WW3 fears as Chinese state media reveals ‘three-stage battle plan’ to invade Taiwan as US stages war games in Pacific

[TheGreenHornet]

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

You seem not to realize how China is rapidly increasing its military capabilities.

China's growing firepower raises question: could U.S. defend Taiwan?

In war games, China often wins, and U.S. warships and aircraft are kept at bay.

www.nbcnews.com

Doesn‘t matter

Taiwan is an island and a Naval Invasion would be needed.
Taiwan has subs, mines, missiles,modern aircraft to repel an invasion

Even without the US Navy stepping in

Taiwan could not hold off china for 1 hour. You are deluded into thinking that china would not launch or drop nukes.

Really?
You underestimate what modern military equipment can do to Chinese invasion forces

China can’t bomb Taiwan into submission. Taiwan is prepared for it.

Landing forces by air and sea will face a barrage of defensive missiles and mines

Chinese ships will just be targets

China would not risk US retaliation if they bring in nukes

An evenly sprinkled application of tactical nukes will flatten Taiwan in less than six hours leaving little or nothing that can respond to anything at all.....think they won't do it? I think they would.

JO

You are right....if they think that is the only way to do it....they will do that or whatever it takes.....as of right now they are trying to convince America that they should not intervene....that it would be suicide to do so.

Their main goal as of now is to take control of Taiwan through relatively peaceful means.....I think they will be able to achieve that.

How is Taiwan going to stop an incoming nuke,

Easy
By the US assuring China that if they were to Nuke Taiwan, we will retaliate

Yes....you are correct....now who is going to push the red button dude? It sure as hell is not going to be some rainbow colored lizard lady....

JO

Another question....who controls the nuclear football? Even the democrats are not so stupid as to allow biden to do that

Thus........What it comes down to now is that we ----despite having a huge nuclear arsenal.... have no credibility....aka...China knows full well the biden regime would not authorize the use of Nuclear Weapons no matter what they do....but they also know that the Republicans might return...hence they will act quickly in regards to Taiwan...first they will negotiate....if not successful...they will act militarily.

Wrong again

Biden has made it clear he will support our military alliances.
Something Trump refused to do
Maybe we will…maybe we won’t.

Biden is a serial liar to begin with.....anyone that believes anything he says is further gone than biden.

To be a viable nuclear power....you not only have to have nuclear weapons but you must be prepared to use them and use them very quickly.

China knows full well biden is not capable of doing anything quickly.....they know biden hthe as huge problems making decisions....especially fast decisions.

Where have you been the last 70 years
The US has ALWAYs made it clear we will retaliate

Retaliate means you need following conditions:

1.) You need to be alive
2.) You need to have been fast enough to avoid being crippled in a decapitation strike
3.) When the " Give peace a chance " protestors show up to object self defense you use refurbished Gatling guns to explain it to them.

You live in a fantasy world
I don’t debate fantasies

Says the buffoon that works for pennies

How much is he paid per post?

 

[TheGreenHornet]

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

Can you put me in touch with your drug dealer as you get really good stuff?


A small island nation beats Red Communist China?

I guess you are covering for your beloved XI.

So, in your view…..the big guy easily beats the little guy

Reality is different. Invading an Island Fortress is not easy. Germany tried to defeat England with just bombing. Because they lacked the Naval landing capability….they failed

Taiwan has done nothing but prepare for a Chinese invasion for 70 years.
They have bunkers and Civil Defense to withstand bombing
They have a modern Air Force, surface to air missiles, anti ship missiles, smart mines, submarines and an Army ready to repel invaders.
They also have the US Navy at their disposal

Ready to explain how you think China will “win”??

The Red Chinese are not Germany cupcake.
This is not 1940.

Air and sea blockade.


Much larger forces.

They face the same challenges in attacking an Island Fortress that Germany faced. In 1940, Germany was the most powerful Army in the world. They had the best Air Force. All observers said England didn’t stand a chance.

Blockade will face anti-ship missiles and the US Navy

Having a million plus Army does you no good if you can’t land them

Your thinking is stuck in the past and even there you do not know your history.

If you even casually observe the pubic plan put forth by China regarding their alledged plan of action you will see how vulnurable Taiwan is....not even to mention their plan would entail much more than what they have presented.

Anyone with much knowledge of modern military methods and capabilities understands Taiwan cannot stand up to China....more importatly even Taiwan knows that.

So what it really comes down to is will the U.S. gurantee Taiwan and China that we will defend Taiwan?

As one Chinese General said....."would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to try and defend Taiwan"?

I don't think so.

Still haven’t seen their plan
It was not in the OP

Summarize it

Their alleged plan or the plan they are presenting for public consumption is in the first post.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

As one Chinese General said....."would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to try and defend Taiwan"?

That is how mutually assured destruction works

Would China sacrifice Beijing just to take Taiwan

First of all for the madd doctrine to work both parties must beieve the other is willing to launch a nuclear attack.

Now if China launches a nuclear attack on America I think even biden would probably retaliate but he would not be fast enough to do it effectively.

Secondly we do not even have a defense treaty with Taiwan promising to come to their aid......Carter did away with that.

The absence of an American treaty commitment to come to Taiwan’s defense if it were ever attacked. Such a treaty, the U.S.-ROC mutual defense treaty, existed from 1954 to 1979, but the Carter administration terminated it as a condition for establishing relations with the PRC.

 

[Dusty]

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

You seem not to realize how China is rapidly increasing its military capabilities.

China's growing firepower raises question: could U.S. defend Taiwan?

In war games, China often wins, and U.S. warships and aircraft are kept at bay.

www.nbcnews.com

Doesn‘t matter

Taiwan is an island and a Naval Invasion would be needed.
Taiwan has subs, mines, missiles,modern aircraft to repel an invasion

Even without the US Navy stepping in

Taiwan could not hold off china for 1 hour. You are deluded into thinking that china would not launch or drop nukes.

Really?
You underestimate what modern military equipment can do to Chinese invasion forces

China can’t bomb Taiwan into submission. Taiwan is prepared for it.

Landing forces by air and sea will face a barrage of defensive missiles and mines

Chinese ships will just be targets

China would not risk US retaliation if they bring in nukes

An evenly sprinkled application of tactical nukes will flatten Taiwan in less than six hours leaving little or nothing that can respond to anything at all.....think they won't do it? I think they would.

JO

You are right....if they think that is the only way to do it....they will do that or whatever it takes.....as of right now they are trying to convince America that they should not intervene....that it would be suicide to do so.

Their main goal as of now is to take control of Taiwan through relatively peaceful means.....I think they will be able to achieve that.

How is Taiwan going to stop an incoming nuke,

Easy
By the US assuring China that if they were to Nuke Taiwan, we will retaliate

Yes....you are correct....now who is going to push the red button dude? It sure as hell is not going to be some rainbow colored lizard lady....

JO

Another question....who controls the nuclear football? Even the democrats are not so stupid as to allow biden to do that

Thus........What it comes down to now is that we ----despite having a huge nuclear arsenal.... have no credibility....aka...China knows full well the biden regime would not authorize the use of Nuclear Weapons no matter what they do....but they also know that the Republicans might return...hence they will act quickly in regards to Taiwan...first they will negotiate....if not successful...they will act militarily.

Wrong again

Biden has made it clear he will support our military alliances.
Something Trump refused to do
Maybe we will…maybe we won’t.

Biden is a serial liar to begin with.....anyone that believes anything he says is further gone than biden.

To be a viable nuclear power....you not only have to have nuclear weapons but you must be prepared to use them and use them very quickly.

China knows full well biden is not capable of doing anything quickly.....they know biden hthe as huge problems making decisions....especially fast decisions.

Where have you been the last 70 years
The US has ALWAYs made it clear we will retaliate

Retaliate means you need following conditions:

1.) You need to be alive
2.) You need to have been fast enough to avoid being crippled in a decapitation strike
3.) When the " Give peace a chance " protestors show up to object self defense you use refurbished Gatling guns to explain it to them.

You live in a fantasy world
I don’t debate fantasies

Says the buffoon that works for pennies

How much is he paid per post?

Not enough, but for someone with no real life perhaps it matters

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

Can you put me in touch with your drug dealer as you get really good stuff?


A small island nation beats Red Communist China?

I guess you are covering for your beloved XI.

