Would Photos Of Planned Parenthoods Victims Help Or Hurt The Lefts "We Care About The Children" Act?

[blastoff]

Picture’s worth a thousands words and all that but a video really shows the drama.

The ones most of the pro-choicers really like, probably because they’re so action-packed, are the partial-birth abortion execution tapes. I guess it’s the little arms and legs flailing about after the executioner penetrates the baby’s skull with an ice pick or something and starts to scramble that tiny brain around. Boy, that gets the spasmodic twitching and sudden reflexes really going full tilt. Until the baby’s dead. Fade to black.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

The left's RELIGION does not allow them to consider science.

Biff was here 6/22/2018, 2:01 pm CST

 

[koshergrl]

"The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".[1]

"The law is codified in two sections of the United States Code: Title 18, Chapter 1 (Crimes), §1841 (18 USC 1841) and Title 10, Chapter 22 (Uniform Code of Military Justice) §919a (Article 119a)."

"Husband Scott Peterson was convicted of double homicide under California's fetal homicide law."

So yeah. Abortion is murder.
Unborn Victims of Violence Act - Wikipedia

Should women who have an abortion be charged with homicide?

If not, this post is a fail

Not if they think it's legal.

They think it's legal because they're taught in schools and by conspirators like seahag and care and the abortionists tell them it's the cool thing to do.

Throw the abortionists and all their employees in prison.
Round up the scumbags who encourage girls to get abortions.

The women are victimized by the offal who defend human trafficking, sex trafficking, and baby killing just as much as the babies are.

So...if you somehow thought killing a federal agent was legal, you wouldn't be charged with homicide? There's that lack of an education for you.

You don't understand the difference between justified and legal, I see.

Nobody thinks killing a federal agent is *legal*. The schools don't teach that particular stupidity.

But the schools and the media tell young victimized women over and over that baby killing is *legal*..then when those poor women are tricked into killing their babies, you pretend it's hypocritical for the law not to prosecute them...

It's just evidence of what little regard you have for the women you victimize..and how blatant you are about using them.

It's the same thing with trafficked kids. You traffic them..then claim that their misery is caused by the people who rescue them.

You people are culls and hopefully will be mowed down before too long.

How are women tricked into having an abortion??

For example, are you saying that if you were a rich politician and you had an affair that produced a child -- then you decided to use a slush fund to pay that person to have an abortion -- is that tricking her into having an abortion?

RNC fundraiser resigns after report of $1.6 million Playmate payoff

Yes. It's called exploitation and victimization.

 

[bodecea]

Picture’s worth a thousands words and all that but a video really shows the drama.

The ones most of the pro-choicers really like, probably because they’re so action-packed, are the partial-birth abortion execution tapes. I guess it’s the little arms and legs flailing about after the executioner penetrates the baby’s skull with an ice pick or something and starts to scramble that tiny brain around. Boy, that gets the spasmodic twitching and sudden reflexes really going full tilt. Until the baby’s dead. Fade to black.

Go ahead and link it.

 

[Aba Incieni]

It's a human being.

Is it?

Yes. It's science.

You sure it's a human being?

Yep. There is no other specie with it's own unique and individual human DNA.

So...you are saying this fetus: View attachment 200329 is a full fledged human being.

I'm saying it's a living human being. It has it's own unique and individual human DNA. There is nothing else in this world with it other than people.

PS Looks like a girl.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

We know who the supporters of trump's child sex trafficking are. You drooling trumpanzees have been carefully groomed to be totally on board with it.

Really bizzare stuff coming from the freak and queer side of the political spectrum.

 

[buttercup]

This is from the co-founder of NARAL and one of the biggest abortionists of all time.

 

[TNHarley]

View attachment 200305 like this one? This is a child?

It's a human being.

Is it?

Yes. It's science.

link

You want a link to prove women can only conceive humans?

I want a link that shows it is a FACT that fetuses are "human beings"

 

[bodecea]

Is it?

