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Would Declaring A State Of Emergency 'Set A Bad Precedent'?

This is a National Emergency, there's no question.

You are being bombarded by thousands a day, criminals just planning to make money in the USA and the Mexican government unwilling or unable to stop it.

Build the wall, protect your sovereignty and citizens safety.

Yup. In the case it is a national emergency and has been for decades.

We have over 11 million illegals in this country right now. They are costing we the tax payer billions every year.

They have killed American citizens and need to be booted the hell out of the US.
"Yup. In the case it is a national emergency and has been for decades."

If it was such an emergency why is Drumpf just now addressing it after 2 years?

It should have been addressed by prior Presidents but wasn't. One of Trump's campaign promises was the wall and he's been "harping" on it for two years.

You might like spending billions on illegals and having our citizens killed by them but I sure as hell don't.

They arrested 1900 over the weekend and I am wondering how many made it across that no one saw.
You never answered why Drumpf hasnt done anything for 2 years. Why did you deflect? :rolleyes:

Deflect?? He's been trying to get the wall for two years which a way to do something about illegal immigration.

Where the hell have you been??
So why didnt he declare it an emergency 2 years ago? :rolleyes:
 
More like 22 million illegals.

Hey you're only off by a factor of 2. Damn good by Trumper standards. 11 million and a bunch of them have worked for TRUMP for years

Oh and I wonder how you're going to feel when President Harris declares an emergency because (for instance) we have had 25 mass shootings in the first month of 2019 and wants executive action to address guns when Congress won't do it...

Eh?
 
Yup. In the case it is a national emergency and has been for decades.

We have over 11 million illegals in this country right now. They are costing we the tax payer billions every year.

They have killed American citizens and need to be booted the hell out of the US.
"Yup. In the case it is a national emergency and has been for decades."

If it was such an emergency why is Drumpf just now addressing it after 2 years?

It should have been addressed by prior Presidents but wasn't. One of Trump's campaign promises was the wall and he's been "harping" on it for two years.

You might like spending billions on illegals and having our citizens killed by them but I sure as hell don't.

They arrested 1900 over the weekend and I am wondering how many made it across that no one saw.
You never answered why Drumpf hasnt done anything for 2 years. Why did you deflect? :rolleyes:

Deflect?? He's been trying to get the wall for two years which a way to do something about illegal immigration.

Where the hell have you been??
So why didnt he declare it an emergency 2 years ago? :rolleyes:



Feb. 15th.
Yup. In the case it is a national emergency and has been for decades.

We have over 11 million illegals in this country right now. They are costing we the tax payer billions every year.

They have killed American citizens and need to be booted the hell out of the US.
"Yup. In the case it is a national emergency and has been for decades."

If it was such an emergency why is Drumpf just now addressing it after 2 years?

It should have been addressed by prior Presidents but wasn't. One of Trump's campaign promises was the wall and he's been "harping" on it for two years.

You might like spending billions on illegals and having our citizens killed by them but I sure as hell don't.

They arrested 1900 over the weekend and I am wondering how many made it across that no one saw.
You never answered why Drumpf hasnt done anything for 2 years. Why did you deflect? :rolleyes:

Deflect?? He's been trying to get the wall for two years which a way to do something about illegal immigration.

Where the hell have you been??
So why didnt he declare it an emergency 2 years ago? :rolleyes:

Now your just being silly.

Why would he when he stand a good chance of getting the wall build.
 
I'm more concerned about the precedent set by the Obama admin of spying on a presidential campaign of the opposing party and then setting up embeds to attempt a coup after the spied upon candidate won anyway.
 
"Yup. In the case it is a national emergency and has been for decades."

If it was such an emergency why is Drumpf just now addressing it after 2 years?

It should have been addressed by prior Presidents but wasn't. One of Trump's campaign promises was the wall and he's been "harping" on it for two years.

You might like spending billions on illegals and having our citizens killed by them but I sure as hell don't.

They arrested 1900 over the weekend and I am wondering how many made it across that no one saw.
You never answered why Drumpf hasnt done anything for 2 years. Why did you deflect? :rolleyes:

Deflect?? He's been trying to get the wall for two years which a way to do something about illegal immigration.

Where the hell have you been??
So why didnt he declare it an emergency 2 years ago? :rolleyes:



Feb. 15th.
"Yup. In the case it is a national emergency and has been for decades."

If it was such an emergency why is Drumpf just now addressing it after 2 years?

It should have been addressed by prior Presidents but wasn't. One of Trump's campaign promises was the wall and he's been "harping" on it for two years.

You might like spending billions on illegals and having our citizens killed by them but I sure as hell don't.

