With Trump and Sanders Win, Are We Seeing a Full Scale Revolt in America?

[Gracie]

Hillary has way too much shit that has come to light over the past 8 years. She will never make it.

 

[Missourian]

I don't closely follow the Democrat side of the equation, but on the Republican side, this started a long time ago. The Anyone But Romney in 2012 was a challenge to the establishment, Cantors defeat in the Republican Primary 2014, and Boehners removal as Speaker are just a few of the precursors I can think of off the top of my head.

 

[S.J.]

Yes, we're seeing a revolt. Democrats and liberal Republicans are going down this time.

 

[DarkFury]

Yes, we're seeing a revolt. Democrats and liberal Republicans are going down this time.

And socialists are kicking the crap out of democrats. Reagan would be rolling on the floor laughing. And somewhere in hell even Nixon is smiling.

 

[DarkFury]

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You can remove all your Sanders and install Hillary Clintons name there. New Hampshire was Bernie Sanders last Hurrah. Hillary Clinton has got a firewall in the South, and as this race moves into the midwest she will win every single state.

Donald Trump will lose to Hillary Clinton in the General Election. In fact Trump's only hope to win the White House is a Bernie Sanders nominee. Because Mickey Mouse could beat Bernie Sanders.

 

[Billy000]

"With Trump and Sanders Win, Are We Seeing a Full Scale Revolt in America?"

No.

NH is not 'representative' of all of America.

We're seeing an irrelevant primary in an irrelevant state, whose election results will be forgotten by the end of March – the democratic primary in particular, given Sanders is from Vermont.

Neither Trump nor Sanders will be their respective party's nominee.

We certainly can't be sure these two will face off, but why are you so confident they won't?

 

[JimBowie1958]

I think you're seeing angry, ignorant people on the left wing, and angry, ignorant people on the right. That's what you saw in the New Hampshire vote.

The candidates that they support Bernie Sanders/Donald Trump don't have solutions to this countries problems, they just stoke the fire of anger.

On CNN--the least important issue on these voters minds tonight was electability. They didn't care if Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump could win the White House, they wanted to make a statement.

Will Democrats and Republicans wake up tomorrow and change course? Probably--because ultimately all the ranting and raving in the world isn't going to cut it, if you nominate a candidate that can't win the White House.

Electability is a bullshit issue. I remember when the GOP Establishment kept Reagan down with that electability argument, 'Dont vote for Reagan unless you want a Democrat in the white House.'

And it was total 100% bullshit as Reagan won in landslides TWICE.

It is bullshit now too, especially if BOTH Sanders and Trump win.

What will happen then smart guy, they both lose to mayor Bloomberg? roflmao

 

[JimBowie1958]

"With Trump and Sanders Win, Are We Seeing a Full Scale Revolt in America?"

No.

NH is not 'representative' of all of America.

We're seeing an irrelevant primary in an irrelevant state, whose election results will be forgotten by the end of March – the democratic primary in particular, given Sanders is from Vermont.

Neither Trump nor Sanders will be their respective party's nominee.

We certainly can't be sure these two will face off, but why are you so confident they won't?

That is what the black Magic 8 Ball tells him he has hidden in his colon.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Does anyone seriously believe Sanders is going to win in states such as Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Oklahoma, or Texas –

Yes, dude, I think he will win about half of them.

And Trump is leading in all those polls though Cruz' ground game still poses a threat to him in every state. The establishment candidates are doomed because people are sick to death of their bullshit, just like you are the epitome of it all; arrogant, bloviating and so full of shit you could sell fertilizer across s state lines and make a mint.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You can remove all your Sanders and install Hillary Clintons name there. New Hampshire was Bernie Sanders last Hurrah. Hillary Clinton has got a firewall in the South, and as this race moves into the midwest she will win every single state.

Donald Trump will lose to Hillary Clinton in the General Election. In fact Trump's only hope to win the White House is a Bernie Sanders nominee. Because Mickey Mouse could beat Bernie Sanders.

That is a strange conclusion since Sanders does better against every GOP nominee than Hillary does.

Sanders won across the board in EVERY DEMOGRAPHIC.

While I think he will have an uphill battle in Southern 'Clinton territory' he will pull out from half to a third of those states, IMO. Then when it goes back up north he wins all of them as well as most of the West too.

See the real story here is that the American people are so fed up with Wall Street and the corporations fucking us over we would rather have socialists in charge than to continue things the way they are. The corporations have been THAT greedy since 1973.

 

[LoneLaugher]

No.

 

[JimBowie1958]

No.

No what? No you didnt change your Depends this morning?

 

[Mac1958]

I am kinda leaning this way too. Burn the fuckers down and dance on their ashes, lol....

