses, they have to work with The President.
... If you like what the president is doing, then you're going to be against Democrats stopping his agenda...
Why would you want to stop his agenda?

Registered voters are feeling more positive about the economy than at any time in the last 18 years, as nearly three quarters, 73 percent, describe the economy as either excellent or good, while only a quarter, 25 percent, say not so good or poor. 26 percent who say it is excellent, which is a new high, and only 6 percent say poor.

"A 50-year low unemployment rate coupled with stocks hitting record highs are adding up to a rosy view of the economy and voters feeling optimistic about their own personal finances. That view of a strong economy seems to be helping President Trump match his highest job approval rating since being elected, despite facing becoming the third president in U.S. history to be impeached this week," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Mary Snow.​

A plurality of registered voters, 45 percent, say the nation's economy will be better next year, while 31 percent say worse. An overwhelming majority, 79 percent, say they are optimistic about their own financial future, while only 18 percent are pessimistic.

A plurality of voters also disapprove of the job Trump has done. A plurality of voters also believe that Trump deserves to be impeached.

Actually Trumps numbers are going up up and away.

Stop being retarded and watching CNN and grow up

Up and away to less than 50%?
He carried 30 states with a favorabilty rating in the low 30'.

And he's two points higher than Obama was at this point in his Presidency.

Presidential Job Approval Center

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval

Look at the approval vs the disapproval.

Obama:

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Trump
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What meaningful legislation can they pass with one branch of congress?...
None. In order to accomplish things for The American People, they have to work with the Senate, and unless they have overwhelming support in both Houses, they have to work with The President.
... If you like what the president is doing, then you're going to be against Democrats stopping his agenda...
Why would you want to stop his agenda?

Registered voters are feeling more positive about the economy than at any time in the last 18 years, as nearly three quarters, 73 percent, describe the economy as either excellent or good, while only a quarter, 25 percent, say not so good or poor. 26 percent who say it is excellent, which is a new high, and only 6 percent say poor.

"A 50-year low unemployment rate coupled with stocks hitting record highs are adding up to a rosy view of the economy and voters feeling optimistic about their own personal finances. That view of a strong economy seems to be helping President Trump match his highest job approval rating since being elected, despite facing becoming the third president in U.S. history to be impeached this week," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Mary Snow.​

A plurality of registered voters, 45 percent, say the nation's economy will be better next year, while 31 percent say worse. An overwhelming majority, 79 percent, say they are optimistic about their own financial future, while only 18 percent are pessimistic.

A plurality of voters also disapprove of the job Trump has done. A plurality of voters also believe that Trump deserves to be impeached.
If a pollster asked me, I would say I want him impeached because I want the Senate Trial rather than the House's Kangaroo Court.

If you don't have 2/3rds for removal, you are never going to get the Senate to remove, especially during an election year. If the Voters don't want him to continue, they will say so. The Senate isn't going to take the decision out of the hands of the Electorate absent overwhelming support and strong evidence that his continuing in office offers a grave imminent threat. Neither impeachment article is even a statutory crime, the House never cut a single vacation short, and they just packed up and left without appoint managers or filing the impeachment articles with the US Senate, so clearly there is no sense of immediacy on the part of the House.

Yes/Remove was leading until the House Fiasco that just completed and now several polls have the Democrat position under water: CNN, Qpack, USA Today, NPR/PBS, Monmouth and Gallup.

And the economy is great, we have the strongest labor market of our lifetimes, strongest wage growth since Bill Clinton, the DOW setting fresh records all the time closing in on 30% gains for the year, and The Santa Claus Rally ringing in the Election year. Trump's going nowhere, he will be the quite formidable GOP nominee for President.

Trump's Presidency is much more like Clinton's than Dumb and Dumber's, the two dumbest back to back Presidents in US History. Trump himself in some ways is much more like Bill Clinton than either Dumb or Dumber, and similarly he has a knack for infuriating his opponents and causing them to humiliate themselves by overreacting.

Would you say you approve or disapprove of his job performance?

Because a plurality of people say they disapprove of it.
Trump's 2 points higher than Obama was at this point in his Presidency, and his approval numbers are roughly double Congress'

Presidential Job Approval Center

Obama is 2.5 points higher in approval and 3.5 points less in disapproval.
 
None. In order to accomplish things for The American People, they have to work with the Senate, and unless they have overwhelming support in both Houses, they have to work with The President.
Why would you want to stop his agenda?

Registered voters are feeling more positive about the economy than at any time in the last 18 years, as nearly three quarters, 73 percent, describe the economy as either excellent or good, while only a quarter, 25 percent, say not so good or poor. 26 percent who say it is excellent, which is a new high, and only 6 percent say poor.

"A 50-year low unemployment rate coupled with stocks hitting record highs are adding up to a rosy view of the economy and voters feeling optimistic about their own personal finances. That view of a strong economy seems to be helping President Trump match his highest job approval rating since being elected, despite facing becoming the third president in U.S. history to be impeached this week," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Mary Snow.​

A plurality of registered voters, 45 percent, say the nation's economy will be better next year, while 31 percent say worse. An overwhelming majority, 79 percent, say they are optimistic about their own financial future, while only 18 percent are pessimistic.

A plurality of voters also disapprove of the job Trump has done. A plurality of voters also believe that Trump deserves to be impeached.

Actually Trumps numbers are going up up and away.

Stop being retarded and watching CNN and grow up

Up and away to less than 50%?
He carried 30 states with a favorabilty rating in the low 30'.

And he's two points higher than Obama was at this point in his Presidency.

Presidential Job Approval Center

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval

Look at the approval vs the disapproval.

Obama:

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Trump
View attachment 296008

Really doofus, eat this poll and enjoy the shits because that is what you are

The man who predicted 49 out of 50 states in 2012 has said who will win on Tuesday

HuffPost Forecasts Hillary Clinton Will Win With 323 Electoral Votes | HuffPost

Time to change your depends
 
What meaningful legislation can they pass with one branch of congress?...
None. In order to accomplish things for The American People, they have to work with the Senate, and unless they have overwhelming support in both Houses, they have to work with The President.
... If you like what the president is doing, then you're going to be against Democrats stopping his agenda...
Why would you want to stop his agenda?

Registered voters are feeling more positive about the economy than at any time in the last 18 years, as nearly three quarters, 73 percent, describe the economy as either excellent or good, while only a quarter, 25 percent, say not so good or poor. 26 percent who say it is excellent, which is a new high, and only 6 percent say poor.

"A 50-year low unemployment rate coupled with stocks hitting record highs are adding up to a rosy view of the economy and voters feeling optimistic about their own personal finances. That view of a strong economy seems to be helping President Trump match his highest job approval rating since being elected, despite facing becoming the third president in U.S. history to be impeached this week," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Mary Snow.​

A plurality of registered voters, 45 percent, say the nation's economy will be better next year, while 31 percent say worse. An overwhelming majority, 79 percent, say they are optimistic about their own financial future, while only 18 percent are pessimistic.

A plurality of voters also disapprove of the job Trump has done. A plurality of voters also believe that Trump deserves to be impeached.

Actually Trumps numbers are going up up and away.

Stop being retarded and watching CNN and grow up

Up and away to less than 50%?

Why do you want your taxes tripled so that illegal immigrants can get stuff they did not work for that you pay for?

Try and answer without being retarded

I didn't say I want that.

But I don't like Trump. And the majority of people don't like him either. Your "up up and away" bullshit is just stupid.
 

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