Yes. It's science.

You sure it's a human being?

Yep. There is no other specie with it's own unique and individual human DNA.

So...you are saying this fetus: View attachment 200329 is a full fledged human being.

I'm saying it's a living human being. It has it's own unique and individual human DNA. There is nothing else in this world with it other than people.

PS Looks like a girl.

Really? A girl, huh? Do tell. She will grow up to look like this....

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I'm saying it's a living human being. It has it's own unique and individual human DNA. There is nothing else in this world with it other than people.

PS Looks like a girl.

Yep. From CONCEPTION until DEATH it is genetically a HUMAN BEING. During that time it's just a question of age.

 

[Vastator]

I'm saying it's a living human being. It has it's own unique and individual human DNA. There is nothing else in this world with it other than people.

PS Looks like a girl.

Yep. From CONCEPTION until DEATH it is genetically a HUMAN BEING. During that time it's just a question of age.

And that’s a fact!

 

[TNHarley]

This is from the co-founder of NARAL and one of the biggest abortionists of all time.

Yea, a lot of people end up changing their minds. If fetuses are human beings is completely subjective, so that only makes sense.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Should women who have an abortion be charged with homicide?

If not, this post is a fail

Not if they think it's legal.

They think it's legal because they're taught in schools and by conspirators like seahag and care and the abortionists tell them it's the cool thing to do.

Throw the abortionists and all their employees in prison.
Round up the scumbags who encourage girls to get abortions.

The women are victimized by the offal who defend human trafficking, sex trafficking, and baby killing just as much as the babies are.

So...if you somehow thought killing a federal agent was legal, you wouldn't be charged with homicide? There's that lack of an education for you.

You don't understand the difference between justified and legal, I see.

Nobody thinks killing a federal agent is *legal*. The schools don't teach that particular stupidity.

But the schools and the media tell young victimized women over and over that baby killing is *legal*..then when those poor women are tricked into killing their babies, you pretend it's hypocritical for the law not to prosecute them...

It's just evidence of what little regard you have for the women you victimize..and how blatant you are about using them.

It's the same thing with trafficked kids. You traffic them..then claim that their misery is caused by the people who rescue them.

You people are culls and hopefully will be mowed down before too long.

How are women tricked into having an abortion??

For example, are you saying that if you were a rich politician and you had an affair that produced a child -- then you decided to use a slush fund to pay that person to have an abortion -- is that tricking her into having an abortion?

RNC fundraiser resigns after report of $1.6 million Playmate payoff

Yes. It's called exploitation and victimization.

No, its not..Its called not wanting to get caught cheating on your wife and having to give up your peachy job of being a GOP establishment guy..

No one forced her to have an abortion -- now China, that government forces mothers to have abortions as policy.

Forced Abortion Still Mandated Under China’s “Planned Birth” Laws - PRI

 

[TNHarley]

I'm saying it's a living human being. It has it's own unique and individual human DNA. There is nothing else in this world with it other than people.

PS Looks like a girl.

Yep. From CONCEPTION until DEATH it is genetically a HUMAN BEING. During that time it's just a question of age.

And that’s a fact!

Link

 

[Aba Incieni]

It's a human being.

Is it?

Yes. It's science.

link

You want a link to prove women can only conceive humans?

I want a link that shows it is a FACT that fetuses are "human beings"

Their human DNA makes them humans. We also use the term people.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

I'm saying it's a living human being. It has it's own unique and individual human DNA. There is nothing else in this world with it other than people.

PS Looks like a girl.

Yep. From CONCEPTION until DEATH it is genetically a HUMAN BEING. During that time it's just a question of age.

And that’s a fact!

What government agency is forcing women to have abortions??

If you know of any -- why have there been no charges filed and investigations launched?

Or maybe your attempt at deflecting from a bad policy is failing.

 

[buttercup]

It's a human being.

Is it?