It really is an amazing time. And to answer the question, I hope so, mostly. But I suspect the Democrats will walk out this with a more "establishment" candidate, either Hillary or Biden. The GOP, holy crap, who knows.

I've been told by multiple Trump supporters here that they would accept compromises from Trump IF the conservative issues on which he won were actually carried out. In this bizarro political climate, that's actually refreshing news. That, in itself, is something of a revolution.
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[LoneLaugher]

No.

No what? No you didnt change your Depends this morning?

No. We are not seeing a full scale revolt in America.

Sanders is slightly left of center and Trump is ideologically empty.

Those people....you included......who think that the same thing that attracts idiots to Trump is drawing people to Sanders.....are simply denying reality.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

There is no 'revolt' on any 'scale.'

A few thousand voters hardly representative of the Nation as a whole in a backwater state does not a 'revolt' make.

 

[imawhosure]

No.

No what? No you didnt change your Depends this morning?

I am kinda leaning this way too. Burn the fuckers down and dance on their ashes, lol....

It really is an amazing time. And to answer the question, I hope so, mostly. But I suspect the Democrats will walk out this with a more "establishment" candidate, either Hillary or Biden. The GOP, holy crap, who knows.

I've been told by multiple Trump supporters here that they would accept compromises from Trump IF the conservative issues on which he won were actually carried out. In this bizarro political climate, that's actually refreshing news. That, in itself, is something of a revolution.
.

Here it is----------> By basic math, the only way you get a Republican establishment candidate is if Trump and Cruz stay in the race. If one drops, the other gets the nomination, unless their supporters and those of Carson and Fiorina switch to the establishment side. Now, NH doesn't show this, but virtually every other state does. Trump has big support, Cruz has big support, it is just they are splitting that specific KIND of support. Put them together because one drops, and it is over! By the way, they both know this in case you were wondering.

The establishment wing of the Repubs will soon start to put pressure on any establishment candidate it can to drop in hopes of getting one of theirs enough votes to steal a few states, and they are praying to whomever their God is, that Trump and Cruz stick around together long enough to cut each others throats. It is called politics, and that is how it really works in the primaries, lol.

Democrats? If the DNC LETS Hillary stick around, she will be the nominee. Why? Bern has few dollars compared to her, and he has no ground game. Mrs. Clinton, unless the Bern has something on those tapes that a really bad when she was addressing Wall Street firms.......can basically bury the Bern anytime she wishes by going negative in her campaign advertising. She doesn't want to, because she would be admitting what some of her ideas really are, forcing her to lose some of her talking points in the general election; but a salvo of negative advertising about him being a Socialist, wanting to run the country another 20 trillion in debt, why did we need to defeat the "Evil Empire" if we were just going to elect one of them, and he took his honeymoon in the USSR because of his love for Marxism, would end the campaign on the DNC side within 2 weeks.

On another note, did you see Hillary DID shake up her campaign staff? That shake up wasn't for the primary, it was for the general. She is not generating enthusiasm, and the supposed female factor is not working at all. She has to convince the DNC that she can win the general BEFORE they let her get the nomination, lol. So far, is she is doing miserably. Check what people are saying at the exit polls about why they voted for whom. She isn't number one in ANYTHING of the top 5 reasons. How do you win a general election like that? Truthful answer? You DON'T!

I still expect someone to be brought off the bench, and Hilly to suspend her campaign for some non-political reason. (aka, excuse) Time will tell, but if she is the nominee GOPers, start licking your chops! It is not about the coalition she has, it is the way it looks, they aren't coming to cast a vote-)

 

[JoeB131]

I don't think we are seeing a revolt. I think we are seeing New Hampshire once again taking advantage of their early status to do something crazy.

Trump has an advantage because Most Americans can't tell you the difference between Keynesian and Supply Side economics, most Americans can't name their senators, but they can sure as hell tell you who was on American Idol or Survivor or The Bachelor.

Bernie has the advantage of being from a neighboring state.

Now, these two could be the nominees of their party. If that happens, watch for Bloomberg to hop in.

 

[Mac1958]

No.

No what? No you didnt change your Depends this morning?

I am kinda leaning this way too. Burn the fuckers down and dance on their ashes, lol....

It really is an amazing time. And to answer the question, I hope so, mostly. But I suspect the Democrats will walk out this with a more "establishment" candidate, either Hillary or Biden. The GOP, holy crap, who knows.

I've been told by multiple Trump supporters here that they would accept compromises from Trump IF the conservative issues on which he won were actually carried out. In this bizarro political climate, that's actually refreshing news. That, in itself, is something of a revolution.
.