So, in your view…..the big guy easily beats the little guy

Reality is different. Invading an Island Fortress is not easy. Germany tried to defeat England with just bombing. Because they lacked the Naval landing capability….they failed

Taiwan has done nothing but prepare for a Chinese invasion for 70 years.
They have bunkers and Civil Defense to withstand bombing
They have a modern Air Force, surface to air missiles, anti ship missiles, smart mines, submarines and an Army ready to repel invaders.
They also have the US Navy at their disposal

Ready to explain how you think China will “win”??

The Red Chinese are not Germany cupcake.
This is not 1940.

Air and sea blockade.


Much larger forces.

They face the same challenges in attacking an Island Fortress that Germany faced. In 1940, Germany was the most powerful Army in the world. They had the best Air Force. All observers said England didn’t stand a chance.

Blockade will face anti-ship missiles and the US Navy

Having a million plus Army does you no good if you can’t land them

Your thinking is stuck in the past and even there you do not know your history.

If you even casually observe the pubic plan put forth by China regarding their alledged plan of action you will see how vulnurable Taiwan is....not even to mention their plan would entail much more than what they have presented.

Anyone with much knowledge of modern military methods and capabilities understands Taiwan cannot stand up to China....more importatly even Taiwan knows that.

So what it really comes down to is will the U.S. gurantee Taiwan and China that we will defend Taiwan?

As one Chinese General said....."would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to try and defend Taiwan"?

I don't think so.

Still haven’t seen their plan
It was not in the OP

Summarize it

Their alleged plan or the plan they are presenting for public consumption is in the first post.

Only a complete moron accepts that the enemy gives away their plan.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

The United States will not be involved in any war. We don't have a capable military. The only hope our formerly fearsome military has is to make the enemy die laughing.

We have the most powerful military in the history of mankind

Our military is being weakened by the biden regime in the name of social experimentation....it will continue to worsen as long as the democrats remain in power.

Meanwhile......back at the ranch: China is increasing their military power as rapidly as possible....as some top US military people have said.....China is preparing for War.

Sorry Green, but the military hasn`t resembled a John Wayne movie in several decades. Women, Blacks, Gays, etc. are all capable of doing what those white guys did.

Theoretically they might be capable but they have no record or history of it....blacks ran instead of fighting in the Korean war thus Truman eliminated the black units and dispersed the blacks into white units.

Thus the Military is making a big gamble by thinking such a pc military as they are creating will be combat effective.

The Problem with a ‘Woke’ Military | National Review

A push for progressive policies in the military bureaucracy threatens the unity and meritocracy that make our armed forces effective.

www.nationalreview.com

 

[TheGreenHornet]

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

You seem not to realize how China is rapidly increasing its military capabilities.

China's growing firepower raises question: could U.S. defend Taiwan?

In war games, China often wins, and U.S. warships and aircraft are kept at bay.

www.nbcnews.com

Doesn‘t matter

Taiwan is an island and a Naval Invasion would be needed.
Taiwan has subs, mines, missiles,modern aircraft to repel an invasion

Even without the US Navy stepping in

Taiwan could not hold off china for 1 hour. You are deluded into thinking that china would not launch or drop nukes.

Really?
You underestimate what modern military equipment can do to Chinese invasion forces

China can’t bomb Taiwan into submission. Taiwan is prepared for it.

Landing forces by air and sea will face a barrage of defensive missiles and mines

Chinese ships will just be targets

China would not risk US retaliation if they bring in nukes

An evenly sprinkled application of tactical nukes will flatten Taiwan in less than six hours leaving little or nothing that can respond to anything at all.....think they won't do it? I think they would.

JO

You are right....if they think that is the only way to do it....they will do that or whatever it takes.....as of right now they are trying to convince America that they should not intervene....that it would be suicide to do so.

Their main goal as of now is to take control of Taiwan through relatively peaceful means.....I think they will be able to achieve that.

How is Taiwan going to stop an incoming nuke,

Easy
By the US assuring China that if they were to Nuke Taiwan, we will retaliate

Yes....you are correct....now who is going to push the red button dude? It sure as hell is not going to be some rainbow colored lizard lady....

JO

Another question....who controls the nuclear football? Even the democrats are not so stupid as to allow biden to do that

Thus........What it comes down to now is that we ----despite having a huge nuclear arsenal.... have no credibility....aka...China knows full well the biden regime would not authorize the use of Nuclear Weapons no matter what they do....but they also know that the Republicans might return...hence they will act quickly in regards to Taiwan...first they will negotiate....if not successful...they will act militarily.

Wrong again

Biden has made it clear he will support our military alliances.
Something Trump refused to do
Maybe we will…maybe we won’t.

Biden is a serial liar to begin with.....anyone that believes anything he says is further gone than biden.

To be a viable nuclear power....you not only have to have nuclear weapons but you must be prepared to use them and use them very quickly.

China knows full well biden is not capable of doing anything quickly.....they know biden hthe as huge problems making decisions....especially fast decisions.

Where have you been the last 70 years
The US has ALWAYs made it clear we will retaliate

Retaliate means you need following conditions:

1.) You need to be alive
2.) You need to have been fast enough to avoid being crippled in a decapitation strike
3.) When the " Give peace a chance " protestors show up to object self defense you use refurbished Gatling guns to explain it to them.

You live in a fantasy world
I don’t debate fantasies

Says the buffoon that works for pennies

How much is he paid per post?

Not enough, but for someone with no real life perhaps it matters

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

Can you put me in touch with your drug dealer as you get really good stuff?


A small island nation beats Red Communist China?

I guess you are covering for your beloved XI.

So, in your view…..the big guy easily beats the little guy

Reality is different. Invading an Island Fortress is not easy. Germany tried to defeat England with just bombing. Because they lacked the Naval landing capability….they failed

Taiwan has done nothing but prepare for a Chinese invasion for 70 years.
They have bunkers and Civil Defense to withstand bombing
They have a modern Air Force, surface to air missiles, anti ship missiles, smart mines, submarines and an Army ready to repel invaders.
They also have the US Navy at their disposal

Ready to explain how you think China will “win”??

The Red Chinese are not Germany cupcake.
This is not 1940.

Air and sea blockade.


Much larger forces.

They face the same challenges in attacking an Island Fortress that Germany faced. In 1940, Germany was the most powerful Army in the world. They had the best Air Force. All observers said England didn’t stand a chance.

Blockade will face anti-ship missiles and the US Navy

Having a million plus Army does you no good if you can’t land them

Your thinking is stuck in the past and even there you do not know your history.

If you even casually observe the pubic plan put forth by China regarding their alledged plan of action you will see how vulnurable Taiwan is....not even to mention their plan would entail much more than what they have presented.

Anyone with much knowledge of modern military methods and capabilities understands Taiwan cannot stand up to China....more importatly even Taiwan knows that.

So what it really comes down to is will the U.S. gurantee Taiwan and China that we will defend Taiwan?

As one Chinese General said....."would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to try and defend Taiwan"?

I don't think so.

Still haven’t seen their plan
It was not in the OP

Summarize it

Their alleged plan or the plan they are presenting for public consumption is in the first post.

Only a complete moron accepts that the enemy gives away their plan.

Who said they believed that would be their actual plan....certainly not me....I made it clear that is was just the plan they were presenting for public consumption....but it does show some of their capabilities...and thus it reveals that Taiwan would not be able to defend themselves.

 

[justoffal]

As one Chinese General said....."would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to try and defend Taiwan"?

That is how mutually assured destruction works

Would China sacrifice Beijing just to take Taiwan

First of all for the madd doctrine to work both parties must beieve the other is willing to launch a nuclear attack.

Now if China launches a nuclear attack on America I think even biden would probably retaliate but he would not be fast enough to do it effectively.

Secondly we do not even have a defense treaty with Taiwan promising to come to their aid......Carter did away with that.

The absence of an American treaty commitment to come to Taiwan’s defense if it were ever attacked. Such a treaty, the U.S.-ROC mutual defense treaty, existed from 1954 to 1979, but the Carter administration terminated it as a condition for establishing relations with the PRC.

If China is pre-emptive it means they have studied very carefully how to KO in the first blow.... I would expect that we would be effectively unable to respond. Not sure they are sure enough about themselves to do it. Three or four of our submarines left over is all it would take to cook the entire nation of China into an uninhabitable wasteland in the next several weeks after such an attack. It would mean certain destruction for them if they did not get it all done immediately.

JO

 

[Dusty]

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

You seem not to realize how China is rapidly increasing its military capabilities.

China's growing firepower raises question: could U.S. defend Taiwan?