Yes. It's science.

link

You want a link to prove women can only conceive humans?

I want a link that shows it is a FACT that fetuses are "human beings"

Um, hello? Did you miss my post on the previous page? Go back and look at post #110.

 

[TNHarley]

Seriously? THAT is your rebuttal?
If a mental adult thinks its a kid, does that mean it isnt an adult?
Those are human beings with physical deformities. Grow up.

There are also human beings in different stages of life.

A woman cannot get pregnant by any other specie. That is a human being in her womb.

So as soon as the sperm penetrates the egg, it is a human being?
Do you even biology bro?

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. It is a scientific fact that a new human being is formed at the moment of conception. There's no debating that, from a scientific standpoint the embryo/ fetus is a human being. You can argue that it's not a person, but you can't argue (without looking like an ignoramus) that the fetus is not a member of the human species.

Can you link to the consensus?

Here are some quotes, from medical textbooks. I'll bold the pertinent parts for you.

“Fertilization is the process by which male and female haploid gametes (sperm and egg) unite to produce a genetically distinct individual.”

Signorelli et al., Kinases, phosphatases and proteases during sperm capacitation, CELL TISSUE RES. 349(3):765 (Mar. 20, 2012)

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National Institutes of Health, Medline Plus Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary (2013), http://www.merriamwebster.com/...

The government’s own definition attests to the fact that life begins at fertilization. According to the National Institutes of Health, “fertilization” is the process of union of two gametes (i.e., ovum and sperm) “whereby the somatic chromosome number is restored and the development of a new individual is initiated.”
Steven Ertelt “Undisputed Scientific Fact: Human Life Begins at Conception, or Fertilization” 11/18/13

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“Human life begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete or sperm (spermatozoo developmentn) unites with a female gamete or oocyte (ovum) to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marked the beginning of each of us as a unique individual.” “A zygote is the beginning of a new human being (i.e., an embryo).”

Keith L. Moore, The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2003. pp. 16, 2.

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“It is the penetration of the ovum by a sperm and the resulting mingling of nuclear material each brings to the union that constitutes the initiation of the life of a new individual.”

Clark Edward and Corliss Patten’s Human Embryology, McGraw – Hill Inc., 30

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“Landrum B. Shettles, M.D., P.h.D. was first scientist to succeed at in vitro fertilization:
“The zygote is human life….there is one fact that no one can deny; Human beings begin at conception.”
From Landrum B. Shettles “Rites of Life: The Scientific Evidence for Life Before Birth” Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1983 p 40

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“Thus a new cell is formed from the union of a male and a female gamete. [sperm and egg cells] The cell, referred to as the zygote, contains a new combination of genetic material, resulting in an individual different from either parent and from anyone else in the world.”

Sally B Olds, et al., Obstetric Nursing (Menlo Park, California: Addison – Wesley publishing, 1980) P 136
Quoted in Eric Pastuszek. Is the Fetus Human? (Rockford, Illinois: Tan books And Publishers Inc., 1991)

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Keith L. Moore, Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2008. p. 2.

“[The zygote], formed by the union of an oocyte and a sperm, is the beginning of a new human being.”

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“The first cell of a new and unique human life begins existence at the moment of conception (fertilization) when one living sperm from the father joins with one living ovum from the mother. It is in this manner that human life passes from one generation to another. Given the appropriate environment and genetic composition, the single cell subsequently gives rise to trillions of specialized and integrated cells that compose the structures and functions of each individual human body. Every human being alive today and, as far as is known scientifically, every human being that ever existed, began his or her unique existence in this manner, i.e., as one cell. If this first cell or any subsequent configuration of cells perishes, the individual dies, ceasing to exist in matter as a living being. There are no known exceptions to this rule in the field of human biology.”

James Bopp, ed., Human Life and Health Care Ethics, vol. 2 (Frederick, MD: University Publications of America, 1985)

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Rand McNally, Atlas of the Body (New York: Rand McNally, 1980) 139, 144

“In fusing together, the male and female gametes produce a fertilized single cell, the zygote, which is the start of a new individual.”

