Wisconsin Appeals Court upholds voter ID law.

[Locke11_21]

The 4th District Court of Appeals reversed the decision of left-wing activist Dane County Circuit Judge, Richard Niess who ruled voter ID is unconstiutional. The case stems from a lawsuit the League of Marxist Women Voters filed challenging the mandate. The league argued the law violates the Wisconsin Constitution's explicit language on every person's right to vote. Dane County Circuit Judge Richard Niess sided with the league in March 2012, ruling the requirement would disenfranchise voters who lack the resources to obtain photo identification.

If someone is too dumb to have the resources to obtain ID, then they are too dumb to vote. While this ruling in WI is a victory, there are challenges at federal court levels. Democrats will stop at nothing to eliminate voter ID, they need their best ally in elections, voter fraud.


Appeals court upholds voter ID law | Local News - Home

 

[Clementine]

I don't believe for a second that a lot of people lack resources to obtain photo identification. Either people are working or are on some kind of government assistance and they would need a photo ID to get that. If people are able to register to vote and get out to the polls, then acquiring a simple ID should be no big deal. Everyone will have to get a card for Obamacare, won't we? How will that be any more or less difficult than a simple ID?

I do think there is a lot of fraud. When some look into it, it's not difficult to find. Like Obama getting more than 100% of votes in certain places. The media has pretty much left this issue alone.

There has to be some means of verifying registrations and there is no good argument for not protecting our right to vote. While the liberals claim people are disenfranchised if they have to show ID, I say that legitimate voters are disenfranchised when an illegal vote cancels theirs out.

 

[Chris]

Jim Crow lives!

 

[Chris]

In a 2009 study in Indiana, Professors Matt Barreto, Stephen Nuño, and Gabriel Sanchez found that election restrictions like voter ID laws have the greatest impact on the elderly, racial and ethnic minorities, immigrants, those with less educational attainment and lower incomes. The professors found that of the citizen adult population, 81.4% of all white eligible adults had access to a driver’s license, whereas only 55.2% of black eligible adults had the same access. Indeed, study after study has similarly concluded that burdens to voting have a large and disparate impact on individuals with fewer resources, less education, and smaller social networks.

 

[OriginalShroom]

Bull.

Everyone has access to getting a State Issued ID of some kind.

It's a matter of wanting to get it.

And for that .0001% who were born before birth certificates were common.. It's easy enough to give them an ID if they don't have one.

 

[Chris]

Since the 2010 election, Republicans have waged an unprecedented war on voting, with the unspoken but unmistakable goal of preventing millions of mostly Democratic voters, including students, minorities, immigrants, and the elderly, from casting ballots in 2012. More than a dozen states, from Texas to Wisconsin and Florida, have passed laws designed to impede voters at every step of the electoral process, whether by requiring birth certificates to register to vote, restricting voter registration drives, curtailing early voting, or requiring government-issued IDs to cast a ballot.

 

[OriginalShroom]

I guess it's time to break this article out again..

Note that it is from 2004 and from Slate...

Cracking down on people who vote twice. - Slate Magazine

Maybe Joe Moschella thought he was playing it safe. The 59-year-old retired transit employee had mailed his absentee ballot too late, he thought, so on Election Day 2000, he trotted down to the polls and voted in person. The only problem was that his polling place is in Staten Island, where he lives, while the absentee ballot went to Florida, where he winters.

This August, Moschella's name came up in a sweep of voter registration records by the New York Daily News, which found that he and 46,000 other New Yorkers were registered to vote in both Florida and New York. Moschella also had the bad luck to answer the phone when the News reporter, Russ Buettner, called. So, his name appeared in the paper's Aug. 21 story revealing that in the 2000 election between 400 and 1,000 of these double-registrants voted in both states.

Other investigations revealed similar results elsewhere. The Orlando Sentinel found that 68,000 Florida voters are also registered in Georgia or North Carolina (the only two states it checked), 1,650 of whom voted twice in 2000 or 2002. The Kansas City Star discovered 300 "potential" cases of individual voter fraud, including Kansans voting in Missouri and St. Louisans voting in both the city and the surrounding suburbs. "I probably shouldn't have voted in Kansas," a Kansas City businesswoman named Lorraine Goodrich told the paper, owning up to the offense. "That was a mistake. Whoops! Oh my God, I'm going to get in so much trouble, aren't I?"