In war games, China often wins, and U.S. warships and aircraft are kept at bay.

www.nbcnews.com

Doesn‘t matter

Taiwan is an island and a Naval Invasion would be needed.
Taiwan has subs, mines, missiles,modern aircraft to repel an invasion

Even without the US Navy stepping in

Taiwan could not hold off china for 1 hour. You are deluded into thinking that china would not launch or drop nukes.

Really?
You underestimate what modern military equipment can do to Chinese invasion forces

China can’t bomb Taiwan into submission. Taiwan is prepared for it.

Landing forces by air and sea will face a barrage of defensive missiles and mines

Chinese ships will just be targets

China would not risk US retaliation if they bring in nukes

An evenly sprinkled application of tactical nukes will flatten Taiwan in less than six hours leaving little or nothing that can respond to anything at all.....think they won't do it? I think they would.

JO

You are right....if they think that is the only way to do it....they will do that or whatever it takes.....as of right now they are trying to convince America that they should not intervene....that it would be suicide to do so.

Their main goal as of now is to take control of Taiwan through relatively peaceful means.....I think they will be able to achieve that.

How is Taiwan going to stop an incoming nuke,

Easy
By the US assuring China that if they were to Nuke Taiwan, we will retaliate

Yes....you are correct....now who is going to push the red button dude? It sure as hell is not going to be some rainbow colored lizard lady....

JO

Another question....who controls the nuclear football? Even the democrats are not so stupid as to allow biden to do that

Thus........What it comes down to now is that we ----despite having a huge nuclear arsenal.... have no credibility....aka...China knows full well the biden regime would not authorize the use of Nuclear Weapons no matter what they do....but they also know that the Republicans might return...hence they will act quickly in regards to Taiwan...first they will negotiate....if not successful...they will act militarily.

Wrong again

Biden has made it clear he will support our military alliances.
Something Trump refused to do
Maybe we will…maybe we won’t.

Biden is a serial liar to begin with.....anyone that believes anything he says is further gone than biden.

To be a viable nuclear power....you not only have to have nuclear weapons but you must be prepared to use them and use them very quickly.

China knows full well biden is not capable of doing anything quickly.....they know biden hthe as huge problems making decisions....especially fast decisions.

Where have you been the last 70 years
The US has ALWAYs made it clear we will retaliate

Retaliate means you need following conditions:

1.) You need to be alive
2.) You need to have been fast enough to avoid being crippled in a decapitation strike
3.) When the " Give peace a chance " protestors show up to object self defense you use refurbished Gatling guns to explain it to them.

You live in a fantasy world
I don’t debate fantasies

Says the buffoon that works for pennies

How much is he paid per post?

Not enough, but for someone with no real life perhaps it matters

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

Can you put me in touch with your drug dealer as you get really good stuff?


A small island nation beats Red Communist China?

I guess you are covering for your beloved XI.

So, in your view…..the big guy easily beats the little guy

Reality is different. Invading an Island Fortress is not easy. Germany tried to defeat England with just bombing. Because they lacked the Naval landing capability….they failed

Taiwan has done nothing but prepare for a Chinese invasion for 70 years.
They have bunkers and Civil Defense to withstand bombing
They have a modern Air Force, surface to air missiles, anti ship missiles, smart mines, submarines and an Army ready to repel invaders.
They also have the US Navy at their disposal

Ready to explain how you think China will “win”??

The Red Chinese are not Germany cupcake.
This is not 1940.

Air and sea blockade.


Much larger forces.

They face the same challenges in attacking an Island Fortress that Germany faced. In 1940, Germany was the most powerful Army in the world. They had the best Air Force. All observers said England didn’t stand a chance.

Blockade will face anti-ship missiles and the US Navy

Having a million plus Army does you no good if you can’t land them

Your thinking is stuck in the past and even there you do not know your history.

If you even casually observe the pubic plan put forth by China regarding their alledged plan of action you will see how vulnurable Taiwan is....not even to mention their plan would entail much more than what they have presented.

Anyone with much knowledge of modern military methods and capabilities understands Taiwan cannot stand up to China....more importatly even Taiwan knows that.

So what it really comes down to is will the U.S. gurantee Taiwan and China that we will defend Taiwan?

As one Chinese General said....."would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to try and defend Taiwan"?

I don't think so.

Still haven’t seen their plan
It was not in the OP

Summarize it

Their alleged plan or the plan they are presenting for public consumption is in the first post.

Only a complete moron accepts that the enemy gives away their plan.

Who said they believed that would be their actual plan....certainly not me....I made it clear that is was just the plan they were presenting for public consumption....but it does show some of their capabilities...and thus it reveals that Taiwan would not be able to defend themselves.

Wrong because even the public, any public would not buy this. Again a thread on ostrich anal lube would make more sense than this nonsense

 

[justoffal]

The United States will not be involved in any war. We don't have a capable military. The only hope our formerly fearsome military has is to make the enemy die laughing.

We have the most powerful military in the history of mankind

Our military is being weakened by the biden regime in the name of social experimentation....it will continue to worsen as long as the democrats remain in power.

Meanwhile......back at the ranch: China is increasing their military power as rapidly as possible....as some top US military people have said.....China is preparing for War.

Sorry Green, but the military hasn`t resembled a John Wayne movie in several decades. Women, Blacks, Gays, etc. are all capable of doing what those white guys did.

Theoretically they might be capable but they have no record or history of it....blacks ran instead of fighting in the Korean war thus Truman eliminated the black units and dispersed the blacks into white units.

Thus the Military is making a big gamble by thinking such a pc military as they are creating will be combat effective.

At this point in time foot troops would be more involved in the aftermath and clean up of the loser.... I don't think we would see any large field battles...especially in places that were too radioactive to survive in....just being there is a death sentence never mind enemy soldiers. Imagine the release of bio weapons that make covid look like a mosquito bite.

 

[justoffal]

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

You seem not to realize how China is rapidly increasing its military capabilities.

China's growing firepower raises question: could U.S. defend Taiwan?

In war games, China often wins, and U.S. warships and aircraft are kept at bay.

www.nbcnews.com

Doesn‘t matter

Taiwan is an island and a Naval Invasion would be needed.
Taiwan has subs, mines, missiles,modern aircraft to repel an invasion

Even without the US Navy stepping in

Taiwan could not hold off china for 1 hour. You are deluded into thinking that china would not launch or drop nukes.

Really?
You underestimate what modern military equipment can do to Chinese invasion forces

China can’t bomb Taiwan into submission. Taiwan is prepared for it.

Landing forces by air and sea will face a barrage of defensive missiles and mines

Chinese ships will just be targets

China would not risk US retaliation if they bring in nukes

An evenly sprinkled application of tactical nukes will flatten Taiwan in less than six hours leaving little or nothing that can respond to anything at all.....think they won't do it? I think they would.

JO

You are right....if they think that is the only way to do it....they will do that or whatever it takes.....as of right now they are trying to convince America that they should not intervene....that it would be suicide to do so.

Their main goal as of now is to take control of Taiwan through relatively peaceful means.....I think they will be able to achieve that.

How is Taiwan going to stop an incoming nuke,

Easy
By the US assuring China that if they were to Nuke Taiwan, we will retaliate

Yes....you are correct....now who is going to push the red button dude? It sure as hell is not going to be some rainbow colored lizard lady....

JO

Another question....who controls the nuclear football? Even the democrats are not so stupid as to allow biden to do that

Thus........What it comes down to now is that we ----despite having a huge nuclear arsenal.... have no credibility....aka...China knows full well the biden regime would not authorize the use of Nuclear Weapons no matter what they do....but they also know that the Republicans might return...hence they will act quickly in regards to Taiwan...first they will negotiate....if not successful...they will act militarily.

Wrong again

Biden has made it clear he will support our military alliances.
Something Trump refused to do
Maybe we will…maybe we won’t.

Biden is a serial liar to begin with.....anyone that believes anything he says is further gone than biden.

To be a viable nuclear power....you not only have to have nuclear weapons but you must be prepared to use them and use them very quickly.

China knows full well biden is not capable of doing anything quickly.....they know biden hthe as huge problems making decisions....especially fast decisions.

Where have you been the last 70 years
The US has ALWAYs made it clear we will retaliate

Retaliate means you need following conditions:

1.) You need to be alive
2.) You need to have been fast enough to avoid being crippled in a decapitation strike
3.) When the " Give peace a chance " protestors show up to object self defense you use refurbished Gatling guns to explain it to them.

You live in a fantasy world
I don’t debate fantasies

Says the buffoon that works for pennies

How much is he paid per post?

