Would you support a presidential candidate who held that biblical law superceded the Constitution?

Re another thread here regarding a presidential candidate that held a particular religion superceded the Constitution. My own view is there is no religion that supercedes the Constitution.
I agree.

Of course, many Christian religious mores are matched by language of the Constitution. Don't murder, don't steal, don't lie etc. It turns out that people who adhere to Christian religions, are already more than halfway to supporting the Constitution - a far better proportion than is found in adherents to Sharia law.

How about people who believe that the religion of Modern Liberalism should supersede the Constitution? They support taxation to transfer funds directly to various special interest groups (forbidden by the Const), and govt getting involved in workplace conditions, land zoning, local environmental conditions, medical insurance, retirement funding, unemployment compensation in various forms, and even the size of our toilets and the kinds of light bulbs we can buy - all functions forbidden to the Fed govt by the Constitution, and reserved instead to the States and the People.

Modern liberalism is a religion, of course: There is no proof that it works (and plenty of evidence to show it doesn't), it is perceived as different things by different people in different places, it requires absolute faith and devotion to its ideals without question, and seeks to destroy anyone who doesn't unquestioningly obey and proselytize it requirements. Its devotees dare not mention its name, and regularly castigate anyone who applied ANY spoken name to it ("We're NOT socialists! We're NOT communists! Don't you DARE call us that! We're NOT,...." etc.). And they can tolerate no other religion except Modern Liberalism.

Does your view that "there is no religion that supercedes[sic] the Constitution", include the religion of Modern Liberalism? What do you propose we should to with the people already in office, who are clearly fanatical devotees to that religion and regularly violate the Constitution to make laws implementing their religion in its place?

Sorry, if you want a thread where you get to define what is a religion and isn't try the Religion forum.

Its an easy question. Don't try to rewrite it or toss out Red Herrings or Strawmen. Just answer the question or click the x and move on.
 
Anybody who says that has about 6 supporters, so your question is moot. It is like giving citizenship to refugees from alpha Venturi or Beetlgues.

There's certainly more people in America by many, many multitudes who would believe that than who believe the same for sharia law.
The way he posed the question is dishonest and dumb. Sure, there are lots of folks who believe the constitution is secondary to their view of the holy writ. But they also know there are 25,000 versions of what holy writ means in america. That is among the christians. There are 6 million jews, so there are 10 million views among them. So we get along and go along.

There is no monolithic view that is remotely a hazard.
 
Modern liberalism is a religion, of course: Its devotees dare not mention its name, and regularly castigate anyone who applied ANY spoken name to it ("We're NOT socialists! We're NOT communists! Don't you DARE call us that! We're NOT....", etc.).
IsaacNewton said:
Sorry, if you want a thread where you get to define what is a religion and isn't try the Religion forum.
See?

The OP opens a thread about religion in government, and when somebody points one out one he didn't expect, he tries to get rid of him rather than discuss what he said. Because he CAN'T discuss it without admitting that he and his ilk are the problem.

Just answer the question.
I did.

Didn't even read the post, did we? :rolleyes-41:
 
This was already asked in a thread...was it you?


it was him, lassie------Isaac Newton is not really much of name for him. Isaac Newton was brilliant-----he invented calculus-------that bane to my existence ---freshman year in college--------but eventually it got REALLY INTERESTING----
(that was second semester when I finally CAUGHT ON) Sir Isaac Newton
was so damned religious that he thought that the Hebrew scriptures held the
SECRETS OF THE UNIVERSE IN CODE------he was literate in Hebrew and
searched out those "secrets" all of his life---------well, whatever "secrets" he found------would have ----in his mind-------REIGNED SUPREME (of course----we have to
remember that an apple fell on his head
 
Re another thread here regarding a presidential candidate that held a particular religion superceded the Constitution. My own view is there is no religion that supercedes the Constitution.
I agree.

Of course, many Christian religious mores are matched by language of the Constitution. Don't murder, don't steal, don't lie etc. It turns out that people who adhere to Christian religions, are already more than halfway to supporting the Constitution - a far better proportion than is found in adherents to Sharia law.

How about people who believe that the religion of Modern Liberalism should supersede the Constitution? They support taxation to transfer funds directly to various special interest groups (forbidden by the Const), and govt getting involved in workplace conditions, land zoning, local environmental conditions, medical insurance, retirement funding, unemployment compensation in various forms, and even the size of our toilets and the kinds of light bulbs we can buy - all functions forbidden to the Fed govt by the Constitution, and reserved instead to the States and the People.

