Will The Democrats Finally Admit They Are a Socialist Party?

[bripat9643]

Yes, we all know that the government handed AT&T a monopoly. However, your theory that everyone wouldn't have obtained a telephone without that monopoly is idiotic. Telephone market penetration was proceeding at astounding rates before the monopoly was granted. There was absolutely no economic justification for it. It was all special pleading by crony capitalists. Nothing is more predictable than corporations asking the government to be granted a legal monopoly.

BTW, why shouldn't rural dwellers pay more than urban inhabitants? Don't you think consumers should pay based on what it costs to provide the service?

No, because it that were true the South still wouldn't have a power grid. It's why there's no cable TV where I live. They'd lose money to install the infrastructure, so they don't, and now never will. That's capitalism baby, love it. leave it, or regulate it, which is what we do, for reasons like the above...

Well, if you live in the boonies, why do you think you're entitled to cable TV? You won't get it because now there's satellite TV. If you want to live where things like cable TV cost a lot more to provide, then you can't complain when you can't get it. If you don't like it, move.

People living in the boonies have a connection to the power grid because the parents of kids living in the ghetto are being taxed to pay for it.

Yeah, that sounds fair.

What you object to is that under the free market people have to pay what things actually cost. In other words, you're a self-centered idiot who thinks other people should subsidize your lifestyle.

 

[Camp]

Most libraries and college book stores have booklets, defining, explaining, giving examples and histories of the various ideologies.

Most of it is Marxist propaganda.

Even this guy was in on the global conspiracy. Obviously finger boy is more knowledgeable than this fella.

monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/

By the way, the guy wrote this back in 1949. That kind of blows away the "modern colleges" stupidity.

There used to be some conservatives in the social sciences prior to the 1960s. Now there are none.

As an economist, Einstein made a great physicist.

You are inferring that Einstein did not have the mental and intellectual abilities that you have. Einstein was not as bright as you when it came to economics. You didn't read his essay you dope. If you had you would have read his explanation as to how he was applying math and physics to analyzing economic systems and why it could be done in such a scientific manner. Einstein's 1949 essay is a scientific study of political ideologies.

 

[The sheeple sea]

Most libraries and college book stores have booklets, defining, explaining, giving examples and histories of the various ideologies.

Most of it is Marxist propaganda.

All of the books? Why would college book stores sell them if not correct? Lordy lordy what will we do for the truth, you don't suppose you could be talked into telling America the real truth about all those ideologies? So what is socialism? Are there different types? Do all of them lead to communism?

Colleges these days are little more than government indoctrination centers. Any subject that is even remotely political is taught by Marxists.

Been to a college lately? Doubt it. Plenty of politics taught all over the spectrum by people all over the spectrum. People come out with an education and you call it indoctrination. That to me seems like the talk of an idiot.

 

[BlackSand]

That isn't what I have posted at all ... I posted that they can accomplish "their goals" whatever your opinion of "their goals" may be.
You can either agree with that or not ... It doesn't vary depending on your opinion of what a Capitalists' goal may be and how it helps you (they aren't you and don't have your goals).

Your problem is that you don't like "their goals" and somehow think that makes a difference in whether or not a Capitalist can achieve "their goals".
Your crap isn't worth arguing with beyond that ... Because Capitalists either achieve their goals (at which point you may not like their goals) ... Or Capitalists don't achieve their goals (at which point you don't have anything to complain about).

Sorry ... But I don't think you are getting that very simple point ... And until you can understand that, there is no reason for me to argue about it with you.

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Ok, let's try this one more more time

What exactly are their goals?

Please note this is a simple question, not my opinion and I'm not complaining

To accomplish the task at hand, to meet the requirements necessary to succeed and to achieve a return on their investment.

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[Tehon]

Mises said fascism is a form of socialism.

Mises said fascism is a form of socialism.

citation?

Now that's funny, you don't know what Nazi stands for.

It's an acronym for National Socialist Workers Party. I can't believe you asked that, it's hilarious

Are you really that stupid or just being disingenuous?

Seriously dude, you are on the Internet. That you couldn't look up Nazi yourself was pathetic, but then when I told you, you call me stupid and/or a liar. Here you go, dumb ass

What does Nazi mean in German - Quora

The fullname of the political party was the "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" - the National Socialist German Worker's Party.

Highlight where I asked what Nazi stands for.

Well, which is it then? Are you really that stupid or just being disingenuous?

 

[bripat9643]

Most libraries and college book stores have booklets, defining, explaining, giving examples and histories of the various ideologies.

Most of it is Marxist propaganda.

