Will the world be more violent, the same or less under a President Trump?

[Faun]

I'm pretty sure the world will be more ticked off. After all, right now, Latinos are generally and widely pissed off at America or Mr. Obama. Fundamentalist Muslims are already pissed. They aren't liable to get any more pissed because it's not possible for them to be more angry. Anger and pregnancy are quite similar in that one either "is or isn't."

More violent is hard to predict.

LOL. The world was supposed to start singing cumbaya after Obama... how that work out? The ME is on fire, relations with Russia and China are at an all time low...

As for the Islamocrazies. Fuck 'em. They live in a perpetual state of hate. Trump will matter not.

Trump is so unhinged, his anger will lead him to drop a nuke on Rosie O'Donnell.

 

[320 Years of History]

I'm pretty sure the world will be more ticked off. After all, right now, Latinos are generally and widely pissed off at America or Mr. Obama. Fundamentalist Muslims are already pissed. They aren't liable to get any more pissed because it's not possible for them to be more angry. Anger and pregnancy are quite similar in that one either "is or isn't."

More violent is hard to predict.

LOL. The world was supposed to start singing cumbaya after Obama... how that work out? The ME is on fire, relations with Russia and China are at an all time low...

As for the Islamocrazies. Fuck 'em. They live in a perpetual state of hate. Trump will matter not.

Red:
You need to check your facts there.

• Can you say "Cold War?"
• Have forgotten when the U.S. had no trade with China? Why do you think Richard Nixon's visit to China was such a big deal?

Blue:
Said who? Show me the quotes/links to that effect.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I'm pretty sure the world will be more ticked off. After all, right now, Latinos are generally and widely pissed off at America or Mr. Obama. Fundamentalist Muslims are already pissed. They aren't liable to get any more pissed because it's not possible for them to be more angry. Anger and pregnancy are quite similar in that one either "is or isn't."

More violent is hard to predict.

LOL. The world was supposed to start singing cumbaya after Obama... how that work out? The ME is on fire, relations with Russia and China are at an all time low...

As for the Islamocrazies. Fuck 'em. They live in a perpetual state of hate. Trump will matter not.

Trump is so unhinged, his anger will lead him to drop a nuke on Rosie O'Donnell.

Meh, worse things could happen.

 

[Faun]

I'm pretty sure the world will be more ticked off. After all, right now, Latinos are generally and widely pissed off at America or Mr. Obama. Fundamentalist Muslims are already pissed. They aren't liable to get any more pissed because it's not possible for them to be more angry. Anger and pregnancy are quite similar in that one either "is or isn't."

More violent is hard to predict.

LOL. The world was supposed to start singing cumbaya after Obama... how that work out? The ME is on fire, relations with Russia and China are at an all time low...

As for the Islamocrazies. Fuck 'em. They live in a perpetual state of hate. Trump will matter not.

Trump is so unhinged, his anger will lead him to drop a nuke on Rosie O'Donnell.

Meh, worse things could happen.

Dropping one on Megan Kelly?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I'm pretty sure the world will be more ticked off. After all, right now, Latinos are generally and widely pissed off at America or Mr. Obama. Fundamentalist Muslims are already pissed. They aren't liable to get any more pissed because it's not possible for them to be more angry. Anger and pregnancy are quite similar in that one either "is or isn't."

More violent is hard to predict.

LOL. The world was supposed to start singing cumbaya after Obama... how that work out? The ME is on fire, relations with Russia and China are at an all time low...

As for the Islamocrazies. Fuck 'em. They live in a perpetual state of hate. Trump will matter not.

Trump is so unhinged, his anger will lead him to drop a nuke on Rosie O'Donnell.

Meh, worse things could happen.

Dropping one on Megan Kelly?

One what?

 

[Correll]

I'm pretty sure the world will be more ticked off. After all, right now, Latinos are generally and widely pissed off at America or Mr. Obama. Fundamentalist Muslims are already pissed. They aren't liable to get any more pissed because it's not possible for them to be more angry. Anger and pregnancy are quite similar in that one either "is or isn't."

More violent is hard to predict.

