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From an online post by Cato Institute researcher and editor Chelsea German, Sept. 25:
What would life be like without exchange or trade?
Recently, a man decided to make a sandwich from scratch.
He grew the vegetables, gathered salt from seawater, milked a cow, turned the milk into cheese, pickled a cucumber in a jar, ground his own flour from wheat to make the bread, collected his own honey, and personally killed a chicken for its meat.
This month, he published the results of his endeavor in an enlightening video:
making a sandwich entirely by himself cost him 6 months of his life and set him back $1,500. . .
.
The inefficiency of making even something as humble as a sandwich by oneself,
without the benefits of market exchange, is simply mind-boggling.
There was a time when everyone grew their own food and made their own clothes.
It was a time of unimaginable poverty and labor without rest.
$1,500 Sandwich Illustrates How Exchange Raises Living Standards
So when you grossly ignorant people primarily FFOs that have no idea where the meat comes from
for the McDonald's chicken now comprehend WHY the concept of a business that exists because of the desire to earn a profit from selling a chicken sandwich has made Western civilization the envy of the
rest of the uncivilized world?
You people that continually bash capitalism, businesses, i.e. like Obama does, do you finally understand
why you are able to sit at a computer munching on a sandwich that cost less then $2.00 that took little or
no effort for you to eat?
Maybe for the first time you'll recognize that your current life style is totally dependent on that evil concept ...capitalism!!!
Make mine for about $10 hunting the game at wal-mart, the bread from the bread aisle, etc.I'm more efficient than this man.
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What a ridiculous study.
When people live self sufficiently they don't pickle one cucumber. They produce in quantity, which means they eat a sandwich everyday. Just likewe get to for working 60 years at some ccrazy obtuse garbage.
He's disparaging self sufficiency to justify his cosmopolitan existance which comes at the price of most people's slavery. If he had six months to do it, why didn't he start another sandwich on day two, giving him sandwich on day 6months and one day?You're too fucking stupid to understand the point of the article. You didn't make it from scratch.I just made a chicken sandwich from scratch. It took me 25seconds and cost under a dollar. I saved in plane fare by trading for the salt. Trading happened long before planes were invented and its cheaper and less time consuming.
This guy is a prick.
Well you might have to get local shrimp but yes, I could grow all that stuffWhat a ridiculous study.
When people live self sufficiently they don't pickle one cucumber. They produce in quantity, which means they eat a sandwich everyday. Just likewe get to for working 60 years at some ccrazy obtuse garbage.
Go look in your pantry. How long do you suppose it would take to make all the items in it? A lot of them you couldn't even make yourself. I have so frozen shrimp in my freezer that were raised in Vietnam. How would I do that myself? Corn? Filet Mignon? Asparagus? Mushrooms? Horseradish? Soy Sauce? Mustard?
Do you really think you could do all that yourself? If you do, then you're just a damn imbecile who refuses to admit the simple truth.
He's disparaging self sufficiency to justify his cosmopolitan existance which comes at the price of most people's slavery. If he had six months to do it, why didn't he start another sandwich on day two, giving him sandwich on day 6months and one day?You're too fucking stupid to understand the point of the article. You didn't make it from scratch.I just made a chicken sandwich from scratch. It took me 25seconds and cost under a dollar. I saved in plane fare by trading for the salt. Trading happened long before planes were invented and its cheaper and less time consuming.
This guy is a prick.
People used to trade and make in bulk etc.
It's a totally moronic study, conducted by an evident beardster.
Well you might have to get local shrimp but yes, I could grow all that stuffWhat a ridiculous study.
When people live self sufficiently they don't pickle one cucumber. They produce in quantity, which means they eat a sandwich everyday. Just likewe get to for working 60 years at some ccrazy obtuse garbage.
Go look in your pantry. How long do you suppose it would take to make all the items in it? A lot of them you couldn't even make yourself. I have so frozen shrimp in my freezer that were raised in Vietnam. How would I do that myself? Corn? Filet Mignon? Asparagus? Mushrooms? Horseradish? Soy Sauce? Mustard?
Do you really think you could do all that yourself? If you do, then you're just a damn imbecile who refuses to admit the simple truth.
and that's because I'm not a moron like this flamboyant beardster who got a plane to be a dick. That's all that study reveals, that he is a collosal dick.
