Winter Does Not Disprove Global Warming

The question that has remained unanswered, since 2009 for me, is

"Why are they stupid on purpose?"

Why do you assume that retards like these deniers are "stupid on purpose"? They start off retarded and very ignorant so they are naturally very gullible and easy to fool. This makes them easy meat for any propagandists who come along and tell them crackpot stories that fit in with their ignorant retarded picture of the world. The propagandists working for the fossil fuel industry did just that. So did the Republican Party, whose voter base is now mostly the bottom third of the intelligence spectrum.

Because I have had an opportunity to observe "stupid on purpose" up close and personal. I have experienced people literally create false memories because it was more convenient to remember it the way they liked it. I have observed people refuse to learn simply because they refused to have someone else tell them what to do. Being told to not start a fire in the kitchen was telling them what to do so they chose to start a fire again.

Because I've learned better. They choose to be "gullible" because they like the answer.

OK, I guess I would have to agree with you that there is a certain element of choice involved in gullibly falling for moronic bullshit, like the dogmas of the denier cult, because the bullshit is what you prefer to believe for political and/or economic motives, but the underlying deep retardation most of the deniers display still seems to be, in most cases, congenital, and so, essentially choiceless.
 
Why do you assume that retards like these deniers are "stupid on purpose"? They start off retarded and very ignorant so they are naturally very gullible and easy to fool. This makes them easy meat for any propagandists who come along and tell them crackpot stories that fit in with their ignorant retarded picture of the world. The propagandists working for the fossil fuel industry did just that. So did the Republican Party, whose voter base is now mostly the bottom third of the intelligence spectrum.

Because I have had an opportunity to observe "stupid on purpose" up close and personal. I have experienced people literally create false memories because it was more convenient to remember it the way they liked it. I have observed people refuse to learn simply because they refused to have someone else tell them what to do. Being told to not start a fire in the kitchen was telling them what to do so they chose to start a fire again.

Because I've learned better. They choose to be "gullible" because they like the answer.

OK, I guess I would have to agree with you that there is a certain element of choice involved in gullibly falling for moronic bullshit, like the dogmas of the denier cult, because the bullshit is what you prefer to believe for political and/or economic motives, but the underlying deep retardation most of the deniers display still seems to be, in most cases, congenital, and so, essentially choiceless.

It is a very difficult question, whether they are displaying a fundamental retardation, some characteristic of environmental influence, or simply the results of personal choice. It has been one of my long standing questions.

I have known people that were truly mentally retarded. And, the often show none of the attitudes of the intentionally stupid. Often, they understand that they are slow, try really hard not to be, and actually display character that is far more "intelligent" than the intentionally stupid.

How do we account for Donald Trump or Rush Limbaugh? They are not lacking in basic intelligence or education.

What is often true is high levels of adrenaline does cause some sort of targeted mental imparement. And I have noted that there seems to be a connection between an addiction to being hostile and these intentional stupid.

In the last decade, there have been a number of studies that highlight the definitive characteristics of these intentionally stupid, "anti-liberal", self identifying conservative or libertarian republicans.

What I see as the predominate characteristic is a sociopathy. The Republican/conservative-libertarian ideals is most attractive to sociopathic personalities. They choose to be ignorant because it yields them the justifications that they want to justify their sociopathic personality.

What I see, fundamentally, is an asymetery in their ideas and attitudes. They maintain ideas and attitudes for themselves that justifies their sociopathic behavior while expecting others to present behavior that is beneficial them. There is an asymetery in how they judge actions. When they do something, they have a good reason. If you do the exact same thing, it hurts their feeling. It should be fairly apparent in examining the likes of Donald Trump and Rush Limbaugh that morality suddenly become all important when it is applied to others behavior and in a way that benefits Trump and Rush. But, for some reason, it is completely ignored when the shoe is on the other foot.

I am sure you are right that that there tends to be a measurable tilt in the direction of stupidity as a group. But, in my best educated examination, this is secondary to the simpler fact of choice to be ignorant. The ignorance, the stupidity, though, seems to always fall on the side of the ideas that is in their favor.

It's almost as if there is a stupid pill and whenever the opportunity arises such that taking it will result in stupidity justifies what they want, they pop a couple of them.

And when it comes to ignorance, and I know you've seen it, somehow they manage to skirt away from stating their dozens of conflicting concepts in the same post. In fact, they often manage to avoid overtly stating the underlying bullshit assumptions that they make doing so would make it apparent exactly how dissingenuous they really are.

I just can't give them the benefit of what little doubt I may have had. The stupidity is to cleverly contrived.
 
The misuse of a single word in that last sentence puts the lie to the entirety of the rant preceding.

Yeah, cuz typos are so much more significant than actual
math and data.

