World wants Obama

which black person has been a major candidate in Europe?

Hardly a fair argument now is it?

The only countries with any black populations...are the UK, France and perhaps the Netherlands?

and at a very low percentage compared to the US....also to be honest i dont see Obama as black, anymore than i see McCain as white (albeit elderly and thick)...genuinely think its weird that it is even an issue.

Why is it even an issue?
 
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I have long put forward the proposal that Europeans should vote in the US election and only perhaps the 10% of americans who are on a similar intellectual plane.
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Gee do we have to stop shaving and start sunbathing nude too? Or is reaching your intellectual plane enough to earn the vote?

Oh, to dream, perchance to be european.....
 
Then tell me Cali why is that most of Europe is moving to the right? Sarkozy in France defeated a socialist to win the the office. In Germany for example Angela Merkel a member of the Christian Social Union, hardly a left leaning party. Most of Europe is more moderate these days and perhaps moving more right than ever, because they have begun to realize the same dangers that unchecked islamic extremists pose as we have. While it is true that the world generally favors a democratic candidate in the US for president than a republican one, this is hardly anything new. We all know why he gets the big ratings in Kenya, that has more to do with family heritage than his views. As for the world community, the next president is going to be faced with just more than a war in afghanistan, he will have to contend with a very hostile Russia, a possible Nuclear Iran, and Europe I can assure does NOT want a weak U.S. faced with the possiblity of contending with that.
 
So you prefer being poor...working twice as hard for half the money?

US standard of living was 43rd in the OECD study. AMericans ..mostly those who cant afford to travel, like yourself.... have this warped image that the US is somehow prosperous? Sure the top 5% are very welathy as they laugh at the rest of you.

This is why the US government has had a long and concerted plan to dumb down the masses. Keep chanting the mantra "land of the free"... even though most countries are much more free than the US.

You prefer living in a country which includes huge swathes of third world regions in the south and midwest?

Where religious extremism is commonplace?

Oh dear ..sounds like me .. someone needs to get out a little bit more and smell the coffee.. take a trip son...if you can afford it or if your boss will give you more than 2 days holiday a year! :eusa_pray::eusa_pray:

Pretty uninformed comment
some of those ratings regarding countries are also based on how much the "socialist movement" influences the society
it's not the world I live in or the country I live in your describing
 
The rest of the world looks up to the US. They don't want to make us weaker. Would you want to make someone you look up to weaker? Like your dad, for example.

The world wants the US back in a position of power (power of example and discipline) instead where it is at now (strained and discredited), because the course we have taken over the past eight years is a scary one. Many people see the world as less safe as a result of Bush. Bush is polarizing. When you take people that are in the middle and polarize them, each side feels it needs to beat the other side. Bush has done this, in a sense, on a global scale.

The world wants the US to take a leadership role again.

:eusa_liar:

I don't know what alternative reality you live in, but the world wants to knock us down a few pegs...they view us already as a hyperpower gone bad.....which usually means we are doing the right thing.....
 
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Originally Posted by Dr Grump
Has Europe got 400 years of black history?
quote: dilloduck
hell --they practically invented the slave trade--!


me:
it's more like 6000 years of black history when did the moors enter europe?
 
There is a perception around the world that Democrats are far less imperialist and militaristic than Republicans; people remember FDR, Kennedy, even Carter and Clinton, with much less hatred than Bush I, Bush II and Reagan (even Nixon), so naturally Democrats usually are supported more around the world than Republicans. It's not necessarily a correct perspective (Just take a look at the 'Clinton Doctrine' and compare it to the Bush Doctrine- they both have similarly hawkish aspirations), but that's what most think, I'd say.

The other thing about Obama is that he's black. Around the world, many perceive the US to be somewhat of a 'racist' country, and the fact that one of the candidates is Black is somewhat of a redeeming aspect- after all, his father was from the 'third world', where most people live. He just has that sort of 'underdog' image, which a large part of the world can connect to. That's kind of the picture I've gotten, anyway.

Obama's black!?

are you sure?
 
Then tell me Cali why is that most of Europe is moving to the right? Sarkozy in France defeated a socialist to win the the office. In Germany for example Angela Merkel a member of the Christian Social Union, hardly a left leaning party. Most of Europe is more moderate these days and perhaps moving more right than ever, because they have begun to realize the same dangers that unchecked islamic extremists pose as we have. While it is true that the world generally favors a democratic candidate in the US for president than a republican one, this is hardly anything new. We all know why he gets the big ratings in Kenya, that has more to do with family heritage than his views. As for the world community, the next president is going to be faced with just more than a war in afghanistan, he will have to contend with a very hostile Russia, a possible Nuclear Iran, and Europe I can assure does NOT want a weak U.S. faced with the possiblity of contending with that.

A conservative European would be considered a Democrat in the US...a MOR one at that...
 
As for the world community, the next president is going to be faced with .... a very hostile Russia, a possible Nuclear Iran, and Europe I can assure does NOT want a weak U.S. faced with the possiblity of contending with that.

Maybe Europe will mind its own business...something US righties might learn from...
 
Which one? Slavery's been around since the dawn of time...

That aside, they gave it up long before the US did....

hell gump---the one that brought slaves to the americas in THE FIRST PLACE. What slave trade do you think we're talking about here ??
 