LOL. The world was supposed to start singing cumbaya after Obama... how that work out? The ME is on fire, relations with Russia and China are at an all time low...

As for the Islamocrazies. Fuck 'em. They live in a perpetual state of hate. Trump will matter not.

Remember the Reset button?

What morons.

 

[Correll]

That was pure panic mongering.

You know what is really dangerous?

We are treaty bound to go to war with the nation with the largest stockpile of nuclear weapons in the world, over tiny nations with large Russian minorities that border Russia.


That is madness.


You lefties use to call Reagan a reckless cowboy, much like you are panic mongering about Trump today, and he would have NEVER sent US forces into the Black Sea, or brought Estonia into NATO.



Trump is an old man who has a long history of harmless law abiding behavior.

Poor baby, you have my sympathies.

You are being a troll.

I responded seriously and honestly to your panic mongering and you were unable to challenge ONE of my points.

You were serious??

That was the Logical Fallacy of Appeal to Ridicule.


IF you spent half the time and energy you spend on dodging points on addressing them....



It would be obvious that you cannot honestly defend your positions.


Which is why lefties like you prefer Logical Fallacies and propaganda to real discussion.


You are supporting policies that you know are indefensible.

Like I said, you have my sympathies. The next 8 years are gonna be hard on you.

Hillary's lead is down to 3 points now.


Your lying confidence is just you being an ass.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I'm pretty sure the world will be more ticked off. After all, right now, Latinos are generally and widely pissed off at America or Mr. Obama. Fundamentalist Muslims are already pissed. They aren't liable to get any more pissed because it's not possible for them to be more angry. Anger and pregnancy are quite similar in that one either "is or isn't."

More violent is hard to predict.

LOL. The world was supposed to start singing cumbaya after Obama... how that work out? The ME is on fire, relations with Russia and China are at an all time low...

As for the Islamocrazies. Fuck 'em. They live in a perpetual state of hate. Trump will matter not.

Remember the Reset button?

What morons.

Oh yes.... what loons.

 

[Faun]

Poor baby, you have my sympathies.

You are being a troll.

I responded seriously and honestly to your panic mongering and you were unable to challenge ONE of my points.

You were serious??

That was the Logical Fallacy of Appeal to Ridicule.


IF you spent half the time and energy you spend on dodging points on addressing them....



It would be obvious that you cannot honestly defend your positions.


Which is why lefties like you prefer Logical Fallacies and propaganda to real discussion.


You are supporting policies that you know are indefensible.

Like I said, you have my sympathies. The next 8 years are gonna be hard on you.

Hillary's lead is down to 3 points now.


Your lying confidence is just you being an ass.

Yeah, I'm worried.

 

[Correll]

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You are being a troll.

I responded seriously and honestly to your panic mongering and you were unable to challenge ONE of my points.

You were serious??

That was the Logical Fallacy of Appeal to Ridicule.


IF you spent half the time and energy you spend on dodging points on addressing them....



It would be obvious that you cannot honestly defend your positions.


Which is why lefties like you prefer Logical Fallacies and propaganda to real discussion.


You are supporting policies that you know are indefensible.

Like I said, you have my sympathies. The next 8 years are gonna be hard on you.

Hillary's lead is down to 3 points now.


Your lying confidence is just you being an ass.

Yeah, I'm worried.

You are pretending that you see no difference from complete asshole confidence and "worried".


I refuse to believe that you are that stupid.


The gap is not large and it is closing.

For you to airily dismiss my well argued points, supposedly because there is no chance of Trump winning is not called for and is just you being a dishonest asshole.


You are a troll. You refuse to address the topic, but stick around to be an asshole.

 

[Faun]

[

You were serious??

That was the Logical Fallacy of Appeal to Ridicule.


IF you spent half the time and energy you spend on dodging points on addressing them....



It would be obvious that you cannot honestly defend your positions.


Which is why lefties like you prefer Logical Fallacies and propaganda to real discussion.


You are supporting policies that you know are indefensible.

Like I said, you have my sympathies. The next 8 years are gonna be hard on you.

