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Donald Trump is one of the most dangerous men in the word
"But that is precisely what Trump wants: to be feared. His bid for the White House, long ridiculed, is a fight for a ruthless, brutal America. Behind his campaign slogan "Make America great again!" is the vision of a country that no longer cares about international treaties, ethnic minorities or established standards of decency.
Trump wants to attack head-first again. The 69-year-old embodies a new harshness and brutality, and both a physical and emotional crudeness."
Do you think he will be the most dangerous man in the world? Who will be more dangerous than Trump if he wins?
i think he will be dangerous even if he is not presidentDonald Trump is one of the most dangerous men in the word
"But that is precisely what Trump wants: to be feared. His bid for the White House, long ridiculed, is a fight for a ruthless, brutal America. Behind his campaign slogan "Make America great again!" is the vision of a country that no longer cares about international treaties, ethnic minorities or established standards of decency.
Trump wants to attack head-first again. The 69-year-old embodies a new harshness and brutality, and both a physical and emotional crudeness."
Do you think he will be the most dangerous man in the world? Who will be more dangerous than Trump if he wins?
no its ideologicalNo....Trump is a non-politician businessman....a moderate....Trump is a moderate......Where are all the moderates?? Our choices are one extreme or the other.
Trump is a New Deal, FDR, Democrat!
Pragmatic, not ideological.
he will have many weapons at his disposalDonald Trump is one of the most dangerous men in the word
"But that is precisely what Trump wants: to be feared. His bid for the White House, long ridiculed, is a fight for a ruthless, brutal America. Behind his campaign slogan "Make America great again!" is the vision of a country that no longer cares about international treaties, ethnic minorities or established standards of decency.
Trump wants to attack head-first again. The 69-year-old embodies a new harshness and brutality, and both a physical and emotional crudeness."
Do you think he will be the most dangerous man in the world? Who will be more dangerous than Trump if he wins?
yes him tooYou mean Obama......
good ideaWhere are all the moderates?? Our choices are one extreme or the other.
Deport the illegals, bring back manufacturing jobs, and stop fucking with Russia.
If THAT is "extreme" then the problem is US, not Trump.
agreed
I will be voting for Trumpagreed
You seem to be awfully "wishy washy." Why don't YOU give us your opinions on these matters. Who are you voting for?
I will be voting for Trumpagreed
You seem to be awfully "wishy washy." Why don't YOU give us your opinions on these matters. Who are you voting for?
Where do YOU PEOPLE come up with such stupid propositions? Turn your fucking TV or Internet offDonald Trump is one of the most dangerous men in the word
"But that is precisely what Trump wants: to be feared. His bid for the White House, long ridiculed, is a fight for a ruthless, brutal America. Behind his campaign slogan "Make America great again!" is the vision of a country that no longer cares about international treaties, ethnic minorities or established standards of decency.
Trump wants to attack head-first again. The 69-year-old embodies a new harshness and brutality, and both a physical and emotional crudeness."
Do you think he will be the most dangerous man in the world? Who will be more dangerous than Trump if he wins?
very informative post niceSure but Clinton will be the one who ushers in ww3. Remember, she voted for the Iraq war. Trump had no say.
Trump certainly talked a good game about his early opposition to the war. The truth is somewhat different...
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Here's a quick guide to Trump's various position on the war:
Trump's evolution on Iraq tracks closely with that of many Americans. As theWashington Post has pointed out, his public criticism of the invasion coincided with the broader shift in American public opinion on the war's conduct. But as he mounted his bid for the presidency, Trump began to tell a very different story—that of a lone truth-teller. Last September he said that his debate audience could find "25 different stories" on his opposition to the invasion of Iraq, and he introduced a new bit of drama that had not been disclosed previously: Trump's vocal criticism of the march to war in the press had so unnerved President George W. Bush that he sent a delegation to Trump Tower to calm him down.
- "I'm no warmonger. But the fact is, if we decide a strike against Iraq is necessary, it is madness not to carry the mission to its conclusion. When we don't, we have the worst of all worlds: Iraq remains a threat, and now has more incentive than ever to attack us." (Trump's 2000 book, The America We Deserve)
- "Yeah, I guess so; I wish the first time it was done correctly." (Interview withHoward Stern, 2002)
- "Either you attack or you don't attack." (Interview with Neil Cavuto, 2003)
- "Well, he has either got to do something or not do something, perhaps, because perhaps shouldn't be doing it yet and perhaps we should be waiting for the United Nations, you know. He's under a lot of pressure. He's—I think he's doing a very good job." (Same interview)
- "I think Wall Street's waiting to see what happens but even before the fact they're obviously taking it a little bit for granted and it looks like a tremendous success from a military standpoint and I think this is really nothing compared to what you're gonna see after the war is over." (Fox News, one day into the 2003 invasion)
- "Look at the war in Iraq and the mess that we're in. I would never have handled it that way. Does anybody really believe that Iraq is going to be a wonderful democracy where people are going to run down to the voting box and gently put in their ballot and the winner is happily going to step up to lead the county? C'mon. Two minutes after we leave, there's going to be a revolution, and the meanest, toughest, smartest, most vicious guy will take over. And he'll have weapons of mass destruction, which Saddam didn't have." (Esquire, 2004)
- "How do they get out? You know how they get out? They get out. That's how they get out. Declare victory and leave. Because I'll tell you, this country is just going to get further bogged down. They're in a civil war over there, Wolf. There's nothing that we're going to be able to do with a civil war. They are in a major civil war." (CNN, 2007)
"We should have never gone into Iraq," he told Fox News in 2015. "I've said it loud and clear. I was visited by people from the White House asking me to sort of could I be silenced because I seem to get a disproportionate amount of publicity. I mean I was very strong: 'You're going to destabilize the Middle East.'"