Here it is----------> By basic math, the only way you get a Republican establishment candidate is if Trump and Cruz stay in the race. If one drops, the other gets the nomination, unless their supporters and those of Carson and Fiorina switch to the establishment side. Now, NH doesn't show this, but virtually every other state does. Trump has big support, Cruz has big support, it is just they are splitting that specific KIND of support. Put them together because one drops, and it is over! By the way, they both know this in case you were wondering.

The establishment wing of the Repubs will soon start to put pressure on any establishment candidate it can to drop in hopes of getting one of theirs enough votes to steal a few states, and they are praying to whomever their God is, that Trump and Cruz stick around together long enough to cut each others throats. It is called politics, and that is how it really works in the primaries, lol.

Democrats? If the DNC LETS Hillary stick around, she will be the nominee. Why? Bern has few dollars compared to her, and he has no ground game. Mrs. Clinton, unless the Bern has something on those tapes that a really bad when she was addressing Wall Street firms.......can basically bury the Bern anytime she wishes by going negative in her campaign advertising. She doesn't want to, because she would be admitting what some of her ideas really are, forcing her to lose some of her talking points in the general election; but a salvo of negative advertising about him being a Socialist, wanting to run the country another 20 trillion in debt, why did we need to defeat the "Evil Empire" if we were just going to elect one of them, and he took his honeymoon in the USSR because of his love for Marxism, would end the campaign on the DNC side within 2 weeks.

On another note, did you see Hillary DID shake up her campaign staff? That shake up wasn't for the primary, it was for the general. She is not generating enthusiasm, and the supposed female factor is not working at all. She has to convince the DNC that she can win the general BEFORE they let her get the nomination, lol. So far, is she is doing miserably. Check what people are saying at the exit polls about why they voted for whom. She isn't number one in ANYTHING of the top 5 reasons. How do you win a general election like that? Truthful answer? You DON'T!

I still expect someone to be brought off the bench, and Hilly to suspend her campaign for some non-political reason. (aka, excuse) Time will tell, but if she is the nominee GOPers, start licking your chops! It is not about the coalition she has, it is the way it looks, they aren't coming to cast a vote-)

Good stuff. Trump and Cruz do seem to be joined at the hip somewhat, as the anti-establishment candidates. So yeah, as long as they're both in there it leaves a third lane for an establishment guy to gain some momentum. Maybe Kasich.

I have seen some articles on the implosion of Hillary's campaign, but I still doubt it. If it did happen, no doubt pressure on Biden builds quickly and he could easily jump in.
.

 

[imawhosure]

I don't think we are seeing a revolt. I think we are seeing New Hampshire once again taking advantage of their early status to do something crazy.

Trump has an advantage because Most Americans can't tell you the difference between Keynesian and Supply Side economics, most Americans can't name their senators, but they can sure as hell tell you who was on American Idol or Survivor or The Bachelor.

Bernie has the advantage of being from a neighboring state.

Now, these two could be the nominees of their party. If that happens, watch for Bloomberg to hop in.

You know Joe, at one time I agreed with you that the reason for "The Bern" doing so well there was because he was from a neighboring state. Some of it still may be true, but the facts say that in NH, at one time AFTER Bernie threw his hat in the ring, she had a 40 point lead over him and Omalley.

So yes, maybe he won by what 20 points or so, and the neighbor effect did add to it somewhat, but any more than 5 points would be kind of stretching it I think.

Still think Hilly is in the drivers seat, but without more enthusiasm the DNC may very well change drivers.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I don't think we are seeing a revolt. I think we are seeing New Hampshire once again taking advantage of their early status to do something crazy.

Trump has an advantage because Most Americans can't tell you the difference between Keynesian and Supply Side economics, most Americans can't name their senators, but they can sure as hell tell you who was on American Idol or Survivor or The Bachelor.

Bernie has the advantage of being from a neighboring state.

Now, these two could be the nominees of their party. If that happens, watch for Bloomberg to hop in.

You know Joe, at one time I agreed with you that the reason for "The Bern" doing so well there was because he was from a neighboring state. Some of it still may be true, but the facts say that in NH, at one time AFTER Bernie threw his hat in the ring, she had a 40 point lead over him and Omalley.

So yes, maybe he won by what 20 points or so, and the neighbor effect did add to it somewhat, but any more than 5 points would be kind of stretching it I think.

Still think Hilly is in the drivers seat, but without more enthusiasm the DNC may very well change drivers.

Most Americans don't think Hillary is trustworthy.

In 1992, most Americans didn't think Bill Clinton was trustworthy.

20% of Republicans think Barack Obama is a Muslim.

Sometimes...people believe things that aren't true.