Modern liberalism is a religion, of course: There is no proof that it works (and plenty of evidence to show it doesn't), it is perceived as different things by different people in different places, it requires absolute faith and devotion to its ideals without question, and seeks to destroy anyone who doesn't unquestioningly obey and proselytize it requirements. Its devotees dare not mention its name, and regularly castigate anyone who applied ANY spoken name to it ("We're NOT socialists! We're NOT communists! Don't you DARE call us that! We're NOT....", etc.). And they can tolerate no other religion except Modern Liberalism. They regard anyone who disagrees, as not only wrong but evil.

Does your view that "there is no religion that supercedes[sic] the Constitution", include the religion of Modern Liberalism? What do you propose we should to with the people already in office, who are clearly fanatical devotees to that religion and regularly violate the Constitution to make laws implementing their religion in its place?
 
Its a simple question, if you can't answer move along to the flamer forum.

Thanks for playing.
Dip shit the constitution already follows the bible ..... unlike the Quran

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The constitution was influenced by the Iroquois Nation as well.

and thor---------and BEOWULF ------and Zarathustra

Do you have a link for those? I have a link to the congressional resolution specifying my claim.

Iroquois Confederacy is foundation of United States Constitution

"H. Con. Res. 331 was passed in October 1988 to acknowledge the contribution of the Iroquois Confederacy of Nations to the development of the United States Constitution, and to reaffirm the continuing government-to-government relationship between Indian tribes and the United States established in the Constitution.

Congress, on the occasion of the 200th anniversary of the signing of the United States Constitution, "acknowledged the historical debt which this Republic of the United States of America owes to the Iroquois Confederacy and other Indian Nations for their demonstration of enlightened, democratic principles of government and their example of a free association of independent Indian Nations."
 
Its a simple question, if you can't answer move along to the flamer forum.

Thanks for playing.
Dip shit the constitution already follows the bible ..... unlike the Quran

Sent from my SM-G386T1 using Tapatalk
The constitution was influenced by the Iroquois Nation as well.

and thor---------and BEOWULF ------and Zarathustra

Do you have a link for those? I have a link to the congressional resolution specifying my claim.

Iroquois Confederacy is foundation of United States Constitution

"H. Con. Res. 331 was passed in October 1988 to acknowledge the contribution of the Iroquois Confederacy of Nations to the development of the United States Constitution, and to reaffirm the continuing government-to-government relationship between Indian tribes and the United States established in the Constitution.

Congress, on the occasion of the 200th anniversary of the signing of the United States Constitution, "acknowledged the historical debt which this Republic of the United States of America owes to the Iroquois Confederacy and other Indian Nations for their demonstration of enlightened, democratic principles of government and their example of a free association of independent Indian Nations."

diplomatic sophistry-------kinda like Obama's THE USA IS AN ISLMAMIC NATION
 
Its a simple question, if you can't answer move along to the flamer forum.

Thanks for playing.
Dip shit the constitution already follows the bible ..... unlike the Quran

Sent from my SM-G386T1 using Tapatalk
The constitution was influenced by the Iroquois Nation as well.

and thor---------and BEOWULF ------and Zarathustra

Do you have a link for those? I have a link to the congressional resolution specifying my claim.

Iroquois Confederacy is foundation of United States Constitution

"H. Con. Res. 331 was passed in October 1988 to acknowledge the contribution of the Iroquois Confederacy of Nations to the development of the United States Constitution, and to reaffirm the continuing government-to-government relationship between Indian tribes and the United States established in the Constitution.

Congress, on the occasion of the 200th anniversary of the signing of the United States Constitution, "acknowledged the historical debt which this Republic of the United States of America owes to the Iroquois Confederacy and other Indian Nations for their demonstration of enlightened, democratic principles of government and their example of a free association of independent Indian Nations."

diplomatic sophistry-------kinda like Obama's THE USA IS AN ISLMAMIC NATION
Does that mean you feel stupid because you didnt know there was congressional resolution stating that fact? :itsok:
 
What should we do about people presently in office, who keep making laws implementing their own religion (Modern Liberalism) in place to the U.S. Constitution?
 