The tpyos msut jsut divre a mroom lkie you fcikung carzy. Of cuosre tehy wluod bcusae you dnot hvae any autcal iedas to wrok wtih.

Unfortunately for you, you aren't capable of a thought requiring more than ten words.
 
The misuse of a single word in that last sentence puts the lie to the entirety of the rant preceding.



Hey Henry.....by the way.....welcome to the mental case ward. Good to have you aboard. Looks like Im forced to add you to the Domination Matrix in here......gets pretty damn fascinating in here. I always end up thinking when I leave this site, "Geez....hope they don't put any of these OCD's in charge of anything!!"
 
Good news for you liberals!

A major chain of coffee emporia has a new eco-friendly blend. No plants die to make it. It's entirely made from ground schist! You don't know schist? OK....it's a medium-grade metamorphic rock with moderate to large grains of mica flakes.

See, now nobody can say "You liberals don't know schist"!

Best part is the chain accepts your food stamp debit cards so you can easily fill yourself full of schist.

Think you need a little more? Check the mirror in the bog. If the lower half of each eyeball is brown but that above is some other color then you're still down about a quart and you still can suck down a little more to be safely full of schist.

If you run out of credit on that card then just turn fire up some Youtube Algore sermons and, before you know it, you'll be totally full of schist!
 
Because I have had an opportunity to observe "stupid on purpose" up close and personal. I have experienced people literally create false memories because it was more convenient to remember it the way they liked it. I have observed people refuse to learn simply because they refused to have someone else tell them what to do. Being told to not start a fire in the kitchen was telling them what to do so they chose to start a fire again.

Because I've learned better. They choose to be "gullible" because they like the answer.

OK, I guess I would have to agree with you that there is a certain element of choice involved in gullibly falling for moronic bullshit, like the dogmas of the denier cult, because the bullshit is what you prefer to believe for political and/or economic motives, but the underlying deep retardation most of the deniers display still seems to be, in most cases, congenital, and so, essentially choiceless.

It is a very difficult question, whether they are displaying a fundamental retardation, some characteristic of environmental influence, or simply the results of personal choice. It has been one of my long standing questions.

I have known people that were truly mentally retarded. And, the often show none of the attitudes of the intentionally stupid. Often, they understand that they are slow, try really hard not to be, and actually display character that is far more "intelligent" than the intentionally stupid.

How do we account for Donald Trump or Rush Limbaugh? They are not lacking in basic intelligence or education.

What is often true is high levels of adrenaline does cause some sort of targeted mental imparement. And I have noted that there seems to be a connection between an addiction to being hostile and these intentional stupid.

In the last decade, there have been a number of studies that highlight the definitive characteristics of these intentionally stupid, "anti-liberal", self identifying conservative or libertarian republicans.

What I see as the predominate characteristic is a sociopathy. The Republican/conservative-libertarian ideals is most attractive to sociopathic personalities. They choose to be ignorant because it yields them the justifications that they want to justify their sociopathic personality.

What I see, fundamentally, is an asymetery in their ideas and attitudes. They maintain ideas and attitudes for themselves that justifies their sociopathic behavior while expecting others to present behavior that is beneficial them. There is an asymetery in how they judge actions. When they do something, they have a good reason. If you do the exact same thing, it hurts their feeling. It should be fairly apparent in examining the likes of Donald Trump and Rush Limbaugh that morality suddenly become all important when it is applied to others behavior and in a way that benefits Trump and Rush. But, for some reason, it is completely ignored when the shoe is on the other foot.

I am sure you are right that that there tends to be a measurable tilt in the direction of stupidity as a group. But, in my best educated examination, this is secondary to the simpler fact of choice to be ignorant. The ignorance, the stupidity, though, seems to always fall on the side of the ideas that is in their favor.

It's almost as if there is a stupid pill and whenever the opportunity arises such that taking it will result in stupidity justifies what they want, they pop a couple of them.

And when it comes to ignorance, and I know you've seen it, somehow they manage to skirt away from stating their dozens of conflicting concepts in the same post. In fact, they often manage to avoid overtly stating the underlying bullshit assumptions that they make doing so would make it apparent exactly how dissingenuous they really are.

I just can't give them the benefit of what little doubt I may have had. The stupidity is to cleverly contrived.

Good point about the sociopathy endemic to the denier cultists and I can see how much that explains, but after your last exchange with the Huffer, wouldn't you agree that severe retardation just has to be part of the mix with many of them?