Then tell me Cali why is that most of Europe is moving to the right? Sarkozy in France defeated a socialist to win the the office. In Germany for example Angela Merkel a member of the Christian Social Union, hardly a left leaning party. Most of Europe is more moderate these days and perhaps moving more right than ever, because they have begun to realize the same dangers that unchecked islamic extremists pose as we have. While it is true that the world generally favors a democratic candidate in the US for president than a republican one, this is hardly anything new. We all know why he gets the big ratings in Kenya, that has more to do with family heritage than his views. As for the world community, the next president is going to be faced with just more than a war in afghanistan, he will have to contend with a very hostile Russia, a possible Nuclear Iran, and Europe I can assure does NOT want a weak U.S. faced with the possiblity of contending with that.

I don't know - I do know that the US leads the world. Maybe they wanted to be like Bush, or ,maybe they went further right in response to Bush being so trigger happy.

I think we can all agree that we want a safer world, and we all value liberty. I'd personally rather have a safer world by reducing threats, than by arming myself to the teeth. It makes for less luggage.

I see reducing threats as doing things like reducing nuclear stockpiles and having transparent relations as much as possible (inspections and whatnot, fair and so on). I think a pre-emptive war on faulty intelligence certainly does not reduce threats. It scares the shit out of the people around you, and they start arming up as well.

I did like Obama's line, that McCain said he would follow bin Laden to the gates of hell, but that he won't track him down to his cave. Kerry also ran on getting rid of bin Laden. Removing bin laden would reduce threats, and probably in a way with minimal collateral damage. Overthrowing a stable (if nauseating) regime is a messy business and risky considering Iran next door may be able to capitalize on it, etc - Not a good way to reduce threats in general.

But I only get this stuff off the news and don't really know much about it other than that.
 
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Then tell me Cali why is that most of Europe is moving to the right? Sarkozy in France defeated a socialist to win the the office. In Germany for example Angela Merkel a member of the Christian Social Union, hardly a left leaning party. Most of Europe is more moderate these days and perhaps moving more right than ever, because they have begun to realize the same dangers that unchecked islamic extremists pose as we have. While it is true that the world generally favors a democratic candidate in the US for president than a republican one, this is hardly anything new. We all know why he gets the big ratings in Kenya, that has more to do with family heritage than his views. As for the world community, the next president is going to be faced with just more than a war in afghanistan, he will have to contend with a very hostile Russia, a possible Nuclear Iran, and Europe I can assure does NOT want a weak U.S. faced with the possiblity of contending with that.


Oh dear, you really do prove the point. Bushteam convinced at least one peasant.

Not one person in Europe gives an F about the US inspired islamic extremism.... because we are not so easily brainwashed... war on terror, war on terror...look into my eyes Navy...be very afraid of men with beards and long white robes.... war on terror... only we can protect you....war on terror, war on terror.



Muslims are about as scary or as powerful as a John McCain's (he didnt have sex change did he over in vietnam?thailand.) very high pitched voice.

I admit that after the terrorist attrocities committed by BUSHTEAM in iraq....that a few more have joined the US desired islamic extremism boat... but its still 0.00000001% of muslims in the world.

never FORGET...BUSHTEAM NEED AN ENEMY... AND ARE TRYING SO HARD TO CREATE ONE.... BUT EVEN MASSACRING 100,000 WOMEN AND CHILDREN....still no serious enemy.
 
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I don't know what alternative reality you live in, but the world wants to knock us down a few pegs...they view us already as a hyperpower gone bad.....which usually means we are doing the right thing.....

You don't think they would breathe a sigh of relief if we went back to investing in technology and education and science and knowledge and al that good stuff that makes for a bright future?

But "they" is pretty vague, and no doubt there is room for all sorts of opinions. The idea of painting the people of the world with one brush is pretty silly, isn't it.
 
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Originally Posted by Dr Grump
Has Europe got 400 years of black history?
quote: dilloduck
hell --they practically invented the slave trade--!


me:
it's more like 6000 years of black history when did the moors enter europe?

In the 8th century, then they got booted about 14th century ..
 
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Oh dear, you really do prove the point. Bushteam convinced at least one peasant.

Not one person in Europe gives an F about the US inspired islamic extremism.... because we are not so easily brainwashed... war on terror, war on terror...look into my eyes Navy...be very afraid of men with beards and long white robes.... war on terror... only we can protect you....war on terror, war on terror.



Muslims are about as scary or as powerful as a John McCain (he didnt have sex change did he over in vietnam?thailand.. very high pitched voice).

I admit that after the terrorist attrocities committed by BUSHTEAM in iraq....that a few more have joined the US desired islamic extremism boat... but its still 0.00000001% of muslims in the world.

How many muslims do you have over the now doing the manual labor for ya ? I understand they have qutie the new mosque too. You can't afford to be afraid of them. They got you by the balls
 
hell gump---the one that brought slaves to the americas in THE FIRST PLACE. What slave trade do you think we're talking about here ??

YOu said the Europeans invented the slave trade. I'm saying they didn't, that it has been around a lot longer than that. Asia, Africa and the Americas had slavery long before Europeans went to those places...
 

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