I have a little farm. I make and grow lots of stuff.Well you might have to get local shrimp but yes, I could grow all that stuffWhat a ridiculous study.
When people live self sufficiently they don't pickle one cucumber. They produce in quantity, which means they eat a sandwich everyday. Just likewe get to for working 60 years at some ccrazy obtuse garbage.
Go look in your pantry. How long do you suppose it would take to make all the items in it? A lot of them you couldn't even make yourself. I have so frozen shrimp in my freezer that were raised in Vietnam. How would I do that myself? Corn? Filet Mignon? Asparagus? Mushrooms? Horseradish? Soy Sauce? Mustard?
Do you really think you could do all that yourself? If you do, then you're just a damn imbecile who refuses to admit the simple truth.
and that's because I'm not a moron like this flamboyant beardster who got a plane to be a dick. That's all that study reveals, that he is a collosal dick.
You're a moron who's a waist of bandwidth.
Arguing with morons is about as fun as watching paint dry.
BTW, if it's so easy, then why aren't you making all this stuff for yourself?
Who knows! That chicken sandwich I made had 2 slices of cheddar cheese, lettuce, tomato, onion, buffalo sauce, blue cheese chunks, on toasted French bread, and toasted in an oven.I bought a whole roasted chicken for $5 for dinner tonight. It was fucking awesomeyou might gripe about a 1500 dollar chicken sandwich
but think about the chicken
he gave his life
Even better...
Think of how much time and effort our ancestors went through for 3 meals a day
THAT WAS THE POINT! I grew up as a kid working with my brother and sisters in the 4 gardens my Dad co-oped so we could have food to eat!
We raised rabbits and chickens for food.
AND YES we worked hard to EAT!
Today as you point out less then 5% of our daily existence is required to make/eat food.
the other 95% WE CAN work to earn money to buy our McDonalds!
But it took the efficiency of the capitalistic motivation i.e. profit to make a hamburger that sells today for $2.00!![]()
But who raised the chicken? Who butchered the chicken and sent the chicken to the store? Who roasted the chicken?
Do you really understand the point here?
All those steps so you could get a $5 chicken and I am confident that idiots like you have NO idea when you bitch and moan about those evil capitalist,money
profit corporations how through the hundreds of years and trillions of dollars it is possible for you to in less then 15 minutes hand over your $5.00 and
drive home and begin eating that chicken!
Those idiots that complain about money grubbing evil corporations WAKE UP!
These are the BEST times and with all the continued rules and regulations that this Anti-capitalist, Anti-business administration is laying down,
there will NOT be the choices we have much less the opportunity buy a $5 chicken already roasted!
I have a little farm. I make and grow lots of stuff.Well you might have to get local shrimp but yes, I could grow all that stuffWhat a ridiculous study.
When people live self sufficiently they don't pickle one cucumber. They produce in quantity, which means they eat a sandwich everyday. Just likewe get to for working 60 years at some ccrazy obtuse garbage.
Go look in your pantry. How long do you suppose it would take to make all t he items in it? A lot of them you couldn't even make yourself. I have so frozen shrimp in my freezer that were raised in Vietnam. How would I do that myself? Corn? Filet Mignon? Asparagus? Mushrooms? Horseradish? Soy Sauce? Mustard?
Do you really think you could do all that yourself? If you do, then you're just a damn imbecile who refuses to admit the simple truth.
and that's because I'm not a moron like this flamboyant beardster who got a plane to be a dick. That's all that study reveals, that he is a collosal dick.
You're a moron who's a waist of bandwidth.
Arguing with morons is about as fun as watching paint dry.
BTW, if it's so easy, then why aren't you making all this stuff for yourself?
Who knows! That chicken sandwich I made had 2 slices of cheddar cheese, lettuce, tomato, onion, buffalo sauce, blue cheese chunks, on toasted French bread, and toasted in an oven.I bought a whole roasted chicken for $5 for dinner tonight. It was fucking awesomeyou might gripe about a 1500 dollar chicken sandwich
but think about the chicken
he gave his life
Even better...
Think of how much time and effort our ancestors went through for 3 meals a day
THAT WAS THE POINT! I grew up as a kid working with my brother and sisters in the 4 gardens my Dad co-oped so we could have food to eat!
We raised rabbits and chickens for food.