Not enough, but for someone with no real life perhaps it matters

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

Can you put me in touch with your drug dealer as you get really good stuff?


A small island nation beats Red Communist China?

I guess you are covering for your beloved XI.

So, in your view…..the big guy easily beats the little guy

Reality is different. Invading an Island Fortress is not easy. Germany tried to defeat England with just bombing. Because they lacked the Naval landing capability….they failed

Taiwan has done nothing but prepare for a Chinese invasion for 70 years.
They have bunkers and Civil Defense to withstand bombing
They have a modern Air Force, surface to air missiles, anti ship missiles, smart mines, submarines and an Army ready to repel invaders.
They also have the US Navy at their disposal

Ready to explain how you think China will “win”??

The Red Chinese are not Germany cupcake.
This is not 1940.

Air and sea blockade.


Much larger forces.

They face the same challenges in attacking an Island Fortress that Germany faced. In 1940, Germany was the most powerful Army in the world. They had the best Air Force. All observers said England didn’t stand a chance.

Blockade will face anti-ship missiles and the US Navy

Having a million plus Army does you no good if you can’t land them

Your thinking is stuck in the past and even there you do not know your history.

If you even casually observe the pubic plan put forth by China regarding their alledged plan of action you will see how vulnurable Taiwan is....not even to mention their plan would entail much more than what they have presented.

Anyone with much knowledge of modern military methods and capabilities understands Taiwan cannot stand up to China....more importatly even Taiwan knows that.

So what it really comes down to is will the U.S. gurantee Taiwan and China that we will defend Taiwan?

As one Chinese General said....."would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to try and defend Taiwan"?

I don't think so.

Still haven’t seen their plan
It was not in the OP

Summarize it

Their alleged plan or the plan they are presenting for public consumption is in the first post.

Only a complete moron accepts that the enemy gives away their plan.

Who said they believed that would be their actual plan....certainly not me....I made it clear that is was just the plan they were presenting for public consumption....but it does show some of their capabilities...and thus it reveals that Taiwan would not be able to defend themselves.

LOL....exxxxactly.....in fact you can be sure just for that reason that it is NOT the plan they would follow.

JO

 

[TheGreenHornet]

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

You seem not to realize how China is rapidly increasing its military capabilities.

China's growing firepower raises question: could U.S. defend Taiwan?

In war games, China often wins, and U.S. warships and aircraft are kept at bay.

www.nbcnews.com

Doesn‘t matter

Taiwan is an island and a Naval Invasion would be needed.
Taiwan has subs, mines, missiles,modern aircraft to repel an invasion

Even without the US Navy stepping in

Taiwan could not hold off china for 1 hour. You are deluded into thinking that china would not launch or drop nukes.

Really?
You underestimate what modern military equipment can do to Chinese invasion forces

China can’t bomb Taiwan into submission. Taiwan is prepared for it.

Landing forces by air and sea will face a barrage of defensive missiles and mines

Chinese ships will just be targets

China would not risk US retaliation if they bring in nukes

An evenly sprinkled application of tactical nukes will flatten Taiwan in less than six hours leaving little or nothing that can respond to anything at all.....think they won't do it? I think they would.

JO

You are right....if they think that is the only way to do it....they will do that or whatever it takes.....as of right now they are trying to convince America that they should not intervene....that it would be suicide to do so.

Their main goal as of now is to take control of Taiwan through relatively peaceful means.....I think they will be able to achieve that.

How is Taiwan going to stop an incoming nuke,

Easy
By the US assuring China that if they were to Nuke Taiwan, we will retaliate

Yes....you are correct....now who is going to push the red button dude? It sure as hell is not going to be some rainbow colored lizard lady....

JO

Another question....who controls the nuclear football? Even the democrats are not so stupid as to allow biden to do that

Thus........What it comes down to now is that we ----despite having a huge nuclear arsenal.... have no credibility....aka...China knows full well the biden regime would not authorize the use of Nuclear Weapons no matter what they do....but they also know that the Republicans might return...hence they will act quickly in regards to Taiwan...first they will negotiate....if not successful...they will act militarily.

Wrong again

Biden has made it clear he will support our military alliances.
Something Trump refused to do
Maybe we will…maybe we won’t.

Biden is a serial liar to begin with.....anyone that believes anything he says is further gone than biden.

To be a viable nuclear power....you not only have to have nuclear weapons but you must be prepared to use them and use them very quickly.

China knows full well biden is not capable of doing anything quickly.....they know biden hthe as huge problems making decisions....especially fast decisions.

Where have you been the last 70 years
The US has ALWAYs made it clear we will retaliate

Retaliate means you need following conditions:

1.) You need to be alive
2.) You need to have been fast enough to avoid being crippled in a decapitation strike
3.) When the " Give peace a chance " protestors show up to object self defense you use refurbished Gatling guns to explain it to them.

You live in a fantasy world
I don’t debate fantasies

Says the buffoon that works for pennies

How much is he paid per post?

Not enough, but for someone with no real life perhaps it matters

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

Can you put me in touch with your drug dealer as you get really good stuff?


A small island nation beats Red Communist China?

I guess you are covering for your beloved XI.

So, in your view…..the big guy easily beats the little guy

Reality is different. Invading an Island Fortress is not easy. Germany tried to defeat England with just bombing. Because they lacked the Naval landing capability….they failed

Taiwan has done nothing but prepare for a Chinese invasion for 70 years.
They have bunkers and Civil Defense to withstand bombing
They have a modern Air Force, surface to air missiles, anti ship missiles, smart mines, submarines and an Army ready to repel invaders.
They also have the US Navy at their disposal

Ready to explain how you think China will “win”??

The Red Chinese are not Germany cupcake.
This is not 1940.

Air and sea blockade.


Much larger forces.

They face the same challenges in attacking an Island Fortress that Germany faced. In 1940, Germany was the most powerful Army in the world. They had the best Air Force. All observers said England didn’t stand a chance.

Blockade will face anti-ship missiles and the US Navy

Having a million plus Army does you no good if you can’t land them

Your thinking is stuck in the past and even there you do not know your history.

If you even casually observe the pubic plan put forth by China regarding their alledged plan of action you will see how vulnurable Taiwan is....not even to mention their plan would entail much more than what they have presented.

Anyone with much knowledge of modern military methods and capabilities understands Taiwan cannot stand up to China....more importatly even Taiwan knows that.

So what it really comes down to is will the U.S. gurantee Taiwan and China that we will defend Taiwan?

As one Chinese General said....."would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to try and defend Taiwan"?

I don't think so.

Still haven’t seen their plan
It was not in the OP

Summarize it

Their alleged plan or the plan they are presenting for public consumption is in the first post.

Only a complete moron accepts that the enemy gives away their plan.

Who said they believed that would be their actual plan....certainly not me....I made it clear that is was just the plan they were presenting for public consumption....but it does show some of their capabilities...and thus it reveals that Taiwan would not be able to defend themselves.

Wrong because even the public, any public would not buy this. Again a thread on ostrich anal lube would make more sense than this nonsense

There is nothing in the plan they are not capable of......but again I am not saying that is or will be their plan....they are simply presenting a plan to show what Taiwan could be up against....I think it would be much more than what they have presented.

Regarding what the public thinks....no one knows ... but this aggressive attitude being demonstrated by China will certainly have some effect on Taiwan's leadership.

Especially as Taiwan is beginning to realize just how weak the biden regime is.

 

[Dusty]

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

You seem not to realize how China is rapidly increasing its military capabilities.

China's growing firepower raises question: could U.S. defend Taiwan?

In war games, China often wins, and U.S. warships and aircraft are kept at bay.

www.nbcnews.com

Doesn‘t matter

Taiwan is an island and a Naval Invasion would be needed.
Taiwan has subs, mines, missiles,modern aircraft to repel an invasion

Even without the US Navy stepping in

Taiwan could not hold off china for 1 hour. You are deluded into thinking that china would not launch or drop nukes.

Really?
You underestimate what modern military equipment can do to Chinese invasion forces

China can’t bomb Taiwan into submission. Taiwan is prepared for it.

Landing forces by air and sea will face a barrage of defensive missiles and mines

Chinese ships will just be targets

China would not risk US retaliation if they bring in nukes

An evenly sprinkled application of tactical nukes will flatten Taiwan in less than six hours leaving little or nothing that can respond to anything at all.....think they won't do it? I think they would.

JO

You are right....if they think that is the only way to do it....they will do that or whatever it takes.....as of right now they are trying to convince America that they should not intervene....that it would be suicide to do so.