Like, so much trouble. Intentionally voting more than once in a federal election is a third-degree felony in most states and probably also violates federal election-fraud laws. The punishment varies from state to state but is usually up to five or 10 years in jail and fine of up to $5,000 or $10,000.

Even so, in a country where presidential election turnout hovers around 50 percent, voting twice has generally been one of those "why bother?" crimes that are rarely prosecuted. A couple of years ago, the Republican National Committee compiled a list of 3,273 Democrats who had supposedly voted twice. Most states disregarded the data.

Few people get convicted of the offense, and their stories tend to be pretty entertaining. Adell Hardiman, a 51-year-old Missouri plumbing contractor, was convicted of voting in both Kansas City and nearby Blue Springs, where he owns a home. He registered openly in both places, using the same name and Social Security number. He got a suspended jail sentence. "If it was wrong to vote twice, why didn't they tell me that?" he asked the Star, pricelessly.

In another case uncovered by the Star, insurance investigator Glenn R. Jourdon was found to have signed poll books in two counties in the 2002 elections. "I'd almost say I don't know how I possibly could have done it," said Jourdon, in a fairly typical excuse offered. "But there's no telling."

After the Florida debacle of 2000, however, the good old days of getting away with voting twice (or even joking about it at dinner parties, as the film director John Waters has done) have ended. This year's double-voting investigations are already under way. In Galveston, Texas, the local district attorney is looking into six people who cast ballots twice in early voting. Right-wing bloggers, especially the bilious freerepublic.org, have been on fire since the Daily News story, since 68 percent of the News' double-registrants were Democrats, and Florida and New York officials—embarrassed by the newspapers' revelations—have been playing catch-up.

After the Daily News story appeared, Florida's Secretary of State Glenda Hood fired off a letter to the FBI, saying Moschella's case "warrants immediate attention on the part of federal officials." The state attorney for Brevard County is also investigating him. "We believe that immediate and decisive action on the federal level is necessary to send a strong message that this type of illegal behavior and manipulation of the electoral franchise will not be tolerated," Hood wrote. "I did not do anything wrong," Moschella insists. (No charges have yet been filed, according to a spokeswoman for Brevard County state attorney Norman Wolfinger.)

It's pretty easy to be registered in two places, even if you don't own a second home like Adell Hardiman or filmmaker Michael Moore, who's registered in both New York and his native Michigan, where he has a lakefront house, according to the Smoking Gun. When you move and change registration, in most states, you're supposed to give the address or county where you were previously registered. That notification, in turn, is supposed to trigger a cancellation of your former registration. But not every state bothers to report the new registration.

 

[Clementine]

In a 2009 study in Indiana, Professors Matt Barreto, Stephen Nuño, and Gabriel Sanchez found that election restrictions like voter ID laws have the greatest impact on the elderly, racial and ethnic minorities, immigrants, those with less educational attainment and lower incomes. The professors found that of the citizen adult population, 81.4% of all white eligible adults had access to a driver’s license, whereas only 55.2% of black eligible adults had the same access. Indeed, study after study has similarly concluded that burdens to voting have a large and disparate impact on individuals with fewer resources, less education, and smaller social networks.

We all have the same access. It's not like the DMV comes to white people's houses and delivers photo ID cards. I'm sure ACORN could volunteer to help people get to the nearest DMV the same way they help them get to the nearest poll on election day. For those sending in absentee ballots, a valid social security number and correct address should be enough.

I don't believe that study. Funny when people have an agenda, they can do a study and it always has the conclusion they seek.

 

[Jroc]

Jim Crow lives!

Yeah in Obama and holder's IRS voter suppression is their specialty

 

[Chris]

Republicans have only won the popular presidential vote one time in the last 20 years.....2004.

So the only way Republicans can win is for the Supreme Court to change the rules on campaign contributions allowing billionaire donors to give hundreds of millions of dollars and then have the states illegally block people's right to vote.

 

[Black_Label]

Let alone having an ID card, why won't the gun nutcases allow a simple background check to get a gun? Oh yeah,......

 

[S.J.]

You mean college students in Milwaukee won't be able to vote 6 or 7 times for the Democrat like they did in 2,000?

 

[freedombecki]

Jim Crow lives!