AND YES we worked hard to EAT!
Today as you point out less then 5% of our daily existence is required to make/eat food.
the other 95% WE CAN work to earn money to buy our McDonalds!
But it took the efficiency of the capitalistic motivation i.e. profit to make a hamburger that sells today for $2.00!![]()
But who raised the chicken? Who butchered the chicken and sent the chicken to the store? Who roasted the chicken?
Do you really understand the point here?
All those steps so you could get a $5 chicken and I am confident that idiots like you have NO idea when you bitch and moan about those evil capitalist,money
profit corporations how through the hundreds of years and trillions of dollars it is possible for you to in less then 15 minutes hand over your $5.00 and
drive home and begin eating that chicken!
Those idiots that complain about money grubbing evil corporations WAKE UP!
These are the BEST times and with all the continued rules and regulations that this Anti-capitalist, Anti-business administration is laying down,
there will NOT be the choices we have much less the opportunity buy a $5 chicken already roasted!
That shit was delicious![]()
Ah this is how they pay CEO's a salary in one hour that a worker that actually MAKES the sandwich makes in a year....impressive!From an online post by Cato Institute researcher and editor Chelsea German, Sept. 25:
What would life be like without exchange or trade?
Recently, a man decided to make a sandwich from scratch.
He grew the vegetables, gathered salt from seawater, milked a cow, turned the milk into cheese, pickled a cucumber in a jar, ground his own flour from wheat to make the bread, collected his own honey, and personally killed a chicken for its meat.
This month, he published the results of his endeavor in an enlightening video:
making a sandwich entirely by himself cost him 6 months of his life and set him back $1,500. . .
.
The inefficiency of making even something as humble as a sandwich by oneself,
without the benefits of market exchange, is simply mind-boggling.
There was a time when everyone grew their own food and made their own clothes.
It was a time of unimaginable poverty and labor without rest.
$1,500 Sandwich Illustrates How Exchange Raises Living Standards
So when you grossly ignorant people primarily FFOs that have no idea where the meat comes from
for the McDonald's chicken now comprehend WHY the concept of a business that exists because of the desire to earn a profit from selling a chicken sandwich has made Western civilization the envy of the
rest of the uncivilized world?
You people that continually bash capitalism, businesses, i.e. like Obama does, do you finally understand
why you are able to sit at a computer munching on a sandwich that cost less then $2.00 that took little or
no effort for you to eat?
Maybe for the first time you'll recognize that your current life style is totally dependent on that evil concept ...capitalism!!!
No. I hate beardsters who want to justify their unproductive careers by making a dumb study that ignores reality.h post: 12424549 said:He's disparaging self sufficiency to justify his cosmopolitan existance which comes at the price of most people's slavery. If he had six months to do it, why didn't he start another sandwich on day two, giving him sandwich on day 6months and one day?You're too fucking stupid to understand the point of the article. You didn't make it from scratch.I just made a chicken sandwich from scratch. It took me 25seconds and cost under a dollar. I saved in plane fare by trading for the salt. Trading happened long before planes were invented and its cheaper and less time consuming.
This guy is a prick.
People used to trade and make in bulk etc.
It's a totally moronic study, conducted by an evident beardster.
And I suppose YOU are therefore an anti-capitalist. Big business hater. Think all businesses are out for a evil buck?
RIGHT?
Because you are missing the point of the guy's study!
Idiots who have NO idea how that McDonald's hamburger comes to existence. YET these idiots decry McDonalds paying $8.00 an hour!
These same idiots that don't get this concept of what the guy was pointing out because they like Obama hate businesses! Hate capitalism!
Do YOU???
Ah this is how they pay CEO's a salary in one hour that a worker that actually MAKES the sandwich makes in a year....impressive!From an online post by Cato Institute researcher and editor Chelsea German, Sept. 25:
What would life be like without exchange or trade?
Recently, a man decided to make a sandwich from scratch.
He grew the vegetables, gathered salt from seawater, milked a cow, turned the milk into cheese, pickled a cucumber in a jar, ground his own flour from wheat to make the bread, collected his own honey, and personally killed a chicken for its meat.
This month, he published the results of his endeavor in an enlightening video:
making a sandwich entirely by himself cost him 6 months of his life and set him back $1,500. . .
.