At a Republican debate in February, he reiterated his position, bragging that his outspoken statements of dissent were particularly noteworthy because he was only a private citizen. "I'm the only one on this stage that said, 'Do not go into Iraq, do not attack Iraq,'" Trump said. "Nobody else on this stage said that. And I said it loud and strong. And I was in the private sector. I wasn't a politician, fortunately. But I said it, and I said it loud and clear, 'You'll destabilize the Middle East.' That’s exactly what happened."
But when he was confronted with his 2002 comments on Howard Stern (Stern: "Are you for invading Iraq?" Trump: "Yeah, I guess") later that month, Trump seemed at a loss. "I really don’t even know what I mean because that was a long time ago and who knows what was in my head," he told Chuck Todd.
Trump continued to talk up his Iraq opposition on the stump, though, and by the time he was confronted with his 2002 comments again in May, by Fox News' Bret Baier, he had a (slightly) more fluid response. "I'm talking to Howard Stern, weeks before, the first time anybody had ever asked," he said. "And don't forget, I was a civilian. The first time anyone ever asked me about the war, about should we go in, because it was a question, are we going in? And I said very weakly, 'Well, blah, blah, blah, yes, I guess.'"
By June, Trump had locked up the nomination, but he still hadn't offered up any of the supposed two-dozen articles that he claimed would vindicate his claim of having opposed the war from the start. He told CNN's Jake Tapper that there were plenty of articles attesting to his criticism from 2004 and on (true) and said of the infamous Stern interview, "even that, it wasn't like, 'oh yeah, we should go in.' It was a very, like, 'yeah, maybe.'"
Trump has still never produced an article or an interview from before the invasion that back up his claims of "loud and clear" criticism. And in recent months, surrogates have excused the absence of evidence by noting that Trump was just a simple businessman—so of course no one asked him. But in September, Trump threw yet another explanation into the mix. He did speak out—he just did it in private phone conversations with Sean Hannity.**
Read more at: What did Donald Trump say on the Iraq war and when did he say it?
So there you have it- from a critic so vocal that Bush Jr. decided to send a delegation his way in order to "calm him down", to whispering sweet nothings in Sean Hannity's ear...
Someone who actually -did- oppose the Iraq war from the start was Bernie Sanders:
List of Congressional opponents of the Iraq War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Where are all the moderates?? Our choices are one extreme or the other.
Hillary is far from extreme. She is reasonably moderate.
he will be dangerous with his military tacticsDonald Trump is one of the most dangerous men in the word
"But that is precisely what Trump wants: to be feared. His bid for the White House, long ridiculed, is a fight for a ruthless, brutal America. Behind his campaign slogan "Make America great again!" is the vision of a country that no longer cares about international treaties, ethnic minorities or established standards of decency.
Trump wants to attack head-first again. The 69-year-old embodies a new harshness and brutality, and both a physical and emotional crudeness."
Do you think he will be the most dangerous man in the world? Who will be more dangerous than Trump if he wins?
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She is a globalist that voted for the iraq war. An extreme neocon warhawk who will bring us into the third ww. She hates america and what it stands for.
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She is a globalist that voted for the iraq war. An extreme neocon warhawk who will bring us into the third ww. She hates america and what it stands for.
As I've pointed out ad nauseum, something like 98% of GoPers in the house and senate voted for the war. Under 50 % of Dems did. And it was based on GoP lies from chickenhawks like Dick Deferment Cheney and Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.
She loves America a lot more that Donald the Destroyer.
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She is a globalist that voted for the iraq war. An extreme neocon warhawk who will bring us into the third ww. She hates america and what it stands for.
As I've pointed out ad nauseum, something like 98% of GoPers in the house and senate voted for the war. Under 50 % of Dems did. And it was based on GoP lies from chickenhawks like Dick Deferment Cheney and Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.
She loves America a lot more that Donald the Destroyer.
agreed[
She is a globalist that voted for the iraq war. An extreme neocon warhawk who will bring us into the third ww. She hates america and what it stands for.
As I've pointed out ad nauseum, something like 98% of GoPers in the house and senate voted for the war. Under 50 % of Dems did. And it was based on GoP lies from chickenhawks like Dick Deferment Cheney and Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.
She loves America a lot more that Donald the Destroyer.
She voted for the war. She is a globalist. She listens to Soros who wants population control. She will usher in ww3.
no wayDonald Trump is one of the most dangerous men in the word
"But that is precisely what Trump wants: to be feared. His bid for the White House, long ridiculed, is a fight for a ruthless, brutal America. Behind his campaign slogan "Make America great again!" is the vision of a country that no longer cares about international treaties, ethnic minorities or established standards of decency.
Trump wants to attack head-first again. The 69-year-old embodies a new harshness and brutality, and both a physical and emotional crudeness."
Do you think he will be the most dangerous man in the world? Who will be more dangerous than Trump if he wins?