Not at all. Thug voter fraud is on its way out. I so tawwy for you poor, misunderstood Democrats' failure to get something for nothing in Wisconsin.

 

[blastoff]

Just everyone sit tight. Truthmatters will be along shortly to straighten this whole mess out.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

In a 2009 study in Indiana, Professors Matt Barreto, Stephen Nuño, and Gabriel Sanchez found that election restrictions like voter ID laws have the greatest impact on the elderly, racial and ethnic minorities, immigrants, those with less educational attainment and lower incomes. The professors found that of the citizen adult population, 81.4% of all white eligible adults had access to a driver’s license, whereas only 55.2% of black eligible adults had the same access. Indeed, study after study has similarly concluded that burdens to voting have a large and disparate impact on individuals with fewer resources, less education, and smaller social networks.

What do you have against one man, one vote?

Why should people with less education and fewer dollars be exempt from that notion?

Couldn't issuance of a voter ID be part of the registration process?

 

[WorldWatcher]

In a 2009 study in Indiana, Professors Matt Barreto, Stephen Nuño, and Gabriel Sanchez found that election restrictions like voter ID laws have the greatest impact on the elderly, racial and ethnic minorities, immigrants, those with less educational attainment and lower incomes. The professors found that of the citizen adult population, 81.4% of all white eligible adults had access to a driver’s license, whereas only 55.2% of black eligible adults had the same access. Indeed, study after study has similarly concluded that burdens to voting have a large and disparate impact on individuals with fewer resources, less education, and smaller social networks.

100% of those 55.2% of black eligible voters have the same access to getting a Drivers Licnese or State Issued ID. They take their documents and get an ID (a drivers license or a photo ID).

Wisconsin will even give you a Voter ID for FREE.


Obtaining an ID card - Wisconsin Department of Transportation



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[Crackerjaxon]

Republicans have only won the popular presidential vote one time in the last 20 years.....2004.

So the only way Republicans can win is for the Supreme Court to change the rules on campaign contributions allowing billionaire donors to give hundreds of millions of dollars and then have the states illegally block people's right to vote.

Thank God Illinois, California and New York have exactly the same sway in the electoral process as Montana, Mississippi and West Virginia.

Oddly, the branch of government based on population density, the House of Representatives, remains staunchly republican.

Go figure.

 

[editec]

Voter ID is no affront to democracy.

The DNC are fucking morons for objecting to it.

 

[Clementine]

In a 2009 study in Indiana, Professors Matt Barreto, Stephen Nuño, and Gabriel Sanchez found that election restrictions like voter ID laws have the greatest impact on the elderly, racial and ethnic minorities, immigrants, those with less educational attainment and lower incomes. The professors found that of the citizen adult population, 81.4% of all white eligible adults had access to a driver’s license, whereas only 55.2% of black eligible adults had the same access. Indeed, study after study has similarly concluded that burdens to voting have a large and disparate impact on individuals with fewer resources, less education, and smaller social networks.

What do you have against one man, one vote?

Why should people with less education and fewer dollars be exempt from that notion?

Couldn't issuance of a voter ID be part of the registration process?

It should be. Each of us legal citizens have birth certificates and social security cards to prove our identity.

 

[Freewill]

The 4th District Court of Appeals reversed the decision of left-wing activist Dane County Circuit Judge, Richard Niess who ruled voter ID is unconstiutional. The case stems from a lawsuit the League of Marxist Women Voters filed challenging the mandate. The league argued the law violates the Wisconsin Constitution's explicit language on every person's right to vote. Dane County Circuit Judge Richard Niess sided with the league in March 2012, ruling the requirement would disenfranchise voters who lack the resources to obtain photo identification.

If someone is too dumb to have the resources to obtain ID, then they are too dumb to vote. While this ruling in WI is a victory, there are challenges at federal court levels. Democrats will stop at nothing to eliminate voter ID, they need their best ally in elections, voter fraud.


Appeals court upholds voter ID law | Local News - Home

The liberals will screech that this is somehow someway voter disenfrantisement. In my state they sell you a fishing license, A FISHING LICENSE, and when they do they say you would be wise to have PHOTO ID with you in case stopped by a ranger. And they do stop people with the expectation of having a photo id. YET something much more important then fishing we don't need photo id. Simply amazing.