They arrested 1900 over the weekend and I am wondering how many made it across that no one saw.
You never answered why Drumpf hasnt done anything for 2 years. Why did you deflect? :rolleyes:

Deflect?? He's been trying to get the wall for two years which a way to do something about illegal immigration.

Where the hell have you been??
So why didnt he declare it an emergency 2 years ago? :rolleyes:

Now your just being silly.

Why would he when he stand a good chance of getting the wall build.
He would have declared it an emergency because thats what he is saying now that the Dems have the house. If he had a good chance why did he wait 2 years to decide its an emergency?
 
It should have been addressed by prior Presidents but wasn't. One of Trump's campaign promises was the wall and he's been "harping" on it for two years.

You might like spending billions on illegals and having our citizens killed by them but I sure as hell don't.

They arrested 1900 over the weekend and I am wondering how many made it across that no one saw.
You never answered why Drumpf hasnt done anything for 2 years. Why did you deflect? :rolleyes:

Deflect?? He's been trying to get the wall for two years which a way to do something about illegal immigration.

Where the hell have you been??
So why didnt he declare it an emergency 2 years ago? :rolleyes:



Feb. 15th.
It should have been addressed by prior Presidents but wasn't. One of Trump's campaign promises was the wall and he's been "harping" on it for two years.

You might like spending billions on illegals and having our citizens killed by them but I sure as hell don't.

They arrested 1900 over the weekend and I am wondering how many made it across that no one saw.
You never answered why Drumpf hasnt done anything for 2 years. Why did you deflect? :rolleyes:

Deflect?? He's been trying to get the wall for two years which a way to do something about illegal immigration.

Where the hell have you been??
So why didnt he declare it an emergency 2 years ago? :rolleyes:

Now your just being silly.

Why would he when he stand a good chance of getting the wall build.
He would have declared it an emergency because thats what he is saying now that the Dems have the house. If he had a good chance why did he wait 2 years to decide its an emergency?

LMAO He hasn't declared it an emergency yet. And I wouldn't worry about it until and if he does.
 
You never answered why Drumpf hasnt done anything for 2 years. Why did you deflect? :rolleyes:

Deflect?? He's been trying to get the wall for two years which a way to do something about illegal immigration.

Where the hell have you been??
So why didnt he declare it an emergency 2 years ago? :rolleyes:



Feb. 15th.
You never answered why Drumpf hasnt done anything for 2 years. Why did you deflect? :rolleyes:

Deflect?? He's been trying to get the wall for two years which a way to do something about illegal immigration.

Where the hell have you been??
So why didnt he declare it an emergency 2 years ago? :rolleyes:

Now your just being silly.

Why would he when he stand a good chance of getting the wall build.
He would have declared it an emergency because thats what he is saying now that the Dems have the house. If he had a good chance why did he wait 2 years to decide its an emergency?

LMAO He hasn't declared it an emergency yet. And I wouldn't worry about it until and if he does.
I'm not worried. I'm just pointing out the fact that its not an emergency if you wait 2 years to decide its an emergency. :rolleyes:
 
I'm more concerned about the precedent set by the Obama admin of spying on a presidential campaign of the opposing party and then setting up embeds to attempt a coup after the spied upon candidate won anyway.
Just wondering...do two diametrically opposed people post on your USMB account?
 
Oh and I wonder how you're going to feel when President Harris declares an emergency because (for instance) we have had 25 mass shootings in the first month of 2019 and wants executive action to address guns when Congress won't do it...

Eh?

No response to this?

Hmmmm
 
Deflect?? He's been trying to get the wall for two years which a way to do something about illegal immigration.

Where the hell have you been??
So why didnt he declare it an emergency 2 years ago? :rolleyes:



Feb. 15th.
Deflect?? He's been trying to get the wall for two years which a way to do something about illegal immigration.

Where the hell have you been??
So why didnt he declare it an emergency 2 years ago? :rolleyes:

Now your just being silly.

Why would he when he stand a good chance of getting the wall build.
He would have declared it an emergency because thats what he is saying now that the Dems have the house. If he had a good chance why did he wait 2 years to decide its an emergency?

LMAO He hasn't declared it an emergency yet. And I wouldn't worry about it until and if he does.
I'm not worried. I'm just pointing out the fact that its not an emergency if you wait 2 years to decide its an emergency. :rolleyes:


These illegals cost us billions in tax dollars every year.

They kill American citizens every year.

They mule drugs into the country every year.

They work under the table and bring wages down every year.

If you don't believe these assholes are an emergency then you are a fool.
 
I'm more concerned about the precedent set by the Obama admin of spying on a presidential campaign of the opposing party and then setting up embeds to attempt a coup after the spied upon candidate won anyway.
Just wondering...do two diametrically opposed people post on your USMB account?
Names are similar but different posters. This one you are addressing is an idiot.
 
