Witness who saw the towers collapse on 9/11.

[Soupnazi630]

Your lack of knowledge is not "proof" regarding the issue
of prevalent propaganda disseminated amongst muslims

Your claims are not credible evidence at all

 

[irosie91]

After means nothing and no one stayed away

You claiemd JOOOOs stayed away they did not

At no time did I claim that JOOOOS stayed away---I,
CORRECTLY, stated that such a libel existed and exists
amongst muslims. The libel was TRULY idiotic----the
claim was that JOOOS thruout NYC were telephoned
the nite before the 9-11 attack and warned NOT TO BE
THERE and, IN FACT, were not there. You are, likely, not
familiar with islamic propaganda

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The planes didn't knock the towers over.

They didn't help.

 

[the other mike]

Gravity is predictable.

So are Newton's laws of motion

 

[irosie91]

Your claims are not credible evidence at all

my "claims" are testimony and entirely credible. If there is
some point with which you disagree based on information
that YOU KNOW-----feel free to so assert

 

[irosie91]

So are Newton's laws of motion

how are you applying Newton's laws to your theory that the
towers MUST have been brought down by controlled demolition?

 

[surada]

So are Newton's laws of motion

Trump loves conspiracy theories too.

 

[Soupnazi630]

my "claims" are testimony and entirely credible. If there is
some point with which you disagree based on information
that YOU KNOW-----feel free to so assert

No they are not.

TThey are just empty imaginary claims with no credibility

 

[Soupnazi630]

So are Newton's laws of motion

Which you know nothing of

 

[irosie91]

Trump loves conspiracy theories too.

suradie made two brilliant points : 1) the strike of the Jet plane into
the WTC did not KNOCK THE TOWERS DOWN 2) Trump loves
conspiracy theories. Neither of the two assertions have
have any meaning whatsoever in the present discussion. For the
record---the strikes of the Jet Planes into the WTC building did
result in their burning and collapse ---but in order to understand
WHY----a person would have had to pass either high school
chemistry or physics or be capable of doing so

 

[irosie91]

No they are not.

TThey are just empty imaginary claims with no credibility

your assertion is conjecture and delusion. Based on the
manner in which you express yourself, it SEEMS to me that
you are not familiar AT ALL with islamic propaganda or you
have been subjected to too much of it

 

[irosie91]

No they are not.

TThey are just empty imaginary claims with no credibility

wrong-----I testified to that which I saw and that which I was
TOLD by muslims and past experience with the nature of
islamic propaganda from muslims and written material and
a few visits to mosques

 

[Soupnazi630]

wrong-----I testified to that which I saw and that which I was
TOLD by muslims and past experience with the nature of
islamic propaganda from muslims and written material and
a few visits to mosques

No you did not.

You just posted made up crap

 

[surada]

suradie made two brilliant points : 1) the strike of the Jet plane into
the WTC did not KNOCK THE TOWERS DOWN 2) Trump loves
conspiracy theories. Neither of the two assertions have
have any meaning whatsoever in the present discussion. For the
record---the strikes of the Jet Planes into the WTC building did
result in their burning and collapse ---but in order to understand
WHY----a person would have had to pass either high school
chemistry or physics or be capable of doing so

They fell in their own footprint. They didn't fall sideways.

 

[surada]

wrong-----I testified to that which I saw and that which I was
TOLD by muslims and past experience with the nature of
islamic propaganda from muslims and written material and
a few visits to mosques

You're going to mosques in the US since 9/11?

 

[irosie91]

They fell in their own footprint. They didn't fall sideways.

correct------did anyone suggest that they fell sideways? What
does your assertion have to do with ANYTHING? That the
buildings collapsed 'in their own footprint' is entirely
consistent with the fact that they were struck near the top
by Jet Planes which exploded on impact and ignited fires.
Did you pass high school chemistry or physics?

 

[irosie91]

You're going to mosques in the US since 9/11?

no----prior to 9/11. Since 9/11, I continued to work with
and, to some extent, socialize with muslims. I have also read
islamic propaganda since the 1950s.

 

[surada]

no----prior to 9/11. Since 9/11, I continued to work with
and, to some extent, socialize with muslims. I have also read
islamic propaganda since the 1950s.

Then you are hanging out with radicals.

 

[irosie91]

Then you are hanging out with radicals.

nope-----regular normal people who happen to
work in the field of health care since early adulthood.
To what sort of RADICALS to you refer? -----the
episcopalians who disseminated nazi propaganda in
my childhood town?
In that time and place they were typical WASPS

 

[toobfreak]

Saving you people the trouble and posting this here
in the conspiracy theory forum because Paul Lemos is an eyewitness
who heard and saw explosions before the second (South) tower collapsed.
You're welcome.

I'll save you some sleepless nights, Mike and tell you that the video guy saw nothing unusual. There was no planted CIA bombs in the Towers. The WTC was designed and built in the 1960s using a new and novel technique which saved a lot of money, material and weight allowing them to go higher, but it came with an unforeseen terrible design flaw.

The entire outside of the building was a house of cards unable to support itself without innumerable tie-off points to the central core utility structure housing the elevators, AC, plumbing and wiring via the floors themselves. In other words, the floors were not supported but were instead the actual SUPPORTS themselves. Everything depended on everything else (except the center core) to hold itself up. Once the intense 1500°F heat from the burning jet fuel began to weaken and soften the ties supporting that floor (the designers wanted wide open floors without visible support beams for large uninterrupted office spaces and conference rooms so loaded all the stress through ties at either end of the floors making each one critical, their idea of protecting the floor support beams (which is what held up the entire outer skin) with fire coating failed as the coating wasn't designed to hold up to the concussive force of a jet explosion hitting at 600 mph so was immediately blown off!), so as soon as fatigue on that floor exceeded limits and failed, it transferred exponentially more load to the remaining tie-off points! Which then caused them to fail initiating a cascade collapse of the entire tower tearing the central core down with it.

The designers had only considered an accidental crash from a private airplane perhaps lost in bad weather and never dreamed of a deliberate targeting using a jumbo jet much larger than the biggest commercial jets of that era.

Those boom boom boom explosions your guy saw and heard were the tie-offs of all the floors sequentially failing top down violently as loads were transferred to remaining and fewer structural tie-offs, which is exactly what the building HAD to do and did do, as it began its inevitable collapse.