All of the books? Why would college book stores sell them if not correct? Lordy lordy what will we do for the truth, you don't suppose you could be talked into telling America the real truth about all those ideologies? So what is socialism? Are there different types? Do all of them lead to communism?

Colleges these days are little more than government indoctrination centers. Any subject that is even remotely political is taught by Marxists.

Been to a college lately? Doubt it. Plenty of politics taught all over the spectrum by people all over the spectrum. People come out with an education and you call it indoctrination. That to me seems like the talk of an idiot.

Bullshit. They get Marxism shoved down their throats in every class. There are no conservatives in the sociology, anthropology or history departments, and very few in the economics departments. Numerous surveys have show this to be the case.

You're either an ignoramus or a bald faced liar.

 

[bripat9643]

Most libraries and college book stores have booklets, defining, explaining, giving examples and histories of the various ideologies.

Most of it is Marxist propaganda.

Even this guy was in on the global conspiracy. Obviously finger boy is more knowledgeable than this fella.

monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/

By the way, the guy wrote this back in 1949. That kind of blows away the "modern colleges" stupidity.

There used to be some conservatives in the social sciences prior to the 1960s. Now there are none.

As an economist, Einstein made a great physicist.

You are inferring that Einstein did not have the mental and intellectual abilities that you have. Einstein was not as bright as you when it came to economics. You didn't read his essay you dope. If you had you would have read his explanation as to how he was applying math and physics to analyzing economic systems and why it could be done in such a scientific manner. Einstein's 1949 essay is a scientific study of political ideologies.

You can't apply math and physics to economics, which shows what an economic ignoramus he was.

In case you don't remember, FDR prevented a shipload of Jews fleeing from Germany from landing on our shores.

Yeah, Dims are so concerned about immigrants.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Social programs have done nothing but harm this country.

Yeah, things like public education, public roads, social security, socialized healthcare can really ruin a country.

Which of the items do you think shouldn't be on the list?

This should be hilarious.

I said I'm not sure if we should be glad with some of those items on the list, not that they shouldn't be on it.

But just to humor you, automobile, television, cell phones, explosives, computers, robots....

The same things that brought you traffic jams, mindnumbing commercials, people texting instead of talking to each other, bombs, facebook, terminators (well, maybe in the future) and unemployment....

Is that really an improvement of the quality of life?

 

[The sheeple sea]

Yes, we all know that the government handed AT&T a monopoly. However, your theory that everyone wouldn't have obtained a telephone without that monopoly is idiotic. Telephone market penetration was proceeding at astounding rates before the monopoly was granted. There was absolutely no economic justification for it. It was all special pleading by crony capitalists. Nothing is more predictable than corporations asking the government to be granted a legal monopoly.

BTW, why shouldn't rural dwellers pay more than urban inhabitants? Don't you think consumers should pay based on what it costs to provide the service?

No, because it that were true the South still wouldn't have a power grid. It's why there's no cable TV where I live. They'd lose money to install the infrastructure, so they don't, and now never will. That's capitalism baby, love it. leave it, or regulate it, which is what we do, for reasons like the above...

Well, if you live in the boonies, why do you think you're entitled to cable TV? You won't get it because now there's satellite TV. If you want to live where things like cable TV cost a lot more to provide, then you can't complain when you can't get it. If you don't like it, move.

People living in the boonies have a connection to the power grid because the parents of kids living in the ghetto are being taxed to pay for it.

Yeah, that sounds fair.

What you object to is that under the free market people have to pay what things actually cost. In other words, you're a self-centered idiot who thinks other people should subsidize your lifestyle.

No one has "right to cable TV" or TV in general for that matter. If electricity costs more to get to you, you pay more for it. You know electricity is generally controlled by private companies right? Not a thing you mentioned made a lick of sense. See my earlier comment about sounding like an idiot.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Yes, we all know that the government handed AT&T a monopoly. However, your theory that everyone wouldn't have obtained a telephone without that monopoly is idiotic. Telephone market penetration was proceeding at astounding rates before the monopoly was granted. There was absolutely no economic justification for it. It was all special pleading by crony capitalists. Nothing is more predictable than corporations asking the government to be granted a legal monopoly.

BTW, why shouldn't rural dwellers pay more than urban inhabitants? Don't you think consumers should pay based on what it costs to provide the service?

No, because it that were true the South still wouldn't have a power grid. It's why there's no cable TV where I live. They'd lose money to install the infrastructure, so they don't, and now never will. That's capitalism baby, love it. leave it, or regulate it, which is what we do, for reasons like the above...