So why didnt he declare it an emergency 2 years ago? :rolleyes:



Feb. 15th.
So why didnt he declare it an emergency 2 years ago? :rolleyes:

Now your just being silly.

Why would he when he stand a good chance of getting the wall build.
He would have declared it an emergency because thats what he is saying now that the Dems have the house. If he had a good chance why did he wait 2 years to decide its an emergency?

LMAO He hasn't declared it an emergency yet. And I wouldn't worry about it until and if he does.
I'm not worried. I'm just pointing out the fact that its not an emergency if you wait 2 years to decide its an emergency. :rolleyes:


These illegals cost us billions in tax dollars every year.

They kill American citizens every year.

They mule drugs into the country every year.

They work under the table and bring wages down every year.

If you don't believe these assholes are an emergency then you are a fool.
Yeah yeah. I've heard all the horror stories but it still doesnt explain why its suddenly an emergency. :rolleyes:
 
Would Declaring A State Of Emergency 'Set A Bad Precedent'?


https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...precedent.html
By Carol Brown ~~ Republicans, from Mark Meadows to RINO types, are building a case against Trump's threat to declare a national emergency as a means of funding more walls at the southern border. They claim that if Trump does this, it will "set a bad precedent" (here, here, here, here, and here). Really?
A precedent is a change in how things are done and lays the groundwork for more of the same to follow. It can be used as a point of reference for similar actions in the future. To say it would set a bad precedent if Trump declared a national emergency is ridiculous in light of the fact that fifty-eight national emergencies have been declared since 1976, when the National Emergencies Act was signed into law. Thirty-one of these declared emergencies remain in effect.
The other argument you sometimes hear is that if Trump used his executive authority to declare a national emergency, then the Democrats may use this same tool in the future.
Um. Excuse me. But I'm sure the Democrats are aware of this tool and won't hesitate to use it when they win the White House one day, irrespective of whether Trump uses it for the wall or not (although they would claim he set the precedent). In case you haven't noticed, Democrats use every tool at their disposal to advance their agenda.



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Hmm..., " Stroke of the pen. Law of the Land". Who said that? Well, it wasn't a Republican that said those words.
It appears that the more they fight it, the more Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats and friends the RINOs prove themselves to be lawless supporters of criminals who want America to be overrun and destroyed. How many Americans really support that view? Some, but not most.
The Constitution does not give Congress or Courts rights to interfere into President's actions to secure US border. The president does not need 'State of Emergency' to build the 'Wall' on the border.
According to the article, there are approximately States of Emergency declared by George W. Bush '43' declared 13 and Barack Obama 12, most of which are still in effect, according to CNN. Trump's States of Emergency So far, the president has declared three national emergencies under the National Emergencies Act, according to the Brennan Center.
IMO, there are at least 2 sources outside of the US budget. Money the US government has confiscated from criminals are not in a budget and can be used to secure US.
Then the US Government can impose fees and fines for certain business activity, which are not in a budget and can be used to secure US. Additionally, Congress has allocated hundreds of billions of dollars to various national security related departments and I am sure that Pentagon can survive if some of the troops training would be done not deep inside US territory, but on a construction of the Wall.
'Precedent"?

Does the OP - and snowflakes - not know Barry did so 13 times ... Once over BURUNDI?

:p
 
Interesting story in Arizona when a smuggler using a ladder help 100 people climb over a fence

Another story about a week ago of people tunneling under the wall

All indicating the fallacy of a wall just to mention a few

Smuggler know this and that is why tunnels are discovered by border patrol and I guess a few have ladders

Declaring a state of emergency because he wants to build a wall when it has so many ways that it can be defeated is a political stunt

Is like declaring that I am proud to shut down the government

It just doing something for a political expediency

without examining alternatives or doing a feasibility study

It is like Homer saying "Doh"

or yelling fire in a theater just to get a better seat
 
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Would Declaring A State Of Emergency 'Set A Bad Precedent'?


https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...precedent.html
By Carol Brown ~~ Republicans, from Mark Meadows to RINO types, are building a case against Trump's threat to declare a national emergency as a means of funding more walls at the southern border. They claim that if Trump does this, it will "set a bad precedent" (here, here, here, here, and here). Really?
A precedent is a change in how things are done and lays the groundwork for more of the same to follow. It can be used as a point of reference for similar actions in the future. To say it would set a bad precedent if Trump declared a national emergency is ridiculous in light of the fact that fifty-eight national emergencies have been declared since 1976, when the National Emergencies Act was signed into law. Thirty-one of these declared emergencies remain in effect.
The other argument you sometimes hear is that if Trump used his executive authority to declare a national emergency, then the Democrats may use this same tool in the future.
Um. Excuse me. But I'm sure the Democrats are aware of this tool and won't hesitate to use it when they win the White House one day, irrespective of whether Trump uses it for the wall or not (although they would claim he set the precedent). In case you haven't noticed, Democrats use every tool at their disposal to advance their agenda.