Their main goal as of now is to take control of Taiwan through relatively peaceful means.....I think they will be able to achieve that.

How is Taiwan going to stop an incoming nuke,

Easy
By the US assuring China that if they were to Nuke Taiwan, we will retaliate

Yes....you are correct....now who is going to push the red button dude? It sure as hell is not going to be some rainbow colored lizard lady....

JO

Another question....who controls the nuclear football? Even the democrats are not so stupid as to allow biden to do that

Thus........What it comes down to now is that we ----despite having a huge nuclear arsenal.... have no credibility....aka...China knows full well the biden regime would not authorize the use of Nuclear Weapons no matter what they do....but they also know that the Republicans might return...hence they will act quickly in regards to Taiwan...first they will negotiate....if not successful...they will act militarily.

Wrong again

Biden has made it clear he will support our military alliances.
Something Trump refused to do
Maybe we will…maybe we won’t.

Biden is a serial liar to begin with.....anyone that believes anything he says is further gone than biden.

To be a viable nuclear power....you not only have to have nuclear weapons but you must be prepared to use them and use them very quickly.

China knows full well biden is not capable of doing anything quickly.....they know biden hthe as huge problems making decisions....especially fast decisions.

Where have you been the last 70 years
The US has ALWAYs made it clear we will retaliate

Retaliate means you need following conditions:

1.) You need to be alive
2.) You need to have been fast enough to avoid being crippled in a decapitation strike
3.) When the " Give peace a chance " protestors show up to object self defense you use refurbished Gatling guns to explain it to them.

You live in a fantasy world
I don’t debate fantasies

Says the buffoon that works for pennies

How much is he paid per post?

Not enough, but for someone with no real life perhaps it matters

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

Can you put me in touch with your drug dealer as you get really good stuff?


A small island nation beats Red Communist China?

I guess you are covering for your beloved XI.

So, in your view…..the big guy easily beats the little guy

Reality is different. Invading an Island Fortress is not easy. Germany tried to defeat England with just bombing. Because they lacked the Naval landing capability….they failed

Taiwan has done nothing but prepare for a Chinese invasion for 70 years.
They have bunkers and Civil Defense to withstand bombing
They have a modern Air Force, surface to air missiles, anti ship missiles, smart mines, submarines and an Army ready to repel invaders.
They also have the US Navy at their disposal

Ready to explain how you think China will “win”??

The Red Chinese are not Germany cupcake.
This is not 1940.

Air and sea blockade.


Much larger forces.

They face the same challenges in attacking an Island Fortress that Germany faced. In 1940, Germany was the most powerful Army in the world. They had the best Air Force. All observers said England didn’t stand a chance.

Blockade will face anti-ship missiles and the US Navy

Having a million plus Army does you no good if you can’t land them

Your thinking is stuck in the past and even there you do not know your history.

If you even casually observe the pubic plan put forth by China regarding their alledged plan of action you will see how vulnurable Taiwan is....not even to mention their plan would entail much more than what they have presented.

Anyone with much knowledge of modern military methods and capabilities understands Taiwan cannot stand up to China....more importatly even Taiwan knows that.

So what it really comes down to is will the U.S. gurantee Taiwan and China that we will defend Taiwan?

As one Chinese General said....."would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to try and defend Taiwan"?

I don't think so.

Still haven’t seen their plan
It was not in the OP

Summarize it

Their alleged plan or the plan they are presenting for public consumption is in the first post.

Only a complete moron accepts that the enemy gives away their plan.

Who said they believed that would be their actual plan....certainly not me....I made it clear that is was just the plan they were presenting for public consumption....but it does show some of their capabilities...and thus it reveals that Taiwan would not be able to defend themselves.

Wrong because even the public, any public would not buy this. Again a thread on ostrich anal lube would make more sense than this nonsense

There is nothing in the plan they are not capable of......but again I am not saying that is or will be their plan....they are simply presenting a plan to show what Taiwan could be up against....I think it would be much more than what they have presented.

Regarding what the public thinks....no one knows ... but this aggressive attitude being demonstrated by China will certainly have some effect on Taiwan's leadership.

Especially as Taiwan is beginning to realize just how weak the biden regime is.

Your brain is made of scrambled garbanzo beans, it has to be if you believe what you read because you read it.

 

[justoffal]

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

You seem not to realize how China is rapidly increasing its military capabilities.

China's growing firepower raises question: could U.S. defend Taiwan?

In war games, China often wins, and U.S. warships and aircraft are kept at bay.

www.nbcnews.com

Doesn‘t matter

Taiwan is an island and a Naval Invasion would be needed.
Taiwan has subs, mines, missiles,modern aircraft to repel an invasion

Even without the US Navy stepping in

Taiwan could not hold off china for 1 hour. You are deluded into thinking that china would not launch or drop nukes.

Really?
You underestimate what modern military equipment can do to Chinese invasion forces

China can’t bomb Taiwan into submission. Taiwan is prepared for it.

Landing forces by air and sea will face a barrage of defensive missiles and mines

Chinese ships will just be targets

China would not risk US retaliation if they bring in nukes

An evenly sprinkled application of tactical nukes will flatten Taiwan in less than six hours leaving little or nothing that can respond to anything at all.....think they won't do it? I think they would.

JO

You are right....if they think that is the only way to do it....they will do that or whatever it takes.....as of right now they are trying to convince America that they should not intervene....that it would be suicide to do so.

Their main goal as of now is to take control of Taiwan through relatively peaceful means.....I think they will be able to achieve that.

How is Taiwan going to stop an incoming nuke,

Easy
By the US assuring China that if they were to Nuke Taiwan, we will retaliate

Yes....you are correct....now who is going to push the red button dude? It sure as hell is not going to be some rainbow colored lizard lady....

JO

Another question....who controls the nuclear football? Even the democrats are not so stupid as to allow biden to do that

Thus........What it comes down to now is that we ----despite having a huge nuclear arsenal.... have no credibility....aka...China knows full well the biden regime would not authorize the use of Nuclear Weapons no matter what they do....but they also know that the Republicans might return...hence they will act quickly in regards to Taiwan...first they will negotiate....if not successful...they will act militarily.

Wrong again

Biden has made it clear he will support our military alliances.
Something Trump refused to do
Maybe we will…maybe we won’t.

Biden is a serial liar to begin with.....anyone that believes anything he says is further gone than biden.

To be a viable nuclear power....you not only have to have nuclear weapons but you must be prepared to use them and use them very quickly.

China knows full well biden is not capable of doing anything quickly.....they know biden hthe as huge problems making decisions....especially fast decisions.

Where have you been the last 70 years
The US has ALWAYs made it clear we will retaliate

Retaliate means you need following conditions:

1.) You need to be alive
2.) You need to have been fast enough to avoid being crippled in a decapitation strike
3.) When the " Give peace a chance " protestors show up to object self defense you use refurbished Gatling guns to explain it to them.

You live in a fantasy world
I don’t debate fantasies

Says the buffoon that works for pennies

How much is he paid per post?

Not enough, but for someone with no real life perhaps it matters

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

Can you put me in touch with your drug dealer as you get really good stuff?


A small island nation beats Red Communist China?

I guess you are covering for your beloved XI.

So, in your view…..the big guy easily beats the little guy

Reality is different. Invading an Island Fortress is not easy. Germany tried to defeat England with just bombing. Because they lacked the Naval landing capability….they failed

Taiwan has done nothing but prepare for a Chinese invasion for 70 years.
They have bunkers and Civil Defense to withstand bombing
They have a modern Air Force, surface to air missiles, anti ship missiles, smart mines, submarines and an Army ready to repel invaders.
They also have the US Navy at their disposal

Ready to explain how you think China will “win”??

The Red Chinese are not Germany cupcake.
This is not 1940.

Air and sea blockade.


Much larger forces.

They face the same challenges in attacking an Island Fortress that Germany faced. In 1940, Germany was the most powerful Army in the world. They had the best Air Force. All observers said England didn’t stand a chance.

Blockade will face anti-ship missiles and the US Navy

Having a million plus Army does you no good if you can’t land them

Your thinking is stuck in the past and even there you do not know your history.

If you even casually observe the pubic plan put forth by China regarding their alledged plan of action you will see how vulnurable Taiwan is....not even to mention their plan would entail much more than what they have presented.

Anyone with much knowledge of modern military methods and capabilities understands Taiwan cannot stand up to China....more importatly even Taiwan knows that.