Of course, there is another aspect of this whole dance of AGW reality denial that we see them doing. There is good hard evidence that certain parts of the fossil fuel industry and certain billionaires in that industry, like the Koch brothers, have been funneling hundreds of millions of dollars into propaganda campaigns to confuse the public about the reality and dangers of global warming and its consequent climate changes, in order to try to protect their immense profit stream from the negative effects of the very necessary restrictions or taxes on carbon emissions. They support a wide variety of very partisan 'think tanks', 'institutions' and other front groups and propaganda outlets. They are also almost certainly paying internet trolls to push their propaganda on every possible Internet forum or message board and in the 'comments' section after online newspaper and magazine articles about AGW/CC. Some online publications have had to resort to banning the denier trolls because the constant spamming of the comments sections with already debunked denier cult myths and wacky pseudo-science was getting so out of hand. So, we have to consider the probability that some of the deniers who post so often, some of them on practically every live thread multiple times a day, are neither retarded nor taking "stupid pills" deliberately, but rather are, in fact, paid agents of disinformation here specifically to push the denier propaganda and waste the time of people like us who try to debunk their lies and pseudo-science. Possibly they are getting paid per post, which would explain the otherwise very strange behavior of the Huffer and the kookster and others, whose posts are so vacuous and yet so frequent. They would still, of course, be part of the sociopathic contingent of the denier cultists, even if they are getting paid (just accepting the job would be proof of that). That's just conjecture, given the anonymous nature of these forums, but something to consider when trying to figure out the very strange behavior of these deniers. So when you're trying to figure out whether they're retarded or just deliberately acting stupid out of sociopathic self interest, also consider the other possibility - paid troll.
 
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Henry, report to the internment camp at the Beech Grove Amtrak facility, on the west side of Indianapolis, Indiana. Your slot is 8 AM on 1/15/2014. Quote reference number BA881. Don't let them turn you away, demand to be admitted. Because I get points for a free tote bag if you do.

By the way, why are you babbling about censorship? You look back fondly on the days when Bush ordered scientists to censor their results. They refused to obey, being scientists don't like thugs. Hence another reason for their hostility towards most denialists.
 
See, Global Warming Hobbyists are out of the closet!

They openly demand censorship!

What's next, re-education camps for the infidels?

And the troll does his thing and makes another buck.

Well, I guess nobody's signing up for your censorship concept. Now let me propose a little something.

How about we ask that all posts concerning the Great Algore Fable be moved to The Religion and Ethics forum? After all, Global Warming is NOT a scientific concept; it's simply a matter of faith and idol (Algore) worship. Besides, some on the other side of the matter feel that it's all in the hands of God or Allah or Buddha....or maybe the Great Tortise on whose back the world is balanced.
 
See, Global Warming Hobbyists are out of the closet!

They openly demand censorship!

What's next, re-education camps for the infidels?

And the troll does his thing and makes another buck.

Well, I guess nobody's signing up for your censorship concept.
Actually the LA Times and Reddit are only the beginning. More and more reputable publications are considering banning the denier cult spamming and trolling.






How about we ask that all posts concerning the Great Algore Fable be moved to The Religion and Ethics forum? After all, Global Warming is NOT a scientific concept; it's simply a matter of faith and idol (Algore) worship. Besides, some on the other side of the matter feel that it's all in the hands of God or Allah or Buddha....or maybe the Great Tortise on whose back the world is balanced.

LOLOLOL.....relax, little retard, you've already proven that you're either insane or a paid troll getting paid by the post. You don't have to keep on proving it over and over again.

Oh, and BTW, perhaps you should contact these folks and explain your wackadoodle notions about how "Global Warming is NOT a scientific concept". I'm sure they could use a good laugh too.

The American Geophysical Union (AGU) statement, adopted by the society in 2003, revised in 2007, and revised and expanded in 2013, affirms that rising levels of greenhouse gases have caused and will continue to cause the global surface temperature to be warmer:
“Human activities are changing Earth’s climate. At the global level, atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping greenhouse gases have increased sharply since the Industrial Revolution. Fossil fuel burning dominates this increase. Human-caused increases in greenhouse gases are responsible for most of the observed global average surface warming of roughly 0.8°C (1.5°F) over the past 140 years. Because natural processes cannot quickly remove some of these gases (notably carbon dioxide) from the atmosphere, our past, present, and future emissions will influence the climate system for millennia. While important scientific uncertainties remain as to which particular impacts will be experienced where, no uncertainties are known that could make the impacts of climate change inconsequential. Furthermore, surprise outcomes, such as the unexpectedly rapid loss of Arctic summer sea ice, may entail even more dramatic changes than anticipated."