The inefficiency of making even something as humble as a sandwich by oneself,
without the benefits of market exchange, is simply mind-boggling.
There was a time when everyone grew their own food and made their own clothes.
It was a time of unimaginable poverty and labor without rest.
$1,500 Sandwich Illustrates How Exchange Raises Living Standards
So when you grossly ignorant people primarily FFOs that have no idea where the meat comes from
for the McDonald's chicken now comprehend WHY the concept of a business that exists because of the desire to earn a profit from selling a chicken sandwich has made Western civilization the envy of the
rest of the uncivilized world?
You people that continually bash capitalism, businesses, i.e. like Obama does, do you finally understand
why you are able to sit at a computer munching on a sandwich that cost less then $2.00 that took little or
no effort for you to eat?
Maybe for the first time you'll recognize that your current life style is totally dependent on that evil concept ...capitalism!!!
Well you might have to get local shrimp but yes, I could grow all that stuffWhat a ridiculous study.
When people live self sufficiently they don't pickle one cucumber. They produce in quantity, which means they eat a sandwich everyday. Just likewe get to for working 60 years at some ccrazy obtuse garbage.
Go look in your pantry. How long do you suppose it would take to make all the items in it? A lot of them you couldn't even make yourself. I have so frozen shrimp in my freezer that were raised in Vietnam. How would I do that myself? Corn? Filet Mignon? Asparagus? Mushrooms? Horseradish? Soy Sauce? Mustard?
Do you really think you could do all that yourself? If you do, then you're just a damn imbecile who refuses to admit the simple truth.
and that's because I'm not a moron like this flamboyant beardster who got a plane to be a dick. That's all that study reveals, that he is a collosal dick.
What have red dotted lines got to do with the price of yeast?Well you might have to get local shrimp but yes, I could grow all that stuffWhat a ridiculous study.
When people live self sufficiently they don't pickle one cucumber. They produce in quantity, which means they eat a sandwich everyday. Just likewe get to for working 60 years at some ccrazy obtuse garbage.
Go look in your pantry. How long do you suppose it would take to make all the items in it? A lot of them you couldn't even make yourself. I have so frozen shrimp in my freezer that were raised in Vietnam. How would I do that myself? Corn? Filet Mignon? Asparagus? Mushrooms? Horseradish? Soy Sauce? Mustard?
Do you really think you could do all that yourself? If you do, then you're just a damn imbecile who refuses to admit the simple truth.
and that's because I'm not a moron like this flamboyant beardster who got a plane to be a dick. That's all that study reveals, that he is a collosal dick.
What the hell is a "collosal " dick?
Obviously YOU couldn't grow shit because little details like the red dotted underline means nothing to you!
See when idiots like you make stupid braggadocio comments and then can't even pay attention that to me means YOU'D be an absolute failure and growing
anything! It is the "details" that make the difference and idiots like you don't have time for "details",i.e. red dotted underline!
Since you don't seemingly care about sloppy grammar, you definitely wouldn't care about a screwed ugly weed infested garden!
Putz!
Ah this is how they pay CEO's a salary in one hour that a worker that actually MAKES the sandwich makes in a year....impressive!From an online post by Cato Institute researcher and editor Chelsea German, Sept. 25:
What would life be like without exchange or trade?
Recently, a man decided to make a sandwich from scratch.
He grew the vegetables, gathered salt from seawater, milked a cow, turned the milk into cheese, pickled a cucumber in a jar, ground his own flour from wheat to make the bread, collected his own honey, and personally killed a chicken for its meat.
This month, he published the results of his endeavor in an enlightening video:
making a sandwich entirely by himself cost him 6 months of his life and set him back $1,500. . .
.
The inefficiency of making even something as humble as a sandwich by oneself,
without the benefits of market exchange, is simply mind-boggling.
There was a time when everyone grew their own food and made their own clothes.
It was a time of unimaginable poverty and labor without rest.
$1,500 Sandwich Illustrates How Exchange Raises Living Standards
So when you grossly ignorant people primarily FFOs that have no idea where the meat comes from
for the McDonald's chicken now comprehend WHY the concept of a business that exists because of the desire to earn a profit from selling a chicken sandwich has made Western civilization the envy of the
rest of the uncivilized world?
You people that continually bash capitalism, businesses, i.e. like Obama does, do you finally understand
why you are able to sit at a computer munching on a sandwich that cost less then $2.00 that took little or
no effort for you to eat?