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Hmm..., " Stroke of the pen. Law of the Land". Who said that? Well, it wasn't a Republican that said those words.
It appears that the more they fight it, the more Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats and friends the RINOs prove themselves to be lawless supporters of criminals who want America to be overrun and destroyed. How many Americans really support that view? Some, but not most.
The Constitution does not give Congress or Courts rights to interfere into President's actions to secure US border. The president does not need 'State of Emergency' to build the 'Wall' on the border.
According to the article, there are approximately States of Emergency declared by George W. Bush '43' declared 13 and Barack Obama 12, most of which are still in effect, according to CNN. Trump's States of Emergency So far, the president has declared three national emergencies under the National Emergencies Act, according to the Brennan Center.
IMO, there are at least 2 sources outside of the US budget. Money the US government has confiscated from criminals are not in a budget and can be used to secure US.
Then the US Government can impose fees and fines for certain business activity, which are not in a budget and can be used to secure US. Additionally, Congress has allocated hundreds of billions of dollars to various national security related departments and I am sure that Pentagon can survive if some of the troops training would be done not deep inside US territory, but on a construction of the Wall.
'Precedent"?

Does the OP - and snowflakes - not know Barry did so 13 times ... Once over BURUNDI?

:p
How many of them did Drumpf renew?

Here are the 28 active national emergencies - CNNPolitics

"George W. Bush declared 13 emergencies and Barack Obama declared 12 -- nearly all of which are still active today. Bill Clinton declared 17 national emergencies, six of which are still active. Ronald Reagan declared six and George H.W. Bush declared four -- but all of those have been revoked by now."
 
Would Declaring A State Of Emergency 'Set A Bad Precedent'?


https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...precedent.html
By Carol Brown ~~ Republicans, from Mark Meadows to RINO types, are building a case against Trump's threat to declare a national emergency as a means of funding more walls at the southern border. They claim that if Trump does this, it will "set a bad precedent" (here, here, here, here, and here). Really?
A precedent is a change in how things are done and lays the groundwork for more of the same to follow. It can be used as a point of reference for similar actions in the future. To say it would set a bad precedent if Trump declared a national emergency is ridiculous in light of the fact that fifty-eight national emergencies have been declared since 1976, when the National Emergencies Act was signed into law. Thirty-one of these declared emergencies remain in effect.
The other argument you sometimes hear is that if Trump used his executive authority to declare a national emergency, then the Democrats may use this same tool in the future.
Um. Excuse me. But I'm sure the Democrats are aware of this tool and won't hesitate to use it when they win the White House one day, irrespective of whether Trump uses it for the wall or not (although they would claim he set the precedent). In case you haven't noticed, Democrats use every tool at their disposal to advance their agenda.



~~~~~~
Hmm..., " Stroke of the pen. Law of the Land". Who said that? Well, it wasn't a Republican that said those words.
It appears that the more they fight it, the more Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats and friends the RINOs prove themselves to be lawless supporters of criminals who want America to be overrun and destroyed. How many Americans really support that view? Some, but not most.
The Constitution does not give Congress or Courts rights to interfere into President's actions to secure US border. The president does not need 'State of Emergency' to build the 'Wall' on the border.
According to the article, there are approximately States of Emergency declared by George W. Bush '43' declared 13 and Barack Obama 12, most of which are still in effect, according to CNN. Trump's States of Emergency So far, the president has declared three national emergencies under the National Emergencies Act, according to the Brennan Center.
IMO, there are at least 2 sources outside of the US budget. Money the US government has confiscated from criminals are not in a budget and can be used to secure US.
Then the US Government can impose fees and fines for certain business activity, which are not in a budget and can be used to secure US. Additionally, Congress has allocated hundreds of billions of dollars to various national security related departments and I am sure that Pentagon can survive if some of the troops training would be done not deep inside US territory, but on a construction of the Wall.

The Democrats are not going to use this for their own purposes as it would be tied up in the courts as well. It is going to be tied up in the courts if Trump tries it. You don't need to set a precedent.

The Constitution gives Congress the power of the purse. A national emergency to build a wall would directly contradict the Constitution. The national emergencies that have been declared lie largely in the foreign policy arena which does not directly contradict the Constitution. The spending for a wall has to be authorized by Congress.
 

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