Hillary's lead is down to 3 points now.


Your lying confidence is just you being an ass.

Yeah, I'm worried.

You are pretending that you see no difference from complete asshole confidence and "worried".


I refuse to believe that you are that stupid.


The gap is not large and it is closing.

For you to airily dismiss my well argued points, supposedly because there is no chance of Trump winning is not called for and is just you being a dishonest asshole.


You are a troll. You refuse to address the topic, but stick around to be an asshole.

I can believe you are stupid enough to not comprehend I am that confident in Hillary winning. Crazy Donald hasn't been up for more than a couple of days since he announced he's running. And national polls don't speak as loudly as state-by-state polling ...

 

[Correll]

[

That was the Logical Fallacy of Appeal to Ridicule.


IF you spent half the time and energy you spend on dodging points on addressing them....



It would be obvious that you cannot honestly defend your positions.


Which is why lefties like you prefer Logical Fallacies and propaganda to real discussion.


You are supporting policies that you know are indefensible.

Like I said, you have my sympathies. The next 8 years are gonna be hard on you.

Hillary's lead is down to 3 points now.


Your lying confidence is just you being an ass.

Yeah, I'm worried.

You are pretending that you see no difference from complete asshole confidence and "worried".


I refuse to believe that you are that stupid.


The gap is not large and it is closing.

For you to airily dismiss my well argued points, supposedly because there is no chance of Trump winning is not called for and is just you being a dishonest asshole.


You are a troll. You refuse to address the topic, but stick around to be an asshole.

I can believe you are stupid enough to not comprehend I am that confident in Hillary winning. Crazy Donald hasn't been up for more than a couple of days since he announced he's running. And national polls doesn't speak as loudly as state-by-state polling ...

If you are so confident that Trump won't win that you can't be bothered to discuss the issues, why are you in a thread on a discussion site about Trump's potential presidency?

Rhetorical question.

You are here to try to advance your agenda and make your case.

Except that I called you on your bullshit and now you are coming up with excuses to NOT discuss the issues.



And as the national average closes, those states will change.

You do understand that the parts make up the whole, thus changes in the whole are caused by changes in the parts?

 

[320 Years of History]

I'm pretty sure the world will be more ticked off. After all, right now, Latinos are generally and widely pissed off at America or Mr. Obama. Fundamentalist Muslims are already pissed. They aren't liable to get any more pissed because it's not possible for them to be more angry. Anger and pregnancy are quite similar in that one either "is or isn't."

More violent is hard to predict.

LOL. The world was supposed to start singing cumbaya after Obama... how that work out? The ME is on fire, relations with Russia and China are at an all time low...

As for the Islamocrazies. Fuck 'em. They live in a perpetual state of hate. Trump will matter not.

Trump is so unhinged, his anger will lead him to drop a nuke on Rosie O'Donnell.

Meh, worse things could happen.

Well, yes, but I'm hardly keen to choose Faun's or a worse outcome. Do you find one of those options acceptable? Dropping a nuke, anywhere? That works for you? Truly?

 

[320 Years of History]

[

That was the Logical Fallacy of Appeal to Ridicule.

IF you spent half the time and energy you spend on dodging points on addressing them....

It would be obvious that you cannot honestly defend your positions.

Which is why lefties like you prefer Logical Fallacies and propaganda to real discussion.

You are supporting policies that you know are indefensible.

Like I said, you have my sympathies. The next 8 years are gonna be hard on you.

Hillary's lead is down to 3 points now.

Your lying confidence is just you being an ass.

Yeah, I'm worried.

You are pretending that you see no difference from complete asshole confidence and "worried".

I refuse to believe that you are that stupid.

The gap is not large and it is closing.

For you to airily dismiss my well argued points, supposedly because there is no chance of Trump winning is not called for and is just you being a dishonest asshole.

You are a troll. You refuse to address the topic, but stick around to be an asshole.

I can believe you are stupid enough to not comprehend I am that confident in Hillary winning. Crazy Donald hasn't been up for more than a couple of days since he announced he's running. And national polls don't speak as loudly as state-by-state polling ...