So what it really comes down to is will the U.S. gurantee Taiwan and China that we will defend Taiwan?

As one Chinese General said....."would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to try and defend Taiwan"?

I don't think so.

Still haven’t seen their plan
It was not in the OP

Summarize it

Their alleged plan or the plan they are presenting for public consumption is in the first post.

Only a complete moron accepts that the enemy gives away their plan.

Who said they believed that would be their actual plan....certainly not me....I made it clear that is was just the plan they were presenting for public consumption....but it does show some of their capabilities...and thus it reveals that Taiwan would not be able to defend themselves.

Wrong because even the public, any public would not buy this. Again a thread on ostrich anal lube would make more sense than this nonsense

There is nothing in the plan they are not capable of......but again I am not saying that is or will be their plan....they are simply presenting a plan to show what Taiwan could be up against....I think it would be much more than what they have presented.

Regarding what the public thinks....no one knows ... but this aggressive attitude being demonstrated by China will certainly have some effect on Taiwan's leadership.

Especially as Taiwan is beginning to realize just how weak the biden regime is.

Yeah at this point the words are as good as missiles just for that one reason alone.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

You seem not to realize how China is rapidly increasing its military capabilities.

China's growing firepower raises question: could U.S. defend Taiwan?

In war games, China often wins, and U.S. warships and aircraft are kept at bay.

www.nbcnews.com

Doesn‘t matter

Taiwan is an island and a Naval Invasion would be needed.
Taiwan has subs, mines, missiles,modern aircraft to repel an invasion

Even without the US Navy stepping in

Taiwan could not hold off china for 1 hour. You are deluded into thinking that china would not launch or drop nukes.

Really?
You underestimate what modern military equipment can do to Chinese invasion forces

China can’t bomb Taiwan into submission. Taiwan is prepared for it.

Landing forces by air and sea will face a barrage of defensive missiles and mines

Chinese ships will just be targets

China would not risk US retaliation if they bring in nukes

An evenly sprinkled application of tactical nukes will flatten Taiwan in less than six hours leaving little or nothing that can respond to anything at all.....think they won't do it? I think they would.

JO

You are right....if they think that is the only way to do it....they will do that or whatever it takes.....as of right now they are trying to convince America that they should not intervene....that it would be suicide to do so.

Their main goal as of now is to take control of Taiwan through relatively peaceful means.....I think they will be able to achieve that.

How is Taiwan going to stop an incoming nuke,

Easy
By the US assuring China that if they were to Nuke Taiwan, we will retaliate

Yes....you are correct....now who is going to push the red button dude? It sure as hell is not going to be some rainbow colored lizard lady....

JO

Another question....who controls the nuclear football? Even the democrats are not so stupid as to allow biden to do that

Thus........What it comes down to now is that we ----despite having a huge nuclear arsenal.... have no credibility....aka...China knows full well the biden regime would not authorize the use of Nuclear Weapons no matter what they do....but they also know that the Republicans might return...hence they will act quickly in regards to Taiwan...first they will negotiate....if not successful...they will act militarily.

Wrong again

Biden has made it clear he will support our military alliances.
Something Trump refused to do
Maybe we will…maybe we won’t.

Biden is a serial liar to begin with.....anyone that believes anything he says is further gone than biden.

To be a viable nuclear power....you not only have to have nuclear weapons but you must be prepared to use them and use them very quickly.

China knows full well biden is not capable of doing anything quickly.....they know biden hthe as huge problems making decisions....especially fast decisions.

Where have you been the last 70 years
The US has ALWAYs made it clear we will retaliate

Retaliate means you need following conditions:

1.) You need to be alive
2.) You need to have been fast enough to avoid being crippled in a decapitation strike
3.) When the " Give peace a chance " protestors show up to object self defense you use refurbished Gatling guns to explain it to them.

You live in a fantasy world
I don’t debate fantasies

Says the buffoon that works for pennies

How much is he paid per post?

Not enough, but for someone with no real life perhaps it matters

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

Can you put me in touch with your drug dealer as you get really good stuff?


A small island nation beats Red Communist China?

I guess you are covering for your beloved XI.

So, in your view…..the big guy easily beats the little guy

Reality is different. Invading an Island Fortress is not easy. Germany tried to defeat England with just bombing. Because they lacked the Naval landing capability….they failed

Taiwan has done nothing but prepare for a Chinese invasion for 70 years.
They have bunkers and Civil Defense to withstand bombing
They have a modern Air Force, surface to air missiles, anti ship missiles, smart mines, submarines and an Army ready to repel invaders.
They also have the US Navy at their disposal

Ready to explain how you think China will “win”??

The Red Chinese are not Germany cupcake.
This is not 1940.

Air and sea blockade.


Much larger forces.

They face the same challenges in attacking an Island Fortress that Germany faced. In 1940, Germany was the most powerful Army in the world. They had the best Air Force. All observers said England didn’t stand a chance.

Blockade will face anti-ship missiles and the US Navy

Having a million plus Army does you no good if you can’t land them

Your thinking is stuck in the past and even there you do not know your history.

If you even casually observe the pubic plan put forth by China regarding their alledged plan of action you will see how vulnurable Taiwan is....not even to mention their plan would entail much more than what they have presented.

Anyone with much knowledge of modern military methods and capabilities understands Taiwan cannot stand up to China....more importatly even Taiwan knows that.

So what it really comes down to is will the U.S. gurantee Taiwan and China that we will defend Taiwan?

As one Chinese General said....."would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to try and defend Taiwan"?

I don't think so.

Still haven’t seen their plan
It was not in the OP

Summarize it

Their alleged plan or the plan they are presenting for public consumption is in the first post.

Only a complete moron accepts that the enemy gives away their plan.

Who said they believed that would be their actual plan....certainly not me....I made it clear that is was just the plan they were presenting for public consumption....but it does show some of their capabilities...and thus it reveals that Taiwan would not be able to defend themselves.

Wrong because even the public, any public would not buy this. Again a thread on ostrich anal lube would make more sense than this nonsense

There is nothing in the plan they are not capable of......but again I am not saying that is or will be their plan....they are simply presenting a plan to show what Taiwan could be up against....I think it would be much more than what they have presented.

Regarding what the public thinks....no one knows ... but this aggressive attitude being demonstrated by China will certainly have some effect on Taiwan's leadership.

Especially as Taiwan is beginning to realize just how weak the biden regime is.

Your brain is made of scrambled garbanzo beans, it has to be if you believe what you read because you read it.

Is english your first language? What makes you think I believed that was their actual plan to invade Taiwan?

 

[TheGreenHornet]

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

You seem not to realize how China is rapidly increasing its military capabilities.

China's growing firepower raises question: could U.S. defend Taiwan?

In war games, China often wins, and U.S. warships and aircraft are kept at bay.

www.nbcnews.com

Doesn‘t matter

Taiwan is an island and a Naval Invasion would be needed.
Taiwan has subs, mines, missiles,modern aircraft to repel an invasion

Even without the US Navy stepping in

Taiwan could not hold off china for 1 hour. You are deluded into thinking that china would not launch or drop nukes.

Really?
You underestimate what modern military equipment can do to Chinese invasion forces

China can’t bomb Taiwan into submission. Taiwan is prepared for it.

Landing forces by air and sea will face a barrage of defensive missiles and mines

Chinese ships will just be targets

China would not risk US retaliation if they bring in nukes

An evenly sprinkled application of tactical nukes will flatten Taiwan in less than six hours leaving little or nothing that can respond to anything at all.....think they won't do it? I think they would.

JO

You are right....if they think that is the only way to do it....they will do that or whatever it takes.....as of right now they are trying to convince America that they should not intervene....that it would be suicide to do so.

Their main goal as of now is to take control of Taiwan through relatively peaceful means.....I think they will be able to achieve that.

How is Taiwan going to stop an incoming nuke,

Easy
By the US assuring China that if they were to Nuke Taiwan, we will retaliate

Yes....you are correct....now who is going to push the red button dude? It sure as hell is not going to be some rainbow colored lizard lady....

JO

Another question....who controls the nuclear football? Even the democrats are not so stupid as to allow biden to do that

Thus........What it comes down to now is that we ----despite having a huge nuclear arsenal.... have no credibility....aka...China knows full well the biden regime would not authorize the use of Nuclear Weapons no matter what they do....but they also know that the Republicans might return...hence they will act quickly in regards to Taiwan...first they will negotiate....if not successful...they will act militarily.

Wrong again

Biden has made it clear he will support our military alliances.
Something Trump refused to do
Maybe we will…maybe we won’t.