Maybe for the first time you'll recognize that your current life style is totally dependent on that evil concept ...capitalism!!!
Who knows! That chicken sandwich I made had 2 slices of cheddar cheese, lettuce, tomato, onion, buffalo sauce, blue cheese chunks, on toasted French bread, and toasted in an oven.I bought a whole roasted chicken for $5 for dinner tonight. It was fucking awesomeEven better...
Think of how much time and effort our ancestors went through for 3 meals a day
THAT WAS THE POINT! I grew up as a kid working with my brother and sisters in the 4 gardens my Dad co-oped so we could have food to eat!
We raised rabbits and chickens for food.
AND YES we worked hard to EAT!
Today as you point out less then 5% of our daily existence is required to make/eat food.
the other 95% WE CAN work to earn money to buy our McDonalds!
But it took the efficiency of the capitalistic motivation i.e. profit to make a hamburger that sells today for $2.00!![]()
But who raised the chicken? Who butchered the chicken and sent the chicken to the store? Who roasted the chicken?
Do you really understand the point here?
All those steps so you could get a $5 chicken and I am confident that idiots like you have NO idea when you bitch and moan about those evil capitalist,money
profit corporations how through the hundreds of years and trillions of dollars it is possible for you to in less then 15 minutes hand over your $5.00 and
drive home and begin eating that chicken!
Those idiots that complain about money grubbing evil corporations WAKE UP!
These are the BEST times and with all the continued rules and regulations that this Anti-capitalist, Anti-business administration is laying down,
there will NOT be the choices we have much less the opportunity buy a $5 chicken already roasted!
That shit was delicious![]()
What was that supposed to prove?
Its not a tractor farm. I use solar panels for fridge and computer. Geez, it's not rocket science.I have a little farm. I make and grow lots of stuff.Well you might have to get local shrimp but yes, I could grow all that stuffWhat a ridiculous study.
When people live self sufficiently they don't pickle one cucumber. They produce in quantity, which means they eat a sandwich everyday. Just likewe get to for working 60 years at some ccrazy obtuse garbage.
Go look in your pantry. How long do you suppose it would take to make all t he items in it? A lot of them you couldn't even make yourself. I have so frozen shrimp in my freezer that were raised in Vietnam. How would I do that myself? Corn? Filet Mignon? Asparagus? Mushrooms? Horseradish? Soy Sauce? Mustard?
Do you really think you could do all that yourself? If you do, then you're just a damn imbecile who refuses to admit the simple truth.
and that's because I'm not a moron like this flamboyant beardster who got a plane to be a dick. That's all that study reveals, that he is a collosal dick.
You're a moron who's a waist of bandwidth.
Arguing with morons is about as fun as watching paint dry.
BTW, if it's so easy, then why aren't you making all this stuff for yourself?
Do you think everyone can have their own farm? How do you grow a tractor on a farm? Television? Refrigerator? Computer?
What have red dotted lines got to do with the price of yeast?Well you might have to get local shrimp but yes, I could grow all that stuffWhat a ridiculous study.
When people live self sufficiently they don't pickle one cucumber. They produce in quantity, which means they eat a sandwich everyday. Just likewe get to for working 60 years at some ccrazy obtuse garbage.
Go look in your pantry. How long do you suppose it would take to make all the items in it? A lot of them you couldn't even make yourself. I have so frozen shrimp in my freezer that were raised in Vietnam. How would I do that myself? Corn? Filet Mignon? Asparagus? Mushrooms? Horseradish? Soy Sauce? Mustard?
Do you really think you could do all that yourself? If you do, then you're just a damn imbecile who refuses to admit the simple truth.
and that's because I'm not a moron like this flamboyant beardster who got a plane to be a dick. That's all that study reveals, that he is a collosal dick.
What the hell is a "collosal " dick?
Obviously YOU couldn't grow shit because little details like the red dotted underline means nothing to you!
See when idiots like you make stupid braggadocio comments and then can't even pay attention that to me means YOU'D be an absolute failure and growing
anything! It is the "details" that make the difference and idiots like you don't have time for "details",i.e. red dotted underline!
Since you don't seemingly care about sloppy grammar, you definitely wouldn't care about a screwed ugly weed infested garden!
Putz!