That map plus the table here is all one needs to know about the GOP's immigration policy.

• Look at all the "red" states that will go "blue" if those 11M immigrants become citizens and thus legally able to vote. Several of the most reliably "red" states likely would not be any longer.
• Consider what happens now given that states count illegals when "redistricting" and apportioning.

 

[Faun]

[

Like I said, you have my sympathies. The next 8 years are gonna be hard on you.

Hillary's lead is down to 3 points now.


Your lying confidence is just you being an ass.

Yeah, I'm worried.

You are pretending that you see no difference from complete asshole confidence and "worried".


I refuse to believe that you are that stupid.


The gap is not large and it is closing.

For you to airily dismiss my well argued points, supposedly because there is no chance of Trump winning is not called for and is just you being a dishonest asshole.


You are a troll. You refuse to address the topic, but stick around to be an asshole.

I can believe you are stupid enough to not comprehend I am that confident in Hillary winning. Crazy Donald hasn't been up for more than a couple of days since he announced he's running. And national polls doesn't speak as loudly as state-by-state polling ...

If you are so confident that Trump won't win that you can't be bothered to discuss the issues, why are you in a thread on a discussion site about Trump's potential presidency?

Rhetorical question.

You are here to try to advance your agenda and make your case.

Except that I called you on your bullshit and now you are coming up with excuses to NOT discuss the issues.



And as the national average closes, those states will change.

You do understand that the parts make up the whole, thus changes in the whole are caused by changes in the parts?

Nah, I joined this thread quoting the next president's perspective on Crazy Donald's threat to peace. You chose naming calling as a rebuttal. You really do come off as quite insecure. But then, look at who you're supporting ... the next loser in a presidential race, so it's understandable.

Not to mention, you have absolutely no idea how silly you look crowing about how Hillary leads by only 3 points. Obama won the 2012 election by about 4 points nationally ... that translated into an electoral landslide.

And your nonsense the polls closing is worthless since Crazy Donald has spent this entire election season playing catch up with Hillary. Every time he catches up, he falls back down again. Viagra couldn't even help him deliver staying power.

 

[Wry Catcher]

When IED's become the norm in America, you might have a point to make.

Hell yeah!!! We should wait until they do become normal first, and then do something about it! Great Plan!!! Ur a jeenyus at this stuff! How is it you ain't President???

Gun violence in ChiTown is directly related to our archaic interpretation of the 2nd A.

It's directly related to criminal sociopath vermin being allowed to run loose with little chance of facing any consequences for their fun and games.

Refugees are running away from violence,

So let them have their own revolutions and resolve their own problems; the U.S. is not obligated to be a dumping ground for every failed state that comes along, or for taking in South America's unemployment issues. Most 'refugees' have plenty of other palces on the planet to go to, they just like it better here because of generous giveaways and being allowed to sit around on welfare indefinitely, that's all.

and a comprehensive immigration policy can vet and provided mentors/sponsors to those who enter our nation legally.

They can't be vetted properly, for one, and yes they can be sponsored by anybody who wants to sponsor them right now already, yet there aren't any takers. Why is that? !0's of millions of Democrats, and whole industries made owned by wealthy people, far more than enough to 'legalize'30 to 50 million 'refugees' and 'undocumented immigrants' within a couple of months, that sponsorship program has been around since forever, so why is it never used by all the alleged 'bleeding hearts' and assorted businessmen who are always whining all about what 'hard workers' they are and we need then n stuff? Have any genuine asnwers as to why that is besides standard fatuous dissembling and handwaves we get from other apologists?

The "knockout game" seems to have been a passing event,.

So we should pretend this popular 'game' never happened then ...

On point, however, Trumps rhetoric scapegoats minorities and they too can say, "Enough".

how is this 'scapegoating minorities'? Maybe 'minorities' should try abiding by the laws of the country they want to mooch off of and quit indulging in criminal acts, beginning with immigrating here legally. Yeah, I know, weird concept to to our more morally challenged denizens who are puzzled by that principle ...