Well, if you live in the boonies, why do you think you're entitled to cable TV? You won't get it because now there's satellite TV. If you want to live where things like cable TV cost a lot more to provide, then you can't complain when you can't get it. If you don't like it, move.

People living in the boonies have a connection to the power grid because the parents of kids living in the ghetto are being taxed to pay for it.

Yeah, that sounds fair.

What you object to is that under the free market people have to pay what things actually cost. In other words, you're a self-centered idiot who thinks other people should subsidize your lifestyle.

No, what I acknowledge, what the state and federal governments acknowledge but you do not, is that capitalism, on its own, is not the answer to every question because that is not what capitalism was ever designed to be. The South has phones and power only because we used the power of the government to make it possible. It's the same with weapons programs that are Cost Plus. The profit is guaranteed by the government. If not then the government would have to build the weapons since the capitalists would not.

I don't have cable and I know why, capitalism can't make a buck getting it my way. That is capitalism at work and I don't mind since I know what I speak of. A capitalist may have invented the phone but it took the power of government to get one in every house. Fascist or not, sometimes that is the only option...

 

[Camp]

Yes, we all know that the government handed AT&T a monopoly. However, your theory that everyone wouldn't have obtained a telephone without that monopoly is idiotic. Telephone market penetration was proceeding at astounding rates before the monopoly was granted. There was absolutely no economic justification for it. It was all special pleading by crony capitalists. Nothing is more predictable than corporations asking the government to be granted a legal monopoly.

BTW, why shouldn't rural dwellers pay more than urban inhabitants? Don't you think consumers should pay based on what it costs to provide the service?

No, because it that were true the South still wouldn't have a power grid. It's why there's no cable TV where I live. They'd lose money to install the infrastructure, so they don't, and now never will. That's capitalism baby, love it. leave it, or regulate it, which is what we do, for reasons like the above...

People living in the boonies have a connection to the power grid because the parents of kids living in the ghetto are being taxed to pay for it.

Horse crap talking point propaganda. People in the boonies get on the power grid because the companies that are given monopolies to operate agree to provide power to the entire grid as part of the deal. That plus public resources and cost are used to operate the grid and make the operation feasible to start with. No public support and resources, no generation of power to the grid, hence no company can even exist.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

To accomplish the task at hand, to meet the requirements necessary to succeed and to achieve a return on their investment.

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Ok, you win

I give up

 

[The sheeple sea]

Most libraries and college book stores have booklets, defining, explaining, giving examples and histories of the various ideologies.

Most of it is Marxist propaganda.

All of the books? Why would college book stores sell them if not correct? Lordy lordy what will we do for the truth, you don't suppose you could be talked into telling America the real truth about all those ideologies? So what is socialism? Are there different types? Do all of them lead to communism?

Colleges these days are little more than government indoctrination centers. Any subject that is even remotely political is taught by Marxists.

Been to a college lately? Doubt it. Plenty of politics taught all over the spectrum by people all over the spectrum. People come out with an education and you call it indoctrination. That to me seems like the talk of an idiot.

Bullshit. They get Marxism shoved down their throats in every class. There are no conservatives in the sociology, anthropology or history departments, and very few in the economics departments. Numerous surveys have show this to be the case.

You're either an ignoramus or a bald faced liar.

Or I go to a college, and have a multitude of teachers and don't need your surveys. I ask again, have you BEEN to a college, or are you afraid of the midday Obama worshipped we are all forced into?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Most libraries and college book stores have booklets, defining, explaining, giving examples and histories of the various ideologies.

Most of it is Marxist propaganda.

All of the books? Why would college book stores sell them if not correct? Lordy lordy what will we do for the truth, you don't suppose you could be talked into telling America the real truth about all those ideologies? So what is socialism? Are there different types? Do all of them lead to communism?

Colleges these days are little more than government indoctrination centers. Any subject that is even remotely political is taught by Marxists.

Been to a college lately? Doubt it. Plenty of politics taught all over the spectrum by people all over the spectrum. People come out with an education and you call it indoctrination. That to me seems like the talk of an idiot.

Bullshit. They get Marxism shoved down their throats in every class. There are no conservatives in the sociology, anthropology or history departments, and very few in the economics departments. Numerous surveys have show this to be the case.

You're either an ignoramus or a bald faced liar.

Education is a Liberal value, not a Conservative one. We do Enlightenment, conservatives do Dark Ages.

 

[bripat9643]

Most of it is Marxist propaganda.