Biden is a serial liar to begin with.....anyone that believes anything he says is further gone than biden.

To be a viable nuclear power....you not only have to have nuclear weapons but you must be prepared to use them and use them very quickly.

China knows full well biden is not capable of doing anything quickly.....they know biden hthe as huge problems making decisions....especially fast decisions.

Where have you been the last 70 years
The US has ALWAYs made it clear we will retaliate

Retaliate means you need following conditions:

1.) You need to be alive
2.) You need to have been fast enough to avoid being crippled in a decapitation strike
3.) When the " Give peace a chance " protestors show up to object self defense you use refurbished Gatling guns to explain it to them.

You live in a fantasy world
I don’t debate fantasies

Says the buffoon that works for pennies

How much is he paid per post?

Not enough, but for someone with no real life perhaps it matters

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

Can you put me in touch with your drug dealer as you get really good stuff?


A small island nation beats Red Communist China?

I guess you are covering for your beloved XI.

So, in your view…..the big guy easily beats the little guy

Reality is different. Invading an Island Fortress is not easy. Germany tried to defeat England with just bombing. Because they lacked the Naval landing capability….they failed

Taiwan has done nothing but prepare for a Chinese invasion for 70 years.
They have bunkers and Civil Defense to withstand bombing
They have a modern Air Force, surface to air missiles, anti ship missiles, smart mines, submarines and an Army ready to repel invaders.
They also have the US Navy at their disposal

Ready to explain how you think China will “win”??

The Red Chinese are not Germany cupcake.
This is not 1940.

Air and sea blockade.


Much larger forces.

They face the same challenges in attacking an Island Fortress that Germany faced. In 1940, Germany was the most powerful Army in the world. They had the best Air Force. All observers said England didn’t stand a chance.

Blockade will face anti-ship missiles and the US Navy

Having a million plus Army does you no good if you can’t land them

Your thinking is stuck in the past and even there you do not know your history.

If you even casually observe the pubic plan put forth by China regarding their alledged plan of action you will see how vulnurable Taiwan is....not even to mention their plan would entail much more than what they have presented.

Anyone with much knowledge of modern military methods and capabilities understands Taiwan cannot stand up to China....more importatly even Taiwan knows that.

So what it really comes down to is will the U.S. gurantee Taiwan and China that we will defend Taiwan?

As one Chinese General said....."would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to try and defend Taiwan"?

I don't think so.

Still haven’t seen their plan
It was not in the OP

Why are you commenting on a plan you have not seen?

Summarize it

Their alleged plan or the plan they are presenting for public consumption is in the first post.

Only a complete moron accepts that the enemy gives away their plan.

Who said they believed that would be their actual plan....certainly not me....I made it clear that is was just the plan they were presenting for public consumption....but it does show some of their capabilities...and thus it reveals that Taiwan would not be able to defend themselves.

Wrong because even the public, any public would not buy this. Again a thread on ostrich anal lube would make more sense than this nonsense

There is nothing in the plan they are not capable of......but again I am not saying that is or will be their plan....they are simply presenting a plan to show what Taiwan could be up against....I think it would be much more than what they have presented.

Regarding what the public thinks....no one knows ... but this aggressive attitude being demonstrated by China will certainly have some effect on Taiwan's leadership.

Especially as Taiwan is beginning to realize just how weak the biden regime is.

Yeah at this point the words are as good as missiles just for that one reason alone.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

You seem not to realize how China is rapidly increasing its military capabilities.

China's growing firepower raises question: could U.S. defend Taiwan?

In war games, China often wins, and U.S. warships and aircraft are kept at bay.

www.nbcnews.com

Doesn‘t matter

Taiwan is an island and a Naval Invasion would be needed.
Taiwan has subs, mines, missiles,modern aircraft to repel an invasion

Even without the US Navy stepping in

Taiwan could not hold off china for 1 hour. You are deluded into thinking that china would not launch or drop nukes.

Really?
You underestimate what modern military equipment can do to Chinese invasion forces

China can’t bomb Taiwan into submission. Taiwan is prepared for it.

Landing forces by air and sea will face a barrage of defensive missiles and mines

Chinese ships will just be targets

China would not risk US retaliation if they bring in nukes

An evenly sprinkled application of tactical nukes will flatten Taiwan in less than six hours leaving little or nothing that can respond to anything at all.....think they won't do it? I think they would.

JO

You are right....if they think that is the only way to do it....they will do that or whatever it takes.....as of right now they are trying to convince America that they should not intervene....that it would be suicide to do so.

Their main goal as of now is to take control of Taiwan through relatively peaceful means.....I think they will be able to achieve that.

How is Taiwan going to stop an incoming nuke,

Easy
By the US assuring China that if they were to Nuke Taiwan, we will retaliate

Yes....you are correct....now who is going to push the red button dude? It sure as hell is not going to be some rainbow colored lizard lady....

JO

Another question....who controls the nuclear football? Even the democrats are not so stupid as to allow biden to do that

Thus........What it comes down to now is that we ----despite having a huge nuclear arsenal.... have no credibility....aka...China knows full well the biden regime would not authorize the use of Nuclear Weapons no matter what they do....but they also know that the Republicans might return...hence they will act quickly in regards to Taiwan...first they will negotiate....if not successful...they will act militarily.

Wrong again

Biden has made it clear he will support our military alliances.
Something Trump refused to do
Maybe we will…maybe we won’t.

Biden is a serial liar to begin with.....anyone that believes anything he says is further gone than biden.

To be a viable nuclear power....you not only have to have nuclear weapons but you must be prepared to use them and use them very quickly.

China knows full well biden is not capable of doing anything quickly.....they know biden hthe as huge problems making decisions....especially fast decisions.

Where have you been the last 70 years
The US has ALWAYs made it clear we will retaliate

Retaliate means you need following conditions:

1.) You need to be alive
2.) You need to have been fast enough to avoid being crippled in a decapitation strike
3.) When the " Give peace a chance " protestors show up to object self defense you use refurbished Gatling guns to explain it to them.

You live in a fantasy world
I don’t debate fantasies

Says the buffoon that works for pennies

How much is he paid per post?

Not enough, but for someone with no real life perhaps it matters

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

Can you put me in touch with your drug dealer as you get really good stuff?


A small island nation beats Red Communist China?

I guess you are covering for your beloved XI.

So, in your view…..the big guy easily beats the little guy

Reality is different. Invading an Island Fortress is not easy. Germany tried to defeat England with just bombing. Because they lacked the Naval landing capability….they failed

Taiwan has done nothing but prepare for a Chinese invasion for 70 years.
They have bunkers and Civil Defense to withstand bombing
They have a modern Air Force, surface to air missiles, anti ship missiles, smart mines, submarines and an Army ready to repel invaders.
They also have the US Navy at their disposal

Ready to explain how you think China will “win”??

The Red Chinese are not Germany cupcake.
This is not 1940.

Air and sea blockade.


Much larger forces.

They face the same challenges in attacking an Island Fortress that Germany faced. In 1940, Germany was the most powerful Army in the world. They had the best Air Force. All observers said England didn’t stand a chance.

Blockade will face anti-ship missiles and the US Navy

Having a million plus Army does you no good if you can’t land them

Your thinking is stuck in the past and even there you do not know your history.

If you even casually observe the pubic plan put forth by China regarding their alledged plan of action you will see how vulnurable Taiwan is....not even to mention their plan would entail much more than what they have presented.

Anyone with much knowledge of modern military methods and capabilities understands Taiwan cannot stand up to China....more importatly even Taiwan knows that.

So what it really comes down to is will the U.S. gurantee Taiwan and China that we will defend Taiwan?

As one Chinese General said....."would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to try and defend Taiwan"?

I don't think so.

Still haven’t seen their plan
It was not in the OP

Why are you commenting on a plan you have not seen?

Summarize it

Their alleged plan or the plan they are presenting for public consumption is in the first post.

Only a complete moron accepts that the enemy gives away their plan.

Who said they believed that would be their actual plan....certainly not me....I made it clear that is was just the plan they were presenting for public consumption....but it does show some of their capabilities...and thus it reveals that Taiwan would not be able to defend themselves.

Wrong because even the public, any public would not buy this. Again a thread on ostrich anal lube would make more sense than this nonsense

There is nothing in the plan they are not capable of......but again I am not saying that is or will be their plan....they are simply presenting a plan to show what Taiwan could be up against....I think it would be much more than what they have presented.