Maybe that is why so many angry white guys support him, a chance to use their guns on those who respond to the hate, fear, bigotry and racism expoused by Trump.

Drivel.

As a rebuttal Picaro's post lacks substance, understanding, compassion and reason; it is a non sequitur, not responsive to the points made.

 

[320 Years of History]

When IED's become the norm in America, you might have a point to make.

Hell yeah!!! We should wait until they do become normal first, and then do something about it! Great Plan!!! Ur a jeenyus at this stuff! How is it you ain't President???

Gun violence in ChiTown is directly related to our archaic interpretation of the 2nd A.

It's directly related to criminal sociopath vermin being allowed to run loose with little chance of facing any consequences for their fun and games.

Refugees are running away from violence,

So let them have their own revolutions and resolve their own problems; the U.S. is not obligated to be a dumping ground for every failed state that comes along, or for taking in South America's unemployment issues. Most 'refugees' have plenty of other palces on the planet to go to, they just like it better here because of generous giveaways and being allowed to sit around on welfare indefinitely, that's all.

and a comprehensive immigration policy can vet and provided mentors/sponsors to those who enter our nation legally.

They can't be vetted properly, for one, and yes they can be sponsored by anybody who wants to sponsor them right now already, yet there aren't any takers. Why is that? !0's of millions of Democrats, and whole industries made owned by wealthy people, far more than enough to 'legalize'30 to 50 million 'refugees' and 'undocumented immigrants' within a couple of months, that sponsorship program has been around since forever, so why is it never used by all the alleged 'bleeding hearts' and assorted businessmen who are always whining all about what 'hard workers' they are and we need then n stuff? Have any genuine asnwers as to why that is besides standard fatuous dissembling and handwaves we get from other apologists?

The "knockout game" seems to have been a passing event,.

So we should pretend this popular 'game' never happened then ...

On point, however, Trumps rhetoric scapegoats minorities and they too can say, "Enough".

how is this 'scapegoating minorities'? Maybe 'minorities' should try abiding by the laws of the country they want to mooch off of and quit indulging in criminal acts, beginning with immigrating here legally. Yeah, I know, weird concept to to our more morally challenged denizens who are puzzled by that principle ...

Maybe that is why so many angry white guys support him, a chance to use their guns on those who respond to the hate, fear, bigotry and racism expoused by Trump.

Drivel.

As a rebuttal Picaro's post lacks substance, understanding, compassion and reason; it is a non sequitur, not responsive to the points made.

What is old is new again...or...Some things never change. LOL

 

[Wry Catcher]

My comment on IED's was greeted by Picaro in this manner:

"Hell yeah!!! We should wait until they do become normal first, and then do something about it! Great Plan!!! Ur a jeenyus at this stuff! How is it you ain't President???"

S/he may be too young to remember, but President Bush and Cheney, Rumsfeld and Powell should have anticipated IED's in Iraq, for when I was in the Service they were called Satchel Bombs and left on bicycles on the streets of Saigon. One more reason to remember why Iraq became a fiasco, a leadership which reacted with emotion not cool reasoning.

Keep this in mind when Election Day arrives, Trump is all about raising emotions, and HRC is all about rational discussions and planning for contingencies, something those with experience understand.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Will the world be more violent, the same or less under a President Trump?


My opinion: Trump very clearly has very little control of himself and is the kind of man that would probably get us into major wars with nations like china, India, Russia, Turkey, etc. Sure, the middle east has been violent but the world in general has been fairly peaceful under Obama but I don't expect that to remain so under Trump.

This is a man that handles everything with attack, attack and more attack. He'll probably tell the president of China to go fuck himself and have air craft carriers off the coast of china daring them to make a move.

Blatant panic mongering as directed by lib thought leaders.

Keep in mind this is a Matthew post.

That should help 'splain things.

 

[Faun]

... speaking of polls .... check this out ... so here's the current electoral map with no tossups ... Hillary leads comfortably , 340 to 198 ...

... now compare that map to the Obama/Romney map in September, 2012... and notice the trend line ... they were neck and neck in the national polling...

Hillary has a bigger lead now than Obama did then.