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“….it is scientifically correct to say that human life begins at conception.”

Dr. Micheline Matthews-Roth, Harvard Medical School: Quoted by Public Affairs Council

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“The formation, maturation and meeting of a male and female sex cell are all preliminary to their actual union into a combined cell, or zygote, which definitely marks the beginning of a new individual. The penetration of the ovum by the spermatozoon, and the coming together and pooling of their respective nuclei, constitutes the process of fertilization.”

Leslie Brainerd Arey, “Developmental Anatomy” seventh edition space (Philadelphia: Saunders, 1974), 55

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Thibodeau, G.A., and Anthony, C.P., Structure and Function of the Body, 8th edition, St. Louis: Times Mirror/Mosby College Publishers, St. Louis, 1988. pages 409-419

“The science of the development of the individual before birth is called embryology. It is the story of miracles, describing the means by which a single microscopic cell is transformed into a complex human being. Genetically the zygote is complete. It represents a new single celled individual.”

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Carlson, Bruce M. Patten’s Foundations of Embryology. 6th edition. New York: McGraw-Hill, 1996, p. 3

“Almost all higher animals start their lives from a single cell, the fertilized ovum (zygote)… The time of fertilization represents the starting point in the life history, or ontogeny, of the individual.”

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Considine, Douglas (ed.). Van Nostrand’s Scientific Encyclopedia. 5th edition. New York: Van Nostrand Reinhold Company, 1976, p. 943

“Embryo: The developing individual between the union of the germ cells and the completion of the organs which characterize its body when it becomes a separate organism…. At the moment the sperm cell of the human male meets the ovum of the female and the union results in a fertilized ovum (zygote), A new life has begun. ”

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Lennart Nilsson A Child is Born: Completely Revised Edition (Dell Publishing Co.: New York) 1986

“but the whole story does not begin with delivery. The baby has existed for months before – at first signaling its presence only with small outer signs, later on as a somewhat foreign little being which has been growing and gradually affecting the lives of those close by…”

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Kaluger, G., and Kaluger, M., Human Development: The Span of Life, page 28-29, The C.V. Mosby Co., St. Louis, 1974

“In that fraction of a second when the chromosomes form pairs, [at conception] the sex of the new child will be determined, hereditary characteristics received from each parent will be set, and a new life will have begun.”

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Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition. Baltimore: Williams and Wilkins, 1975, p. 3

“The development of a human being begins with fertilization, a process by which two highly specialized cells, the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female, unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote.”

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Human Embryology, 3rd ed. Bradley M. Patten, (New York: McGraw Hill, 1968), 43.

“It is the penetration of the ovum by a spermatozoan and resultant mingling of the nuclear material each brings to the union that constitutes the culmination of the process of fertilization and marks the initiation of the life of a new individual."

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The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 6th ed. Keith L. Moore, Ph.D. & T.V.N. Persaud, Md., (Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1998), 2-18:

“[The Zygote] results from the union of an oocyte and a sperm. A zygote is the beginning of a new human being. Human development begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete or sperm … unites with a female gamete or oocyte … to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marks the beginning of each of us as a unique individual.”​

There are many more I could post, but there you go.

Cool, quotes from scientists.
Guess what? I can find hundreds of quotes from scientists that say there is no facts to this. There is no consensus either as it is still one of the most heavily debated subjects to this day.

 

[Brain357]

So... Would photos of these victims bolster people's belief in the left's new found soft spot for children?

Show clips of the grieving family and friends of these victims.

 

[TNHarley]

Is it?

Yes. It's science.

link

You want a link to prove women can only conceive humans?

I want a link that shows it is a FACT that fetuses are "human beings"

Um, hello? Did you miss my post on the previous page? Go back and look at post #110.

Just now seen it! lol