Regarding what the public thinks....no one knows ... but this aggressive attitude being demonstrated by China will certainly have some effect on Taiwan's leadership.

Especially as Taiwan is beginning to realize just how weak the biden regime is.

Yeah at this point the words are as good as missiles just for that one reason alone.

Most of these deluded and simple minded liberals we see on here are actually more qualified to be president than sloe joe.......just one indicator of the trouble we are in.

 

[airplanemechanic]

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

You seem not to realize how China is rapidly increasing its military capabilities.

China's growing firepower raises question: could U.S. defend Taiwan?

In war games, China often wins, and U.S. warships and aircraft are kept at bay.

www.nbcnews.com

Doesn‘t matter

Taiwan is an island and a Naval Invasion would be needed.
Taiwan has subs, mines, missiles,modern aircraft to repel an invasion

Even without the US Navy stepping in

Taiwan could not hold off china for 1 hour. You are deluded into thinking that china would not launch or drop nukes.

Really?
You underestimate what modern military equipment can do to Chinese invasion forces

China can’t bomb Taiwan into submission. Taiwan is prepared for it.

Landing forces by air and sea will face a barrage of defensive missiles and mines

Chinese ships will just be targets

How is Taiwan going to stop an incoming nuke, shit the Chinks can put the nuke into a boat and sail it right up to Taiwan then set it off followed by 1000 more missiles both conventional and nuclear. Idiots apply western thinking to chinks, they do not think rationally as china is a concentration camp for everyone.

Come back when you grow uppy

Exactly....China plays chess whilst the west is still playing checkers. Biden cannot even play checkers.

The West has massively stronger military and economic might than China

For the one who owns your debt owns you.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

You seem not to realize how China is rapidly increasing its military capabilities.

China's growing firepower raises question: could U.S. defend Taiwan?

In war games, China often wins, and U.S. warships and aircraft are kept at bay.

www.nbcnews.com

Doesn‘t matter

Taiwan is an island and a Naval Invasion would be needed.
Taiwan has subs, mines, missiles,modern aircraft to repel an invasion

Even without the US Navy stepping in

Taiwan could not hold off china for 1 hour. You are deluded into thinking that china would not launch or drop nukes.

Really?
You underestimate what modern military equipment can do to Chinese invasion forces

China can’t bomb Taiwan into submission. Taiwan is prepared for it.

Landing forces by air and sea will face a barrage of defensive missiles and mines

Chinese ships will just be targets

China would not risk US retaliation if they bring in nukes

An evenly sprinkled application of tactical nukes will flatten Taiwan in less than six hours leaving little or nothing that can respond to anything at all.....think they won't do it? I think they would.

JO

You are right....if they think that is the only way to do it....they will do that or whatever it takes.....as of right now they are trying to convince America that they should not intervene....that it would be suicide to do so.

Their main goal as of now is to take control of Taiwan through relatively peaceful means.....I think they will be able to achieve that.

How is Taiwan going to stop an incoming nuke,

Easy
By the US assuring China that if they were to Nuke Taiwan, we will retaliate

Yes....you are correct....now who is going to push the red button dude? It sure as hell is not going to be some rainbow colored lizard lady....

JO

Another question....who controls the nuclear football? Even the democrats are not so stupid as to allow biden to do that

Thus........What it comes down to now is that we ----despite having a huge nuclear arsenal.... have no credibility....aka...China knows full well the biden regime would not authorize the use of Nuclear Weapons no matter what they do....but they also know that the Republicans might return...hence they will act quickly in regards to Taiwan...first they will negotiate....if not successful...they will act militarily.

Wrong again

Biden has made it clear he will support our military alliances.
Something Trump refused to do
Maybe we will…maybe we won’t.

Biden is a serial liar to begin with.....anyone that believes anything he says is further gone than biden.

To be a viable nuclear power....you not only have to have nuclear weapons but you must be prepared to use them and use them very quickly.

China knows full well biden is not capable of doing anything quickly.....they know biden hthe as huge problems making decisions....especially fast decisions.

Where have you been the last 70 years
The US has ALWAYs made it clear we will retaliate

Retaliate means you need following conditions:

1.) You need to be alive
2.) You need to have been fast enough to avoid being crippled in a decapitation strike
3.) When the " Give peace a chance " protestors show up to object self defense you use refurbished Gatling guns to explain it to them.

You live in a fantasy world
I don’t debate fantasies

Says the buffoon that works for pennies

How much is he paid per post?

Not enough, but for someone with no real life perhaps it matters

If they invade Taiwan…
Taiwan will kick their ass

Doesn‘t make sense militarily, politically or economically

Can you put me in touch with your drug dealer as you get really good stuff?


A small island nation beats Red Communist China?

I guess you are covering for your beloved XI.

So, in your view…..the big guy easily beats the little guy

Reality is different. Invading an Island Fortress is not easy. Germany tried to defeat England with just bombing. Because they lacked the Naval landing capability….they failed

Taiwan has done nothing but prepare for a Chinese invasion for 70 years.
They have bunkers and Civil Defense to withstand bombing
They have a modern Air Force, surface to air missiles, anti ship missiles, smart mines, submarines and an Army ready to repel invaders.
They also have the US Navy at their disposal

Ready to explain how you think China will “win”??

The Red Chinese are not Germany cupcake.
This is not 1940.

Air and sea blockade.


Much larger forces.

They face the same challenges in attacking an Island Fortress that Germany faced. In 1940, Germany was the most powerful Army in the world. They had the best Air Force. All observers said England didn’t stand a chance.

Blockade will face anti-ship missiles and the US Navy

Having a million plus Army does you no good if you can’t land them

Your thinking is stuck in the past and even there you do not know your history.

If you even casually observe the pubic plan put forth by China regarding their alledged plan of action you will see how vulnurable Taiwan is....not even to mention their plan would entail much more than what they have presented.

Anyone with much knowledge of modern military methods and capabilities understands Taiwan cannot stand up to China....more importatly even Taiwan knows that.

So what it really comes down to is will the U.S. gurantee Taiwan and China that we will defend Taiwan?

As one Chinese General said....."would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to try and defend Taiwan"?

I don't think so.

Still haven’t seen their plan
It was not in the OP

Summarize it

Their alleged plan or the plan they are presenting for public consumption is in the first post.

Only a complete moron accepts that the enemy gives away their plan.

Who said they believed that would be their actual plan....certainly not me....I made it clear that is was just the plan they were presenting for public consumption....but it does show some of their capabilities...and thus it reveals that Taiwan would not be able to defend themselves.

Wrong because even the public, any public would not buy this. Again a thread on ostrich anal lube would make more sense than this nonsense

You are commenting on a plan you have not even seen.....I just realized i forgot to put the link in. hehheh

Anyhow here it is...https://www.the-sun.com/news/3203525/ww3-fears-chinese-state-media-three-stage-battle-plan/

 

[rightwinger]

As one Chinese General said....."would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to try and defend Taiwan"?

That is how mutually assured destruction works

Would China sacrifice Beijing just to take Taiwan

First of all for the madd doctrine to work both parties must beieve the other is willing to launch a nuclear attack.

Now if China launches a nuclear attack on America I think even biden would probably retaliate but he would not be fast enough to do it effectively.

Secondly we do not even have a defense treaty with Taiwan promising to come to their aid......Carter did away with that.

The absence of an American treaty commitment to come to Taiwan’s defense if it were ever attacked. Such a treaty, the U.S.-ROC mutual defense treaty, existed from 1954 to 1979, but the Carter administration terminated it as a condition for establishing relations with the PRC.

We also made it clear to China that we would defend Taiwan if they attacked

Worked

 

[TheGreenHornet]

As one Chinese General said....."would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to try and defend Taiwan"?

That is how mutually assured destruction works

Would China sacrifice Beijing just to take Taiwan

First of all for the madd doctrine to work both parties must beieve the other is willing to launch a nuclear attack.

Now if China launches a nuclear attack on America I think even biden would probably retaliate but he would not be fast enough to do it effectively.

Secondly we do not even have a defense treaty with Taiwan promising to come to their aid......Carter did away with that.

The absence of an American treaty commitment to come to Taiwan’s defense if it were ever attacked. Such a treaty, the U.S.-ROC mutual defense treaty, existed from 1954 to 1979, but the Carter administration terminated it as a condition for establishing relations with the PRC.

We also made it clear to China that we would defend Taiwan if they attacked

Worked

What has worked in the past may not work in the future.......especially when no one more than China realizes how weak biden is.

Weak presidents invite aggression.