The American Meteorological Society (AMS) statement adopted by their council in 2012 concluded:
There is unequivocal evidence that Earth’s lower atmosphere, ocean, and land surface are warming; sea level is rising; and snow cover, mountain glaciers, and Arctic sea ice are shrinking. The dominant cause of the warming since the 1950s is human activities. This scientific finding is based on a large and persuasive body of research. The observed warming will be irreversible for many years into the future, and even larger temperature increases will occur as greenhouse gases continue to accumulate in the atmosphere. Avoiding this future warming will require a large and rapid reduction in global greenhouse gas emissions. The ongoing warming will increase risks and stresses to human societies, economies, ecosystems, and wildlife through the 21st century and beyond, making it imperative that society respond to a changing climate. To inform decisions on adaptation and mitigation, it is critical that we improve our understanding of the global climate system and our ability to project future climate through continued and improved monitoring and research. This is especially true for smaller (seasonal and regional) scales and weather and climate extremes, and for important hydroclimatic variables such as precipitation and water availability.

Technological, economic, and policy choices in the near future will determine the extent of future impacts of climate change. Science-based decisions are seldom made in a context of absolute certainty. National and international policy discussions should include consideration of the best ways to both adapt to and mitigate climate change. Mitigation will reduce the amount of future climate change and the risk of impacts that are potentially large and dangerous. At the same time, some continued climate change is inevitable, and policy responses should include adaptation to climate change. Prudence dictates extreme care in accounting for our relationship with the only planet known to be capable of sustaining human life.
(Source: Scientific opinion on climate change)
 
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And the troll does his thing and makes another buck.

Well, I guess nobody's signing up for your censorship concept.
Actually the LA Times and Reddit are only the beginning. More and more reputable publications are considering banning the denier cult spamming and trolling.






How about we ask that all posts concerning the Great Algore Fable be moved to The Religion and Ethics forum? After all, Global Warming is NOT a scientific concept; it's simply a matter of faith and idol (Algore) worship. Besides, some on the other side of the matter feel that it's all in the hands of God or Allah or Buddha....or maybe the Great Tortise on whose back the world is balanced.

LOLOLOL.....relax, little retard, you've already proven that you're either insane or a paid troll getting paid by the post. You don't have to keep on proving it over and over again.

Oh, and BTW, perhaps you should contact these folks and explain your wackadoodle notions about how "Global Warming is NOT a scientific concept". I'm sure they could use a good laugh too.

The American Geophysical Union (AGU) statement, adopted by the society in 2003, revised in 2007, and revised and expanded in 2013, affirms that rising levels of greenhouse gases have caused and will continue to cause the global surface temperature to be warmer:
“Human activities are changing Earth’s climate. At the global level, atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping greenhouse gases have increased sharply since the Industrial Revolution. Fossil fuel burning dominates this increase. Human-caused increases in greenhouse gases are responsible for most of the observed global average surface warming of roughly 0.8°C (1.5°F) over the past 140 years. Because natural processes cannot quickly remove some of these gases (notably carbon dioxide) from the atmosphere, our past, present, and future emissions will influence the climate system for millennia. While important scientific uncertainties remain as to which particular impacts will be experienced where, no uncertainties are known that could make the impacts of climate change inconsequential. Furthermore, surprise outcomes, such as the unexpectedly rapid loss of Arctic summer sea ice, may entail even more dramatic changes than anticipated."


The American Meteorological Society (AMS) statement adopted by their council in 2012 concluded:
There is unequivocal evidence that Earth’s lower atmosphere, ocean, and land surface are warming; sea level is rising; and snow cover, mountain glaciers, and Arctic sea ice are shrinking. The dominant cause of the warming since the 1950s is human activities. This scientific finding is based on a large and persuasive body of research. The observed warming will be irreversible for many years into the future, and even larger temperature increases will occur as greenhouse gases continue to accumulate in the atmosphere. Avoiding this future warming will require a large and rapid reduction in global greenhouse gas emissions. The ongoing warming will increase risks and stresses to human societies, economies, ecosystems, and wildlife through the 21st century and beyond, making it imperative that society respond to a changing climate. To inform decisions on adaptation and mitigation, it is critical that we improve our understanding of the global climate system and our ability to project future climate through continued and improved monitoring and research. This is especially true for smaller (seasonal and regional) scales and weather and climate extremes, and for important hydroclimatic variables such as precipitation and water availability.

Technological, economic, and policy choices in the near future will determine the extent of future impacts of climate change. Science-based decisions are seldom made in a context of absolute certainty. National and international policy discussions should include consideration of the best ways to both adapt to and mitigate climate change. Mitigation will reduce the amount of future climate change and the risk of impacts that are potentially large and dangerous. At the same time, some continued climate change is inevitable, and policy responses should include adaptation to climate change. Prudence dictates extreme care in accounting for our relationship with the only planet known to be capable of sustaining human life.
(Source: Scientific opinion on climate change)






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Internet science debates are gay. "Consensus" science is making zero impact in the real world ( see Obama EIA link above ). Im fine being the forum cultist delusional "retard".:2up:



But Im winning!!!:rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:




 
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thanks for proving science is far superior to crazy right wing internets tube crawling cockroach level brain trusts as yourself skoooo
 

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