All of the books? Why would college book stores sell them if not correct? Lordy lordy what will we do for the truth, you don't suppose you could be talked into telling America the real truth about all those ideologies? So what is socialism? Are there different types? Do all of them lead to communism?

Colleges these days are little more than government indoctrination centers. Any subject that is even remotely political is taught by Marxists.

Been to a college lately? Doubt it. Plenty of politics taught all over the spectrum by people all over the spectrum. People come out with an education and you call it indoctrination. That to me seems like the talk of an idiot.

Bullshit. They get Marxism shoved down their throats in every class. There are no conservatives in the sociology, anthropology or history departments, and very few in the economics departments. Numerous surveys have show this to be the case.

You're either an ignoramus or a bald faced liar.

Or I go to a college, and have a multitude of teachers and don't need your surveys. I ask again, have you BEEN to a college, or are you afraid of the midday Obama worshipped we are all forced into?

SO we are supposed to accept your testimonial evidence? Apparently you haven't learned anything in college. When I went to college there were no conservative professors in the liberal arts or social sciences. None.

 

[Contumacious]

Most of it is Marxist propaganda.

All of the books? Why would college book stores sell them if not correct? Lordy lordy what will we do for the truth, you don't suppose you could be talked into telling America the real truth about all those ideologies? So what is socialism? Are there different types? Do all of them lead to communism?

Colleges these days are little more than government indoctrination centers. Any subject that is even remotely political is taught by Marxists.

Been to a college lately? Doubt it. Plenty of politics taught all over the spectrum by people all over the spectrum. People come out with an education and you call it indoctrination. That to me seems like the talk of an idiot.

Bullshit. They get Marxism shoved down their throats in every class. There are no conservatives in the sociology, anthropology or history departments, and very few in the economics departments. Numerous surveys have show this to be the case.

You're either an ignoramus or a bald faced liar.

Education is a Liberal value, not a Conservative one. We do Enlightenment, conservatives do Dark Ages.

WHAT IS SO ENLIGHTENING ABOUT FASCISM/SOCIALISM/TYRANNY?


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[BlackSand]

Ok, you win

I give up

Damn ... Are you sure you don't want me to go into how efficiency is a plus and waste is the enemy?

Get Back Here ...



Lolz
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[Camp]

Most libraries and college book stores have booklets, defining, explaining, giving examples and histories of the various ideologies.

Most of it is Marxist propaganda.

Even this guy was in on the global conspiracy. Obviously finger boy is more knowledgeable than this fella.

monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/

By the way, the guy wrote this back in 1949. That kind of blows away the "modern colleges" stupidity.

There used to be some conservatives in the social sciences prior to the 1960s. Now there are none.

As an economist, Einstein made a great physicist.

You are inferring that Einstein did not have the mental and intellectual abilities that you have. Einstein was not as bright as you when it came to economics. You didn't read his essay you dope. If you had you would have read his explanation as to how he was applying math and physics to analyzing economic systems and why it could be done in such a scientific manner. Einstein's 1949 essay is a scientific study of political ideologies.

You can't apply math and physics to economics, which shows what an economic ignoramus he was.

In case you don't remember, FDR prevented a shipload of Jews fleeing from Germany from landing on our shores.

Yeah, Dims are so concerned about immigrants.

Einstein was an "ignoramus" says the genius bripat.

 

[bripat9643]

When I went to college there were no conservative professors in the liberal arts or social sciences. None.

Really? How strange?

So, what turned you into a conservative zombie?

I'm too smart to be brainwashed by stooges on the government payroll. There are sources of information outside academia, you know.

 

[bripat9643]

Most of it is Marxist propaganda.

Even this guy was in on the global conspiracy. Obviously finger boy is more knowledgeable than this fella.

monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/

By the way, the guy wrote this back in 1949. That kind of blows away the "modern colleges" stupidity.

There used to be some conservatives in the social sciences prior to the 1960s. Now there are none.

As an economist, Einstein made a great physicist.

You are inferring that Einstein did not have the mental and intellectual abilities that you have. Einstein was not as bright as you when it came to economics. You didn't read his essay you dope. If you had you would have read his explanation as to how he was applying math and physics to analyzing economic systems and why it could be done in such a scientific manner. Einstein's 1949 essay is a scientific study of political ideologies.

You can't apply math and physics to economics, which shows what an economic ignoramus he was.

In case you don't remember, FDR prevented a shipload of Jews fleeing from Germany from landing on our shores.

Yeah, Dims are so concerned about immigrants.

Einstein was an "ignoramus" says the genius bripat.

He was a brilliant physicist. He didn't know jack shit about economics.