What should we do about people presently in office, who keep making laws implementing their own religion (Modern Liberalism) in place to the U.S. Constitution?
Liberalism (modern or not) is not a recognized religion. The only thing you can do about people presently in office is to vote them out or impeach them.
 
Modern liberalism is a religion, of course: Its devotees dare not mention its name, and regularly castigate anyone who applied ANY spoken name to it ("We're NOT socialists! We're NOT communists! Don't you DARE call us that! We're NOT....", etc.).
IsaacNewton said:
Sorry, if you want a thread where you get to define what is a religion and isn't try the Religion forum.
See?

The OP opens a thread about religion in government, and when somebody points one out one he didn't expect, he tries to get rid of him rather than discuss what he said. Because he CAN'T discuss it without admitting that he and his ilk are the problem.

Just answer the question.
I did.

Didn't even read the post, did we? :rolleyes-41:

You are so naïve and dishonest. You want to change the subject because you can't answer the question.

Fine, you can't answer it, move along sport.
 
Its a simple question, if you can't answer move along to the flamer forum.

Thanks for playing.
Dip shit the constitution already follows the bible ..... unlike the Quran

Sent from my SM-G386T1 using Tapatalk
The constitution was influenced by the Iroquois Nation as well.

and thor---------and BEOWULF ------and Zarathustra

Do you have a link for those? I have a link to the congressional resolution specifying my claim.

Iroquois Confederacy is foundation of United States Constitution

"H. Con. Res. 331 was passed in October 1988 to acknowledge the contribution of the Iroquois Confederacy of Nations to the development of the United States Constitution, and to reaffirm the continuing government-to-government relationship between Indian tribes and the United States established in the Constitution.

Congress, on the occasion of the 200th anniversary of the signing of the United States Constitution, "acknowledged the historical debt which this Republic of the United States of America owes to the Iroquois Confederacy and other Indian Nations for their demonstration of enlightened, democratic principles of government and their example of a free association of independent Indian Nations."

diplomatic sophistry-------kinda like Obama's THE USA IS AN ISLMAMIC NATION

"Islmamic nation" huh?

:alcoholic:
 
Dip shit the constitution already follows the bible ..... unlike the Quran

Sent from my SM-G386T1 using Tapatalk
The constitution was influenced by the Iroquois Nation as well.

and thor---------and BEOWULF ------and Zarathustra

Do you have a link for those? I have a link to the congressional resolution specifying my claim.

Iroquois Confederacy is foundation of United States Constitution

"H. Con. Res. 331 was passed in October 1988 to acknowledge the contribution of the Iroquois Confederacy of Nations to the development of the United States Constitution, and to reaffirm the continuing government-to-government relationship between Indian tribes and the United States established in the Constitution.

Congress, on the occasion of the 200th anniversary of the signing of the United States Constitution, "acknowledged the historical debt which this Republic of the United States of America owes to the Iroquois Confederacy and other Indian Nations for their demonstration of enlightened, democratic principles of government and their example of a free association of independent Indian Nations."

diplomatic sophistry-------kinda like Obama's THE USA IS AN ISLMAMIC NATION

"Islmamic nation" huh?

:alcoholic:
You can tell she was emotionally traumatized by the congressional resolution. She was so shaken she couldnt spell correctly. :biggrin:
 
The constitution was influenced by the Iroquois Nation as well.

and thor---------and BEOWULF ------and Zarathustra

Do you have a link for those? I have a link to the congressional resolution specifying my claim.

Iroquois Confederacy is foundation of United States Constitution

"H. Con. Res. 331 was passed in October 1988 to acknowledge the contribution of the Iroquois Confederacy of Nations to the development of the United States Constitution, and to reaffirm the continuing government-to-government relationship between Indian tribes and the United States established in the Constitution.

Congress, on the occasion of the 200th anniversary of the signing of the United States Constitution, "acknowledged the historical debt which this Republic of the United States of America owes to the Iroquois Confederacy and other Indian Nations for their demonstration of enlightened, democratic principles of government and their example of a free association of independent Indian Nations."

diplomatic sophistry-------kinda like Obama's THE USA IS AN ISLMAMIC NATION

"Islmamic nation" huh?

:alcoholic:
You can tell she was emotionally traumatized by the congressional resolution. She was so shaken she couldnt spell correctly. :biggrin:

asclepias is so DESPERATE that she GRASPS at a typo like a drowning
man grasps at a straw
 

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